We’ve all heard about the situation in Ukraine if you’ve read even a bit of news or browsed reddit the last month or so.

Ukraine since the dissipation of the Soviet Union has made strides in disassociating itself from its former Soviet self and has moved closer towards a Liberal, European western democracy. Ukraine has gender equality enshrined in its books or so they say and has had several pro feminist movements since the 80’s.

Since the invasion from Russia, Ukraine has banned men aged 18-60 from leaving the country. What this essentially amounts to is a death sentence where they are choked in the country either forced to die as dogs or die in combat. With the slightest pressure and changes in geopolitics a country that supposedly held western values abandons sex equality ideology and reverts to traditional roles of men dying on the frontline as their corpses become fertiliser for the lands so that the women and children can attain safety.

If you’re from America or any other liberal western society only men are registered for the draft. Don’t kid yourself if shit hits the fan here it’ll be no different from Ukraine.

In 2021 the US Supreme Court struck down a challenge to the male only draft. Austria, Germany, Australia, Denmark you name it have a draft for men over 18 for wartime. No matter where you are biology stays the same.

I just want to make my alignments and biases clear, I am primarily a biological essentialist, in my view culture is a downstream effect rooted in biology (and history). I will attempt to justify my position.

The fact is this idea of “let the men die, save the women and children” idea is timeless, from The Titanic to the earliest civilisations such as the Greeks and so on across the world this has been a recurring trend that cannot be chalked purely up to “cultural values” as a purely social explanation rather it is rooted in biology.

This brings me to my next point which is the idea of male disposability, the idea that an individual male life is less valuable than an individual female life to the survival of the species.

A talking point that is often echoed here is the idea of 80/20 or whatever distribution you may believe it to be.

We have approximately twice as many female ancestors than male ancestors.. How does that even add up? Well, for example, if every 2 women each reproduced with 1 one man and for every 2 men 1 reproduced with two and the other reproduced with none. This lines up with a statistic u had seen before that states about 40 of men reproduced whereas 80% of women did..

You may have also seen this statistic that I have seen here posted at least more than once, 17 women reproduced for one man. But I discount this as it is post agricultural and rather as a result of wealth accumulation whereas the former I listed are genetic and more representative of our hunter gatherer lineage which we spent the vast majority of human evolution in.

You might ask yourself, what ever happened to the men that never reproduced in hunter gatherer society? The answer is simple, they DIED. Male on male violence is thought to have been the leading cause of death in this time period in areas of high competition and low resources.

I am preaching to the choir here but this is essentially just sexual selection and infraspecific competition. You can think of this as raw economics in the form of unequal distribution sex gametes: A man produces more sperm in one day than a woman produces in her life, the female's egg is far more valuable than the sperm, millions of sperm will compete for the same egg real life sexual dynamics are analagous.

Or you can think of it in terms of the burden of reproduction,

  • A tribe consisting of 10 men and 1 woman could not effectively reproduce a second generation due to the occupancy of pregnancy.

  • A tribe consisting of 10 women and 1 man can efficient reproduce a second generation as the man could reproduce with all 10 women.

There is also just more to lose for the mother in reproduction

-There are no maternity leaves in mother nature she is vulnerable to predators killing her, other humans killing her, if she gets hurt and the baby dies the baby will literally necrose inside her and kill her organs. Her immune system is compromised and her need for nutrition and resources incrases to support the baby. Once her pregnancy ends it doesn't stop there. An extremely common cause of death among women pre medical era was childbirth often due to blood loss. Now she must harbour an infant and nurse it to a state of independence once again a very draining and cost heavy process.

Hence given this massive cost/benefit difference females must select far more harshly based on genetics and survivability of the male but not only that the lives of females are far more precious for an equivalent male in terms of survivability for a group, population or species as a whole.

And there you have it, the recurring trend of prioritising women with a biological basis. When the Persians invaded the Greeks, they sent out as many men to die outside the walls of Athens and Sparta, the military turned into an effective meat grinder that would throw as many young men as need be so that even if the vast majority died, if there remained enough women within the walls and the cities, repopulation and recovery would be possible, if the women were to be culled it would devastate and in most likelihood decimate the chances of recovery. This isn’t unique to Greece it’s a universal attitude found in every human culture throughout time. Our culture as well as cultures around the world and throughout time, and have embraced this biological reality whether it be through heroism, sacrifice, loyalty, religion, duty you name it, it’s there.

Now to present day we stand at a unique era in human history where if we live in a first world country we have the liberty of pursuing a gender equal society. Rich in resources with no requirement of conflict and relative peace allows us to pursue gender equality, this is reflected as poorer countries, or an even better example war torn countries with conflict are no where near as egalitarian or gender equal. But I ask of you? What about the future? Maybe not the immediate future, don’t be naive at some point shit will hit the fan, be it a local conflict, between nations, a world war, or climate change and the depletion of natural resources. I know this isn’t r/collapse so I’ll keep it short, at some point whether it be in our generation or after many to come we will be faced with the reality of conflict. And when that happens so what? Will any of you here be championing gender equality or will you revert back to how humans have operated since the dawn of our species, that’s the beautiful thing about biology it doesn’t care for your political ideology.

Culturally Enforced Monogamy was done for population stability, people often think of it as restricting women primarily but it also restricted high value men from taking a disproportionate number of women, so cultures used whatever way of preventing this through monogamy, be it, political, through religion or otherwise. As this institution fades we will creep closer towards the 2:1 ratio of females:males or exceed it given the ease of meeting up new potential mates.

I know this subreddit attracts a decent demographic of incels/blackpillers and that a decent chunk of the more radical ones believe there will be some sort of incel rebellion or revolution. Hate to burst your bubble but it’ll never happen, society is fine and dandy killing your asses come war time, it’s not going to implode just because a certain % of men are unable to reproduce, all that’ll happen is gen Z and following will get hit with an insane wave of depression and suicide, society will function as is.

To sum it up though, I’m not implying women don’t get the short end of the stick for anything, but the way current society portrays it, history has been this big bad monster in the closet called patriarchy in which men have used it to consistently win out and fuck over the other sex , and even academia (yes I took one a sociology class before and I hate myself for it).

Ok I’m done with my schizo rant I felt the urge to type this for a while bear with me I did it all on mobile and half drunk.

Will check later.