"No one owes you anything" is another battle women are going to lose

Feminism at this point is mostly a series of battles fought ostensibly on behalf of women that have resulted in a pretty unbroken string of losses.

The latest battle more or less centers around what role feminism or women should have in addressing issues facing men in society. The feminist answer is resoundingly: none. Which is fine, path of least resistance.

And for men complaining of companionship woes resulting in loneliness the answer is sharp: no one owes you anything.

First, regarding entitlement, research shows that women feel more entitled to men than vice versa:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4810038/

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This finding compliments the broader research on gender difference in sexual development and behavior [38], which indicates young women place more emphasis than young men on the role of a sexual partner to meet their sexual desires and pleasure\.**

^ for anyone just joining the thread and wanting to utilize motivated reasoning to dissect it, that's a quote. It says what I just said it does. Feel free to read the screeds of your ideologue friends and their increasingly desperate attempts to mischaracterize, misquote, and outright lie about the study to avoid the basic quote above.

For added rhetorical flourish, images of a fantasy rape dystopia are typically invoked as the only possible way to alleviate these complaints men have. That is to say, a callous refusal to hear the problem, followed by implying that the men complaining would essentially be complicit in institutionalized rape. Yeowza!

Like most short-sighted strategies, of which feminists have taken many, this is bound to fail and backfire on women at large.

Typically, a man expecting sex from a woman under any circumstances is verboten. It's a cardinal sin. I've received a lot of vitriol for merely saying it's a wise bet in 2023 to move on from any woman who makes you wait for sex (because it is) with this same rejoinder: no one owes me sex. But the implication is that I owe everyone my attention and time. Because all I'm saying is that I believe in my case and in the case of pretty much any other man, a woman making you wait for sex is not worth your attention and time. This isn't forcing anyone to do anything. This is me deciding how I will allocate my attention on the opposite sex. So the 'no one owes you anything' response makes no sense unless a hidden assumption of entitlement is embedded in the discourse.

And ultimately, men will simply do as I do --- set standards on when to pay women any attention or devote any time to them. When it seems as though their expectations will not be met via the allocation of this time and attention, they will simply no longer participate in opposite sex interactions.

It has already started with record 63% of 18-29 men being single and roughly half of those forgoing any real romantic or sexual effort for the opposite sex. These are men who are in their alleged horny 24/7 sexual prime who have decided against their basic biology that it just isn't worth their time to engage.

Half of all men in this age range have never approached a woman and when you factor in having more than a year go by between 'approaches' you're standing at 90% of men either having never approached a woman or maybe doing so at extremely long and odd intervals.

Misogyny has now risen to a level where it is officially classified as a national security threat.

Connections to increasing misogyny have been made between the unprecedented surge in threats made on US Federal judges and women-hating ideologies.

The rape rate has reached its previous 1990 peak and likely will soon overtake it.

Dating apps seemed to have passed their peak, with stock prices and paying users falling.

Female wages are likely to drop soon because more of the jobs women have are subject to automation, as in roughly 50% of them vs. just 20% for men.

Females are the biggest drivers of consumer spending, with single women spending more than the average household.

45% of women will be single by 2030.

The traits that most highly correlate with lower misogyny i.e. agreeableness, altruism, compassion are traits women punish men for. Women are more attracted to men low in agreeableness, and while women prefer altruistic men for LTRs, they prefer non-altruistic men for STRs (the dominant mode of dating), and last women tend to dole out similar rewards/punishments for kindness/niceness --- although women have created a stigma associated with being a nice guy.

And unwanted celibacy correlates with misogynistic attitudes at IIRC .3.

Women also mainly reward benevolently sexist behavior. Which is more or less akin to treating women like children. What's clear is that women are virtually only rewarding sexism.BDSM is more or less normalizing abuse (you can disagree or agree with this one, it's not vital to the overall point).

Internalization of hegemonic masculinity norms, along with gendered masculine-discrepancy stress pretty accurately predicts propensity for rape, sexual violence, and abuse among men.Last, and to me, the most salient point: Roe v. Wade is over. That represents such a drastic shift in this country and its attitude toward women.

IN sum

Beyond the illogic of the assertion, the rather than cold tone and casual dismissal of the plight of loneliness men are facing could and likely will go down in history as a "let them eat cake," moment.