Men’s sexual desire has been socially castrated

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2025-03-26T21:08:40+00:00

I'm old enough to remember how my friends and I rolled our eyes when a dude, usually totally unprompted, informed us or the whole room/table of his sexual preferences, often denigrating the women who didn't fit his standards in the process. Social media has just allowed the eye-rolling to be virtual and shared with many more people. Us having opinions on what you choose to share with the world isn't a new thing. Men complaining about women also isn't a new thing, y'all just have podcasts now.

Wanting to have sex is perfectly normal. Having preferences is normal. Being called out by randos online for your opinions (regardless of how innocuous they are) is also normal. But I don't understand why everyone needs to know everyone's preferences. Why must we be informed that you want a 6-foot business bro or a big titted goth girlfriend? Have some inside thoughts occasionally, damn...

Kookerpea · 2025-03-26T20:46:40+00:00

So much of advertising and media is based on male sexual desire

HODL_monk · 2025-03-26T23:21:39+00:00

Men's desires have been at the forefront, and the default, for millennia. You are just too young to see a time before the pendulum swung its current way. When I was young, mainstream movies had this rather silly thing, it was called a 'shower scene', and a young, physically attractive women, who was a main character in the movie, would just randomly undress and take a shower in front of the camera, and you got to check out her goodies, for no plot reason. I saw a few of these as a kid, and even then, although I enjoyed them, I also realized they made no sense in the movie, except to indulge men's sexual desire. Although I detest strip clubs, there is no other way to look at them except as a business purely devoted to indulging men's sexual desire. Back in the day, pron was also more socially acceptable, and many men I knew had it, and were willing to share it with others who were too young to buy it, and that was socially acceptable, to some extent. My friend's parents even bought pron for him, so they could make sure he only had access to the tamer stuff. This was back before the internet, when you couldn't just click that you were 18 and watch the most depraved sh!t imaginable, like you can now. If you looked around a little, you would see that some of that time is still with us, just toned down a little. Although the actual movie was hot garbage, and the young women in Madam Web dressed pretty conservatively in the movie, for the most part, if you watched the red carpet event, they were letting it all hang out, in a way the actual movie never did. Yes, our media and fantasies are censored, but the male desire is always there, under the surface, and it pops out every so often, if you look for it. In reality, both genders are now more open about what they want, and that is fine, and there is no double standard, you are just looking in the wrong place for such things.

SnooMarzipans8221 · 2025-03-27T00:04:36+00:00

Men's prominent sexual preferences are the reason why the advertisement mantra "sex sells" exists.

Prostitution being one of the oldest professions worldwide is also a result of having such a robust demand from the market predominantly composed of men as patrons.

Just looking back into history is going to disprove everything you wrote here.

A justified pushback from the women, who rightfully so, do not want to be sexualized is not really going to make a big change that's going to be substantial enough (unfortunately).

G4M35 · 2025-03-26T19:42:20+00:00

Expressing any urge to have sex is viewed by women as a pest. The average woman is eons more misandrist than the average man is misogynistic.

You need to listen to more hip-hop music.

fakingandnotmakingit · 2025-03-26T22:46:01+00:00

Oh my god.

One tiktok trend vs....

How many songs do we have about women's asses? Tits? Performing oral on a man?

And women are supposed to be the sensitive irrational gender?

Lol

leosandlattes · 2025-03-26T19:37:10+00:00

Men are demonized for wanting sex when they go out and act like sex pests. No one has a problem with men saying he likes big boobs or a small waist or long hair, and plenty of men do.

I have never had a problem with men who say they view sex as a necessary part of romantic intimacy with a partner. I have a problem when men catcall, make lewd commentary, grab me randomly to dance at the club, etc.

Tylikcat · 2025-03-26T19:56:13+00:00

Y'know, that 666 stuff has been a redpill mantra, and doesn't reflect women as a whole.

Men (especially chronically single men) complain about women's standards all the time. Women complain about men's standards. I'm really not seeing a the systemic problem you describe.

Clementinequeen95 · 2025-03-26T21:44:41+00:00

Men aren’t villianized for sex there’s literally an entire billion dollar industry that caters to them

Goddessworshipper13 · 2025-03-26T19:31:22+00:00

This argument sounds like it was made by someone who is chronically online and gets their dating opinions from tiktok interviews outside of clubs in Miami at 2am. Most women who are in happy relationships aren't dating your 666 types of men (because statically there aren't many of them). Most women IRL are willing to date men who are "below" superficial traits for traits like honesty, commitment, emotional intelligence and fidelity. Your average man isn't getting attacked for having preferences in their romantic partners.

Solondthewookiee · 2025-03-26T19:36:42+00:00

It’s gotten to the point where men are demonised for expressing they want sex at all

Sorry, are you saying women not only have no idea what men find attractive, but don't even know that most men want sex at all?

Lift_and_Lurk · 2025-03-26T19:34:57+00:00

It’s crazy cause just this weekend my training partner and I waited for all the girls in their LuLu lemons to walk by after there yoga class, then we headed to the sports bar, where we watched the March madness with cheerleaders from dozens of schools showcased going into and out of every commercial, while a top heavy waitress in short shorts brought us our beers and wings. then during halftime, they were playing some hip hop and on came a song about liking girls butts, then WAP.
On our way out, we spotted a VS angels billboard and I headed home and he headed with the young bucks out to the strip club.

“it must be so hard to be a young man who likes looking at women nowadays.”

ExcitementLow4699 · 2025-03-26T19:30:14+00:00

Villifying age and body type standards are dumb, I agree... But promiscuity standards aren't usually shamed; it's everything that comes along with it-- believing that sex is done to women, that it "soils," "dirties" or degrades them in some way, that only "broken" women are promiscuous, that promiscuous women inherently have character flaws, that that it's not okay for women to enjoy it, that they "belong" to their future husbands and are disrespecting them by having sex with other men before even meeting them... All that is icky and deserving of shame. It's exceedingly rare for men to have a promiscuity standard without having those beliefs.

The one exception is if the man believes sex is a sacred, special, loving act meant to be had with only those you really love and want to be with, and his actions embody that, and he's looking for someone else who feels the same way about sex and intimacy. (No double standards or promiscuity on his part)

physicsmajor12 · 2025-03-26T22:25:08+00:00

The majority of this sub is so chronically online it hurts to watch. I can't complain too much though, I like reading the debates on here for the drama, and I can't separate myself from the zoo if I willingly come here.

But seriously, get off social media and please interact with people in real life. I can assure you most women don't demonise male sexuality, unless it's directed at someone who's unwilling to interact with it.

ZoneLow6872 · 2025-03-26T20:16:21+00:00

Those things listed have NEVER been women's mantra. Do you even know women irl?

SnowyCherryBlossoms · 2025-03-26T20:28:07+00:00

Women can and always have expressed their desires and men haven’t batted an eye lid. 6 figures, 6 feet, 6 pack etc. have always been women’s mantra.

Men kvetch about this NONSTOP here, YouTube comments, at PPB and they’ll tell women that those women are lying if we dare point out that most girls don’t have those standards because some hag on TikTok said it. I mean every day we get a post here about how we need to drop these standards

mRecently a global song was trending with the chorus being “I want a man in finance, 6’5, blue eyes”. Men unfortunately haven’t been as fortunate.

Are you kidding me? I’ve listened to songs where men talk about women licking the sweat of their …, beating women, treating them as disposable c dumpster. I’ve listened to songs about fat bottomed women and loving big butts. Does that mean it’s ALL MEN? Like do you understand how detached from reality you sound???

At every turn men’s standards are villainised by women. Age standards - villainised. Body type standard - villainised. Promiscuity standard - villainised.

You mean how men call women used up? Or land whales or hit the wall or complain nonstop about 6/6/6.

Here’s the deal - have your low n count standards, but see if you can restrain yourself from calling women wh*res while you are at it?

It’s gotten to the point where men are demonised for expressing they want sex at all. As if that isn’t something all our forefathers desired.

I want sex. I don’t post endless screeds online about how men are horrible people for not giving me sex. I also don’t walk up to random men and ask to f- them, especially if they have wedding rings. The problem isn’t the desire. The problem is the rage at women for not giving you what you want.

Expressing any urge to have sex is viewed by women as a pest. The average woman is eons more misandrist than the average man is misogynistic.

So if I come up to you and say hey baby I wanna peg you until you scream, you wouldn’t consider me a pest? Leave people alone. Most people think panhandlers are f- annoying too.

fiftypoundpuppy · 2025-03-26T20:13:15+00:00

Women can and always have expressed their desires and men haven’t batted an eye lid. 6 figures, 6 feet, 6 pack etc. have always been women’s mantra. Recently a global song was trending with the chorus being “I want a man in finance, 6’5, blue eyes”.

Wait I'm confused.

Are we constantly lying about the importance of looks and gaslighting men into thinking looks don't matter

Or have we always expressed our preferences in an absurdly specific level of detail

Unkown64637 · 2025-03-26T21:35:33+00:00

This is so bizarre because your post lists traits that women find attractive, but when it comes to men, you just say, “It’s gotten to the point where men are demonized for expressing that they want sex at all.”

My question is, how does simply stating that you want sex relate to a conversation about the traits and characteristics people look for in a partner? Those seem like two separate topics.

My second question is, why are men expressing that they want sex? Like, to whom? For what reason? In what context? You’re not talking about traits, characteristics, or what you’re looking for in a person. You’re just saying you want sex. But we already know men want sex. So what exactly is the point of saying it?

I hear men discuss the traits they want in a partner all the time, just like women do, and there’s usually a back-and-forth about whether those expectations are realistic. But if a man just randomly expresses to women that he wants sex, I can see why that wouldn’t go over well because what are we supposed to do with that information other than sleep with you?

It’s like if I went around telling men, “Damn, I really want money from a man 👀👀🥺🥺.” How do you think men would react? And then imagine me getting defensive and saying, “What, I can’t even express that I want money at all?”

At the end of the day, there’s a difference between discussing what you want in a partner and just stating a desire with no context. One invites conversation, while the other comes across as self-serving and out of place. If men feel like their expressions of wanting sex are being “demonized,” maybe the issue isn’t that they’re saying it but how, when, and to whom they’re saying it.

False-Purple3882 · 2025-03-27T01:31:15+00:00

To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and love they desire… those are, overwhelmingly, other men. In their relations with women, what passes for respect is kindness, generosity or paternalism; what passes for honor is removal to the pedestal. From women they want devotion, service and sex. Heterosexual male culture is homoerotic; it is man-loving.

Routine-Present-3676 · 2025-03-26T23:46:41+00:00

No one gives a fuck about your sexual desires if you KEEP THEM TO YOURSELF. Bro is really out here comparing society asking him to not sexually harass others to castration. 🤡

False-Purple3882 · 2025-03-27T01:29:33+00:00

women can and have always expressed their desires

This isn’t factually correct. Historically women weren’t allowed to, present day men complain about it and shame women out of doing it. That ‘song’ you’re manipulatively referencing was literally meant as a joke, nothing more.

men’s standards are villainized

Where exactly?

Late_Notice02 · 2025-03-26T19:30:54+00:00

Women can and always have expressed their desires and men haven’t batted an eye lid. 6 figures, 6 feet, 6 pack etc. have always been women’s mantra.

There's an army of content creators, podcasts, and influencers with entire careers built on demonizing women's standards. Women are allowed to express their desires among other women. Men are allowed to express their desires among other men. But crossing those two will inevitably piss someone off.

Feeling excluded or judged from people's standards is a common reaction and content creators farm engagement from this common feeling of alienation and insecurity.

Have you seen a woman's TikTok feed? It's a constant flow of slop trying to make women feel insecure because they're too fat, too skinny, too flat, too bossy, too broke, can't cook, too rich, infertile, a single mother, etc.

No one is exempt from this.

spanglesandbambi · 2025-03-26T19:40:09+00:00

Please explain to me how this stops men from actually sharing their preferences?

Have any bills been passed to stop them?

Artistic_Speech_1965 · 2025-03-26T21:28:54+00:00

Seem like a double standard rethoric. Those preferences women have are also demonized. In fact, any preference or opinion in internet is demonized

Sophiatab · 2025-03-26T21:32:34+00:00

Women can and always have expressed their desires

Bullshit. Throughout history women have been murdered for expressing their sexual desires and preferences. It happens in many communities in the modern West today. And even in some of the most liberal communities in the West, women are shunned for having sexual practices outside conventional norms.

At every turn men’s standards are villainised by women. Age standards - villainised. Body type standard - villainised. Promiscuity standard - villainised.

Age standards - when a man advocates raping children or taking advantage of an immature person he is villain,
Body type standard - men do this and have done this to women since time began. When men complain about being treated exactly the way they treat women they are villains, whiny cry-baby villains. Promiscuity standard - ditto.

It’s gotten to the point where men are demonised for expressing they want sex at all. As if that isn’t something all our forefathers desired and got.

More bullshit. For most of the history of Christianity, men were demonized for expressing they wanted sex though it was far less demonizing than what the woman got. Your forefathers desired sex, most humans do, but they got damn less than the current generation (lack of opportunity and lack of birth control were responsible for that) and their sexual activities were vastly more prescribed and far more condemned.

Blue__Ronin · 2025-03-27T03:12:21+00:00

Women can and always have expressed their desires and men haven’t batted an eye lid. 6 figures, 6 feet, 6 pack etc. have always been women’s mantra.

dude, people call women who have sexual desires "wh*res" and "Sl*ts. Meanwhile gooner culture literally is at its strongest, while porn culture/player culture persists.

At every turn men’s standards are villainised by women. Age standards - villainised. Body type standard - villainised. Promiscuity standard - villainised.

Men are saying women expire at 25 and that only young women that look 18 are attractive. god forbid they actually fight back.

Men have been shaming women for their bodies claiming they are fat if they aren't 2000s runway model skinny. they are allowed to fight back

A vast amount of men are saying women have to be virgins to be datable. They hate this because women should be allowed to sleep with who they want and not be judged, just like men.

It’s gotten to the point where men are demonised for expressing they want sex at all. As if that isn’t something all our forefathers desired and got.

Your forfathers were degenerates who mostly devalued the idea of the dick by giving it to anyone.

Expressing any urge to have sex is viewed by women as a pest. The average woman is eons more misandrist than the average man is misogynistic.

Lmao, bless your heart

behappyfor · 2025-03-26T19:40:52+00:00

And you think women's are not? Women are called 304, slu t, that they shouldn't have high body counts etc Crazy how men hate women wanting to sleep around and have s x with men but then cry about women not sleeping with them and being selective And no most women are NOT sleeping with Chads, heck most women are not even on those dating hookup apps compared to men

sammyb1122 · 2025-03-26T21:12:09+00:00

This is a pretty biased take. Men for decades have had songs expressing their sexual desires and no one batted an eyelid. Take R Kelly for example. No one batted an eyelid until he, you know, imprisoned women.

I do agree that SOME women find men's higher libido disgusting and repugnant, but I think it's a small minority. Whenever I see them online I try to point out that we have different hormones. But it never excuses making a woman feel uncomfortable let alone rape.

Vikklee · 2025-03-26T19:35:36+00:00

Outside of TikTok, women don’t actually think like that. There will always be bad apples in both genders who have unrealistic standards and are assholes about it. As a woman, I think women who uphold the 6’5 millionaire standard are silly and childish (not that I’ve ever met one irl, because they don’t really exist). Men are “villainized” for their unrealistic standards because a lot of them in real life actually uphold these standards. My uncle is one of those men. He himself is a bald, overweight, gamer who doesn’t have a very appealing personality, but his standards are a hot, young blonde, with huge boobs and blue eyes. Both standards are silly and unrealistic but the men’s version is actually upheld and NOT frowned upon. If a guy says he wants a hot supermodel, nobody bats an eye because “that’s just guys”. If a woman has the male equivalent to the blonde supermodel as her standard, she is called silly and immature. Of course, there are always exceptions to these examples, but this is just what I have observed.

FateMeetsLuck · 2025-03-26T20:09:05+00:00

Notice how the concept of consent is completely absent here. That right there pretty much explains the why of it. There are far more pressing matters in the world than too many males trying to procreate, such as there being too many children forced into existence because of horny men, just for the kids to die from poverty or even genocide, or for the dad to abandon it and the mom. If society doesn't give a fuck about that, why should it give a fuck about the most genetically unfit male specimens wanting to infect random women with their seed? (I say this as a genetically unfit male who refuses to even try to date due to my antinatalist convictions and disgust with humanity overall.) Humans will either learn self-control in matters of sexuality, or watch their civilization go up in flames.

LillthOfBabylon · 2025-03-26T20:49:37+00:00

At every turn men’s standards are villainised by women. Age standards - villainised

Wanting a freshly 18 year old is creepy and implies those men would go younger if they could get away with it. And many men have.

It’s gotten to the point where men are demonised for expressing they want sex at all

When they do it in a way thats creepy, yes.

Veloziraptor8311 · 2025-03-26T20:18:50+00:00

You’re just hanging out I. The wrong circles. IRL or Online.

GloeSticc · 2025-03-27T01:58:47+00:00

Of course. Most men could potentially physically overpower women, and it's been demonstrated that men would be more likely to sexually assault women than the other way around. There needs to be some sacrifices if we all want to live together peacefully.

EsotericRonin · 2025-03-27T04:10:21+00:00

Oh my god.

One tiktok trend vs....

How many songs do we have about women's asses? Tits? Performing oral on a man?

And women are supposed to be the sensitive irrational gender?

Lol

QFT. Overreacting to tiktok is crazy. No one is demonizing you for that.

NarwhalsInTheLibrary · 2025-03-27T05:13:24+00:00

"I like big butts and I cannot lie!"

hmmm

Sphinx1176 · 2025-03-26T19:51:12+00:00

You don’t know much about history, Do you?

alwaysright0 · 2025-03-26T19:45:45+00:00

Men whine constantly about women having standards, you're doing it now

Men having standards haven't been demonised.

Being creeps who prey on teenage girls hopefully has and being hypocrites who judge women for liking sex hopefully has.

Junior_Ad_3086 · 2025-03-26T21:00:01+00:00

women use shaming to try and control male behavior on a macro level and men without standards or with very liberal world views often tag along for various reasons. but honestly, who cares? the opinions of women i don't want to be with and men i don't want to be like don't matter to me in the slightest. this stuff is extremely transparent and i've never had people i genuinely respect give me any shit for stuff like this. men who get shamed out of their preferences and into compliance are weaklings.

Pro-IDGAF · 2025-03-26T21:15:59+00:00

i want a girl with a short skirt and a long jacket. thats all i ask for.

now all women are like your post though.

nonquitt · 2025-03-26T22:09:28+00:00

Have you ever listened to a song or watched a movie or tv show or seen a commercial? The women’s body image movement is basically the incel movement for women and basically like every woman is impacted by it whereas only a small % of men are really that wrapped up in the “female gaze”

Edit: forgot about porn lmao

phoenixalot · 2025-03-26T22:52:25+00:00

The difference is male sexual desire is rooted in sex. Women’s sexual desire is rooted in admiration. It’s not the expression but the admission of reducing a person to a sex object that is instinctively frowned upon.

When a woman expresses her wishes, she setting the foundation for some sought of relationship. When a man expresses his, he’s setting the requirements for his arousal. It’s the epitome of superficiality.

ProtectionPolitics4 · 2025-03-27T02:07:55+00:00

The whole 6 figures 6 feet thing or whatever needs to go.

It's more like, 7/10 and funny.

Kind_Parsley_6284 · 2025-03-27T08:16:37+00:00

I think you’ve got it backwards. Male sexuality hasn’t been socially castrated it’s been overexposed, exaggerated, and reduced to a stereotype so predictable that it becomes easy to control.

From early on, men are bombarded with the idea that they’re supposed to be constantly horny, constantly chasing, and constantly proving their worth to women. That doesn’t empower us—it traps us. It turns us into cartoon characters: thirsty, sex-obsessed, and one-dimensional. And once you’re boxed into that identity, you’re easy to manipulate.

You’re not a threat—you’re a tool. Marketing exploits it. Dating apps exploit it. Social narratives exploit it. We’re taught that access to women is the end-all, be-all of male success, and that craving it is normal. But then we’re also shamed for wanting it. It’s not that men are “not allowed” to be sexual—it’s that we’re expected to be sexual in the most dumbed-down, performative way possible. Constantly wanting sex, but only ever getting it on someone else’s terms. That’s not freedom, that’s being puppeted.

Meanwhile, female desire has room to be complex, expressive, even celebrated. But male desire is just assumed, then used against us. The issue isn’t that men can’t express standards or want sex it’s that we’ve been reduced to only that, and then blamed for it.

So no, men aren’t being neutered they’re being trained. Trained to be thirsty, emotionally stunted, easy to predict, and even easier to exploit.

GridReXX · 2025-03-27T14:33:06+00:00

I grew up on Hip Hop, Soul, Funk, Blues, and R&B so I literally have no fucking idea what you’re talking about by implying that men don’t express their preferences and sexual desires in music.

CatallaxyRanch · 2025-03-27T15:01:56+00:00

Oh for sure man

Artistic_Bumblebee17 · 2025-03-27T16:41:09+00:00

The finance thing was a joke, 99% of us aren’t getting one and that’s no everyone’s type

Sholnufff · 2025-03-26T20:40:22+00:00

Not going to cosign on this one...

If men's sexual desire was indeed castrated then:

No strip clubs No onlyfans No prostitution No sexual music videos like the video vixens you see in rap videos shaking ass as well as daisy duke wearing gals etc No sexual advertisements/boob joints like Twin Peaks

What has changed is the access in which men get laid so unless you are in the top 20% of finances, status, and how you talk game to ladies, you are going to be in drought.

FearlessSea4270 · 2025-03-26T19:39:43+00:00

6 figures, 6 feet, 6 pack etc. have always been women’s mantra.

No. wtf?

ThatBitchA · 2025-03-26T19:47:48+00:00

Strange, I get a called a slut and told I'll never find a "high value man" because of my sexual desire.

But sure, poor men and them being calling out for their sex pest behaviors or creepy standards.

Downtown_Cat_1745 · 2025-03-26T20:18:48+00:00

More than 60% of men between the ages of 25-54 are in a relationship, and the vast majority aren’t 6/6/6. My devoted husband is 5’7” and didn’t make 6 figures until he was over 40.

Present-Afternoon-70 · 2025-03-26T21:16:46+00:00

Women can and always have expressed their desires

Don't start with such a proveably incorrect statement.

At every turn men’s standards are villainised by women.

It's an over correction to be sure but it is because that used to be THE ONLY thing men cared about.

If you say things other than physical you can also say all the other things.

hugegayballs · 2025-03-27T04:28:37+00:00

Where do you guys even get these ideas? the incel brain needs to be studied. Truly fascinating.

Hosj_Karp · 2025-03-27T07:25:59+00:00

touch grass. this is not how the real world works. the internet is full of misandry, but the misogyny of the real world puts that to shame.

IHaveABigDuvet · 2025-03-27T16:13:28+00:00

Lol. Men also villanise women’s standards - especially the 6 feet and 6 figure part. Men won’t stop crying about not being a Chad with money.

The only difference is that men want to constantly cry about it where women move in silence.

We do not care if you do not want us. But don’t try and limit out freedoms and also just stfu. 🤣

ControversialDebator · 2025-03-27T17:59:34+00:00

Its not just that ,but the entirety of male sexuality has been demonized. There is basically nowhere that can cater to male sexuality without feminists screeching and calling it "Sexist" and "objectification" and its because they despise male sexuality. They hate Pornography because it appeals to men. They hate Video Games or Adverts that have sexy women in it even though mind you no women is actually being harmed. They hate anything that caters to men due to being under the "male gaze". Some feminists will even blatantly say that sexualization of men is ok but sexualization of women is not ,showing full well that they hate male sexuality. It was never about protecting women because a video game that has sexy women in it or men having standards never harmed any women.

catdog8020 · 2025-03-27T18:31:33+00:00

Yes, we are in the age of role reversal or Opposite Day. Women serial date multiple men, women are good and men are bad, woman being spinsters is acceptable while men who are single or bachelors are suspect, single parent females are applauded while male single parents are weird.

What you are seeing is the unfortunate consequence of feminism and liberalism on female behavior. Men used to be men but now woman act like men and men are becoming more withdrawn as a result of shaming and emasculation.

They wonder why Donald trump got elected as president and banning indoctrination books that encourages woman to be weird. Of course not all woman but there is a rise in single woman choosing to be spinsters

MarioWilson122 · 2025-03-26T20:11:14+00:00

Well society makes it socially acceptable for women to push back on mens standards while its seen as wrong and misogynistic to push back on women regarding anything.

Since thats the case most men are afraid of saying anything about womens standards and pretend to be accepting of all women no matter the age,look or size inorder to not be demonized.

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Outside_Memory5703 · 2025-03-26T20:16:11+00:00

I’m afraid there has never been a society/culture or time where you’re allowed to do or say whatever you want to women.

Perhaps you have also forgotten who the puritans and Victorians were

throwaway917293 · 2025-03-26T21:06:07+00:00

The truth is that you can have standards and also voice them but women will not take it lightly if a man does it who, in their opinion, is unattractive.

Senpai2Savage · 2025-03-26T21:22:12+00:00

I mean, none of that matters if you just don't care to begin with. I mean, unless their going to bounce on it, who cares if they were never even on your radar in the first place.

tonga778 · 2025-03-27T15:06:07+00:00

People know men want sex hence why onlyfans makes a millionaire everyday

Reasonable_Style8214 · 2025-03-27T17:33:51+00:00

Looking at the title I was expecting something different - which is that society promotes female reproductive strategy (monogamy) and shames men for trying to indulge in their biological urge to be polygamous, that would've been a much better point imo.

Lovaloo · 2025-03-27T19:40:03+00:00

While we're grossly generalizing, I sure am sick of reading about all of this global sex trafficking and pedophilia.

Legate_Retardicus84 · 2025-03-26T19:59:37+00:00

Pretty much. It is usually just unattractive women that have a problem with that in my experience.

Mountain_Sand3135 · 2025-03-26T20:21:26+00:00

unfortunately, all of that is true. What men want is of NO CONCERN to women, we serve as always, the responsible party for everything bad!

If we simply just did what women say at all times OUR lives would be better because they know everything.

QUESTION - if you folks believe that women should be equal to men then WHY do you ask for traditional considerations from men?

What traditional items CAN A MAN ASK/EXPECT from ladies? Anything

Melodic_Structure928 · 2025-03-27T10:22:59+00:00

Yep agreed. If we’re following the logic of you can’t negotiate attraction that many women like to bring up when it comes to whatever standards they view as important to them. (Which I agree with) Then by the same logic men should also be fair to choose whatever standard they want.

WanabeInflatable · 2025-03-26T20:11:53+00:00

Yes.

This is unfair and being in relationships is often detrimental, as you are always wrong and always pay.

So why bother? Embrace it. Wanting woman is demonized, being with woman is quite often worse than being single.

For the desires of flesh there are toys, pron, paid sex. For socializing you can find male friends.

Men keep complaining how bad are double standards and relationships, why they don't just quit?

BigMoistTwonkie · 2025-03-26T20:13:30+00:00

The thing about the "6666" rule is that often times, it isn't that women want all of those things at the same exact time in one person, but that most women will have at least one of those things as a requirement and even one of those things is enough to write off large swaths of otherwise good men.

Most men are not six feet tall. It is less than 15% of men who are that height or taller.
Most men are not earning six figures. It is somewhere in the ballpark of 21-25%.
Most men are not in good enough shape to have six pack abs. Probably less than 10% if you don't count guys who are just insanely scrawny.
Most men do not have six inch long penises. Only around 15% of men have a six inch long penis or longer.

So having any one of those requirements, and you're eliminating a vast majority of men. If you require 2, 3, or all 4 of them, the chances of finding a guy like that get increasingly smaller.

A guy who is six feet tall, with a six inch penis, six pack abs, and a six figure salary, is probably less than 1%.

luckforeveryone · 2025-03-26T19:59:43+00:00

The only outcome of this will be more resentful men, leading to even more resentful women. The number of conservative men will increase. Marriage and birth rates will continue to fall. The odds of younger people going on to receive social security benefits will become zero.

Shit will really hit the fan once AI robopartners come to market. Or maybe not. Perhaps society will just have fewer humans with more robots to carry out human labor and replace human companionship.

Former_Range_1730 · 2025-03-26T20:03:47+00:00

That strongly depends on the demographic of people you're around. If you're around a particular demographic of women, they cherish men's sexual desire.

ExcelsiorState718 · 2025-03-27T01:52:52+00:00

Guess it depends on who your fordfathers where,Mine where probably slaves so who knows what they got,before that maybe they where warriors in the Congo.

In the west sexuality has always been shaned its a country founded on puritanical ideals In God We Trust, burn the wiches,make women go to the beach fully clothed.

I think it's just weird when someone's arrested for example wire fraud the news has to report on the porn collection found in their house or on their computer like it's illegal or had something to do with the crime.

Any way the main reason men's sexual desires have been castrated is because men are held to a higher standard women are basically seen as children and it's men that are expected to toe the line for decency and morality in society also its a minority of women complaining about age gaps and having all these demands,Autistic far left liberal women the same ones that protest everything with their titties out the bitter jaded left overs.

These women are a vocal minority concentrated in places like reddit,If there where so numerous Kamala would have won Trump even got the popular vote this time. Meanwhile thd women thatvare winning are getting their bag and their man not caring about what these lonely ran through women have to say.

~The White House press secretary, 27, and Riccio, 59, welcomed their son, Nicholas Robert Riccio, nicknamed “Niko,” in July 2024. Six months later, the two wed days before President Donald Trump's second inauguration in January 2025.~

BobtheArcher2018 · 2025-03-27T02:23:01+00:00

Male sexuality is always constrained and channeled. It's too dangerous, unstable and disruptive to not do that. What is different now is unrestrained female sexuality--even distorted--is being encouraged. But since women felt that female sexuality was even more repressed than male in the past, and unfairly so, it is sort of a natural pendulum overswing.

throwawaytradesman2 · 2025-03-27T10:50:47+00:00

Can you imagine a fat slob of a man being put on the cover of a magazine and everyone demand that he be recognized as handsome?

But, society expects that morbidly obese women be celebrated. I don't believe women should look "perfect". But, can't they just celebrate "average"? I love average women. Flat butt, small boobs, beautiful face, it. Big Boobs and nothing else? Love it. etc...

But, men aren't allowed to have any standards. We have take what we are given.

All of this shit just says to me that women are not allowed to be held accountable by men. But, other women will savagely berate a woman who is overweight.

Promiscuity standard? What's wrong with that? I don't shit on women for having the standard of a man being financially secure.

child0light · 2025-03-27T23:08:25+00:00

So? Express it anyway. And then listen to hip hop.

Zaichick · 2025-03-26T20:35:21+00:00

It really helps to leave the west and go to a culture that hasn’t vilified men and male sexuality while simultaneously pedestalizing women and female sexuality.

Eastern Europe and Asia both still enjoy the benefits of a robust patriarchy.

Once you experience that, you’ll never go back. Dating western women feels icky and transactional.

Next_Measurement_824 · 2025-03-27T00:03:21+00:00

Its because there are too many spoiled entitled woman and not enough woman who got smacked in the face and put in there place. Instead woman were encouraged to take advantage of everything and everyone and think men are nothing but stupid mindless slaves for them to do there bidding.

Hadal_Benthos · 2025-03-26T19:35:31+00:00

...and we should strive to close this gap. In whatever direction.

Tech-Explorer10 · 2025-03-26T19:57:16+00:00

Women will villainize men only if men let them. Men are at fault for not calling out their bluff.

If you tell a woman to scr@w off when she makes allegations and not be bothered, they will learn that they aren't special.

LoudPiece6914 · 2025-03-27T00:25:10+00:00

Men want to have sex. We need to stop apologizing for that. And stop validating arguments that ultimately mean only attractive men can express sexual interest. Or we could just normalize using matchmakers so people can be more effectively match with people who share their beliefs and values and the woman who don’t want to be talked to in public could point to a clear and effective alternative. Ultimately, any argument for change you make that doesn’t lead to men getting to have sex will eventually fail end with pissed off men.

PIF_Daddy · 2025-03-27T04:11:28+00:00

They can hate male preferences all they want.

They can't force us to date any one we don't want any more than we can force them.

I will NOT date:

-A Single-Mom

-A whale/super-obese woman

-A person with signifcant mental issues

-Anyone that has been in ANY sex industry.

-A person that cannot live within their financial means.

I am not even asking for much. Keep hatin'. Not datin'.

Title	Men’s sexual desire has been socially castrated
Author	BichonFriseLover
Upvotes	207
Comments	479
Date	March 26, 2025 7:22 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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