Why we need feminism

khaosxxkels · 2012-11-12T20:23:03+00:00

For everyone up in arms over number two..She was obviously trolling. Here is one there she's actually serious. Tumblr user communismkills.

TheDongerNeedsFood · 2012-11-12T18:41:00+00:00

Wait, some of these aren't tongue in cheek jokes?

pocketknifeMT · 2012-11-12T18:39:09+00:00

Translations:

1st one: I need feminism because men keep asking for equality.

2nd: I need feminism because I'm entitled to sex despite my herpes.

3rd: I need feminism because at 16 I'm responsible enough to drive the most lethal machine in North America, but I'm not responsible enough to buy contraception.

4th: I need feminism because some people still vote in ways that I don't approve of.

5th: I need feminism because the bars I go to should be forced to only play songs I like.

6th: I need feminism because its ok for me to tell women what they can do with their bodies.

JohnAdamZiolkowski · 2012-11-12T19:08:37+00:00

Having to dance to songs that degrade her?

Having to dance?

I tend to stay away from the memes here, but if I didn't, this would definitely deserve a jackiechanwtf.png

You don't have to dance to every song, and you don't have to go out at all. If you knowingly go to clubs, you're encouraging them with your money to continue playing the songs they play.

anecdotal · 2012-11-12T19:25:50+00:00

I need feminism to remind me why I don't want to date anymore.

2012-11-12T20:23:18+00:00

Calm down, fellas. Pretty sure these aren't serious. Hope not, at least. Especially the STD one.

Lecks · 2012-11-12T18:33:29+00:00

"STDs should be a badge of honor?" WTF?

Now, I agree that having an STD shouldn't turn someone into a social leper. But I'd be very worried if someone was going around saying "I've got AIDS, isn't that fucking AMAZING???"

Also that last one about condoning selling sex for money. Fuck women who make choices about their own bodies amirite? One wonders how she feels about the men who do the same thing. Something tells me she doesn't even realize there are men who do the same thing

MRB2012 · 2012-11-12T19:24:00+00:00

That is a perfectly valid question. Why isn't there a men's center at your college? Is it not possible for men to face trauma that they may need some help handling?
Having an STD means, as a general rule, that you did something epically stupid. Either you had unprotected sex with someone who had an STD, or you IV drugs. Usually, you did this several times. That should not be a badge of honor. You might as well call it a "badge of honor" to have scars from the time you thought it would be funny to have your friends throw firecrackers at you. Stupidity is not an honorable trait.
Most pregnancies in the US are caused by consensual sex (while it is certainly possible for rape to result in a pregnancy, the amount of rapes in the US is miniscule next to the number of consensual sex acts). If 16 year old you wasn't ready to be a mother, 16 year old you shouldn't have been having sex.
Yes, people disagree with your views. Adults understand this. Idiotic children do not. You have just told everyone which of these two kinds of person you are, and just to be sure that no one would forget you put it on the internet.
Then don't dance to songs that degrade you. No one is putting a gun to your head, forcing you to go out to night clubs, and forcing you to dance. You are choosing to do these things. If you don't like it, stay home.
That's like saying every blue collar worker in the nation condones slave labor. Choosing to do something for money and being forced to do something are two entirely separate things.

YumYum_Bottle_of_Rum · 2012-11-12T20:58:08+00:00

I need feminism because I enjoy laughing at this meme.

LeafBlowingAllDay · 2012-11-13T06:57:23+00:00

Why do these keep getting posted? These posts are just baiting anger and knee jerk reactions and don't really contribute to anything useful...

That being said, number 1 is the one that irks me the most. :P

I don't understand why a men's center would be wrong. Or why someone can't see the blatant hypocrisy.

Any exclusive club is going to be divisive. I always used to think it was funny how we were allowed to have a Black Student Union on campus, but there would be outrage if I tried to start a White Student Union.

But why not?

It's like the taxi in the UK that women started, which only accept women customers, because they are afraid that they might get raped by a male taxi driver.

Imagine if we started a white-only taxi company because we were afraid we might get mugged by black customers. Good lord.

deadlyfalcon89 · 2012-11-12T18:56:15+00:00

These were so bad that I couldn't tell if they were serious until the "clubbing" one.

Feminism is a hateful ideology.

DavidTheWin · 2012-11-12T18:40:39+00:00

My post from the /r/rage thread:

The first image really pisses me off. The kind of people who think men have it all good in this world are simply fucking retarded and have no excuse for thinking it. Men make up the majority of homeless people and the majority of violent deaths. We also take nearly all the positions of the worst jobs in the world (something like 99% of the worst jobs in the world are held by men, don't quote me on that because it's probably wrong) but people still concentrate on the top 100 people or so who are CEOs and say "look how good men have it!".

I'm angry, but I guess this is what I should expect from /r/rage.

sssttttffffuuuuu · 2012-11-12T19:43:13+00:00

Are these people serious?

Do they really think those are even halfway good excuses?

Abe_Vigoda · 2012-11-13T00:10:11+00:00

Getting herpes is not a badge of honour, it's a sign that you didn't probably didn't pay enough attention in sex ed class.

Most of these are ridiculous. The last 2 do have some validity though.

Music is geared towards 'sexploiting' women while impressioning men with shallow values of women. Not just music, but tv, tabloid magazines, and our entire culture.

ilovehulahoops · 2012-11-13T01:15:30+00:00

STD's as a badge of honor? Seriously?! Last time I checked bad decisions weren't something to be honored regardless of gender.

gazork_chumble_spuzz · 2012-11-13T04:37:08+00:00

I find that a lot of these "I need feminism because..." things are often really lame. How about "I need feminism because, in my country, I'm not allowed to vote or drive because I'm a woman"? That's a valid reason! Stuff about video games, or annoying questions like "why isn't there a men's center" (don't know what's wrong with men wanting a men's center anyway!), is pathetic.

MarcosElMentiroso · 2012-11-13T06:46:18+00:00

"I need feminism because my roommate has different political opinions than mine which obviously makes them worse than Hitler."

Nepene · 2012-11-12T19:26:47+00:00

Or to put it another way, we don't need feminism that much if these are the sorts of issues people have.

conan93 · 2012-11-12T20:27:20+00:00

Uhh... These are jokes... Right? ...Right?

SenorSpicyBeans · 2012-11-12T21:57:13+00:00

Holy what the fucking balls shit ass damn.

My mind is so fucked by some of these I could even properly form a string of swears.

yopp343 · 2012-11-12T23:43:51+00:00

You need feminism because your roomate voted for Romney? So basically feminism is a giant thumb for you to suck when you're upset.

"I need feminism because the barista got my order wrong"

MartialWay · 2012-11-12T23:56:29+00:00

All gold but 5 are my favorites. Nobody is forcing her to dance to anything, she is going out and CHOOSING to dance to songs she believes are degrading to women. Have a seat if you don't like the song.

2012-11-13T01:36:09+00:00

No one forces anyone to go out dancing. I also don't like club culture (for different reasons). So I don't go to clubs. I don't whine about it online and try to force people to play music I like at clubs.

Pacalakin · 2012-11-13T01:36:26+00:00

I don't see what feminism has to do with that. Why DON'T we have a men's center? Are we not as important?
Why would anyone be proud of that? Sure, you shouldn't be shamed for it, but why be proud that you now have some serious condition? And again, what the hell does it have to do with feminism?
I'm like a broken record because WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH FEMINISM? If you had sex with him, you're both at fault. If you didn't consent, he may be at fault but what does that have to do with rights? It's a legal issue.
I can sort of see how feminism comes into this one, but really? Unless your roommate has some agenda against you, why is that a big deal? Romney had terrible social views, but he had a few good policies. Maybe they just agreed with them.
What? What does that even... what? Who the hell is forcing you to dance to bad songs with a gun against your head?
What does it have to do with feminism? I mean what... what does it even have to do with feminism? That has nothing to do with rights! They strip willingly! They could be a cashier or a waitress or anything with equal requirements. Who are you to say they can't do that if they want to? And what, like they aren't competent enough to make their own decisions?

Aerithia1 · 2012-11-12T21:50:02+00:00

I'd like to make it as simple as possible to see everything I don't like in this, by number the pictures in order of appearance and then simply pointing out the bullshit.

1. - Why don't they have a men's center? how about you ask yourself that question, then taste the horrific juicy goodness of a red pill.

2. - having an STD is a badge of honor? I should see what my friend who has herpes thinks about that. She'd kick the shit out of you.

I have a respiratory disease that prevents me from doing a lot of normal every-day things, is that a badge of honor? no? then how is contracting a disease that is easily avoidable a badge of honor? It's a badge of stupidity or gullibility.

3. - 16 year old you should have had a condom handy. If you REALLY don't want to get pregnant, you won't, or at least, have a ridiculously small chance of getting pregnant. Unplanned pregnancies are the results of people saying 'It won't happen to me.'

4. - Who gives a shit who voted for who? as far as politics goes, everyone will get fucked either way. Someone disagrees with your left wing views and your first response is 'FUCKING MISOGYNIST' that shit happens in Australia, and seeing as I plan on migrating to the U.S I'd rather not see that horse-shit.

5. - No one forces you to dance to them.

I know far more women who listen to, dance and by albums with songs that talk about asses and breasts and what-not than I do men. They play music that people want to hear. Don't like the music? leave the club.
How does the song degrade you? like, personally degrade you? It doesn't. fuck off.

6. - So you don't like strippers, prostitution or pornography? huh, It's really funny how I see a lot of feminists who are like that. You don't like strippers, prostitution or porn because some people are forced to do it. My question is, why don't you back tougher laws and task-forces to help stopping sex trafficking as opposed to campaigning against prostitutes and porn. That fixes nothing.

I live in Australia, where prostitution is A-OK, Brothels are legal too, depending on which state you live in. I can open the local paper, and go to the classifieds and find prostitutes. What a lovely country right? You know, in a country where so many women will willingly sleep with you for cash, why BUY a person? Pimping and stuff is a problem in the US with prostitution because it is an unregulated and illegal practice.

Fuck I hate people some-days.

stiffy2005 · 2012-11-12T22:07:12+00:00

The one about STD's? WTF?

Chutzvah · 2012-11-12T22:25:47+00:00

"I need feminism because my roommate voted for Romney." I have no words.

JeremyKean · 2012-11-13T13:21:00+00:00

Number 6:

I am the only person I know who understands that MAKING SHOES CONDONES MAKING SHOES. That every person who would willingly make their own shoes for money CONDONES the child who is FORCED to make shoes in Vietnamese sweatshops.

That's what I heard when I read that. What a complete fucking non sequitur. By selling your body for sex, you are condoning selling your body for sex... therefore, you're ok with human trafficking!!!

Not how things work, you silly asshat.

Paxmagister · 2012-11-12T20:55:46+00:00

Sounds like every one was "I need to learn to use my free will", except the one about the men's center.

PrincessGary · 2012-11-12T21:59:54+00:00

I hate the last one, fucking hate it.

Yes, there are some people into the sex trade, because they were forced, HOWEVER that doesn't mean all sex workers are trafficked.

I am a woman, and I don't need feminism.

C0CKPUNCHER · 2012-11-12T18:43:27+00:00

Some of these are mutually exclusive.

YumYum_Bottle_of_Rum · 2012-11-12T20:57:38+00:00

My sides=Obliterated

Zosimasie · 2012-11-12T20:59:28+00:00

The person posted a second set.

Right this way, gents.

TheAlmightyProphet · 2012-11-12T23:06:09+00:00

The third one is completely valid.

hamsterwheel · 2012-11-12T23:25:46+00:00

Number 5 is fair to an extent. Lots of music is distasteful and degrading to women. I'd be irritated too. however she does have the option of going to a place that doesnt play that music.

bluekirara · 2012-11-13T03:40:22+00:00

Why is this on /r/Mensrights? This is a collection of people who are joking about or seriously misrepresenting feminism. How does bashing a few stupid women further the cause of men's rights?

DramaDramaLlama · 2012-11-13T01:13:24+00:00

We need feminism that incorporates men and stops treating them as an outside party that has nothing to do with the movement.

2012-11-13T02:27:05+00:00

"waaah i have to dance to songs that degrade me when I go out"

here's a crazy idea- DON'T DANCE TO THOSE SONGS. Shocking, I know. I like #2, she seems to be the only one out of the lot who doesn't have her head shoved up her own butt.

Thecrumblingcookie · 2012-11-13T02:49:18+00:00

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Thecrumblingcookie · 2012-11-13T02:54:27+00:00

6: Because any woman who makes a small fortune dancing in a strip club is degrading to me because we both have the same genitals. Unless she's being slut shamed by men and then she is morally right and just and you are wrong.

proteios1 · 2012-11-13T03:09:37+00:00

The part we don't hear is that the failure of feminism is why we have all these things. Are women LESS objectified than 'before' feminism. No. Are women LESS likely to be single mothers than 'before' feminism. No. Keep going. Anyone not in denial sees that since feminism, the women's movement has gone backwards. Sad.

loose-dendrite · 2012-11-13T04:02:38+00:00

Number 6 rests entirely on anti-sex beliefs being her default. She didn't say shit about other jobs, which all have that attribute.

2012-11-13T04:19:17+00:00

The only reaction I can really manage to have for this is "What the Christ?!"

Mrsmo2 · 2012-11-13T09:14:27+00:00

I don't think a lot of people understand what feminism is.

giegerwasright · 2012-11-12T20:45:19+00:00

1) Makes absolutely no sense. How the fuck does that even make sense?

2) No. STD's should not he a fucking badge of honor. The are the result of lies and irresponsability. This chick has herp and she has a sad becase guys don't want to bang her and when she tried going lesbo they wouldn't have any of it either. The fuck? A badge of honor? Are you fucking kidding me? EDIT: She was trolling, but is probably still crazy.

3) Again. More desire to escape personal responsability. 16 year old chica knew what fucking condoms were for. 16 year old chica knew how to get condoms. 16 year old chica CHOSE not to use them. Fucking idiot.

4) You need feminism so that others can't have different political opinions than you? Fuck that.

5) Who the fuck is making you dance to those songs? What the fuck are you a slave at a Yakuza go go bar? If you don't like the fucking music, do what every sane rational person does GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

6) She believes that until she gets offered the right sum. Then the mental gymnastics start.

Femenists really are lost in their own naval gazing self justifying narcissism. We aren't going to move forward an inch as a society until they cut it the fuck out. And they won't cut it the fuck out.

Vwyx · 2012-11-12T23:31:01+00:00

Is it just me or does the dancing one seem legitimate?

rusty_chipmunk · 2012-11-12T20:53:55+00:00

here take a look at some more......

http://imgur.com/a/zmSHK

I need feminism because I love video games but am sick of the sexist portrayals of women in them

How about the sexist portrayals of men in them, you know big buff muscular men and stuff like that...

"I need feminism because I contribute to rape culture without knowing it"

Give me a fucking break.

Papasmurf143 · 2012-11-13T05:05:48+00:00

Two of them need condoms. Not feminism

DuchessofYanks · 2012-11-13T12:08:32+00:00

That last one really pissed me off. So every single woman on the face of the earth condones forced sex work if she condones consensual sex work? Fem logic.

pauldustllah · 2012-11-12T19:35:08+00:00

I need feminism because, I need a daily reminder to smash my head into a wall.

actanonverba8 · 2012-11-13T00:12:47+00:00

Let me translate what that female was saying:

"I need feminism because there are still a few males who dare question female hegemony and supremacy"

Knight_of_Malta · 2012-11-12T20:34:16+00:00

OMFG THOSE ARE REAL

FFFaux · 2012-11-12T23:35:47+00:00

These are satirical right? I mean the first and second have to be, and the rest are too...right?

Pecanpig · 2012-11-12T23:47:30+00:00

That last one actually makes allot of sense depending on how you look at it.

mrdrsmashington123 · 2012-11-12T23:54:29+00:00

You rage you lose thread?

massaikosis · 2012-11-12T23:59:55+00:00

none of those made any fucking sense haha!

koeselitzz · 2012-11-13T00:20:12+00:00

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=245209575607662&set=a.245207875607832.56535.145767228885231&type=1&theater

NativeKing · 2012-11-13T00:25:00+00:00

the last two weren't that bad, just need better wording like "I need gender equality because I am tired of dancing to songs that degrade me and demonize men every time I go out," and "I need gender equality because I believe that both sexes can get a bad name from a few bad people of the same sex."

iAmJimmyHoffa · 2012-11-13T00:33:56+00:00

Number 5 is so stupid.

vicedets · 2012-11-13T01:18:18+00:00

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/173/576/Wat8.jpg?1315930535

How I feel about this post.

adomorn · 2012-11-13T01:24:43+00:00

Post this in /r/feminism

Edit: apparently I'm wrong, one of the pictures is doctored. We don't need that

Luriker · 2012-11-13T02:07:29+00:00

Can I hear the argument against number 6? Is it just worded in one of those ways that's drawing an illogical conclusion? I mean to a certain degree it is, in that it assumes there's a male hivemind, and that by perusing prostitutes, human trafficking is promoted, but there is a link, no?

Tay1991 · 2012-11-13T02:19:49+00:00

This crap, is why I no longer consider myself a feminist.

DuckSir · 2012-11-13T03:56:08+00:00

Yup, feminism is sirius biznus

wnoise · 2012-11-13T07:50:06+00:00

♩ One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just isn't the same. ♩

Heterohabilis · 2012-11-13T09:25:26+00:00

The mind boggles.....

capitanestevan · 2012-11-14T02:17:42+00:00

Wat

avantvernacular · 2013-03-07T14:31:55+00:00

1. What is so bad about this question? Why would a men's center be a bad thing?
2. An STD is a disease. Why would it be a badge of honor?
3. Our actions have consequences, don't have unprotected sex at 16 if you don't want to be a mother.
4. People get to vote for other people then you. Democracy.
5. Don't go out to places that play music that offends you. No one forces you to go.
6. Being forced into sex work IS wrong. Choosing it is not. I highly doubt most strippers feel people should be forced to be strippers.

2012-11-12T19:42:38+00:00

Wait these are legit reasons ? man i thought these were fake for lulz sake.

Btw for #6: not every woman is forced to be a stripper or sell sex. Alot do it cause its good money and they don't want to do anything else. Yes i know there is alot of girls out there that are forced to do it but the majority just loves doing it.

alphabetpal · 2012-11-12T19:30:35+00:00

Yep, that WAS rage-inducing, alright.

sibqm_lmvm · 2012-11-12T20:53:09+00:00

So people are holding women at gunpoint and making them dance to degrading music? TIL....

ustael · 2012-11-12T19:30:56+00:00

WHAT?!?!

Mnemniopsis · 2012-11-12T20:46:00+00:00

I agree with 3.

aokna2736 · 2012-11-12T23:58:52+00:00

I don't understand how number 3 isn't a legitimate point.

DroppaMaPants · 2012-11-13T12:51:30+00:00

Those particular women's signs say absolutely the most mind numbingly stupid things. That being said the std chick was hot.

namrettik · 2012-11-12T20:17:23+00:00

I have an issue with #1. The women's center is there for yearly gynecological exams as well as yeast infections and other health issues that only affect women. Considering wait times for these appointments often need to be weeks, if not months, in advance suggests that it's not that bad of an idea to have it separated from general practice.

What, out of pure admitted ignorance on the topic, would a men's center be necessary for?

Dranosh · 2012-11-12T23:16:23+00:00

I like the "i wasn't ready to be a parent at 16" oh boo fucking hoo, you had sex, you got pregnant.... That's like repeatedly hitting your skull with a hammer and bitching about brain damage.

Sex is not "entertainment", if you don't want to get pregnant don't have sex!!oh, but according to society today self-control is so "ancient" and apparently you can't live without having sex.

God, please help this sick society

MangoFox · 2012-11-13T01:24:30+00:00

To everyone who thinks these are real feminists

CloverFuchs · 2012-11-12T22:19:06+00:00

I think the 4th one is fair. The others are all a bit silly.

man_and_machine · 2012-11-12T22:12:22+00:00

at least 5 and 6 are reasonable. well, mostly reasonable.

the fact that people think the first 4 is why we need men's rights.

also, I'm pretty sure most of these were shopped, and they aren't real.

seal_raider · 2012-11-12T22:12:44+00:00

STDs should be a badge of honor? What the heck is going on here. I always thought of STDs as being nature's way of saying "dumbass, zip it up you incredible fool."

rusty890 · 2012-11-13T00:42:54+00:00

7.) I need feminism because there is great power in victimhood.

2012-11-13T00:37:18+00:00

Ouch, my brain hurts, make them stop being so stupid.

Pharmakoza · 2012-11-13T01:08:35+00:00

That feeling when you see a pretty girl and then learn she's dumb as a sack of rocks.

rzm61 · 2012-11-13T13:00:18+00:00

What?

What?!

My brain is full of fuck for it being this early. This has to be a joke. Right?

LnRon · 2012-11-13T06:08:20+00:00

I thought the STDs as honorary badge was actually pretty good one. Its provocative but it got me thinking. Without feminism women cant go around having sex with everyone because the only thing they basically have going for them is their sexuality, if they just give it up easily, then they dont get anything in life. Feminism tries to open other possibilities for women, like getting a well paid job. After that women can go fuck whoever they want.

starfocks4 · 2012-11-12T23:10:17+00:00

Havin a laugh

Futhermucker · 2012-11-12T23:15:56+00:00

lookaboveyou · 2012-11-12T23:49:30+00:00

I need masculanism because the women always win arguments in sitcoms

Jazzeki · 2012-11-12T18:45:52+00:00

sure we can revoke all your rights and responsibilties if you want girls. if you want to be treated like a 2 year old i'm fine with that. now get back in the kitchen... wait i need 5 minutes to remove all the sharp objects.

Faryshta · 2012-11-12T22:36:46+00:00

According to the last girl logic.

If I get paid to pick cotton then I am condoning slavery.

Capitalsman · 2012-11-12T23:19:53+00:00

They need feminism because they are to stupid to realize that choosing to do stupid shit and blaming men isn't a real excuse

SCCROW · 2012-11-12T23:26:21+00:00

Well, my thoughts on this are as follows:

I'd do the second and fifth ones.

The others - their signs should have read, "I need feminism, because I need a piece of paper to hide my fugly face behind".

/sarcasm.

Yes, I am in a cranky mood.

TruthBeTold7 · 2012-11-13T00:02:50+00:00

This is a Perfect example of just how pathetic most women have become.

this is what happens when men allow women to act like pathetic children for all of human history... never telling them to grow up and babying them instead... we get sexist pathetic women who are not able to use even small amounts of logic in male - female matters

we really need to teach little girls young to learn to use self controle and logic... as it is clear that they dont devolped this abbility on there own like men do... so we will have to teach women how to grow up our selves then.

obviously not all women are like this.

but most females are just as pathetic as the women we see in these images.. and thats what matters.

Why we need feminism

Comments

5 is valid. A lot of music, especially rap, is deeply misogynist - sometimes when people go out to dance, they just want to go out and dance, they don't want to have to make a big deal out of it and leave the dance floor to make a political statement because a hate-song has come on.

1 is trying to say "well men will get their men's centres if enough take our bullshit, feminism is all about equality and teh menz will get their centrez soon".

6: Because any woman who makes a small fortune dancing in a strip club is degrading to me because we both have the same genitals. Unless she's being slut shamed by men and then she is morally right and just and you are wrong.

Title	Why we need feminism
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