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I mean... depend on a lot of shit...

Wealth and work most of them if we are to be serious.

A rich American woman who never had to work on her life or uses her beauty to work like an actress can keep her looks in her 30s, maybe even in 40s.

A poor Brazilian woman who had to work since she was 13 in the tropical sun, eating shitty food and living around rats will have their decline by 15-17...

That is why we often average it out and say that women looks usually fall around 24.

That is the age most middle of the road women between extreme poverty and hardship and extreme wealth and privilege tend to go down with current technology.

If I am able to guess, you are in the cusp between UMC and UC... or down right UC, thus why it takes longer... but for us who seen the armies of women whose peak were around 21 in our guettos... well... we tell a different story.

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I think part of the issue is that male sexual attraction is simpler and more straightforward. Everyone basically gets it, though there are some details people lose sight of.

But men have a hard time not projecting their own sexuality onto women, and interpret everything said though a male lens that isn't appropriate.

It can be true that most women do not find most men sexually attractive in an immediate way. But it is also possible that in the right context, over time, a woman can find a man that she loves sufficiently desirable to want sex and enjoy it. But another man who basically looked just like him would still not be sexually attractive to her if she just saw him on the street one day.

And yes, there are SOME men that provoke a more immediate, active and male-like lust in women. But they are rare. And men have to understand that this is just how women are. Most men won't provoke that kind of lust in women, even in their partners. But that is OK. There is so much more to relationships than that, and as long as you are creating enough desire that sex is good, then that is enough.

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Edit: Sorry for the rant man, I got carried away a bit.

Yeah that's the big problem. If(I dont believe this is possible for most people, initial attraction is necessary imo or it will not happen) women can become attracted to a man (hopefully as much as or more than they are attracted immediately to the top tier men) over time then most guys have to spend a whole lot of time with every dating option to see if they become attracted to him, and there is a large chance that they'll just seem him as a friend because women don't find most their male friends attractive according to some data. So not only do most men have very few options, they have to spend a long time(compared to top tier men or most women) courting each of those options, and all this for a small chance of one of those options finding him attractive. While at the same time he'll be seeing some men and most women finding success immediately and constantly. Then there is also the chance that she doesn't actually find him attractive but is just with him for the benefits he provides while maybe being actually attracted some other guy, maybe one of those top tier guys that she happened to get with sometime before him. Or she finds him attractive but not as attractive as the one of those top tier men she may have been with before him and so won't care for him as much.

Yeah I accept that this is how it all works due to biology, evolution or whatever. But I don't and wont really find it ok. Cause it's way too unfair. But I accept that yeah the world is unfair and what people find attractive and unattractive can't really be negotiated or changed, it's pretty fixed and hard wired.

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While I’m not a man and therefore can’t ever really understand what it feels like to hear that messaging, I can absolutely sympathize and know it must be really, really difficult and damaging.

That’s why I continue to return to PPD: I believe men should hear and need to hear that they are worthy of love, affection, and attraction, even if they do not fit the “Chad” stereotype. They deserve that.

However, when the feedback women get for sharing our experiences or feelings for our non-stereotypically-Chad partners is:

*”That’s not possible”

“You’re lying”

“Women always lie”

“You can’t love him for him; women only love men for what they can provide”

“You can’t really know how you feel”

“He must be hotter than you’re saying because women only care about looks”*

Or anything along these lines — then why should women try to combat the narrative at all?

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where we need to pair most adults up happily as can be

That's just the rub. We don't need to pair most adults. There will be a small ( and ever decreasing by the year ) portion of the population that will marry/live happily(as in never divorce) ever after. More women will live the single life (from dating serially to openly fucking everything she wants with no plan for a future LTR ). The group of women that will live this "single" life is growing exponentially. Some from this group will claim to be "single" but will be leading a life in which she is doing her own thing 99% but will be having a casual sexual relationship with a long term fWB ( and this man will be concurrently having fWbs with other various women ).

There are so many variables at play that will further segment society's sexual lives in this way. The morbid in me thinks this will be an exciting experiment! What will society at large do as it tries to tackle the financial dislocations that the many that live like I described creates.

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Thank you for the rec, I've never heard of that book! On the surface, yep sounds about right.

Consider this. Like when the TV was put into every American home, the "not rich" finally caught a "glimpse" of how the rich lived like. There was finally a tangible center in which one's imagination can run outward from. Prior to TV they existed, of course, but 99% couldn't conceptualize how different life could be for them and how it was for others.

Now instead of TV, advertisements, and popular entertainment sorta poked fun/gave a glimpse to the unaware masses what could be lurking under the surface. Movies like "Eyes Wide Shut" and "American Psycho" spring to my mind.

Social media platforms started slowly showing us all how alternate lives can look like. Lives being lived TODAy. With this rise of some nouveau riche and newly minted finance bros/shitcoin millionaires,.Middle East royals paying for depraved shit on the not so downlow, The sexually unsuccessful saw what life of the sexually/romantically successful looks like. It's not in the ether, made up. It's been seen.

Like opening a door and walking through, one can't go back to ignorance after having stepped through the doorway. Like the apple from the wisdom tree. Once you know, you cannot unknow.

[–]WilliamWyattD1 point 2 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Book is only in German, so the summary is all you get. I think her anthropology on prehistoric mating is probably very flawed, like many people's. But her overall hypothesis is certainly possible.

And yes, the envy effect is huge. A reason why levels of economic inequality that are not historically huge now drive everyone insane.

The same can be true of sexual inequality, but this is a secondary problem. Maybe it can make guys who have their grandfather's romantic life unhappy, but it would be a win if we can get them their grandpa's romantic life in the first place!

A more pertinent question is to what extent digital exposure to increasingly perfect bodies impacts the ability of either gender to actually be attracted to stuff less than that. In 'Sexual Utopia in Power' F. Roger Devlin speculated that this sort of stuff had a big impact on women when the movies first came out. Both genders are impacted, but the literature suggests that female sexuality is more impacted by socialization than male due to hypergamy and just female nature. Men's more straightforward and robust sexuality is harder to impact, and their lower attraction floor mitigates some of the impact that does happen.

It's a society where men are fatter than ever on average, but the TOP men are hotter than ever, including unrealistically hot via manipulation or insane dehydration regimens before filming. One wonder at the extent to which this diminishes women's ability to find average guys truly lust inducing.

[–]Ohmaygahh1 point 2 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The same can be true of sexual inequality, but this is a secondary problem.

I agree. The primary problem, since we all decided to shape modern civilization, is what to do with the excess sexual/romantically unsuccessful men. Here are the two "problems"

Women's sexual selectivity is significantly higher man's. The behavior translates to, women will fuck the men they fancy, and who they often fancy are the very few men at the wealthy top. Barring that, most women would be somewhat content with a "peer". Barring that, they would prefer to be alone, unbothered by a large horde of undesirables.
The male elites knowing this, invested heavily in ... divinity, birthright, wealthright, superstitions and traditions, fame through art and war, etc and implemented the grandest of societal institutions; monogamous marriage. If the slave worked hard enough, toiled long enough, was cunning, or at least more cunning than the next fellow, he may be promised A single wife. To love and to cherish ( and low key serve ) so that he may have a son to pass down his worthless legacy.

And so economically we call this the "invisible hand". The innovative drive is to gain and amass more wealth and power. To what end? For better pick of the food and fucks and shelter.

This is an interesting time. With the advent of more power to the individual woman, we are seeing in real time what kind of sexual mates hetereosexual women choose throughout their life cycle, when they are more or less financially self sufficient. The pill was a GAMECHANGER, but what society really needs is a second game changer to really drive home the fact that women... do not need, nor care for 95+% of men. And the great majority of men, from the top down, have to figure out a way to deal with that.

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The emergence of monogamy is a much debated issue in terms of how and why. But the effects of it, however it came into being, can be seen more clearly.

As we have discussed, I am more undecided on how selective women will turn out to be. But female leaders really need to understand that the iron law of civilization is that you have to be materially competitive with others or you get wiped out. So if women are going to be as selective as you assume, we will need to forge a new mating and child raising architecture that works under such conditions. And you will need to find a way to control sexually excluded men while keeping them productive enough to compete with civilizations that do something different.

If women are so selective that they exclude 90% of men from sexual and reproductive access, barring some crazy sci fi shit, I doubt there is any way to compete with patriarchal competition that pairs up men and women more widely.

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Maybe... maybe not. I cant say I can read his mind... nor can you.

But unlike you, I’ve discussed these topics with him.

But this is the norm, thats why there are so many saying that sex without love is preferable to sex with love. "Bad sex is still good sex", "sex with love is candy, sex without love is rice" and the like exist to express this.

I am sure this is a product of a language barrier, but your claim that “sex with love is candy, sex without love is rice" does not support your conclusion that sex without love is preferable to sex with love; most people would choose candy.

However I will say that I don’t even think that simile is accurate. Sex with love can be both sustaining — like rice, and exciting — like candy.

I actually was more talking about financial, bodily, social and sexual risks.... but emotional risks are a part of it too.

To many, these risks are also outweighed by the benefits of a relationship.

If you both agree on that... okay thats nice... but there is a reason why most men disagree with this for their personal experiences and would rather avoid relationship for as much as they possibly can... (and will engage in it for sex, as they will avoid sexlessness way more than they ever will avoid commitment).

All the men in my social circle are in relationships. That’s fairly normal — when you’re in a relationship, you begin to socialize more with couples and less with single people.

Many of them would be considered “HVM” by the people here. All would have romantic options were they single.

And yet they all choose to remain in committed relationships.

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Sorry but I find it dubious that you know your friends or the men you know... Most women dont have the faintest idea of what their husbands thiks in decades together... let alone some rando they meet. You have to remember the default for women is meakeup, the default behavior for men is lie. Non autistic men wont risk our sexual success for telling the truth.

Again, It is required a lot of self confidence to remain in the casual marketplace long term... not all are up to it... even if almost all of them would prefer it tho... I like to compare it to owning a business. There is no doubt that it is better than being employed. It just requires a lot of work and confidence. Thus why there are way kore employees than employers.

And well... let me guess... they are in their late 20s... and they are middle upper class... lol... you are talking about your version of me 2 years ago.

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Lol... where do you find these so called "non entitled, non vapid, non bitches"?

We all use churches, parks, work, college and more to get women too, men hit on anything that moves in all places they possibly can at all times of their day... bars and OLD are just one of the many hunting grounds of men.

And well... we dont see much of a difference in womans behavior...

Sure... women we find in work or churches are not as entitled, vapid or bitchy as the nightclub young women, they are a extreme in women... but still pretty damn entitled vapid and bitchy from our perspective. It is a 10/10 compared to a 9/10. We may not even be able to tell you the difference.

What really differs is what women and men see as good and bad behavior is very different. What my sister calls a well behaving woman, and a extremely entitled bitch... looks more or less the same from my perspective. Her "extremely religious and extremely rigid" friend... could be called a perfect copy to her "freespirited and self determined" friend In both appearance and behavior. They may say they are completely different but at the end, both of them and my sister are basically carbon copies of one another (Minus the tatoos and clothing difference) because they have been friends since they were babies.

Men are not detail oriented, when we say we cant see a given detail, we mean it, we actually not seeying it... example: if a woman interrupts us with something meaningful we dont automatically consider them a bitch. Likewise... someone who smiles 10% wider to our jokes is not automatically an angel... we may not even notice these to tell you the truth.

You know what makes us consider a woman non entitled? Someone who when they receive a gift, they thank it properly and give back when the moment arrises.

You know what makes us consider a woman non vapid? When she doesnt leave us because something happened and you need a casked around your arm.

Etc...

Doing extremely minor and unconsequential things and just talking but never doing anything will not convince any man that you are non vapid, entitled and bitchy.

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Mitigates would be a better word. Even then it doesn't mitigate much.

I'm very tall (6'4") but have struggled with my weight my entire life. I was a really fat kid (100 lbs in the 1st grade -- 230 lbs in the 7th grade). In high school I slimmed down enough to actually make the varsity basketball team in 12th grade. In college I got into even better shape and briefly had a 48" chest and a 32" waist. When I was in that shape getting laid was super easy. Over the years I got fat again and lost weight again several times. I've weighed as much as 340 lbs (I'm a relatively normal 240 lbs now). I was that solidly built type you speak of. I was offered bouncer jobs without even applying. I was mistaken for NFL players. Didn't matter that much. I got more action than most fat guys when I was over 300 lbs but not nearly as much as I got at 220 lbs.

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I never said that casual sex is falling in love...but it can be.

I dont know others but I many times do love my FwBs and FBs... they are good people who provide me happiness through sex... why wouldnt I fall in love with them? I mean... usually it goes ONS>FB>FwB>GF>Wife for a reason.

Love is a emotion, a strong emotion, sure.... but men are used to ignoring emotions. Particularly those regarding our lust. If men had such weak self control, all men would end up on jail. That is why we can so easily and quickly ignore love (and lust). And why we sometimes are called the cold/emotionless gender. We do feel emotions, a lot actually, and very destructive ones... but we can ignore them because we have been controling them forever.

Thus why we are not stuck into rationally negative relationships and why love is not a prison sentence.

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I am not mistaking anything, love and lust are just related feelings. You need lust to start loving somebody. And well... if you love somebody you obviously dont wanna share them, that is why most people who engage in casual sex relationships end up in relationships with these people. (even if they are not likely to readily admit it). Otherwise, you can just fuck for fun...

We men have a very different perception.

It is not that we are bad at controlling our emotions, but that 2 of our emotions, our lust and wrath are many times higher than that of women.

These are effects of testosterone, and why a FtM Trans is more likely to rape or kill a woman than an heterosexual male in proportion to their population, FtM never got the experience of slowly getting used to the extra anger and lust of testosterone quite like biological men did... and why most countries where it is legal to transition, it is illegal to give FtM trans adult male levels of testosterone from the beginning like in Denmark. As these people are considered "not capable of self regulation by substance abuse" if they did.

Also, there is no such a thing as controlling only one emotion, you either control all or none. That is why we many times sound cynical, unemotional or even robotic to women when in non stressful situations and extremely irritable when in stressful situations. We are controlling our motions 24/7. The jokes about wanting to kill our bosses are not only jokes... But we are mostly successful enough to be rather similar to women.

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My man she's pregnant. If my partner was pregnant I wouldn't want her to do much in the house, especially not when she's 7 months into it.

Cooking gets better with practice, everyone is shit at it at the start, just like with any other skill. Being told it's bad and how and which way it's bad is part of the learning curve, just like any other skill.

When I was learning to cook not a single person that I cooked for liked what I made for them, my mom even told me to stop learning cause she thought it just wasn't for me lol . But they also told me what they didn't like, and I slowly improved now many of them like some of the food I make very much and most is more than edible unlike before lol. You don't get good at it just like that, it takes time, effort and criticisms to get better just like with any other skill. Also I was just making simple everyday stuff that I have seen my mother make for me countless times and it took me some time to get it completely right. I haven't even tried anything complex, they'll take even longer to get right.

Besides she's 7 months pregnant, hormones might be going crazy. I wouldn't take what she said to heart too much.

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Question for the people who ~~don't agree with~~ are opposed to claim made by the redpill and/or the blackpill ~~or whatever pill stuff~~:

Do you think most men agree with most of the stuff that is said here? Or do you think the guys here are in the minority? (Edit)Do you think most men are in happy relationships?

If they are in the minority, why do you all stay and argue with guys here if you don't like them and their ideas? If you believe most men are in happy relationship and only a lot of men here are having trouble with dating, why stay here? (Edit)Cause I see some people that are pretty opposed to the stuff said in this sub, frustrated by the men of the sub in some of the comments sections. Why not just leave you are probably making yourself and them more miserable (Edit) by arguing with people you think are wrong and/or delusional?

Edit: changed the question a bit

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I don’t understand

I used to have the same problem. Couldn’t relate. My volunteering experience, and partner’s expertise however, have given me solid insight. Primarily people that seek that pity, or sympathetic support are often in The Victim Mindset. Real or perceived, that victimhood can, and often does dominate one’s world view. One’s persona. So pity, and sympathy go from being a luxury, to an expectation.

It’s a difficult mindset to shift. Especially because it’s often the most down trodden, that have suffered very real trauma. As they’re the most vulnerable.

Conversely too it’s why rhetoric about gender pay gaps and glass ceilings, should be kept in perspective. If you can afford the internet, a roof, food and gas, you should be waking everyday grateful.

Godspeed and good luck!

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Any of the things you actually need to know

Yes. It does. I didn’t appreciate this fact too, until after I became a parent. Schooling teaches one valuable lesson to children; that there are classes in society. So you better learn not only how to fit in, but how to operate.

Personally speaking, for my kids to learn that lesson alone, it costs me a handsome annual fee. It’s also why I drag my kids along to volunteer with me. They must know that despite the comforts they enjoy, they have a broader obligation. To contribute. Which is also a message that their Christian education reinforces.

Finally the other oft ignored benefit to formal education is the networks. My best friends of 20+ years and I, would not have been as successful. If we didn’t know each other. More importantly, trust each other. That value is incalculable.

Godspeed and good luck!

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Because he is already taking care of the children...

Namely men care for their woman, their child and practically anyone around them which is not an adult human male... We are the providers for yall you know? Every fail you commit in your job, every situation we must deescalate, every time we had to give you attention and care... all of yours and the babies necessities, we are doing it all already.

So no shit things didn't change for us, we just ask you to care for your smaller variant for 3 years while they grow... come on dont be entitled... or if you really must... You can go on and leave the baby if you want, We will just need the breast milk... We will do your job for you too you entitled useless baby. Just go and leave someone who CAN be something useful behind.

Good lord... women like to cry more than newborns.

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The relationship one is personal and the job is impersonal. Lying to people close to you is generally considered bad especially if doesn't benefit and only benefits you. Lying to people you dont know very well and about something that doesn't harm them personally is not considered all that bad.

You're missing the point. Most people wouldn't consider failing to mention a history of drug use to be "lying" at all.

a woman not telling the man she is dating that she used to do a lot of drugs when he has expressed to her that he doesn't want to be involved with people who do or did drugs for whatever reason.

I mean that would be comparable to a situation where she explicitly brings up the topic of commitment and "what are we". I was talking about a situation where it's not brought up and she just feels entitled to commitment without mentioning it.

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I mean that would be comparable to a situation where she explicitly brings up the topic of commitment and "what are we". I was talking about a situation where it's not brought up and she just feels entitled to commitment without mentioning it.

That would be comparable to her expressing that she doesn't want to be involved with people who don't commit.

Edit: but if you want it to be more comparable to your first example, then change my example from "the guy expressing it to the girl" to "girl finding out from his friend that he doesn't really want to be involved with people that do or did drugs"

You're missing the point. Most people wouldn't consider failing to mention a history of drug use to be "lying" at all.

Imo you are focusing on the wrong point.

Edit: You can even lie by commission to people you don't know and about things that don't harm them and people wouldn't consider it bad, like for example lying to the job interviewer. The maim point is that it's about who you are lying to, how close you are to them, why you are lying and how it affects them

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Searched the meaning of lying by omission and lying by commission, this is what I got:

Lying by commission — the active use of false statements — and lying by omission — the passive act of misleading by failing to disclose relevant information.

Lying by omission, also known as a continuing misrepresentation or quote mining, occurs when an important fact is left out in order to foster a misconception.

The first one is from some random website, the last one is from Wikipedia

So lying by omission is not about telling lies, it's about not clearing misconceptions.

I think still at that point it wouldn't be lying, wanting something doesn't mean it's a hard standard or that you won't make exceptions, and if it is you can use your words and say so.

Then you and I think differently. If I knew my partner wanted or didnt want something in their partner, and I had or didn't have that thing I would want to make sure that they know it so there is no dount about a misconception happening.

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Well that's weird they are using two very different definitions. Well in that case we have no clear definition of lying by omission. But I'll stand by the first definition because omission means neglecting or failing to do something. So lying by omission in my opinion would mean lying by failing to tell something, but again just my opinion you don't have to agree with this definition.

Do you think women with a highly promiscuous past or who used to do sex work have an obligation to disclose that to every man they start dating? It would be a red flag or at least a yellow flag for many men.

That depends on her conception of what that man or men in general. If she thinks past promiscuity or sex work is important to most men or atleast that man, and she fails to tell him about her past, then she's lying. Just like how in your example if the guy has the conception thay most women want commitment or that particular woman wants commitment and he fails to tell her he doesn't want to commit, then that's a lie in my book same as the promiscuous men is.

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I don't think so, the part you quoted, when it talks about "leaving out" facts, it's implied that some(but not all) relevant facts were disclosed.

Simply not saying anything is not "leaving out" facts, in order to "leave out" things you have to say something

My guy it literally says leaving an out an important fact to foster a misconception lmao. I am not having this long of a talk on this. If you still don't agree then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

By that logic you would constantly be "lying by omission" every time you talk to someone because there are some things you know that you don't bring up with them.

Yep, it's just only considered bad when it's done by and to someone to you and/or the neglect harms the other person in significant enough way, otherwise it's alright. Like I said that's the main point, it about who you are lying to? How close you are? Why you are lying? And how it affects the person that is lied to? Cause like I said you can tell a straight up lie to those job interviewers and many people would consider it bad because it's impersonal and doesn't harm anyone all that much.

Again not talking about this stuff for so long, if you don't understand my view of it then we'll have to agree to disagree.

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Everyone hits the wall eventualy...

But good looks may make a man start a relationship with you... but it is the bond created during the relationship that makes him remain long term.

If through years of relationship you just used and abused your partner... just giving him just barely enough for him to not jump ship... he will eventually jump ship when you lose your youth. He tolerated the beating because you were pretty. But young wont be forever.

But if you build a good relationship and both were actually facturally happy together he is more likely to remain.

Sure it is not a perfect correlation. There are cases where the woman make the guy happy and he jumps or when the girl provide nothing of value an dhe remains... but those are the odities. I am talking about trends.

I mean if you trat anyone or any animal well they are more likely to offer company willingly in case of optons than if you mistreat them

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I used to bake & decorate wedding cakes as a side hustle for $$ in college. I made homemade birthday cakes for all of my family members based upon their preferences. It became a funny thing to see who could come up with something unusual & delicious. My daughter challenged me one year: pistachio cake with rose scented Swiss buttercream. It was a hit.

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(Q4All)If a guy asks a girl to be his GF and she says no, is it kinda over at that point? Like there’s no coming back from that right? In regards to Whatever arrangement they had going on?

I don’t really see how you move forward at that point. He’s saying to quote Hootie and the blowfish “I only wanna be with you” and shes saying you’re not the only penis I wanna bounce on right now.

Or the The 3 real GF’s I’ve had in my life, the first one I never asked formally, it was kinda implied. The 2nd we were dating for 3 months and went to an event with people she knew. They asked her who is this, and she said “my boyfriend duh”. I was thinking to myself well I guess we are together now.

My current GF after like a month of dating I knew and I asked her straight up and she was like of course. So I’ve only asked one time in my life and was given a yes. But I don’t know what’s it’s like to get a no

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If a guy asks a girl to be his GF and she says no, is it kinda over at that point?

Yep. If a woman isn't initially attracted to you, she probably won't ever be, unless you have some sort of glow up. But by that point I hope you would forget about that girl.

I opened up to 2 girls in my life within 2 months and then I never opened up to a girl ever. The first girl whom I opened up to, I left a note in her pencilcase and invited her somewhere where I could open up. She told me she'll think about it, but I was kind of alien to how women worked back then so I didn't really understand that was a no. Then got rejected tomorrow.

The second girl whom I opened up to over text got a boyfriend the very same day I was rejected.

Now, apologies for making you listen to a 16 year old's life experiences.

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I’m gonna use PSL ratings here.

Before the surgery I’d say I was 4.5

After I would give a 5-5.25. I was mentally prepared to get no more than a .25 boost, it was a subtle procedure (like I mentioned, my dad couldn’t tell), so expectations were exceeded.

It’s been a bit over 2 years and something kinda crazy happened, the skin that got operated on is getting more elastic/supple, which has given me smile lines and some aegyo sal (google it) around the operated area. Normally the risk with surgery is that the operated area looks stiff versus rest of the face. I can’t explain why but it’s blending in even better. So I’d give a 5.5 now.

I’m 6’2” and in decent shape, so when I clean up to go out to a party or wedding (haircut, beard trim) I can probably push 6. My weak link is weight, my face gets rly bloated when I’m heavier. I think at a low body fat I could push it to 6.5, which would be insane.

Way I think about it, take the average looks to women in your OLD inbox, add 1, that’s probably your rating. And I can fairly consistently match with 5s or 6s in their mid 30s. So 6 is probably about right. But going from consistent 5s to consistent 6s is a huge leap, esp for a guy who was 4.5 once and has had 12 month dry spells

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Good luck man, I just recommend doing a lot of research, both online and in consults. There’s no rush, better to do it right. My surgeon did a great job but I knew exactly what I wanted, I showed him which of his patient examples I liked and didn’t like, I even made a PowerPoint slide with photos of me and photos of a public figure who had the features I was going for. Even then I could have shopped around for custom, because the surgery does involve some implants to support the new structure of the eye.

I think a holistic approach is best, no single surgery will be a silver bullet, it’s better to make small subtle changes, focusing on normalizing weaknesses, than go for broke with a massive jaw implant that is uncanny.

One last thing, guys on this sub or on blackpill forums act like it’s super depressing getting more/better attention after you looksmax. I didn’t feel that way at all. When I made a joke to the dream girl, she genuinely laughed. We genuinely cuddled. The sex was real and felt amazing. Looks get your foot in the door and open up the space for her to know your personality. If anything my dating experiences are more fulfilling now than before

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The sad thing is, I am describing most women in general.

I worked in tourism for a long while, and I know 3 languages fluently and 3 other non fluently, so my experience may be mostly Brazilian but it also includes spanish, american, british, irish, portuguese, italian, french, german, etc...

Also consider, I am describing a westernized woman in a westernized culture, not a traditional Brazilian woman or traditional any other culture (Traditional Brazilian women can be relied upon for support and care up to a degree, they may even like it).

You see, most cultures outside of the west have pressures into women for them to be positives to those around them. Western culture is the only culture I am aware of where women are accepted as being almost exclusively neutrals and negatives. Leading to the aforementioned... if a woman is not forced into being a positive by social pressures she will only do what she wants, ie.... at best hear what you have to say as personal gossip

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It’s not hard to be hot even if you’re poor. Some of the healthiest foods are the cheapest, and there are lots of effective means of exercise that are free. (Or, nowadays, there are gyms that are $10-15 a month.)

If you swing by the thrift stores outside of wealthy neighborhoods, you can get excellent and attractive clothing.

You don’t need to spend $200 every 4 weeks at the salon to have healthy and pretty hair; just keep your natural color, stay away from heat, and get trims every once in a while.

Also, men don’t really know the difference between those fake French manicures you can buy at the grocery store for like 10 bucks vs the $60 you’d pay at a nail salon, and they tend to prefer lighter make up, which you can get at a drugstore and apply sparingly. Men can’t even tell when women are or aren’t wearing make up.

The biggest challenges are going to be a) acting classy, if you’ve grown up in a less classy environment than the wealthy men, and b) putting yourself in spaces that wealthy men frequent, so that you can meet them.

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I look at it this way

Pua- pretty dead but it was a scam that grifters sold

RP- took parts of pua, dropped other parts. Made it a “philosophy” but spend most of the time talking philosophy without doing anything

Blac-pill- pua didn’t work (on Tinder). Rp also didn’t (on Tinder). Now their world is over!

MGTOW- Still not over that bitter breakup, but it’s still not thief fault! It’s their ex, and women, and society! That’s it: we are leaving! waits for people to notice

Alpha bros- listening to Jordan Peterson and rollo is cringe! Unless they are on Joe Rogan! (Pretty much rp but with hooters and strip clubs)

Proud boys: It’s hard to be a straight white man in America! You know who will help us? Politics!

Passport bros: Escorts are cheaper in other countries

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Question for ladies: you have two choices in men

Choice one in Aiden. He's a very attractive guy, whatever your physical standards are is extremely socially awkward and may be on the spectrum. He has a nasally slightly high pitched tone of voice and has a hard time with unspoken communication. He is very handsome though.

Choice two is John. He's ugly but he is insanely charismatic. Let me describe his charisma, he has a very attractive wnd commanding tone of voice. He speaks with amazing prose and knows just the right words to use and whereand when to use them. He is interested in others and tries to get acquianted with everyone, he even switches up his vernacular to suit the individual he is speaking with. He can write poems which bring you to tears and can put on a comedy routine which gives you great belly laughs. The only issue is that John is simply ugly.

Aiden and John are both good people. So, ladies which man do you choose?

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For comfortable men that don't know what real problems are, sure.

I am Brazilian, is there a brazilian who lives without real problems? I dont know any.

I wonder how come priests don't die from lack of sex

It is considered a penitence for a reason. It is suffering, a suffering you are supposed to take for your faith. It is in no difference from the acts of monks who beat themselves with thorny vines or sit in complete solitude for weeks as ways to feel closer to their gods. (also acts of penitence).

sorry, not having sex is not a real problem like BREATHING AIR lmao

Yes, it is more akin to hunger and thirst, as you can go without food and thirst for days to weeks without even feeling much of the consequences in your happiness and productivity levels...

It is by no means a mistake why lack of sex is often called "thirst" or "sexual starvation".

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yeahh,... about that, 1. I was born in a favela and currently live in one of the poorest state of the nation, it is true I am wealthy for our standards, but I am the reason I was able to reach here by effort. 2. I am not disconected, you are, as Chile is about 60% richer than Brazil in GDP per capita in PPP. 3. the UMC in Brazil are those who live between 680 and 720USD per month in purchasing power parity per month (2018 money). One does not need to be a economist to know that, but I happen to be one.

you don't even have real priests there, you only have those scammers from evangelical churches that steal people's money

Again you are disconnected, Brazil is the nation with the most catholics in the world.

anyway, it is known that priests don't kill themselves from lack of sex, that's hilarious

stop trying to make lack of sex a life threatening experience it just isn't sorry

It is not life threatening, it is suffering however, one many cannot deal with and prefer death simple as that. There is a reason we make our entire lives be about sex. We got no choice. We would not pursue sex like that if it was just for pleasure... We just hate to live in suffering and unproductiveness.

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... if you are not seeing that death as a cessation of suffering and thus somewhat a positive over long lasting suffering... I don't know what to say. It is akin to just letting a slave be beaten every single day is preferable to death... some will agree death is preferable. Same with sex. If anything I am pretty sure men prefer beating to sexlessness (please consider the number of rebelions started in ancient greece and rome because slaves were separated by gender for long periods of time, there is even a play about it)

There is a reason we seem like we are being overdramatic about this topic and only this topic, it is because are not being overdramatic, we are being precise in our definitions and feelings, women just dont believe us. They seriously think we are lying. So many dont even try and keep up the lie that women wanna live... that men do not suffer so much from sexlessness.

Go on, try it, go ask a homeless starving man or an exausted man if he prefers a hot meal/breathe normally of sex... I agree that starvation and tiredness may decrease our sexual drives, but I am willing to bet there is a 1/3 chance he will prefer sex. And the fact that you are asking that is proof you never tried it.

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... the whole point is that it is not some one sided afair... that if you dont pay back you will end up with losing friends (or at least good friends, there are always people desperate enough to remain around abusers, but it is not nice).

I agree that value is subjective, and that the cost of tolerating their negative experiences can be rather small, particularly if you are resilient, but there are limtits.

You are wrong, my friends give me their problems... they just pay me back, the same way I pay them back when I give them problems...

Again, from my point of view, you are the shitty friend for not aknowledging how much you need to pay to your friends for having to deal with YOUR problems... the same way they need to pay you for having to deal with THEIR problems... You have to agree that it is disfunctional to have a friends group which only cause more issue than solves, no?

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people have done that to me, i'm not that big, and i completely understand their reaction. i may be wearing a hoodie and look poor generally. the poorer you look, the higher the chances that you're homeless. if you're homeless, in some cities, there's a bigger chance that you might randomly assault someone.

i've done that to people. but they were obviously homeless dudes muttering shit. me and my friends refused to go down a street with a 4'10" homeless guy because he was so fucking scary.

at night especially, a huge number of women and some men will go to the other side of the street if it's just me and her. I can see people plan on how to avoid me from like a block away.

once you hear some stories, you understand why. some people are just knocked out by homeless meth addicts and shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTMCT0CgxIo

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there are different facts here.

most women consider a very small percentage of men physically attractive.

that's one fact. you can debate this, but we hear it from women in their forums, many of them agree with this.

many women aren't physically attracted to their husbands. this is a consequence of the first fact. Just because I link ONE woman, as an example, doesn't mean there aren't more examples on the internet. Obviously, we all can find thousands of more examples pretty quickly.

this may NOT apply to "most" women. I acknowledge that. I never claimed that that one applies to "most" women. It just isn't uncommon.

If someone says "No woman would ever do that" but someone links one single example, that argument should be over because obviously we can find One woman who WOULD do that.

This stuff my not be rampant or apply to most women. It just isn't uncommon. older women do often talk about their regrets and share advice to younger women. I'm not even saying that advice is GOOD or even that it applies to many women. It just exists, and women said it. Some older women gave that advice to younger women.

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Probably discussed before but where I live there is a serious epidemic of single mother hood

Like everytime I go to Walmart, there are always hordes of pregnant young women say ~21 or very young women with babies. It’s probably to the point where the amount of single women without children exponentially decreases above the age of 21

A girl I went to driving school was about 19, single and pregnant. And it’s like why?

It’s so sad IMO this place is already so fucked up, I wish women would please close legs sometimes. If these women waited until they are in stable relationships, stable financial situation, and most importantly, waited until they were mature enough, they would be infinitely better parents than they are now. And it’s easy to say I should stop judging people I don’t know, but looking at the situation with children in this area, I am very justified in my beliefs

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Q4All: Can becoming a non simp actually happen? If women want "masculine dominant" men in bed (obviously not outside the bedroom necessarily) can that actually be developed? Or if you're a pathetic beta coward simp you'll always be a pathetic simp?

Like I thought MMA would help me with confidence and being more dominating and that kind of stuff. But very obviously just looking at how I act around people, it has not. I will cringe and curl up into a ball and say "pls don't hurt me mr I din do nothing" when someone so much as raises their voice to me, even if I could slam their head through the mantle of the earths crust.

There was literally a time when I went to beginners BJJ (cause sometimes it's fun to just crush white belts for half an hour) and this dude about my size was just getting manhandled by me and I was just kind of lazily moving from position to position while he's spazzing out under me until he tapped (from pressure, I wasn't even doing anything, I was using him like a training dummy) and he stood up and yelled at me and looked like he was going to try to punch me (which would have been a bad fucking idea, it's not like I don't box too) and I literally ran and hid behind my coach (who is better at BJJ than me, but I can beat in MMA) and cowered behind him there until coach told him to leave.

So for me I'm pretty sure I'll always be pathetic, against anyone, and everyone

But is this always true? can that base personality be changed for anyone?

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A whore of a daughter.

There is no real way for a woman to fail in life outside of her fucking herself badly with some self destructive habit... as long my whore of a daughter doesnt enter drugs or sex work... she will win anyway. And even their lowest days will probably soar higher than my highest highs...

Unfortunately, a badboy for a son would need to struggle a lot in order to reach any kind of happiness. Don't get me wrong, I would love that my boy doesn't struggle with sex, but he would have quite a few passes with bigotry, hatred, poverty, struggle, self hatred, depression, suicide idealization and close-to-death experiences... we all do, constantly... many unlucky ones have all of those before they even are adults... I would not have the heart to bring a child into the world just to see them suffer and suffer and suffer and suffer... I am not THAT heartless to bring another slave into the world... one of my own blood... If I can choose.

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Eh not really because men and women have different options when it comes to birth control and reproduction. The woman will always have more control over her body (and thus if she has a kid) than a man does to a woman he gets pregnant. If a woman is having hookups and doesn’t want a baby she’s likely on birth control, requires him to use a Condom, could get a morning after pill and if all three fail and it was her last option she could get an abortion.

Men don’t have all those Options. They can ensure they wear a condom, but if it breaks and the woman ends up pregnant he’s reliant on her decision. If he was smart and having sex with someone on the same Page as him on what to Do in case of unintended pregnancy then he is sweet. If not, he doesn’t really get a choice in if she has a baby, and if she does while he doesn’t need to be in the child’s life he is likely going to be paying child support.

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My friend that women literally stare at with agape mouths?

Around 5'10. But in better shape than I am.

It was funny, we went out bar hopping this weekend and he was like "Bro the way to pick up women is just to look around and they will look at you for a while and you can go up to them then".

And then he proceeded to do that. Women would stare at him he'd say "Okay watch how I do it" and then rizz her up get the number.

Then he'd tell me "Okay now we're going to look around for women looking at you" and he started ignoring all the women staring at him.

And then after a few hours and a few bars he want "Hm...well...fuck".

It was interesting seeing someone who was so certain about how it worked for everyone, because he is attractive, and then realizing in real time that it doesn't work like that.

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If the younger women actually is in a "strong position". For example, has a clear mind, has good social and family support, truly isn't stuck, and thought this relationship through seeking the guidance of those with just as much life experience as the older man, then I have no issues with it. I think most people when thinking about an age gap relationship isn't worried about that dynamic.

However, the women that do have good parental support, good friends / social life, and financially stable are the least likely to be in age gap relationships. We're worried about the significant portion of the women that have some kind of dysfunctional situation in her life that is making this decision without the guidance of someone wiser and can be manipulated easier.

Now men can be taken advantage of by younger women too, but overall people are generally less sympathetic if a 40 year old got played by a 20 year old than 20 year old got played by a 40 year old. You're just expected to know better when you're older. Also... this sounds bad and agist, but society tend to value younger people more than older people period. Because younger people have more potential years left to live. If you screw up someone's life when they're 20, people feel like that's worse than if you screw up someone when they're 40. We see this in law as well as the medical industry where we do value the life of a younger person more. We save children before adults, adults before elderly etc .

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Unless he has her at gunpoint she is never stuck in any way at all.

vs

Homelessness and poverty and danger to life and limb are normal situations and consequences of choices, if that's what she faces when she leaves him she's not facing anything unreasonable/unusual.

These are decisions that takes some discernment, wisdom, and life experience to make well. You and I might be in a good position to weight the pros and cons of a situation and figure out if it's worth staying vs the alternative, but someone that's young or in a dysfunctional situation might not. That's why I said guidance and support is important. I completely think there are some situations where even when she has full support of loving family and friends, someone with sufficient life experience and wisdom can decide it is ok or the best path to date someone older. I'm not blanket against age gaps, it just needs to be scrutinized on a case by case basis.

Managing your life to avoid those things regardless of agreements/relationships you enter into is 100% your own responsibility and not something someone else is holding over you. It's your problem and your fault.

Ultimately yes, but realistically as a society no. Any young person with little life experience needs help in dealing with the world. We have a legal age of 18 for logistical purposes of when we don't need a guardian anymore, but realistically we need lots of help as a child and need less and less guidance as we get older. Which is why we expect a 40 year old to know better than a 20 year old and feel less sympathy towards them when they're played.

If my 20 year old cousin tells me tomorrow he's signing a business contract with a 40 year old to invest all his savings but with a high return, my first instinct is don't do it, and second instinct would be to read and lawyer the hell out of that contract. It's possible that this is a good deal, but I know it's highly risky. In this case I want someone with more life, business, and legal knowledge to look at it to make up for this uneven knowledge in business between my cousin and his much more experienced partner. Similarly, I just want someone with more life experience to look at a relationship objectively when there's an uneven amount of life experience between the two potential partners.

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I've finally found something that I've found a lot of women say, it seems fairly consistent, that annoys me.

Which is rare, normally when women complain and whine my response is "Yeah that's valid. Shit sucks" (men mostly make up shit to whine about IME).

And that's complaining that so many men are unattractive, yet claiming that the solution to them being unattractive is as simple as "muh grooming" grooming.

I wake up, I lift, I eat 4 eggs, I train, I lift again, I do HIIT stuff, I've posted my schedule earlier on in this thread. It's around probably 8 hours a day of exercise. Then I have to diet, I eat strictly baked chicken and broccoli + some random greens. If I'm lucky I get to eat a baked potato. I take supplements so that I don't eat up extra calories. I take 3 different drink supplements, a pre-workout, a during workout drink, and a post workout protein shake.

I spend probably 30-40 minutes to day on various maitenance. Skincare (got to cleanse, moisturize, exfoliate, face oil to reduce irritation, retinoid to smooth fine lines, use an antioxidant serum both AM and PM and of course SPF in the morning. IN addition to all the normal routine like "You don't shower enough, brush your godamn teeth". And of course I go to an aesthetician every 3 months to remove any blackheads and do general maintenance.

Doing this has taken me from:

Fucking ugly as fuck (as decided upon by a plurality of women here who saw my picture when I first started posting)

to

Fucking ugly as fuck (as decided upon by a plurality of women here who saw my picture)

No reasonable human being (I am nothing if not unreasonable) would go through all of the effort I have gone through to look almost attractive and EVEN AFTER ALL THAT the conclusion is that I'm ugly as fuck. So when I read "literally just do basic grooming, why don't men do basic grooming :( :( :( :( :( :( "

It's just fucking infuriating.

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Yes... bad at something useful is a improvement compared to not doing it at all...

Most men born after 93 do childcare and homemake better than women anyway... if we cared that much about quality, we would do it all ourselves, but we are also the ones who are best at gaining money, so we must prioritize.

Ehm... have you seen the house of a woman who lives alone or with friends?... dont talk as if we never seen it... Most young women, particularly those around the age of 25, cannot juggle work and chores, even when they share a house with 5 other women.

At least men clean their houses to an acceptable degree before they invite someone over... you know? My clothes would never be thrown around the floor when I lived with friends, and only rarely when I lived alone... We can see what women can do, and we are unimpressed.

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There is a reason all the issues with youth like drug usage and violence and suicide... is said to be in "fatherless homes"... because single fathers as good or better than 2 parent homes (with children older than 3). The only negative associated with father only households is alcohol use (not alcohol abuse thats single mothers issue, alcohol use, as fathers tend to treat children as small adults).

These women survive using the resources available to them, like everything else. They dont need to pay any discretionary spending (all is paid by parents and men) so they can ask for housekeepers, if they work or just wait for their parents to do it. Funnily enough many times a father, as many such women have fathers more than willing to be part of their lives... but they refuse.

But I will have to admit. Thats middle income or more... poor women actually need to do something in their house and often do (some even do it well)

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First of all, what does it have to with cleaning and cooking? I thought we were talking about general population, not drug addicts or criminals.

Secondly, there are far more single mothers than single fathers. I'd guess that there are more single mothers who were not prepared to have kids, then there are single fathers in the same position - men who aren't prepared to have kids have the opportunity just to leave these kids with their mother. Women usually don't have this option and they have to do as well as they can. Which isn't that well if you're young and poor. Single fathers tend to fare better financially and there are multiple studies showing that when we control for finance single mothers don't do worse than single fathers.

So is there any other way to measure who is better at keeping the household and child care?

How many women do you know who have housekeepers? Personally I know...2 I think and they're all working women who make their own money.

Also most stats show that women on average spend far more time on chores and kids than men do. Your idea that fathers just clean for their daughters makes no sense.

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You asked how we know men are better at childcare. I told you how we know.

The cleanign and cooking thing is mostly observation... any cooking event mostly will have men greatly outpacing any woman or girl... and well... because men are being forced to cook. It is clear how much better they are at it than women https://www.italymagazine.com/italy/italian-kids-prefer-dad-s-cooking-mom-s

Men and women have very differing ways to deal with both kids and housework. We dont dilly dally. We dont bitch. We just do what needs to be done.

I recommend checking again these researches cause men usually are famous for easily and rather efortlessly doing the job of multiple women... we dont mind doing it. So we do everything and let women believe they did it.

All women my age who can afford it use housekeepers when they live alone or with friends. And rely heavily on takeout too. I mean. They have their entire salary for themselves as their parents pays their bills and their lovers their entertainment and outings... what else would that money be used into?

I would sugest you revisit these stats. As any man with even the slightest of experiences and will usually greatly outperform women... it being the reason why most commercial and industrial cleaning crews refuse to employ women, they sit around taking their time too much... one guy can clean an entire floor with a broon and cloth in a few hours while a womam may take multiple days with industrial grade tech.... again it is a question of will. Just because the average guy has no will to do it... doesnt mean he wont finish it best... he just tend to prefer using his skills somewhere more useful.

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As I've said - there are studies measuring different attributes and when they control for finance, they often find that single mothers and fathers don't fare much differently. I remember one about school drop outs, I think with controlled finance women did a bit better than men.

Cooking events don't really tell anything about one's regular cooking. Professional cooking is different from cooking for your whole family.

Fathers appear to enjoy themselves in the kitchen with 45% now alternating with the mother in making dinner during the week and 34% taking over at the weekend and on Sundays.

Do I read it correctly that fathers cook less often than mothers do? I'm not sure whether these 45% and 34% are different groups or they overlap. With fathers cooking less often, I'd guess they have more time and energy to cook by requests and make more elaborate meals.

Are they? I've heard more stories about men being left with kids for a weekend or a week while a mother is at hospital or on a business trip and the women returning to a total mess of a house.

Do you live in Brazil? It's probably a cultural difference, where we used to live, housekeepers are pretty rare. Women in my family can call a firm to clean the windows twice a year or do the cleaning after rennovation, but that's pretty much it and they all work, so they pay out of shared budget (that they contribute pretty evenly with their partners) or out of their own pocket if they're single/partner doesn't work.

Males make up 69% of the building cleaners and janitors, while females account to 86% of maids and housekeepers.

So a third of building cleaners are women, it doesn't look like they refuse to hire women in this industry. Can you look up industrial cleaning stats?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6678233/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6044284/

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=How_do_women_and_men_use_their_time_-_statistics&oldid=463738

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11150-022-09642-6

I've briefly gone through the links, gonna read them tomorrow.

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Just because a woman is coupled up, married or dating doesn’t mean she isn’t bitter.

I didn’t say that at all. What I said was the women here are mostly coupled up and not bitter.

A lot of post wall women come here because the narrative that RP men say has played out.

What I’m seeing is that most of the older women (25+) are happily married or in LTRs. Like I said, there’s only like 2 divorced women here… there’s like another one who’s currently an escort who is looking for love, but she seems to enjoy making money from her femininity and is optimistic about dating.

There is something women aren’t satisfied with and that brings them here.

Disagree. I think we just like to gawk at the train wreck which is the men’s discourse on here, and sometimes try to set them straight.

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Men don't care as much about women intelligence in dating, but they do apprecitate it

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