What are the benefits to dating a red pill man?

LalaTheSecond · 2022-02-01T17:57:07+00:00

You get to watch homoerotic movies together.

SylvestorTalone · 2022-02-01T22:21:48+00:00

Obviously none, there aren't supposed to be. It's the exploitative male strategy, it's only designed to benefit the man.

Lonely_23_1997 · 2022-02-01T18:28:30+00:00

If you like drama and the feeling of chasing a guy for a relationship that realistically won’t pan out then they’re a great choice. They can perpetually provide excitement from this type of experience. Or at the very least until you’re replaced with a plate that’s hotter.

If you want a healthy loving relationship, good sex, a partner that makes time for you, monogamy, marriage etc red pill men are the worst choice for that.

fikus_the_old · 2022-02-01T18:13:44+00:00

He won't be overthinking in bed, only during all other relationship moments

TomorrowsWar · 2022-02-01T17:36:03+00:00

You get a consistent form of drama so you don’t need to watch reality tv ever again!

Oh, and you get to hang out on red pill women subs and say stuff like “I love that my captain never goes down on me!! I’m so totally in love.”

virgothot88 · 2022-02-02T05:39:10+00:00

Red pill men really just want men

LUCKYMAZE · 2022-02-01T22:56:02+00:00

for a woman? none

studiocel · 2022-02-01T20:23:30+00:00

He can hold alot of frames which is useful if you are decorating your house

tiposk · 2022-02-01T19:04:12+00:00

Having the honor of getting picked by a high value man once he's done running his dick through all the bars in town and realizing he deserves a woman who kept her n-count low just for him.
Being provided by a man who insists that I stay home while simultaneously keeping my hypergamy in check.
The emotional rollercoaster of the dread game.
Having him wake up at 5:00 to call some random dude on PPD a cuck.
Watching him point at the collapse of the Western civilization with one hand while jerking to instathots with the other one.

JacobMoogberg69 · 2022-02-01T22:49:10+00:00

With all the lifting he does he can certainly help you move apartments or arrange furniture.

If you happened to be one of his plates, you benefit from only getting mediocre sex once a week instead of all the time.

richerthanrichard · 2022-02-01T19:04:34+00:00

If you want to be made feel worthless as someone projects their inadequacies onto you, then you should date one

Stunning-Potato-1984 · 2022-02-01T18:45:11+00:00

None. This is a very obvious answer.

Hard_Corsair · 2022-02-01T20:18:57+00:00

There is none. TRP doesn't believe relationships can be symbiotic. Their whole ethos is to benefit from a malicious relationship, because the only alternative they see is to suffer from a malicious relationship.

Scarypaperplates · 2022-02-01T22:45:42+00:00

There are benefits?!

ruboyuri · 2022-02-01T17:00:01+00:00

Some women like playing games, traditional gender roles/priorities, and/or emotional constipation

Feisty-Saturn · 2022-02-01T18:01:33+00:00

None. No benefit.

angerproblemsTM · 2022-02-01T21:32:39+00:00

I’d really love some Red Pilled men to comment why they’re worth dating lmao. This is interesting

goatismycopilot · 2022-02-01T21:41:01+00:00

I cannot think of any benefit.

cowfishAreReal · 2022-02-01T16:53:19+00:00

There aren't any. Me and my partner are equals, that doesn't work with red pill men. I also think kindness, and being able to express their emotions and communicate properly are important in a partner

AntWillFortune15 · 2022-02-02T05:48:17+00:00

None. Next question…

Flightlessbirbz · 2022-02-01T19:22:10+00:00

I haven’t been able to think of anything. You get someone who resents you, thinks you’re inferior, is always in a combative mindset because they think of every interaction as a win/lose game, and tries to manipulate you. Fun.

fatalcharm · 2022-02-01T20:34:41+00:00

Easy to manipulate. Sorry guys, but you all discuss your dating tactics online where any woman can read them… other people don’t do that so you actually have to work to figure them out.

Dell_Hell · 2022-02-01T16:52:25+00:00

There's no man in town as admired as red pill

You're everyone's favorite guy

Everyone's awed and inspired by you

and it's not very hard to see why!

No one's slick as Red Pill

No one's quick as Red Pill

No one's neck's as incredibly thick as Red Pill

For there's no man in town half as manly!

Perfect, a pure paragon!

You can ask any Tom, Dick or Stanley

And they'll tell you whose team they prefer to be on!

Simps and Chorus: No one's been like Red Pill

A king pin like Red Pill

Simps: No one's got a swell cleft in his chin like Red Pill

Red Pill: As a specimen, yes, I'm intimidating!

Simps and Chorus: My what a guy, that Red Pill! Give five "hurrahs!" Give twelve "hip-hips!"

Simps: Red Pill is the best and the rest is all drips!

Chorus: No one fights like Red Pill

Douses lights like Red Pill

In a wrestling match nobody bites like Red Pill!

Bimbettes: For there's no one as burly and brawny

Red Pill: As you see, I've got biceps to spare

Simps: Not a bit of him's scraggly or scrawny.

Red Pill: That's right! And every last inch of me's covered with hair!

Chorus: No one hits like Red Pill Matches wits like Red Pill

Simps: In a spitting match nobody spits like Red Pill

Red Pill: I'm especially good at expectorating! Ptoooie!

Chorus: Ten points for Red Pill!

Red Pill: When I was a lad I ate four dozen eggs Ev'ry morning to help me get large And now that I'm grown I eat five dozen eggs So I'm roughly the size of a barge

Chorus: No one shoots like Red Pill Makes those beauts like Red Pill

Simps: Then goes tromping around Wearing boots like Red Pill! Red Pill: I use antlers in all of my decorating!

Chorus: Say it again! Who's a man among men? And then say it once more Who's that hero next door? Who's a super success? Don't you know? Can't you guess? Ask his fans and his five hangers-on There's just one guy in town Who's got all of it down...

Simps: And his name's R-E-D... P... R-E-D-P-I... R-E-D-P-I... ohh, ow...

Chorus: RED PILL!!! Chorus: My what a guy! RED PILL!

Vtridolla · 2022-02-01T17:15:28+00:00

Well you will most likely be shamed for any independence which is always nice. You will have to deal with a lot of double standards and battle their insecurities, always a lovely combination. You’ll have the privilege of watching them moan and yell at computer monitors and type viciously on public forums. Oh and you’ll get to watch them compare themselves to literally every other dude. They also seem to love the country of Chad. 🇹🇩

OfCatandPagan · 2022-02-01T21:42:25+00:00

Here's the PG rated list of Benefits:

chilumibrainrot · 2022-02-01T23:19:04+00:00

red pill men don't want loving, long term relationships. they want to control their partner. there are no benefits.

Freak-O-Natcha · 2022-02-01T21:32:40+00:00

Emotional abuse, the "privilege" of not having to get a 9-5 and instead working around the clock in the home with zero help, pay or recognition and maybe getting beat or abused if you don't meet his standards, being told you're lesser than him constantly because you're a "fragile, ignorant feeeeemale"

Source: ex turned to the red pill halfway thru relationship and it was horrendous. Never doing that again

lucid_intent · 2022-02-01T19:00:33+00:00

I was recently red pilled. Such a mind fuck. I told him I couldn’t see him anymore because he made me feel crazy and I’m not.

Edited to add: he contacted me again after a month asking for another chance.

Bingobops · 2022-02-01T19:11:00+00:00

You can both get your nails done together lol

sine120 · 2022-02-01T17:14:48+00:00

Red Pill ideology is not for the benefit of the woman, it observes and seeks to explain the behavior of (in my opinion) women with poor morals and help him get sex while avoiding costly divorce. If you have strong morals, using RP tactics will sabotage himself in a relationship, it's the wrong tool for the job.

GenerationZ3RO · 2022-02-01T22:22:04+00:00

If you are dating a red pill man, then you are dating an ideology and not the man.

doggiedoc2004 · 2022-02-02T00:44:38+00:00

No benefits for long term relationships. Possibly for short term friends with benefits IF he is really good in bed. I would never date someone who didn’t have an egalitarian attitude toward their long term mate. I am a professional, 6 figure earner that is prob 7-8/10 looks who excepts a true partnership only. I’d spot a red pill dude pretty quick. Fuck that. My mate is my equal.

ThatGirl50 · 2022-02-02T03:31:32+00:00

Absolutely none. The reason my partner and I work is because of kindness, compassion and selflessness. None of those qualities are possessed by anyone seriously following TRP.

LVScrote · 2022-02-02T06:08:03+00:00

If you are lucky, he will spit on your ass before he shoves his beer can cock up there. Might even throw a towel over your face after he blows his load all over it. What more could a woman want?

ogsimpology · 2022-02-02T06:08:51+00:00

Red pill men base their existence around "not caring about women" SO much, to the point of doing everything just so they could attract as many as possible.

A woman won't benefit here, it's a specifically male strategy for being a womanizer.

Psychological_Bug160 · 2022-02-02T14:59:49+00:00

If you like suffering and most likely experiencing physical abuse, they’re perfect for you!

(Not talking at you, just to the few people who think redpill men are awesome for some reason)

crookedsummer2019 · 2022-02-01T20:53:34+00:00

They would be less likely to be clingy?

Mostly because they will only contact you for ‘logistics’ lol.

Which actually leaves lots of time to chat with other men. But don’t tell him that because no contact between dates is supposed to make us ponder over and desire him more or some shit, according to their manual.

Salt_Mathematician24 · 2022-02-01T17:46:56+00:00

Plenty of opportunity to argue and debate, which can be enjoyable.

luliloo · 2022-02-01T21:07:19+00:00

He knows how to deal with me, my emotions and my shit tests.

He naturally leads so it easier for me and decreases my tendency to overthink.

He understands the reality of the dating market so it makes him appreciate me even more. Things other guys saw as flaws, he sees as a good thing.

He’s very honest and blunt. I like being like that too. PPD people like to complain RP men are liars? But my guy would not care about saying the most offensive RP truths to me.

Pretty sure he was naturally RP before he learned about it. He’s always been fit, smart, hard working and became very successful so I don’t attribute that to RP. It was mainly the divorce inequality that opened his eyes.

MrMushySauce · 2022-02-01T17:02:02+00:00

Well, are we talking about someone who believes in the philosophy mentally, or someone who acts on it in the real world?

Because someone who acts on it would be fit, wealthy, and smooth. The downside is they would have high standards. These people already exist in the world they're just not called RP. RP is about emulating the people at the top; so if someone was truly "RP," with or without the label, they'd be attractive and high status.

There's no tangible benefit to them believing it; if they believe it without acting on it, that's probably a shitty option for a woman. All the downside and none of the upside. But if they do act on it, well, those people already exist, and women really like them.

WilliamWyattD · 2022-02-01T18:20:31+00:00

Just as with Blue Pill, Red Pill guys come in many types. There is a lot of bullshit and overreach in TRP. Lots of prescriptive theories based on the assumption that getting lots of casual sex is the most important thing in life, etc. But there is also a lot of truth you don't see anywhere else.

If you get a guy who has filtered TRP properly, you get the advantage of having a man who is grounded in reality. He has truth on his side. Over time, it's likely you will come to see the truth. Your kids will grow up grounded in the truth. This can't be bad.

On the other hand, if you get a guy who has bought into too much of the TRP bullshit, without the right filter, it could indeed be a disaster. Depends what falsehoods he accepted. Same is true of BP, of course. But BP has less extreme rough edges.

FabulousFuchsbau · 2022-02-01T20:38:56+00:00

Guaranteed benefits of being with one and I’m using some not so great stuff that happened to my health recently(and what would have happened if I’d married a Red Piller):

Getting divorced while going through cancer treatments

Likely getting cheated on when I couldn’t physically have sex

Single motherhood

Possibly tearing open my c-section incision because if he goes 24hrs without sex it’s abuse

Not saying this is all Red Pillers just that it’s a guarantee since they’re open about not being wholesome people. It’s like seeing a red flag and still saying “This doesn’t look dangerous at all.”

Bendetto4 · 2022-02-01T18:37:22+00:00

Some women love being with men that actively despise women and hate them with every fabric of their being because they are bitter and angry incels.

logiauser · 2022-02-01T16:53:41+00:00

RP men aren't all poly nor are all BP men monogamous. You have to deal with people individually.

RP men just have about the same distrust of women that women have of men IMO.

The only benefit is that they may be in better shape?

TheJim66 · 2022-02-01T18:10:33+00:00

Why isn't this a Q4RP?

Anyway, you'll get someone who can maintain your attraction and who understands the burden of performance needed to keep you into him.

That's the only "constant" I can think of. Everythint else would depend on the dude and his goals.

One_Intention_8695 · 2022-02-01T21:20:09+00:00

you get Kevin Samuels podcasts for free. also

...no, just this one.

_that_dam_baka_ · 2022-02-01T20:10:27+00:00

If he's hot and you want kids, you get kids. That's it. Get ready to find a job and move out.

Editing to add:

If being RP mam means he doesn't “allow” you to work, you probably also get alimony and child support.

Note that your own job prospects won't be good if you stay with him too long for that and cold support of meant for the actual child.

Insidious-Sid · 2022-02-01T20:24:58+00:00

It seems like if a red pilled man believes that “men age like wine and women age like milk,” it would hurt me in the future. A blue pill man may tell me that I would look better with age because overtime he’ll fall more in love with me (something my blue pilled partner regularly tells me).

Your Blue Pill man tells his woman that after having 3 kids, gaining 100 pounds and going from a size 6 to a size 16 she's "everybit as beautiful as the day he met her". And of course, he's lying.

Again, a blue pilled man may hold firm that loyalty is one of the defining traits and a virtue of a monogamous relationship

Or maybe he's a Red Pill man in cognito and he's only happy because he's simply accepted the fact that she's not his, it' just his turn.

Most men today are Red Pilled to some extent and women date these guys every single day.

But, some women might find their scam increasingly difficult to sell to would-be Beta Bux provider males. It's these males who have the most to gain and nothing to lose by adopting some Red Pill philosophies and accompanying strategy.

Semisonic · 2022-02-01T20:56:00+00:00

Red pill is about knowledge. It was always, at its core, a data driven look into intersexual dynamics. Even back in the pickup artist days. From that it became a (counter) culture aimed at exposing the ideologically motivated lies society pushes about men and women. Lies which are harmful to both genders, btw!

Blue pill might be a pretty lie. A comforting, familiar one. It might be a lie that makes you feel better, seemingly empowers women (go ask the record number of single, childless or single mother women out there), and makes courtship smoother. But it’s still a lie. At best, willful ignorance.

And relationships based on a lie will never be as good or as intimate as relationships based on the truth. True intimacy is really knowing your partner well. That includes all the good and the bad.

BecretAlbatross · 2022-02-01T23:16:09+00:00

I don't think there are any specific benefits, the IDEA is that a Red Pill man is more likely to be high value, confident, and fun to be around. This only applies if this guy has actually done the work. The Red Pill as an ideology isn't going to make a guy more attractive to women.

ChadThundagaCock · 2022-02-01T23:57:40+00:00

They won’t (or shouldn’t be) texting you “how are you doing” every 5 seconds.

TheRedPillRipper · 2022-02-02T03:09:35+00:00

other red pill slogans I can discuss

What about lifting? Or making bank? How about honing your social skills, and mastering your frame?

I’m not saying your take is wrong. It’s however disingenuous to only highlight what your perceive as negative. Without including the positives.

how it benefits

Those facets aforementioned. Which are core tenets of TRP. Borne from self awareness. Actioned into self improvement.

Godspeed and good luck!

Willow-girl · 2022-02-02T06:08:45+00:00

It would be kind of amusing to watch him thumb through his mental playbook, looking for the right words or strategy to make your legs fly open. "Hmm, should I try Amused Mastery this time? Or maybe I should 'neg' her ..."

80hdADHD · 2022-02-02T06:34:14+00:00

“Red pill” men are usually just guys traumatized by a divorce that they probably contributed to to some degree but can’t admit to themselves.

AscendantBae9 · 2022-02-02T07:21:19+00:00

Being provided for with strict limits because a woman doesn't deserve more than a shitty allowance

Being a maid, chef, caregiver, errand runner, sex object, baby producing machine, and shrink of someone who will never be even a little emotionally vulnerable with you

Being "dominated" in bed by a repressed wannabe alpha who wants you to be his slut while simultaneously hating you for it

Many more, but I think these are the worst

Ugandabekiddingme2 · 2022-02-03T01:14:48+00:00

None.

KirthWGersen · 2022-02-01T17:26:58+00:00

The main benefit is a man who accepts women as they are, not as he would ideally like them to be, and therefore finds ways to work around her shortcomings.

The main disadvantage is a willingness to move on if you persistently misbehave.

StarchRunner · 2022-02-01T18:40:47+00:00

If I am looking at it from the perspective of a single woman, what are the advantages of dating someone red pill?

I'm fit in my 40s, a lotta guys in my age slacked off and are fat and disgusting. Have been for twenty years, so it won't slip.

I believe in loyalty as a red pill dude, but only if reciprocated. Give and you shall recieve.

I don't have much to prove and no neediness to boot. I don't need validation and babysitted like a lot of young guys who are constantly unsure of themselves or desperately need to fit into a group. I know how to get things done without whining.

I'm pretty good in the sack.

And my boyish charm

^_^

No_Regular1586 · 2022-02-02T00:36:53+00:00

He'll be muscular, charming, and attractive?

prettymuchredpilled · 2022-02-01T20:02:16+00:00

Red pill philosophy is designed to benefit men in a gynocentric society that already caters heavily to women's needs. So asking how TRP benefits women is kind of a non sequitur.

No_Exercise_8670 · 2022-02-01T18:06:58+00:00

RP is not about women. It is about helping men or even saving them.

EdessaKandros · 2022-02-01T16:54:49+00:00

The benefits of dating a red pilled man is that his masculinity brings out my feminine energy. Him focusing on being the best man he can be allows and encourages me to be the best woman I can be. I’ve improved a lot since being with him and learned a lot of things. I’m objectively a more valuable person now that I’ve been with him. He holds me accountable for my actions and makes his expectation for his women clear.

I think a common misconception is that red pilled men are incapable of being loyal to a woman they are with and that it’s just the woman’s ‘turn’. Whether blue pilled or red pilled a man that isn’t commitment minded isn’t going to be loyal long term. My boyfriend is somewhat red pilled but mostly trad pilled, he very much is commitment minded for the right woman that brings value to his life.

WholeCelebration4567 · 2022-02-01T19:53:25+00:00

It’s really best for people looking for a traditional nuclear family. Some of the benefits are having a breadwinning man in the hole with authority. Opening door and all of that chivalry included.

OwOFemboyUwU · 2022-02-01T21:29:10+00:00

Did this thread get brigaded?

InfernoFlameBlast · 2022-02-01T17:14:11+00:00

IMO, the only benefit is attraction. Red pill men seem to posses more masculine traits like being dominant, assertive, stoic, strong…etc. From my perspective, women seem to be attracted to those masculine traits

Snoo_16536 · 2022-02-01T19:39:39+00:00

Fit body , financially stable, sexual experience and a rational leader. etc.

the-lone-squid · 2022-02-01T19:15:43+00:00

Red pill man? Or men who read the red pill?

Naturally red piled men are most likely successful with women for a reason. Sure you could marry a normie bloop. But from life experience those women are rarely happy and usually just get some on the side.

Which honestly may work out for her. Get your money and have fun on the side. Most women do that anyway after so many years

CatoftheBanals · 2022-02-01T19:27:34+00:00

None. It *should* align with tradcon gender roles, but it doesn't, really. Hard to say, though, cause RP guys run the gamut from pseudo-tradcon to MGTOW. Let's just say if you're a tradcon woman, you wouldn't be all that into a guy who wants you to sign a prenup, go half on dates, have sex quickly in the relationship, and go back to work soon after you have a kid, all of which have been views or expectations put out by RP men on this sub (and if you're tradcon you sure aren't going for MGTOW). And if you're not a tradcon woman, you wouldn't really be compatible with a guy who held tradcon views on gender roles while also having modern expectations when it suited him (casual/early sex, double income, prenup).

sarkington · 2022-02-01T21:11:09+00:00

If you’re into traditional gender roles and/or the more shallow/antagonistic/high conflict/materialistic/transactional/competetive facets of dating —- sure, you’d probably like red pill men

Those women definitely exist in large numbers and are dominant in certain dating markets. Unfortunately, not many of them are on Reddit

dreadgamedurmum · 2022-02-01T22:00:03+00:00

Well you get to be a woman. The best qualities of femininity come out when you're with a man who is masculine.

However RP men know what AF/BB is. And thats not good for you.

Popular-Rate3182 · 2022-02-01T23:06:05+00:00

We focus more on ourselves and on our own purpose/meaning in life. Realize everything in life is temporary so we don’t attach ourselves to things/people we cannot control. Reduces the amount of games/tests from the get-go, increases overall attraction due to remaining non-reactive. I am at a point where I have realized that the majority of people are not going to be available simply due to FRICTION, people are always going to remain somewhat out of reach due to circumstances you can’t control, boyfriend, logistics, timing, etc. I would also recommend following stoicism and Buddhism but only for personal fulfillment, not to just impress women when you try to hit on them. Also something that probably should be mentioned is focusing on our finances due to suffering that is caused by the lack of it. Instead of ripping and smelling your own farts to satisfy your own moral superiority, how about we have an actual discussion without having to resort to emotions because MY FEELZZZ REE. 😞 😒

TodTheRod01 · 2022-02-01T23:25:22+00:00

Ya cuz nooooo blue pill man would lie to you...100% honest in telling you you looking hotter than at 20yrs old...

parahacker · 2022-02-02T00:43:00+00:00

ITT: a bunch of idiots who only have third-hand knowledge of anything RP talked about dog RP.

Meanwhile, most RP concepts that were completely mind-blowing 20 years ago are mainstream now; so the other half of comments here are, "So, RP are just into self-improvement but made a cult about it."

Frankly, all y'alls are missing the point. RP already won. It doesn't need a name or self-identity anymore, it's so mainstream that "Red Pill" has to become something different in order to be anything other than "normal self-improvement bullshit."

Not realizing that that "self improvement bullshit" wasn't always normal. Not in the context of dating and relationships. It just wasn't a thing there.

For real. Concepts like "social proof" didn't exist before RP, at least not in their current form. A LOT of human behavior, both from men and women, is far more conceptualized and understandable now than before RP.

All y'alls are using RP concepts to argue with each other and yet dogging RP at the same time. It's hilarious. Never change, PPD.

TheHeroReditDeserves · 2022-02-02T18:09:33+00:00

Delusions of grandeur are generally at least somewhat entertaining if looked at in the right context.

hatit516 · 2022-02-01T20:43:08+00:00

Why is a man asking women what the benefits of dating a red pill man? That’s such an odd question. That’s like me being a nazi going to the Jews and saying Jews what’s the benefit of having nazi as friends

RahLyt · 2022-02-01T16:50:59+00:00

Honestly every man is different RP or not.

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TemperateSloth · 2022-02-01T17:12:22+00:00

TRP posits itself as a descriptor of reality. There isn’t any more benefit to dating someone who is TRP than someone who is a Communist or a Utilitarian or believes in some other ideology. The difference is merely that it’s a gender-sexual ideology, rather than a political or religious or philosophical one. So there isn’t necessarily a benefit.

TRP advocates for men to make a lot of money and to look hot. That may be a benefit. But it would be too eager to assume all TRPers live up to that ideal. I’d hazard to guess that most people who turn to Internet solutions for dating aren’t particularly attractive or successful on average. I don’t really see their belief in TRP as a benefit in any way for the woman.

Perhaps if we assume the ideology is absolutely correct (big ask), then it would benefit her by giving her a good partner? This is quite a stretch though.

nedinator3000 · 2022-02-01T19:18:51+00:00

I think like most things you need a little of both. A lot of my beliefs people would think are red pilled because of how sensitive everyone is, but if they seen me with my girl they would probably think I’m blue pilled. I just extract the realities of both.

Rfupon · 2022-02-01T19:50:13+00:00

The women should be the ones answering this...

Why do they choose men who follow TRP guidelines so often? Why do you keep doing it while complaining about these very same things?

TRP doesn't care about the "why", they just do what works

Jakes1967 · 2022-02-01T21:25:29+00:00

What are the benefits to dating a red pill man?

As we aren't monolithic, it'll depend on the man you date.

It seems like if a red pilled man believes that “men age like wine and women age like milk,” it would hurt me in the future.

Why? My wife believes that women age like prunes, yet I'm still with her.

A blue pill man may tell me that I would look better with age because overtime he’ll fall more in love with me (something my blue pilled partner regularly tells me).

Almost like you're more than just looks? Oh the irony.

If a red pilled man believes that “men are polyamorous...

Who the hell believes that?

...while women are hypergamous”...

Women are hypergamous and most TRP believe that's a good thing. It's only when you add the modern entitlement of women that it becomes negative.

...and that it’s “just your turn,” that could also hurt me in the future.

How so?

Again, a blue pilled man may hold firm that loyalty is one of the defining traits and a virtue of a monogamous relationship.

Loyalty that changes at least 50% of the time in marriage?

There are other red pill slogans I can discuss, but only wanted to note a few.

Pray do tell...

myfriendsfoundme-1tm · 2022-02-01T23:19:51+00:00

That's what I think is so funny about red pill men as an ideology for getting women - it only works if you're really rich or really hot and you can attract women to you in a way besides being a good long-term partner option.

No_Regular1586 · 2022-02-02T00:37:21+00:00

Since when is not eating pussy red pill?

Connect-Taste175 · 2022-02-02T00:42:21+00:00

he isnt a pushover and u can respect him. if u want a guy who lets u push him around then go for a blue pilled man who doesnt know any better but to just take ur crap all day.

Sophiatab · 2022-02-02T01:07:06+00:00

Absolutely no feelings of guilt over cheating on them or otherwise betraying them.

neetykeeno · 2022-02-02T01:18:12+00:00

I suppose that one doesn't feel the least bit upset at eventually divorcing him.

Ian_Campbell · 2022-02-02T01:43:03+00:00

Because any man who isn't (depending on the definition of redpill, I don't mean the PUA stuff gross) is either a coward, too thoughtless to have any opinions on sociological issues, or a liar and those things have negative repercussions.

You can take the reality and create productive responses to it, obviously no woman wants to be with a guy who is in despair because he is unsuccessful. But if someone excessively tempers their beliefs based on what sounds good, their person to YOU will also involve more deception of that behavioral variety. So you may find a more polished and politically presenting and socially maneuvering blue pill partner, but that can be full of sycophants or manipulators.

tropicsGold · 2022-02-02T04:01:32+00:00

The core of RP is to become a genuinely high value male, physically fit, successful, leading an exciting life. This is what women genuinely want and desire, so I think most women would be thrilled to have a true RP man. But I am not considering a lot of the RP Reddit trolls and complainers to be real RP.

A single mom would unfortunately do really poorly with a red pill man because the dangers of dating a single mom are well known in RP, so they would avoid one. A single mom will naturally (and rightly) put her children first, to the Stepdad’s disadvantage, and golddigging is very common. But there are plenty of blue pill men who will be happy to raise someone else’s children, so that should not be a problem.

It is incorrect to say RP is against marriage, almost all of the top RP thinkers are married. But the marriage rules are very severely against men, so care must be taken and a prenup is recommended.

I personally believe that marriage is the ultimate test of your true RP strength. It is easy to screw up while dating, you get weak and lose frame, just move on to another girl. Marriage is pro level, there is little room for error, and if you screw its up, recovery can be long and difficult.

CentralAdmin · 2022-02-02T04:19:53+00:00

If I am looking at it from the perspective of a single woman, what are the advantages of dating someone red pill? I recognize that some red pillers are entirely against marriage, so please consider this question for those casually dating as well.

None. Unless he is naturally red pilled and you find that attractive, don't bother.

Red Pillers came about because women cannot find nice, stable men attractive so they emulate more exciting men who play the field and don't commit. Men don't red pill men. Women red pill them through their behaviour. If you don't want more red pill men, start fucking the nice guys and marrying them.

Additionally, the thing with red pill men is that many are not going to shout their red pill philosophies from the rooftops. They are going to try to be as hot as possible to get sex as quickly as possible, and when you realise he isn't going to commit, will move onto the next one. There's a slut born every minute, so to speak.

Red Pill was not meant for women's benefit. Women have society bending over backwards to cater sex and relationships to them. Red Pill men are placing themselves first. You are asking the wrong question if you are looking for benefits to dating a red pilled man.

CosmicBlueCloud · 2022-02-02T06:42:05+00:00

What’s the red and blue pill

StarchRunner · 2022-02-02T08:47:06+00:00

The pill man cometh.

Karmanger · 2022-02-02T09:16:38+00:00

I don’t think there are any red-pilled men that follow the “rules” 100%. The point of TRP is to fix what you lack.

All the other stuff about marriage and etc is up to the guy. So asking red-pilled men what advantage you get is a lost cause because each guy wants something different. At a minimum you get a man who is fit.

bludkraze · 2022-02-03T11:51:34+00:00

a blue pilled man may hold firm that loyalty is one of the defining traits and a virtue of a monogamous relationship.

There are loyal red pilled men too. Also BP men arent loyal to you because who you are but because of the image in their mind of what they want you to be. It may align with the truth but it may also not.

RP men will see you for what you are and be perfectly fine with it. The will openly express their boundaries and they will lead and create the best possible life (or marriage).

So i think fundamentally RP men are just more honest. If you think any BP man will stay loyal forever then try him. Youre in for a rude awakening. BP men are mostly loyal because of their lack of undertsanding of women. When they start to understand how easily women are used for sex they will more often than not just jump at the opportunity.

the-lone-squid · 2022-02-03T13:37:49+00:00

Kind of a silly question. Trp is pretty clearly for the benefit of men. Currently in society men rarely benefit long term from modern relationships. Short term perhaps, but rarely long term.

modernsins · 2022-02-04T08:24:03+00:00

You get a real man as a partner. Just because we are against marriage doesn't mean we necessarily avoid LTR if a woman is high value. You can bitch about men like us all you want but deep down you know that a man like that is someone who you'd like to be with. You are just annoyed that we have narrowed down female nature perfectly while a blue pilled man is much easier to control because he doesn't really know what you are like.

nameisahmad · 2022-02-02T10:01:15+00:00

This question is identical to, why is a feminist worth dating

ApatheticHeretic_101 · 2022-02-02T15:37:38+00:00

If you don't know what kind of man you want, how is this question going to help you? You sound like someone shopping for an appliance...and expect men to convince you to choose their brand. Objectification swings both ways.

Hint: Red Pill Men won't even answer you. Your question itself is the reason why they won't date you. They don't NEED to sell themselves to you. They know their value and have no incentive or desire to waste their time.

Good luck.

Confident_Spinach967 · 2022-02-01T18:54:02+00:00

It seems you’ve already made up your decision in the description and Just want confirmation that your viewpoint is correct.

As for the question probably less soy and whatever isn’t the negative stereotype of a blue pill man is, since were using stereotypes and not actual ideas.

Might just try asking somebody you’re dating with their values are and continue asking questions instead of theorizing online.

Gerpstarg · 2022-02-01T18:54:11+00:00

So basically your biggest issue is that a red pill man will say you the bitter truth instead of the sweet lies.

totally___bear · 2022-02-01T21:33:23+00:00

HEALTHIER

DLtheGreat808 · 2022-02-01T22:22:24+00:00

I’ve never met a red-pill man in my life

LowCreddit · 2022-02-01T23:34:10+00:00

You want a RP man who knows and accepts the price of marriage. They can keep the relationship going in the long term when a BP man would be crying in the bathroom after seeing the look in your face when he presents your sex life spreadsheet. Good luck finding one.

Teflon08191 · 2022-02-02T09:29:20+00:00

She gets to fuck a man she perceives to be "alpha".

Other than that...probably not much. But then RP, being the strategy for men to employ in the zero-sum game going on between the sexes, isn't meant to benefit women anyway.

Jakes1967 · 2022-02-02T09:31:22+00:00

What are the benefits to dating a red pill man?

PPD seems to believe that the average Red Piller is a cross between RooshV, Genghis Khan and a modesty enforcer.

The truth is that most Red Pill guys are more like YouTuber Alexander Grace.

Snoo84176 · 2022-02-02T14:22:32+00:00

There aren't necessarily extra benefits to choosing RP vs non-RP from the general dating pool. It's that you'd probably rather date the post-RP version of a particular man rather than the pre-RP version (if he ever discovers and finds the need for RP at all). Of course this assumes that you have to actively swallow the pill at some point to be pilled rather than being that way organically.

Iluvalmonds83 · 2022-02-02T16:03:49+00:00

trying to define the profile of a red pill man is challenging. IMO, An ideal red pill man is an alpha, master of his universe, he has a (or several) mission(s) he’s actively set out to achieve. Focused, has leadership qualities, rational, has a persona that garners respect from his peers, and decisively moves in a way that provides the best outcome for what he wants out of life. Whether his goals are harmful to others or are based on his integrity and morals(or lack thereof), make defining whether dating someone like this is “good” or not difficult.

Red pill is just the description of the real (and sometimes unflattering) reality of mens and womens sexual/mating strategy. What the individual decides to do with that information is up to them. There are plenty of red pill guys who have great partner value, there are also many who are not. Whether someone is dating material or not is not directly indicative of their belief in red pill.

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