Seems like half the posts on here and on fds are related to this topic.

Let's break down the FDS logic on 3 different issues first, then compare them to paying for dates.

porn

Men shouldn't watch it because it makes them want a fucked up sex life

building up his confidence

Only date men that are already confident. If you build up an introvert's confidence levels, he'll use that confidence to find a different girl and leave you

sex too early

Don't do it because if he only wants to use you as a pump and dump he'll just ghost you if you have sex too soon

All 3 of these issues have a common theme. The theme is, don't let men use you.

You always hear, "if he wants to split the bill he's just using you as a hookup." How?

Here's some Red Pill logic. If she won't split a bill or pay for a date sometimes then she's not willing to invest in a relationship. If she won't invest, she isnt good for an ltr and we keep her around as a plate.

I see it fifty times a day: sEvEnTy DoLlArS iSnT tHaT mUcH fOr A dAtE aNd If A mAn WaNtS tO sPlIt SeVeNtY DoLlArS hE iS ChEaP."

A bunch of millennial girls that constantly bitch about how they're broke are suddenly saying $70 is chump change when it comes to a man buying them shit. Funny.

You go on a date once, sometimes twice a week, 5 dates a month adds up to $350 a month in dates. For what? A 6/10 music therapy major that will think of having sex with you after 3 months. Sure.

Once again: how can a man see you as a pump and dump if he wants a $350 per month burden to be financed with you as a partnership (i.e. split the bill)

Me personally: i pay for everything for my pump and dumps, I expect an LTR to help pay for dates. And if she won't, she's a pump and dump.

Porn addiction? Reasonable red flag. Low self esteem? Reasonable red flag. Trying to fuck on first date? Reasonable red flag.

Let's list a few more.

He won't make the relationship status visible on Facebook, he won't delete tindr, he wants to be introduced to your female friends, he makes a lot of derogatory remarks about women. All are red flags.

But wanting to split a bill is treated as the biggest red flag? B.s! We just want to see that the girl will invest in us, and to make sure we aren't wasting our time. The only women that say its a red flag are too entitled to feel they have to pay for a date and just want goodies. It's selfish and gold digging, straight up!

Edit: this isn't just discussed on FDS, it is this subreddit also. Half the threads here lately are about men paying for dates and all of them are filled with comments saying "if he wants to split the bill then you're a pump and dump to him...sixty dollars is chump change, he's got it!"

2nd edit: there's one thing we can conclude. There's no consensus. That's significant because, this means the boomer cultural norms are increasingly weakening. It's weakened so there's no "rule" on this issue any more, which sucks for everyone who feels there is a rule, whether it be a modern rule or traditional one. So it appears we need one more f generation of defying boomerism to sort it out.