Do women you’re not attracted to you mean anything to you at all? Do you look up to or admire any women?

uccelloverde · 2022-06-07T17:44:01+00:00

There are plenty of women I’m not attracted to that I respect and admire. When I was in grad school, I did an internship at a national lab, and one of my advisers there was a much older woman who is a very accomplished computer scientist- she definitely has my admiration.

welcometothejl · 2022-06-07T17:57:35+00:00

I have a feamle friend who I go to for real opinions, as well as male friends. My biggest stock holding is in a company whose CEO is a woman. I think she is doing a phenomenal job. Currently I am in charge planning a class reunion. Everyone besides me who has volunteered is a woman.

Vtridolla · 2022-06-07T17:09:49+00:00

Lmaooooo what? Yeah, women are actually very capable to do other things than be attractive. Scientists, doctors, philosophers, chefs, politician, veterans, artists, etc.

Shouts outs to all the humans.

hari_hbp · 2022-06-07T18:28:38+00:00

I'm not at all attracted to my bestfriend. She is absolutely gorgeous and I can't imagine a world without her in my life. She is very career-oriented and I admire her for that.

Another friend of mine, I'm attracted to her. She is super intelligent and beautiful too. She's also very career oriented and after losing her father, she worked really hard. She's now a research scientist in the US (we're indian) and she'll never know how much respect and admiration I've for her.

There's lots of women I'm not attracted to who mean the world to me. I'm a wrestling fan and I very much look up to a couple of women wrestlers (just as much as men wrestlers).

Admiration and Respect are gender neutral. And like some comments said, women are more than just attractive people.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2022-06-07T17:30:07+00:00

Uhhh, I admire my mom and Aunts. Plus lots of other women I don’t want to fuck. What kind of question is this?

Sad_Top1743 · 2022-06-07T18:06:26+00:00

I’ve had bosses, co workers, teachers, aunts, friends etc that I’d admired a lot.

My old boss was an excellent leader, my coworker was super bright, my cousin is an amazing athlete that I’ve admired since I was like 5 and she’s a wonderful mom now.

Not attracted to any of them

Comfortable-Unit-897 · 2022-06-07T17:11:38+00:00

Good people mean a lot to me. Attraction has nothing to do with it. Admiration is earned! I know some smoking hot ladies, that I wouldnt give the time of day.

343_peaches_and_tea · 2022-06-07T19:19:06+00:00

Of course.

My grandmother and mother. In some ways but not in others.

I miss my old product manager. She left recently.

I have many other work colleagues who I think are great. The smartest member of my team is female.

Maybe an unpopular opinion but I even admire some women whose views I don't agree with e.g. Julie Bindel and JK Rowling.

It takes a lot of nerve to stand up to stand up against public opinion. I have respect for that.

In terms of internet personalities. Contrapoints is pretty awesome. Hafu is incredibly good at gaming.

For conservatives I have a respect for Thatcher even though I don't like what she did. Amber Rudd always seemed quite competent too.

Obviously love Queenie but you said "not attracted to" so mayb she doesn't count...

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There are several women on PPD who I respect the views of.

Obviously ❤️ for u/Mrs_drgree. Respect for modding the sub.

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We good?

geometersbane · 2022-06-07T17:18:53+00:00

I'd simp for any chick who can soundly beat me in MK.

just_a_place · 2022-06-07T20:23:12+00:00

This may sound as dorky as porky pig but the first woman I ever actually admired and looked up to was my crazy aunt. She was who started teaching me a bunch of life lessons besides my mom. She was the one who taught me to keep my shoes clean, my pants ironed and pressed, how to iron my shirts, how to properly clean my room and make the bed. She taught me how to cook. She was also the first one to buy me pomade so I could start playing with my hair. She is pretty intelligent and very independent. She always made me feel useful around her and taught me how to be useful to women and how not to let women abuse my usefulness and to assert myself if they try to pull that crap on me. In her words "If it's all give and no take then you walk away." She was like a 2nd mom but without my mom's authority lol That's why she was cool aunt.

Your question about women whom I am not attracted to is kinda weird to me because honestly it's really hard not to be attracted to every woman I meet and befriend nowadays. 😉

But if you mean those not so attractive women I talk to casually and who are friends of friends well all I can say is that they are no less meaningful than all the dudes in the background in my life. If I am friends with a woman it's because I like her. I don't make friends with people who irritate me or with people I hate. That doesn't mean I only make friends with attractive women though. Don't get me wrong. It's just that unless she is one of those plump sassy and super friendly women who are easy to make friends with they usually do not approach me and I myself more often approach women that I am attracted to even if it's just to be friends.

sernamedeleted · 2022-06-07T20:26:00+00:00

Yes. I have 2 spiritual mothers at church who I look up to. My adoption lawyer is one of my best friends. A recovering alcoholic social worker who was disabled in a car accident and I talk about all sorts of stuff regularly. I swap parenting stories and tips with a teacher. I talk about rock climbing and baking with a young lady who sometimes baby-sits for me. My dental hygienist is a delightful aquaintence. That's just the ones that immediately come to mind.

Having non-romantic relationships with women is a regular part of a man's life if he's not a sex obsessed entitled mysoginist.

AreOut · 2022-06-07T22:09:10+00:00

yeah but I don't admire them as women, I admire them as people

WOPR-1983 · 2022-06-07T17:28:59+00:00

I might be a good candidate to answer this because I'm kind of an asexual and don't date women.

There are a number of women I respect and admire.

My doctor is a woman. My ex wife is a pretty damned good mom and successful business owner. I have a female friend who is a (paid) support person for my side-business. She's a very dependable person and good for a laugh too. The best dentist I ever had is a woman. I won't let anyone else go near my mouth.

Men don't see women in terms of "potential sex partner or nonperson". Perhaps women think this way when men who they reject sexually just go away.

Ironically, women want men to go away, but not go away. It's strange.

cruciod · 2022-06-07T17:31:01+00:00

Gillian Flynn is that Bitch!

Infammo · 2022-06-07T17:15:51+00:00

I don't really admire anyone. There's several women whose competence or morals I positively appraise.

hornyjailer1 · 2022-06-07T17:12:15+00:00

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Aramuis · 2022-06-07T18:17:16+00:00

Of course. I admire a lot of my close women friends. Their strength and character amazes me and I'm not attracted to them at all.

I admire RBG a ton. I used to admire J.K Rowling before she discovered twitter lol.

I admired a lot of my teachers in high-school.

One of my friend's mom is a total badasses too. I've literally ignored hot girls/cancelled dates and talked to her instead because she's basically everything I'd want to be as a person.

NockerJoe · 2022-06-07T17:57:53+00:00

I don't look up to or admire anyone. Part of being an adult, I believe, is realizing that every other adult is just another person doing their thing. Admiration is a thing I associate with kids who have no real grounds to relate to someone further along developmentally who does the right thing.

Do I respect some women? Sure. But that's different.

2022-06-07T18:23:25+00:00

I deeply admire and love many women I'm not attracted to

Catherine772023 · 2022-06-07T18:32:14+00:00

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smegma_enthusiast · 2022-06-07T18:52:37+00:00

Yes

And Yes

There are many women I admire in my life. Mostly because they are smart, work hard and have great empathy.

My coworker, my sister, some friends, some of my best friends mothers, some teachers. Great people are admirable.

I'm amazed this is even a question, but I will probably be more amazed when I read some dudes responses

KFC_Fleshlight · 2022-06-07T19:01:12+00:00

i listen to a lot of podcasts by women and cannot deny some of the funniest tv shows were written by women too.

cloudydays84 · 2022-06-07T19:03:53+00:00

Yeah, my mom, sisters, aunts, female cousins and friends mean a lot to me.

There are definitely women I look up to, for example back when I had the wide eye dreams of being a writer, Maya Angelou and Toni Morrison, were big inspirations for me.

On a more personal level there are a bunch of women like teachers/instructors, friends, classmates, upperclassmen, that I also really admire.

geht2dachoppa · 2022-06-07T19:12:58+00:00

I admire lots of people. Every gender, race, orientation, religion and so on. Life is hard. Anyone who can find ways to better society, be happy, or just make it often.

We have to be kind towards eachother and understand eachother. That's what life's about.

SmakeTalk · 2022-06-07T19:17:14+00:00

100%. I have a very good amount of female friends I'm close with, some are role models/mentors, most are just friends I've met through others or work, some are people I've mentored and helped along the way. One of my exes had actually become a good friend for a while before they moved away. None of it to me has to do with if they're attractive or not, or if I'm specifically attracted to them.

Through the years I've also learned there's a difference between attraction and just knowing/acknowledging that someone is attractive. I have a lot of women in my life that are attractive who I have no real interest in, and I have many others as well who I don't think are attractive at all.

Discovering that helped me form genuine and lasting bonds with both the attractive and non-attractive (to me) women in my life. Invaluable growth for me.

itm4l2000 · 2022-06-07T22:34:32+00:00

Cathie Wood.

But that's through years of commitment and wisdom over decades in the professional investment community.

She speaks a nuanced language about investments that would go over the head of many people including men.

But people in her field know she is the real deal.

AttachableSheep · 2022-06-07T23:35:39+00:00

I've been through times when I had only female friends, and I wasn't attracted to any of them. Going through a phase like that now. I share my day with them, my fears and insecurities, my plans, all those things. So of course they mean something to me; they are very important to me actually.

And of course I admire some women. I admire certain qualities in all people. I admire having a plan, being dedicated to it and seeing it through to the end. I know many women who go through hardships to get a result, and I admire that a lot for example, since many people today don't have the discipline it takes to do that. I've been inspired by women countless times, and bested by women a lot, so obviously I respect and admire women that earned my respect and admiration.

Crushed_95 · 2022-06-07T23:37:37+00:00

My doctor is a white women who took over for a black man doctor I originally picked from the medical group 6 years ago and man she is a god send. Totally change my opinion of that I need a black doctor that knows me. I just wish her and her husband will stop screwing so much or use protection or get fixed! In the 5 years she has been my doctor she has had 3 kids! I also cant remember seeing her not preggo!

ChibsFilipTelfordd · 2022-06-08T00:07:55+00:00

Sure. My engineer that works below me at my company is a 50 year ish old woman and she's one of the most competent people I've ever met, I respect her a ton, and she even has a good production mindset unlike most design engineers

She's just one example. I'm not attracted to most (80%?) Of my female friends, and i would do anything for them

SkookumTree · 2022-06-08T01:56:41+00:00

Yes? One of my closest friends is a woman; while she's tall and pretty, neither of us were ever attracted to the other.

Estimation_Station87 · 2022-06-08T02:07:49+00:00

I do. Some of my closest friends are women. I admire them for who they are and what they’ve taught me.

Terrible_Traffic5574 · 2022-06-08T02:42:51+00:00

Absolutely not

skon7 · 2022-06-08T13:55:47+00:00

This was a valid question OP raised because it’s extremely common among a lot of men to act or be this way.

If I look really good one day some men…. it’s like they only like me for that and give me attention based on what I look life regardless of how I behave or what I say. Not that I say anything stupid or behave a certain way but some men don’t even know if I’m cool or smart they just go off the looks. And if I am both those things they don’t value them, just the body or face. But if I look bad they might completely not give a shit what I have to say etc. or overlook me entirely, even if I have something important to say.

And I’ve seen men disrespect and not show basic human dignity to women they find unattractive. In the most disgusting way like women are second class citizens. So yeah, this question wasn’t far fetched at all. That’s great they love their mother and grandma, but if it’s any other women they deem useless sexually or romantically, some can be terribly rude.

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HighValueBro · 2022-06-07T19:23:56+00:00

Every single women veteran. Every women who goes against the grain and is in a “man’s” industry (and you know what they get stuck dealing with). Any women hustling to do it themselves, even more so on the internet where the rabid toxic humans dwell to berate them from the shadows with personal attacks (like twitch for example). Just a few examples.

Easy question.

gladusgates · 2022-06-07T17:19:50+00:00

I don't look up to or admire women for the fact that they are women. I admire women if they are deserving of my admiration and that needs to be earned.

wtknight · 2022-06-07T17:53:34+00:00

I admire my wife and a few female family members. I can’t say that I’ve ever admired any other women, though. But I’m friendly with women whom I’m not attracted to and I respect them.

The only men whom I’ve really admired were a few athletes, though, since I have very athletic skill myself and I enjoy watching sports. So it’s not like I admire many men but no women.

melody_of_ · 2022-06-07T18:09:13+00:00

Yes almost all of my friends are women and the ones that arent are usually FTM's.

I definitely admire a good portion of my friends. Some have issues. What is upsetting is that despite being good friends. When they open up to me about their relationship stuff. Their is like heavy hypergamy vibes in some stuff they say even if you try to take it charitably. I've noticed patterns and changes as they get older. And how insanely gynocentric women and men are. Its one of the things that pushed me to seek out this sub.

NinjaOfTheSouth · 2022-06-07T17:11:53+00:00

Their acquaintances if we’re not attracted to them, that’s usually all there is to it. Not really I see women as the opposite gender of men. I as a man, have no reason to look up or admire women. (Mainly because I’m not a women myself). We as men typically look up to other strong men.

HTML_Novice · 2022-06-07T17:32:33+00:00

When I admire someone I typically want to be them or be like them. I don’t really want to be a woman or be like a woman.

There are traits I admire, but women don’t typically possess or express these traits, and if they do, they’re undercut by #girlboss or bad bitch or slay queen or something like that.

A man possessing traits I admire can be undercut too, but usually it’s undercut differently than when women do it

smallstarseeker · 2022-06-07T17:44:23+00:00

I do admire and respect some women while having 0 sexual interest for them.

However this is a minority of women which have awesome personalities and/or are accomplished.

midwesternMD · 2022-06-07T18:31:42+00:00

Wtf kind of question is this?

This sub isn’t about being apathetic to women or hating them. It’s about discussing modern dating dynamics.

I work with plenty of women I’m not attracted to. They’re critical members of my team/practice. And there are several things I admire about each of them. I have a few female colleagues who trained me who I look up to as well. I think most people on here could say the same about either sex.

What the men on this sub tend to agree on is that when we’re thinking about women we’d like to date/marry/etc, accomplishments and career trajectory aren’t highly valued. From my standpoint, I spent my childhood being told that I should study hard, find a good career, and settle down. And a lot of dating advice tells men to get fit, have a stable career, and dress well. I’ve done that. My income can support a family. So professional success/accolades don’t really make a given woman a better fit for me. Sure, with a dual income family, I could retire a bit earlier. But I like my job. And as it stands, I make enough and don’t spend so much that I maintain a pretty healthy savings rate.

In that respect, one could say that for dating, “if I’m not attracted to her, she’s worthless to me” and be basically correct. But that doesn’t mean that I hate women. Far from it.

Hell, most of the men on here are on here to vent about how their attraction for specific types of women goes unrequited.

SmarmyPapsmears · 2022-06-07T17:10:28+00:00

Nope, they are NPCs to me. Any woman under an 8.

Ludens0 · 2022-06-07T20:12:03+00:00

Why the wouldn't?

If you think women are living vaginas you have had so little time with women or have 16 yo.

RobinRaventooth · 2022-06-07T23:09:49+00:00

Yes. Not anymore.

hightailed · 2022-06-07T18:11:19+00:00

My mom, and like Harriet Tubman. No modern day woman that I can think of

-passepar2t- · 2022-06-07T18:39:11+00:00

I don't trust this question. It feels like a "gotcha" or a "no-you-don't" lurks waiting, barely concealed by the bushes.

dietwindows · 2022-06-07T21:09:56+00:00

I'm not sure I admire anyone. If I do, it's an insanely high bar. Ralph Nader, Chomsky, Jesus Christ.

Can't think of any women. They usually dont do the types of things I might admire. They're too self absorbed.

Typo_of_the_Dad · 2022-06-07T21:17:27+00:00

Nope. Your fears are confirmed, cancel us all

Mouse1701 · 2022-06-08T01:44:05+00:00

This will get down votes but women don't admire or look up to any men unless it's her father whom she respects. Women don't look up to men or admire them unless they are sexual attractive to them. Something in the brain of women makes them not like a man no matter how much status ,wealth or even muscles a man has if they are not sexually attracted to the man. Here's the hard difficult thing to learn men you can not make a person attracted to you. There are things a man can do to put themselves in a better position such as improving one's self. To the woman that asked about men looking up to women and admire them not as important as you think. Just work on yourself if you have to do the physical things to improve your looks. I don't know how u look just make yourself look like at best the top 10 celebrities or models and u will attract men. Men don't really care if u make a lot of money or if u wrote that novel or that u can fly an airplane.

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GolcondaOni · 2022-06-07T19:08:12+00:00

I don’t pay attention to them so I can’t say I respect or admire them. They usually get a few milliseconds of attention by coincidence

2022-06-07T19:09:09+00:00

Sure.

The example that springs to my mind would be Hatun Tash, she's a Christian woman who proselytizes to Muslims at speakers corner in London. There have been multiple attempts on her life and she says she fully expects to be killed. I won't link to it but it should be pretty easy to find the video of her being stabbed in the face over sharing the Gospel, she passes out then gets right back up and goes back at it. She shames me with her courage.

Aquix · 2022-06-07T20:14:31+00:00

Mostly not, but there are a handful that have traits and skills that I find impressive. Coincidentally (or not), many of those traits are what I'd consider masculine, so it probably adds to why I don't find them attractive.

2022-06-07T21:33:18+00:00

If they are my friends then they mean something, otherwise they’re just acquaintances or strangers, like any men I know.

Do I look up to any women? No, I can only think of one man I look up to anyway. Unless you want to count celebrities/influencers, then I could say I look up to a bunch of male and female lifters.

I can think of a few very smart women I know from college, but I wouldn’t say I look up to them because I don’t think they are as well rounded as I strive to be

CocoBabeNYC · 2022-06-07T21:52:49+00:00

In my world women I'm not attracted to barely register on my radar unless they are my mom.

prettymuchredpilled · 2022-06-07T22:18:36+00:00

There are many women in history that I respect and admire. Rosa Parks, Joan of Arc, Harriet Tubman, Ada Lovelace, Marie Curie, and probably a few others.

But honestly, I can't name any currently living examples. Women in our current society tend to opt for beauty and charm at the expense of actual talent and courage. Therefore, if I'm interested in a woman it's usually because she's beautiful and/or charming.

Electrical_Coat_8714 · 2022-06-07T22:31:25+00:00

Obviously family.

My friends' moms are all pretty sweet and like me. I would help them with anything if they asked.

A couple of random people at my complex, one of them lets me use her room to get away from my roommate when we need a break. So I let her use my microwave and nuwave and stuff.

As far as respect goes the only people I respect are my early mother, and the aunt who raised me when she died. I know it's so edgy, but I don't really look up to other humans, they get a pass because they raised me and my sister both alone, the rest of y'all are mostly worthless, and maybe 3% of people are actually cool.

eddieJr_com · 2022-06-08T01:37:12+00:00

I mean, ive fucked some girls who wouldnt qualify for a maxim magazine cover.

And i looked up to a woman while eating her pussy.

hashtag womenMatter

HighValueMoidxD · 2022-06-07T21:38:36+00:00

Sigmund Freud correctly explained that men are fundamentally unable to respect women since they are castrated. How could I ever consider a castrated being equal to me?

AestheticSaiyan · 2022-06-07T19:29:38+00:00

There are lots of women I admire for their hard work and their intelligence, but there is not a single women I admire for her morals or character.

Sure there are a lot of female scientists but men have always been the greatest in almost everything that requires passion, virtue, bravery, strength of character.

The most beautiful singers were young choir boys. The most daring generals like Hannibal or Alexander were males. The greatest artists were all males and so were the greatest musicians. Not to mention explorers, religious founders, chefs, and countless more.

The world is an amazing place because of men.

FenaPugi · 2022-06-07T20:10:51+00:00

Apart from family? Not really

It'd be nice to admire other women but there's seldom any opportunities to do so irl and online (sometimes online though, anonymity helps).

tommysamson · 2022-06-07T21:56:40+00:00

nah, just like how broke homeless men mean nothing to most women

Jukingku22 · 2022-06-07T22:20:11+00:00

Yes but my list is mostly men

nodegreenoknowledge · 2022-06-07T23:06:28+00:00

Every man, *every* man, has a mother, wife, or woman that drives him in life. You can look at all the great men, dictators, and normal guys: every man has a woman that drives him.

That's my philosophical answer, my actual answer is:

Yes, of course, my grandmother, female thinkers, and especially writers.

I think women don't understand that most men don't hate women or something. We have normal female role models too, or females we admire.

I think young women don't have real role models. I, feel like feminism has just abandoned the last 2k years of female writers and thinkers. (The Muslims have a lot of female Imams (or thinkers/philosophers in history; many Christian Female writers and more). But when I look now, Kim Kardashian and Tik tok stars are what young girls seem to want to be. **Now, that's not only a "female" problem, we were just speaking on female role models; young men have the same problem of admiring the wrong people.**

JameisBong · 2022-06-08T01:50:30+00:00

Not anymore no. I judge women more harshly since i found the red pill.

Perseus_the_Bold · 2022-06-07T17:57:18+00:00

Do women you’re not attracted to you mean anything to you at all?

No.

Do you look up to or admire any women?

No.

fishmonger7 · 2022-06-07T22:33:20+00:00

Not really because as a men I value qualities that successful men strive and women hardly embody selflessness, determination, resourcefulness, and leadership. I’m not just taking about some guy who’s your manager. When someone is genuine and posses these qualities, you’ll know. Women just don’t have these and neither can they naturally possess them. As a man I can never look up to a woman because it’s not the same thing. The only people who come close to the above have been my mother, sister, and a friend of mine from high school that I still keep in touch with. And for all those people who want to hate on me, the above mention qualities aren’t abundant in men either, it’s usually such a small group of people that are worthy of looking up to. 99.5% of dudes out there are just regular people who you’d not look up to but still respect as a human, same with women.

Karmanger · 2022-06-07T18:20:36+00:00

Definition of admire

transitive verb

1: to feel respect and approval for (someone or something) :

respect verb

transitive verb

1a: to consider worthy of high regard : ESTEEM

I have basic respect for everyone, who is not hostile towards me. If someone is aggressive towards me I lose respect for them because it's normally an unprovoked attack.

That being said.... Women I'm not attracted to, are just people....I treat them like I do a man.. I'm not sure what you mean... you phrase the question as if every women I meet has to be special to me...

Like....I don't have to respect and admire the homeless women throwing feces at me because she's having a breakdown...

As far as any women I admire, no not really. All the woman that I'm aware of that are famous are either politicians (which I don't care to be) Singers (which I don't care to be) Fashion designers (which I don't care to be), reality stars (which I don't care to be), instagram influencers (which I don't care to be), Models (Which I don't care to be).

I also can say I admired Kevin Samuels debate ability, but he's the only person I admired. and I discovered him in my 30's....and now that he's dead. I'm back to admiring no one.

If they are doing good for the world then I respect that.... but that's non-gendered respect... That's respect because they are good people not because of gender.

Edit #1: Downvoting means you think women are subhuman fyi.

Catherine772023 · 2022-06-07T17:36:45+00:00

this is more than one question.

do women i'm not attracted mean anything to me....from a sexual standpoint NO, from a romantic standpoint NO. But just like some men, some women make good doctors for example and therefore those mean something, in that society benefits from them.
Do i look up to or admire any women (excluding family members)...not really given that typically what I admire in men is not something I really look at in women, and we live very different lives. So looking up to/admiring a woman would not be a great model for my life. Can I still recognize and acknowledge someone's knowledge or hardships, yes.

jackedsoon · 2022-06-07T17:58:49+00:00

yeah i got a lot of gay female friends that mean a lot to me and im not attracted to.

idk any woman i look up to tbh apart from family relatives. i suppose men as well, i dont have any1 i actively want to try and be.

iamprosciutto · 2022-06-07T18:14:08+00:00

Of course I do! Boudicca and Rosalind Franklin are two of my favorite historical women. Rosa Parks was also a fucking badass

Hoopy223 · 2022-06-07T18:15:30+00:00

If a guy isn’t attracted to her then he’ll treat her the same as everyone else I guess. A polite friendly guy will be polite/friendly, an asshole will be an asshole.

All the historical/famous women I admire are dead lol.

2022-06-07T18:37:36+00:00

Considering that they are human beings, yes.

2022-06-07T18:39:31+00:00

I admire lots of women who I’m not sexually attracted to. My boss is a good team leader and makes a ton of money, I want to be like her when I grow up. However her womanhood isn’t part of my admiration if that makes sense, it’s more her skill set. If she was a brain in a vat I would admire her.

On the other hand, there are lots of women I am sexually attracted to that I don’t admire at all, if they weren’t attractive I would have no interest in them.

There are also women who I am both attracted to and admire. I dated a girl who was hot and also a genius PhD engineer who had done a lot of cool shit in her life. This group is of course rare.

Final group are women I am not attracted to who are also not impressive, that’s most women. I can be friends with you but I probably won’t seek out the friendship.

2022-06-07T18:55:48+00:00

Yes, obviously. I love and admire lots of women, both in my personal life and with regards to famous women.

I will admit that I have a bias towards attractive women though. Or maybe it feels that way because admiring someone can also make them more attractive.

wtffellification · 2022-06-07T19:11:45+00:00

Yes, even some older ladies I cross on a street (and a lot of them seem to like me for some reason) I find them interesting the first second I see them.

Not sexually attracted to them, but yeah, even among grannies, I guess, I find "potentially my type would-be" and "not".

So yeah I guess people do mean something to me, even when they're old and disgusting, decaying.

PMmeareasontolive · 2022-06-07T19:20:04+00:00

This is a very nihilistic take on men.

Some women I wish I was attracted to because they seem really nice but I'm not.

TemporalCash531 · 2022-06-07T19:39:02+00:00

They most definitely do mean a lot, please don’t believe the lie that a woman to a man can only a piece of meat.

2022-06-07T19:41:20+00:00

Of course.

boomershack · 2022-06-07T19:41:37+00:00

I admire my neighbour. Her garden is a dreamworld and I get to pop by to help her out anytime. She looks like a toad and is at least 40+ (never asked).

A Green thumb Sensei. She is dope as hell.

Basketballjuice · 2022-06-07T19:53:01+00:00

absolutely.

TrapsArentGayBro · 2022-06-07T19:58:24+00:00

To the first question, depends. For a relationship? No lol. In general? Sure.

To the second question, I can think of no woman in particular I admire. I barely even admire men.

PlayfulLawyer · 2022-06-07T20:00:18+00:00

Yep in both, I'm always going to call out the projection that women say when they say "men don't respect women that they're not attracted to"

CautionaryWarning · 2022-06-07T20:09:11+00:00

I admire some women, but that number is prett low due to the things I'm interested in being male-dominated.

tossa445 · 2022-06-07T20:11:44+00:00

Q4W: Are your expectations of us really this low?

LotBuilder · 2022-06-07T20:18:06+00:00

Yes, plenty of them

roguish_rogue · 2022-06-07T20:24:49+00:00

The two things are entirely separate for me. Some women I admire I want to fuck, others not. Some women I dont really respect much I want to fuck, others not.

Mrs_Drgree · 2022-06-07T20:27:18+00:00

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koolex · 2022-06-07T20:39:51+00:00

Lol of course, we have mothers and aunts etc. at the minimum. But yeah if a woman isn't attractive then I just put her in the friendzone and it's good to have more friends.

trail22 · 2022-06-07T20:52:58+00:00

Of course. I have a friend who had a kid and never took a penny of child support while working 2 jobs and earning a masters degree. Now she does iron man triathlons in her free time.

pop442 · 2022-06-07T21:02:31+00:00

I have tons of female friends and I'm even still friends with some exes of mines so yes.

jobbo321 · 2022-06-07T21:03:23+00:00

I found out that I admire, in general, famous women much less than famous men. I'm assuming "admire" here means something like I'd often look them up on instagram, Youtube, television and other media channels to know what they're up to or hearing their opinions on subjects.

If I look at the channels I watch on Youtube, it's all men. Same goes for accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter. Not doing this on purpose at all, just seems that most people I resonate with are men. I'm genuinely open to watching women, I just apparently don't care about any women media personalities. Never consciously thought about that honestly. Maybe it's because there are less women media creators in general?

I wonder if women do the same. Do you mostly watch female creators? Or is there a decent enough of men in there as well?

buntyisbest · 2022-06-07T21:11:16+00:00

I have plenty of female friends that I care about, love (not in a romantic way) and respect. I went to school with a lot of them, so that's where that bond developed. We hang out, have drinks, make jokes, talk about our lives and support each other when needed. One of my friends whom I have a deep-rooted respect for is someone who lost her parents at an early age, lost her older brother when she was in HS and her boyfriend cheated on her, while they were getting ready to get engaged. Yet, despite all those setbacks, she hung on, persevered, got the best grades in college, found a decent-paying job as an accountant at a multinational bank and as of last year married a guy she fell in love with at work. I'm proud of her for overcoming the hurdles she faced in her life and proving what a strong, powerful woman truly looks like!

Asatmaya · 2022-06-07T21:17:07+00:00

Do women you’re not attracted to you mean anything to you at all?

Attractiveness has nothing to do with it; just because I find a woman attractive does not mean that I respect or admire her in any way, and women of character and achievement have my admiration regardless of their appearance.

2022-06-07T22:35:13+00:00

I love my momma and some of my friends

Devourer_of_felines · 2022-06-08T00:00:47+00:00

Certainly - Stefi Cohen as a lifter, quite a few developers I’ve worked with, and plenty of women in college far smarter and with far better work ethics than me

HushPuppy1993 · 2022-06-08T00:10:08+00:00

Eh, sometimes, depends on the person and how we got to know each other….

2022-06-08T00:19:15+00:00

There are women in a sport's group I belong to. I'd smash most of them given the chance.

OldSimpsonsisbetter · 2022-06-08T00:25:19+00:00

I respect a woman who has achieved a lot through something other than her looks. Too many women are in the positions they are in because of their looks or gender. Sad but true.

As far as attraction goes, I view them as another man and a non-sexual entity. But a woman would need to look quite hideous for me to have zero attraction to her.

GeneralAwesome1996 · 2022-06-08T00:32:43+00:00

Yes because I’m not a fucking creep and actually view women as people

tonyghow · 2022-06-08T00:36:43+00:00

Your question makes it seem like "look up to" and "admire" should equal attraction?

This smells similar to another post where men should be expected to continue being friends with a woman if they're not attracted to the woman.

Regardless, my answer is "yes, of course". There are women in my life who are accomplished, intelligent, realistic, caring, nurturing, talented, empathetic, and more. I admire them and don't want to have sex with them.

SmilesRHere · 2022-06-08T00:38:13+00:00

I don’t look up to or admire anyone, I do have friends and family that mean sometimes a lot sometimes less, their gender has nothing to do with it.

In other words, my brain is in by head not hanging between my legs.

Ruin369 · 2022-06-08T00:51:03+00:00

Of course, its possible to have female friends. Not exactly sure what the first part of the title is saying?

I look up to and admire intelligence

Makaveli676 · 2022-06-08T01:15:00+00:00

If by admiration you mean;

to have warm approval of someone, my answer is yes. I admire, modest, feminine & sexually innocent women.

If you mean;

to desire to possess a certain quality of someone, my answer is no, not towards women I’m attracted to nor not attracted to.

Spiritual_Age_4992 · 2022-06-08T01:27:39+00:00

The most glamourous, charming & go getting person I have ever met is a woman.

Now yes, she it's hot & nearly every guy I know is into her.

But she isn't conventionally pretty so I was never quite attracted to her.

But you cannot disagree if that she looked like an old crone, she wouldn't quote have the same effect on people.

It's the same for guys.

Attractivenes wins you points.

....

There's also plenty of female friends I'm not really attracted to but if we were stuck on a deserted island, I wouldn't mind.

hsvgamer199 · 2022-06-08T02:15:50+00:00

Attraction has nothing to do with respect. There are definitely women that i respect, regardless of their looks. Ironically though I have trouble being platonic friends with women. It just never happens. I feel like a fish trying to hang out with a bird. We just don't have much in common.

hdksndiisn · 2022-06-08T02:20:28+00:00

Yes. A woman who is my friend that I am not attracted to is the same as a man that is my friend that I am not attracted to.

resultsmatter1 · 2022-06-08T02:31:43+00:00

Yes - they’re called friends.

Rouan1234 · 2022-06-08T02:49:40+00:00

Yeah, mother, aunties, actually there are a lot of woman who shows a great deal of love and persistence in a cold and harsh world. For me is quite the oposite, i can more easily admire a woman when i'm not attracted. When a hot chick does something amazing i can admire too but my mind is clouded by the fact that she is attractive and keeps foccusing in that detail.

Maquiaveh · 2022-06-08T02:58:43+00:00

What kind of question is this? Most men are not mysoginist, of course there are women we respect/admire, scientificaly even women/men with different ideologies.

Just because we dont admire most women or even not 1/10 does not mean we hate women, men rarely admire anyone, women or men. When proficiency, mastery, wisdom, etc is displayed curious people try not to be biased and not to care about gender, race, age, etc but won't get a pass either

social_mule · 2022-06-08T03:04:29+00:00

Yes. I've had women commanders in the army, women professors in college and I currently have women colleagues (albeit very few...I'm in a male dominated field) in my professional life. I don't think I've been attracted to a single one of them but I respected the ones deserving of respect.

Five_Decades · 2022-06-08T03:12:45+00:00

Some of the nicest friends I've made at various jobs have been older women I wasn't attracted to.

FrostieTheSnowman · 2022-06-08T03:40:55+00:00

I understand why the question is being asked, as there are plenty of shit men out there, but ngl it kinda feels insulting.

To answer your question... Obviously. I admire my late grandma, my mom, my sisters, my boss, and hell, most of my coworkers. I don't know what kind of jackass limits their admiration to one gender, but they sure ain't my kind of jackass.

AidsVictim · 2022-06-08T04:11:21+00:00

Sure. There are women (related to or just friends with) who I admire and appreciate for their choices in life, artistic skills, accomplishments or whatever. I've never treated women with disrespect simply because I'm not attracted to them.

I don't really have any women I "look up" to per se, nor men for that matter. But frankly it's much easier to think of men I respect because they're much more involved and represented in areas of life I have interests in. Having seen the politics and behavior of women in positions of power has generally made me less likely to support them in that capacity.

Fiddle_And_Foxx · 2022-06-08T04:39:48+00:00

What on earth?

Of course, they do.

My sister, my mom, my best friend, my professors, my colleagues, etc.

People of any gender don't get their value from whether or not I am attracted to them. Anyone who thinks like that needs to go sit in a corner until they can learn to function like a human being instead of a penis with legs.

Gh0st1y · 2022-06-08T04:53:51+00:00

Yeah, a handful of my past professors, some comedians, some scientists and science communicators, some youtubers who make insightful content... all these women i respect and admire platonically.

HazyMemory7 · 2022-06-08T04:54:07+00:00

I have two very close platonic female friends who I cherish and consider to be very dear to me. I definitely admire my mom, if that counts lol. I admire women that are fierce and confident like Camille Vasquez.

I generally tend to avoid platonic girl friendships in general because most people don't have the maturity for them and often turns into you being a pseudo-boyfriend, but I'm not opposed to them.

TheX141710 · 2022-06-08T04:59:51+00:00

100 percent for both.

lolman453 · 2022-06-08T05:23:03+00:00

Grandmother and obviously any accomplished woman

Nihi1986 · 2022-06-08T05:37:02+00:00

Yes, of course, they can be amazing friends and can be people you admire.

Some of the non attractive women I met when I was volunteering, and some at work, they were such hard working, good proffesionals and/or great persons...

In sports there are many too, not every woman playing tenis or soccer looks attractive to me but some are really good, disciplined and seem to be nice people.

Then we got the writers of some of my favourite books! They weren't attractive to me but I'm grateful they wrote those books. Artists like musicians, also some of the best teachers I've had were unattractive women and I remember them with respect even after so many years.

2022-06-08T05:44:34+00:00

I have a few friends I'm not attracted to but I still very much like them as friends.

yasserino · 2022-06-08T06:07:45+00:00

I don't look up to or admire any man or woman.

Maybe a lil bit, some Korean dude in Indonesian hotel was the only one wearing a suit on the island. The mom of someone on 90 days fiancé is so German she doesn't even know it

EnteFetz · 2022-06-08T07:09:34+00:00

There are only few women my age and younger that I am not attracted to, but I still try to be friendly to them. And I respect older women even though I am not attracted to them

SlimLovin · 2022-06-08T07:30:36+00:00

Most of the authors I read are women. Ramona Ausubel, Karen Russell, Alissa Nutting, Lorrie Moore, Jhumpa Lahiri, Lauren Groff, Amelia Gray. I’m not necessarily attracted to them all, but some of them are very attractive. I don’t consider that a prerequisite to read their work. I don’t really consider it at all.

Snowbattt · 2022-06-08T07:30:54+00:00

My boss. She's a lady over 50, married and obviously I have no attraction for her whatsoever. But boy do I admire her. She's an excellent boss, she's smart, knowledgeable and I couldn't have asked for a better one.

MarBitt · 2022-06-08T08:44:22+00:00

Definitely yes. I admire many women around me. But you don't know them, so here are some examples of amazing women in history:

Hypatia - died 450 AD, Alexandria, Egypt, philosopher, astronomer, and mathematician. I love her story.

Kassia A great life story of this noble Byzantine woman and she composed amazing music. Of course Hildegard von Bingen and her Symphonia armonie celestium revelationum, but I think Kassia is less famous.

I'm also a fan of many great female singers, with whom I have no idea what they looked like, I like the stories of female warriors and rulers of history (some were really breathtaking)...

Also in my favorite historical epoch are amazing women, for example three mythological sisters: Kazi (powerful sorceress and healer), Libuše (seeress and a legendary ancestor of the Přemyslid dynasty) and Teta (a high priestess at the time of the transition between paganism and Christianity).

Ok-Talk-4303 · 2022-06-08T09:26:34+00:00

Yes and yes.

Ziogatto · 2022-06-08T10:49:12+00:00

Yes. No.

AdobiWanKenobi · 2022-06-08T15:31:32+00:00

Well yeah, obviously?

Substantial_Video560 · 2022-06-08T15:56:30+00:00

I admire professional women who work in the fields of nursing, education and the sciences. I don't admire Instagram models and selfie queens.

analt223 · 2022-06-08T17:51:28+00:00

Elanor Roosevelt was pretty fuckin ugly but I still think when she was the only chick on those UN security councils and shit in the late 40s she was pretty fucking badass

2022-06-08T21:24:11+00:00

firstly i only respect myself secondly everyone kind of looks odd to me because i do not realy feel like i am fully a human

Fine-Training-8196 · 2022-06-10T00:06:35+00:00

Nope

No_Regular1586 · 2022-06-10T04:16:04+00:00

I don't really look up to or admire anyone to be honest, it's a bit cucked to

Khanluka · 2022-06-10T08:47:30+00:00

I respect everyone from the start.

Its your actions and words and opions that make me lose respect for a persoon.

This count for ever men and woman.

2022-06-20T07:43:08+00:00

My best friend is a woman who i absolutely trust and love I'm just not attracted to sexually. She is like my sister, I see her husband as my brother and her daughter as my niece. She has been there for me in my darkest times and have dumped women who told me to stop being friends with her.

She is an amazing mom, wife and friend we have been friends for over a decade, we are smoke buddies, have movie nights we are pretty family at this point. We talked about the idea of us dating and we both went "ewww no" I just can't see her in that light.

Her husband was really weary of me at first I didn't blame him at all. I made sure to hang out with him one on one alot so he could get to know me and now we we are great friends. I have alot of other lady friends the key is to not be attracted to them romantically or sexually.

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