Men should stop prioritizing decency when it comes to dating as it's something irrelevant to modern women's' attraction

Plazmatron44 · 2024-05-14T17:37:50+00:00

Decency and morals are only going to matter if you're good looking, it's the same with hobbies, it isn't going to matter if you travel, climb mountains, go kayaking and are willing to try new adventurous things because if you are ugly then women aren't going to care how interesting you are.

Good looks always get your foot in the door, decency may get you rest of the way through it.

ZeeMark17 · 2024-05-14T15:43:41+00:00

I get what OP is saying. Basically too many men are trying to fit into the "this is how I should act according to women" category, instead of just being themselves.

OP is not saying men should be indecent.

This is a "stop trying to be a nice guy" post.

I got to say though, you lost me at using age gap as an advantage. This should come naturally if it happens.

UnhappyInevitable680 · 2024-05-14T16:29:26+00:00

What OP is saying is kindness and decency is not going to attract a woman alone or even be a high point of attraction for them at all. However I do believe kindness and decency is extremely attractive to the man. This is probably why men use this strategy because everyone’s world is their mirror. Same with women trying to be boss babes and leaning into their toughness and inflated sense of pride. Women want traits that make a good father and men want traits that make a good mother, that is the gist of attraction.

TheGreatBeefSupreme · 2024-05-14T15:14:00+00:00

You should prioritize decency because it’s ethical and morally correct, not because of any benefit you derive from it.

BetPitiful5094 · 2024-05-14T17:18:04+00:00

I've learned that women essentially have two separate groups for things they value. The first group is the most important to them but they do not talk about it. It would be unseemly and paint them in bad light socially. That group is: Great looking, big cock, money, and status. That is what is most important to nearly every woman that has options. Lesser women have to take what they can get like most other people.

The second group is the one they only talk about. That group consists of personality, decency, humor, yada yada yada. It's all the stuff you hear them talk about and makes them look like they are a woman of substance. This stuff is legitimately important to them but it's secondary to the big 4 in the first group.

When men figure out the first group is the only real thing that matters and they work to improve any aspect of those four things then men will have more success in dating.

Sharp_Engineering379 · 2024-05-14T15:05:22+00:00

Define decency.

What women value first and foremost is their attraction to you,

What is indecent about sex and attraction?

N-Zoth · 2024-05-14T15:08:56+00:00

Yea if you want a healthy relationship you probably want to be with someone who values decency lol

FreitasAlan · 2024-05-14T19:53:06+00:00

Nowadays, decency is meant to keep a relationship. Not to generate attraction. You prioritize attraction to start the thing and then decency to maintain a relationship if you want that.

Parents do not give terrible advice. It's just that things change very fast, and the best advice they can give is whatever worked at the time. Not long ago, prioritizing decency was smart because people would look for relationship material.

Also, there are many other reasons to be a decent person besides dating, and decency is not difficult to achieve, so there's no reason not to achieve it before hitting the gym or whatever else works for attraction.

Tokimonatakanimekat · 2024-05-14T21:17:45+00:00

Isn't that obvious? If decency was attractive there'd be way less single mothers and majority of remaining ones would've been widows.

just_a_place · 2024-05-14T17:28:29+00:00

Some women may prefer decency in a man because it is a very reliable indicator of trustworthiness.

Being a decent man is something that we do out of our own sense of honor and prestige which is tied to our masculinity. We are not decent people out of some motivation to get pussy. That is an incel-ish and weakly imitative mindset. We are decent because it is the correct thing to be, and the honorable thing to do, irrespective of the opinions of others. Decency is not performative, it is the attitude and the behaviors we enact when no one is looking. That and that alone is what makes it genuine and not some show or fake performance. That is also why it is one of the testers for genuine masculinity, and honorability among men.

What men should really be focusing on is increasing their attractiveness and taking advantage of power dynamics (wealth, age gap, etc.)

Sorry dude but this sounds very incel-ish as hell. Very performance based, tacky, gaudy, and all flash with no substance.

Never make the fatal mistake of confusing decency with niceness. Decent men are not always nice. In fact, decency mandates the assertiveness to impose order, justice, and initiative when it is warranted, or demanded.

Let women be attracted to whatever the hell it is they feel like being attracted to. They will get what they seek. If they like garbage, then a dumpster fire is all they'll get. If they like value, then value is what they will find. Give your own attention only to those women who show interest in your actual qualities and not on whatever act or performance you're putting out for them. Otherwise they will fall in love with the performance and not give a shit about the performer.

Ayaka_Simp_ · 2024-05-14T16:21:06+00:00

It won't help you attract her, but it'll help you keep her.

TRTGymBro1 · 2024-05-14T15:47:13+00:00

It's not decency or kindness. It's being overly nice and considerate especially in the early dating stages. Go to any of the dating advice related subs and they are full of stories of men who:

-get one word answers from women on apps

-men who have been stood up more than once by the same girl

-men who have chased a woman for months and sometimes years

-men who act as if women are doing them a major favor by taking time away from their week to go out with them.

The one thing in common is how nice and accommodating they are to women who give them the runaround. Calling her to ask her out and she says "I may have an event on Saturday, but why don't you check with me in the morning and I will let you know if it's happening" and then being "okay, I will call you Saturday morning. I will go ahead and make reservations now just in case".

Or getting ghosted or stood up and saying "should I ask her out again? Maybe she really was busy with washing her hair on Saturday night" and so on and so forth. You don't owe women you've just met any niceness and consideration. They are a nobody to you. The only reason you do that is because you have no other options and are a pushover.

student2839 · 2024-05-14T17:48:00+00:00

Are you interested in a healthy and loving relationship? Because from your post, esp the last part, it doesn’t seem like it.

wtknight · 2024-05-14T16:10:23+00:00

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NerdfaceMcJiminy · 2024-05-14T16:28:43+00:00

If decency mattered the twoX subreddit wouldn't be an endless abyss of abused women.

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VWGUYWV · 2024-05-14T20:53:04+00:00

Men need to stop being fake nice to try to get women. That's all.

Some women might genuinely like or be bamboozled by men with dark triad traits, but if you aren't a bad person, then you are not going to be comfortable with this and also it will show through. So, aside from the moral implications, it just isn't a practical solution to anything. And you don't want a woman that loves assholes.

What I would suggest for your life and your love life also, is do what you can to develop genuine confidence and also good boundaries and a backbone. This is what women are after half the time when they choose the jerk. It will also pay off overall.

Hi-Road · 2024-05-14T22:21:36+00:00

I feel like if men stopped basing their behavior on what women find sexually attractive and instead focus on building healthy behavioral habits and stop entertaining mentally unhealthy women this shit woulda pan out better

Zabadoodude · 2024-05-14T15:44:29+00:00

Ideally you would be a decent human being because it aligns with your morals, not just as a ploy to get women.

Being an obvious asshole will repel mentally stable women, which are the ones you probably want. But, yes, being exceptionally decent instead of just fairly decent doesn't help you much in dating.

Nyxolith · 2024-05-14T16:35:56+00:00

If you want to date emotionally immature women because they're hot, why are you surprised that those same women are into men who are hot?

DRW0813 · 2024-05-14T15:38:16+00:00

Do you want to be life partners with a woman who doesn't value decency? I never understood guys guys who complain girls only go for bad boys. 1) it's not true. 2) do you want to date a girl who is like that anyways? Do you want to marry a girl like that?

Sharp_Engineering379 · 2024-05-14T15:22:30+00:00

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Unhappy_Offer_1822 · 2024-05-14T15:29:17+00:00

so basically prioritize what you want not what other people tell you to. that would make more sense

SmallSituation6432 · 2024-05-14T18:10:35+00:00

TL;DR: If you're an asshole then I see no reason to not be an asshole based on one singular selfish motivation; getting laid. Ethics are meaningless and without value when you only care about hedonism.

Flightlessbirbz · 2024-05-14T19:45:34+00:00

Not everything in life is about being hawt and getting laid. Being a decent person is one of those things. That’s about feeling proud of who you are and maintaining healthy and fulfilling relationships with those around you.

Now what I do agree with is playing nice when you’re not is usually not going to help you get laid and also is meaningless. But that doesn’t mean it’s pointless to be a decent human and is no reason to stop being one if you are. You can be a good person and also realize that improving your looks and social skills are what’s necessary to improve your dating life. It’s not an either/or thing. Your character alone won’t get you dates but does count a lot when it comes to maintaining both romantic and platonic relationships.

Scarce12 · 2024-05-14T23:07:25+00:00

I think it's more to the point that they should priotize decency in their partner.

That this is the big issue.

bluestjuice · 2024-05-15T00:18:26+00:00

Hypothesis: perhaps it makes no difference in terms of attracting a larger number of partners or in making partners more attracted to you, but could still impact which partners find you attractive.

2024-05-15T01:35:04+00:00

Yeah, I remember one lady telling me that I was too nice of a person to be attractive to date so I find this accurate.

uterine_blackmail · 2024-05-15T02:29:22+00:00

I am a woman and I agree with you, especially the part "A lot of this delusion has to do with bad/naive parenting." I felt this in my bones. BUT, this applies to women too. I mean, everything you wrote applies to women who want to attract men. It all boils down to how good and young a woman looks. Personality is secondary. Men say they want a loyal and kind woman, but that's a lie. They want a hot woman. Period. Men will say that they are disgusted by fake breasts and then will drool over fake breasts. Being nice, kind, loyal does NOTHING to increase or create attraction when it's not there.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2024-05-15T22:40:28+00:00

Thinking that being nice and kind will endear you to women comes from a childish view of relationships and attraction that men develop from the media they view.

What men should really be focusing on is increasing their attractiveness and taking advantage of power dynamics (wealth, age gap, etc.) in order to find success-

This a thousand times over!!!!!! I wish I could still give awards because this is literally the best advice you could give any man

serialphile · 2024-05-14T19:02:07+00:00

I’m a woman on the masculine side that dates feminine women. I think a lot of men go about women all wrong because they try to look for a handbook or rules on how to make women attracted to them. They want some consistent formula of what will work.

It’s not going to work if you’re consistently the good guy. It’s not going to work you’re consistently the bad guy. It’s not going to work if you’re consistently anything.

Women will say they want consistency and I think a little consistency makes them feel safe. But they don’t want so much consistency that you’re boring and they can predict your every move.

With women, it’s all about balance. They want you to be a nice guy sometimes and they want you to stand up for yourself and make things exciting sometimes.

So no. Don’t throw decency out the window. Be overall decent but don’t be afraid to flirt and tease, make dirty jokes, be honest about your opinions and be adventurous in the bedroom.

It’s not rocket science my dudes.

Solondthewookiee · 2024-05-14T15:25:55+00:00

Wait, have the red pillers who post here been acting with decency until now?

fiftypoundpuppy · 2024-05-14T16:21:11+00:00

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Cethlinnstooth · 2024-05-14T15:19:29+00:00

Successful men can and will just keep doing whatever they are doing.

And most unsuccessful men tend to have problems doing anything well.

John_Oakman · 2024-05-14T16:20:18+00:00

As genuine moral virtues are wholly independent of worldly results, showing your true depravity is not the flex you think it is.

KayRay1994 · 2024-05-14T18:09:33+00:00

You def shouldn’t be prioritizing decency in the sense that it will make women attracted to you (news flash, it hardly does, especially if it’s performative) - you should prioritize decency because you want to be an upright person, sex should not be your motivator to do this and if it is your motivator, you are by definition an indecent person.

With that being said, the advice you give is awful and is exactly how one gets into toxic relationships where they’re either taking advantage of someone or are being taken advantage of.

Sabrepill · 2024-05-14T22:15:58+00:00

It’s also because women constantly virtue signal and lie about what they are really attracted to. Foolish men actually believe the nonsense. Sometimes women themselves don’t consciously know what they are attracted to, and think it’s a bunch of traits it’s not. When in reality, it’s the their subconscious and instinct which attracts them to certain men and not to others.

balhaegu · 2024-05-15T03:54:02+00:00

Kindness and Niceness are two different things.

Kindness is helping a nearby woman (young, elderly, mother, anyone) put her luggage on the plane because it's the "right thing to do". You don't need to help every woman on the plane. Just the lady you share an aisle with.

Niceness is throwing gifts to a beautiful woman because you hope it will impress her. You wouldn't have done the same for someone you weren't attracted to, which is a double standard and says you lack principle.

Kindness is attractive. Niceness is creepy.

Kindness shows: If the woman you're with gets sick, you will nurse and care for her.

Niceness shows: You will away all your resources to ungrateful people to just to get their validation and then the family will be doomed.

Sure there will be many women who do not appreciate kindness or decency. But you do not want to be in a committed relationship with them. Women with good upbringing will take note of decent men who also retain their masculine strengths, and will make better long term partners. They will be few, just like how there will be few good men.

Hot_Lack_4868 · 2024-05-15T04:20:59+00:00

I would say being nice ,kind or humble at best gives 0 points with women and at worst could give even minus points .

goo_wak_jai · 2024-05-15T04:25:58+00:00

I think it's important to stop conflating attraction with dating or attraction with maintaining a relationship--as attraction is a state of being which is quite different from dating or maintaining a relationship, both of which are actions.

Attraction exists with or without external stimuli. It just 'is'.

Dating involves some type of action--go ask the person out, go acquire resources, go and work out at a gym, go and act funny, go and talk about mutually enjoyable hobbies, interests, values, etc. The same is true for maintaining relationships except the set of actions are different. Those actions are usually 'maintenance' type of actions rather than finding common interests, hobbies or conversations to enjoy together.

To 'attract'--contrary to popular belief, is not an action in and of itself. When people colloquially use that word--they usually mean 'go do some type of action' in hopes that those efforts will somehow, 'magically', induce, sway, convince or otherwise 'attract' the object of their desire but this simply isn't true nor is it possible--as again, 'attraction' is a state of being that exists with or without external stimuli.

In other words, just because you acquired a lot of resources, happen to be born 6ft+ tall, happen to have developed a well rounded, cultured personality and the object of your desire 'happens' to be attracted to you, it doesn't necessarily mean that former set of actions induced or caused the latter event. It could--but it's not a guarantee.

As people often times say, just as it is easily possible for instant attraction to occur, it is also just as easily possible to lose attraction in a blink of an eye. I'm sure many folks here have personally witnessed this phenomenon happen in real life.

I would tend to agree that 'decency', in and of itself, is not relevant to attraction, man or woman. In fact, I would take it a step further and say that any action, not simply decency, niceness or the size of one's wallet, is not relevant to attraction. But most people, man or woman, cannot accept this idea as the basis of it all, since it would necessarily imply that there's nothing you can do to change one's outcome when it comes to attracting one's object of desire.

Admittedly, it's a rather bleak way of looking at attraction but human nature is what it is. It is neither right nor wrong. It just 'is'.

All of the rest of your paragraphs just serve to justify the prior supposition that's in the title of your post so I'm not even going to bother refuting those points. Those are strawman arguments at best.

ResidentEnergy5263 · 2024-05-15T11:18:25+00:00

Kindness shouldn't have to be prioritized; it should be a given. Being decent is totally compatible with being attractive and interesting. Being a jerk/unkind just leads to the world being more fucked up. Women should be decent and kind too.

Old_Luck285 · 2024-05-15T11:44:19+00:00

Kindness (to people overall) is a basic requirement for me. As this, being kind doesn't help a man getting selected but I'll exclude him as a dating option if he's not kind.

KorinTowerFreeloader · 2024-05-15T16:17:29+00:00

Spot on, OP. Sadly, most of us were raised by women (more female teachers, etc.) or blue-pilled men and we have been programmed to subconsciously believe that women don't care about looks as much as men and if you are nice, interesting, and with top-notch morals women will choose you.

Imagine if the message was:

women care about looks as much as men if not more
women do not give a shit about your niceness or morals, in fact, it's a turn-off, and the more dark-triad personality traits you display the better
the more alpha you are the better and you want to act the opposite of what a friend would act like with a woman

For me, these were major growing up. I thought that if I could just be good enough to a girl I like, become her friend, understand her, and do nice things for her she would "see me." After all, she would always say how she wants a nice guy and is sick of guys acting like assholes. She would repeatedly say how great I was etc., and that any girl would be lucky to be with me. What women really mean is "I am insecure around guys I already find attractive, so it would be really great if they could actually give a damn about me because I want them to."

RubyDiscus · 2024-05-15T18:06:04+00:00

I mean being an asshole is not going to get a guy extra points.

So really being decent is the best way to go. But attraction and chemistry is top.

Clear_Ad6054 · 2024-05-14T16:30:11+00:00

Bad or Good dont mean anything. Just shaming language used to control others. Those in power define what's "Good". Anything "bad" is only bad because it inconveniences them. Those who focus on being a "good" person mainly do so because they have more pressure from society to be "good". AKA Weak.

This whole idea of morals is pushed on men because men have the power to really cause damage when they break the rules. And by "rules" I mean the morals set in place that give women the power to manipulate men. This is why Women dont like "good" men. Because being "good" means she already has power over you.

Women do not care how "kind" you are. Those kinds of traits are language used to manipulate men into giving up their time and resources.

waffleznstuff30 · 2024-05-14T19:47:57+00:00

Decency should be a given.

I don't want to act cruel to others. Being pleasant and nice to be around is okay. And is generally expected. It's like being toilet trained essentially. And it would shocking and disturbing when you find out someone essentially just shits their pants all the time. Like it's disturbing and shocking when someone acts with cruelty and being generally an emotionally immature toddler.

The issue with "nice guys" is they put on a persona it's contrived niceness. A quid pro quo. Like I'm nice date me. And it simply just doesn't work like that.

Competitive-Ask4393 · 2024-05-14T15:18:47+00:00

True kindness and decency should be reserved for someone you deeply care about.

No different than your emotional involvement with randoms vs a friend or family member.

Do you show the bare minimum respect and decency when speaking to a random?? Of course, but you don’t go overboard or it comes across as needy, annoying and weird. If they treat you like shit, you treat them like shit. On the other hand you’re very open in this regard with friends/family you know and care about.

Why should this be any different in dating / hookups?? Guys who are overly kind and display decency as their main selling point will get the same treatment you get from a randoms. “he’s needy, annoying and weird”.

If your goals to kill the sexual nature and excitement on your first date and give friend vibes, there you go.

8won6 · 2024-05-14T18:56:08+00:00

Another way to put it is:

Don't think being a "good guy"..."nice person"..."kind person"....will ENTITLE you to getting the women you want. You do that because you are supposed to just be a good person.

spanglesandbambi · 2024-05-14T16:55:04+00:00

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OffTheRedSand · 2024-05-14T16:16:20+00:00

A great way to make your chances go from 1% to 0%

Refusetosay12 · 2024-05-14T16:38:50+00:00

It's not women's job to reward decency in men. Some women understand this too well, but that's a different topic.

yodawgchill · 2024-05-14T18:06:21+00:00

This is such bad advice, it is honestly really immature and just stupid. Most women who want an actual long term relationship will value the decency.

If you are looking to fuck someone off of tinder and probably never see them again, then yeah decency may not play a huge role.

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Commercial_Tea_8185 · 2024-05-14T18:15:53+00:00

You arent being ‘decent or kind’ if youre only doing so because you think itll get you something, jfc.

Do you say these sorts of things to ppl in your life? Because that would explain ur problem

wtknight · 2024-05-14T15:17:01+00:00

It’s not really irrelevant. A kind attractive man will attract better quality partners than an unkind attractive man.

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FirmQuarter6623 · 2024-05-14T21:42:37+00:00

When rules and referees are against you, fuck them.

jasmine_tea_ · 2024-05-15T03:01:38+00:00

Genuine kindness & thoughtfulness are also personality traits, and may increase attractiveness. But I think you're right that sadly, these aren't valued by a whole lot of people, man or woman.

What men should really be focusing on is increasing their attractiveness and taking advantage of power dynamics (wealth, age gap, etc.)

This is true, but I hate it. Even if something is transactional or the other party benefits, the relationship will be better for everyone, including kids, if there's some other genuine way that they bond together.

addings0 · 2024-05-15T18:14:18+00:00

It's called being patient. Don't have to be ' nice guy ', but wait long enough until she gets her point across of what she wants.

obviousredflag · 2024-05-16T09:46:04+00:00

Every research on the planet ever done points to kindness being among the most important traits for a LTR partner for men and women. But of course, your shower thoughts proved all of that wrong. Classic.

MidnightOpposite4892 · 2024-05-16T11:36:13+00:00

If you're a bad boy with tattoos and an ex-convict, you're probably ahead of the nice guy.

the_jingster · 2024-05-18T17:17:23+00:00

Boys need to be encouraged to be dominant, and girls need to be encouraged to be nurturing. I was lucky enough to have a middle school gym teacher who did exactly that

Milede1 · 2024-05-18T23:49:50+00:00

This is unbelievably wrong. Kindness and decency matters the most.

ilikecats18851 · 2024-05-26T01:05:00+00:00

You should be decent enough to where random women don't try to destroy your life through social pressure. Yes, it's unfair you are held to a different standard, but don't fuck up your social life in protest. They've won and there's nothing you can do

literaryhogwartian · 2024-05-14T15:15:27+00:00

Decency and kindness are HUGELY important

superlurkage · 2024-05-14T15:59:26+00:00

Yes, please do

I’m sure you’ll find many functional relationships with normal women

tres_ecstuffuan · 2024-05-14T18:25:02+00:00

Being kind and nice recently turned what was a rejection from a date into being a friend with benefits. I’d say it’s worked out great for me.

Intellect7000 · 2024-05-14T18:52:38+00:00

Our attraction is based on evolutionary adaption to survive in the wilderness. Being kind will not get you food resources or fight against wild animals.

GrandpaDallas · 2024-05-15T02:57:13+00:00

What many men fail to realize until much later in life, if at all, is that things like kindness and decency have little to nothing to do with how much a woman is attracted to you.

What women value first and foremost is their attraction to you, whether that be due to looks, personality, talent, etc.

You don’t think kindness is part of what makes someone’s personality attractive?

The problem is you’re choosing actions based on your goal. I don’t practice kindness and decency as a means to get women to be attracted to me, I practice kindness and decency because I enjoy being kind and decent to people. I like when those around me are having a good time, and have been told that’s part of what makes me attractive.

If you need to be powerful to be attractive, you’re admitting to yourself that you need someone lesser than you to find success in relationships

East_Writer_2892 · 2024-05-15T04:15:16+00:00

Being "decent" to get laid isn't a personality. You can be a nice kind man and still be charming, attractive, assertive with a backbone. all the "decent" men here seem to think regular flirting makes you an "asshole" you aren't decent you're a doormat. You know what scores of women call men with those qualities I just listed? "unicorns" You clean up when it comes to getting relationships. The thing so many guys are missing is that they think being nice, boring and agreeable with women will get them sex. That's not how attraction works. No one wants to date a doormate. Okay some people do but those men/women would be happy with a maid/butler

enjoyingtheride1650 · 2024-05-14T15:10:51+00:00

I disagree. Men should prioritize being kind and decent regardless of whether women are into it or not. Kindness and decency are traits worth cultivating, because I believe that if we were all more kind the world as a whole would improve. Trying to be a kind/decent man is as valuable for a playboy as it is for a literal monk.

And when it comes to dating, well I suppose kindness alone will not get you very far. Many women do not value such a trait, and even among those who do kindness is hardly all it takes. But then I have to ask you if a woman who does not care about her man being kind or gentle or decent is a woman worthy of sharing your bed or your life. Certainly it might require more: a kind/decent athlete is probably going to get more girls than a kind/decent overweight man. But I think that these things are needed as a baseline, and should be valued in that light. If a woman doesn't value them, then don't pursue her.

januaryphilosopher · 2024-05-14T15:43:11+00:00

Kindness is part of your personality. It's an attractive trait. Women are drawn to men all the time due to kindness, it's often the forst thing that really makes them pay attention. And it's not like being attractive is the only reason to be kind either, you should focus on and develop it because it's good to be nice to people generally speaking.

NoDanaOnlyZuuI · 2024-05-14T17:30:04+00:00

Men should priority decency in general.

Attraction will get you a first date. Being a good person will get you a relationship.

nopridewithoutshame · 2024-05-14T17:55:16+00:00

Decency is attractive. I get all hot and bothered by a man who shares the same values as me. I'll never want to let him go. If you have values opposed to mine and are indecent, then that's creepy and gross.

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apresonly · 2024-05-15T21:27:02+00:00

women are already fleeing from apps and dating in general bc of how men treat us.

if you wanna increase the speed of that, go for it.

just don't cry about the "woman are wonderful" effect when people prefer women (who aren't promoting being shitty people) to men (who are actively telling each other to be shittier)

Title	Men should stop prioritizing decency when it comes to dating as it's something irrelevant to modern women's' attraction
Author	LordArtichud
Upvotes	124
Comments	410
Date	May 14, 2024 3:02 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1crubmk/men_should_stop_prioritizing_decency_when_it/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/men-should-stop-prioritizing-decency-when-it-comes.1518485 https://theredarchive.com/post/1518485

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