Weekly Community Chat Megathread

AutoModerator · 2021-06-07T20:00:13+00:00

This weekly thread is designed to be a place for all the funny discussions on PPD. Feel free to post off-topic questions, information, points-of-view, etc......

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I understand your wish and you are free to have this preference. I just want to shed light on where your family might be coming from: I refuse the idea that the first time a guy sticks his dick inside a woman is somehow changing her. I also don't say "losing virginity", I say "having sex for the first time". For some that might be the exact same thing, but I and many others don't think that women "lose" something just because they have intercourse, or that they are "damaged goods". And there is such a wide range between being a virgin and being an unreliable woman who is riddled by STIs and cheats at the first chance, which is why hardly anyone will accept the latter as a good argument for your preference. They will only see you as demanding an "undamaged" woman, which is kind of creepy. I wish you all the best, hope you find what you look for.

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Oh wow! You're good. Most ppl can't describe themselves that well.

Short chin, bulbous and wide nose, narrow bideltoid (bone), relatively short height, large forehead, round bug eyes, highset eyebrows, flat cheekbones, big lower lips, small upper lips, narrow mouth, fat cheeks at low bf%, ethnic, long nose, short mandible from the side, overbite.

Your nose is wide and bulbous and long?

Honestly, since I can't draw well nor place all of these things nor have no idea what your ethnicity is, I can't tell.

I hate the word "ugly." But looking sexually immature isn't as bad as looking deformed. There are ways to jazz that up.

Ron Isley looked sort of weird to me his whole life. His clean-shaven face just wasn't my vibe.

But at 80 years old he finally figured out that getting a beard made him look sexually attractive to a much wider net of women.

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" I never had problems getting women, therefore it is easy."

I had plenty of problems, I managed to figure it out. Did any of you guys even read the redpill and actually, idk, try it out?

What's wrong with his picture? First of all, he needs to lift, that's literally redpill 101, do any of you actually lift? Second of all, he needs better clothes, like something that fits his body and shows off a masculine physique, third he needs a better haircut. That's without getting into the problem of him taking a picture on his mom's couch with a derpy facial expression. Go outside, do you have friends? Get pictures of yourself getting out of the house and doing something. I don't even use tinder or dating apps, but it's obvious to anyone who knows how women are wired that his picture isn't lighting up any girl's brain with interest. Everything about his body language looks weak. How blind are you?

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You’re not picking her. She’s selecting against you unless you’re amazing in other ways. That’s how “ideals” work.

Doesn't matter. Either way, that one thing is not changing, and it sounds like a lot more men are doing what I do than not.

Women used to roundly and loudly hate video games until Modern Warfare roped in the cool and attractive guys, and now they have to suck it up because men will choose video games over them every time, or even pretend that they always liked video games/grrrl gamer "xDDD" or whatever they do. This is the same thing.

Many men prefer virgins but if the chick is hot and wonderful suddenly he’s making concessions on that ideal.

In the case of porn, I actually don't think he would. You can be an 11/10 and I can find someone hotter than you, who does things on camera that you wouldn't in private with the person you love the most and less trouble to access than you are pretty easily.

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Q4Men: I'm asking this in good faith because I actually have no idea what the answer will be.

Let's say you're dating a girl, it's going well, you have a good sex life etc. Then you find out that she did something in bed with an ex that she's never done with you. Here's the catch: this act is something that you have no interest in doing. (For the sake of this thought experiment let's say this is not something that involved multiple guys, so no MMF threesomes or gangbangs or anything. Just something you have no interest in, like pegging maybe.)

What's your response to this? Do you think it says something about her attraction to you that she did this with an ex but not with you, and if so, what does it say? Do you want to do it with her despite your lack of interest, so that you get the same treatment he got? Does it trigger a different reaction than finding out she did something with an ex that you do want to do, or does all "She did it in the past but not with me" behavior fall in the same category?

Plz respond

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What's your response to this? Do you think it says something about her attraction to you that she did this with an ex but not with you, and if so, what does it say? Do you want to do it with her despite your lack of interest, so that you get the same treatment he got? Does it trigger a different reaction than finding out she did something with an ex that you do want to do, or does all "She did it in the past but not with me" behavior fall in the same category?

How does she feel about the action?

If I have no desire to do it, I won't force myself but did she enjoy it? If her ex was the one that wanted to do it and not her, it doesn't mean as much. I would not want to do it just because. If I want to do it and she did it with someone else but not me, its more worrisome because that might mean she cared for the last guy more.

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He has to put in more effort lookmaxxing because I guess his face isn’t naturally an Adonis? So he really has to step out looking sharp. Great facial hair if he can. A stylish haircut and proper highlights. Stylish spectacles and sunglasses. Decent well fitting clothes.

Not every Chad was born fit, so he should get his fitness in because many Chads are also at the gym. I guess Chad here would be a guy who is taller than average and has a wider frame than average. But still. A 5’8 man with slimmer shoulders could still get in shape that is masculine and not scrawny.

Increasing his social circle and status. Join a professional networking thing. Get on the committee. Host HHs and events and parties. Now you control who gets and who doesn’t. This somehow always works lol. If you work for a big company this can be done easily by joining one of their thingies.

Get comfortable being the “fun” and sociable guy. And yah. It’s a numbers game for Chad too. But it’s really a numbers game for the average guy. It’s always a numbers game because women aren’t running to fuck casually. She’s being seduced into it and not every woman will say yes to Chad.

Get used to going out to all the bars, events, gatherings, clubs , street festivals etc. also it’s MUCH easier when it’s a crew of you and not just you scamming. It’s also best if your crew is sort of coed and looks chill. A guy walking over to me from a group of friends feels more comfortable than a guy walking over to me as a loner. But loners can pull too. In a lone wolf sense. Not a loner shy guy.

And finally get crisp on your skills of banter flirtations NLP push and pull playfulness etc. You’re curating sexual tension.

Finally I think many ppl dudes here call “Chads” are average guys who maxxed the above and are now imperceptible from a “natural” Chad.

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Ideally I think we want to have the options that the average woman has. Either that or for her to have the same options we do.

Again the economics aren’t in his favor. Women have a higher casual sex SMV and are constantly being hounded by all men to engage. She’s going to be seduced by some of them. Perhaps you can “feel better and like things are fair” in that she didn’t lock down Chad and that in general average and Chad men have wayyyyy more orgasms than women. Perhaps you can feel better that women get pregnant and have monthly periods.

And if a woman were to actually find herself in that position she wouldn't be any more thrilled about it than men are.

Yah. FDS is right there... I’m always shocked the guys here hate and/or are so unnerved by that sub as much as they are. It’s literally the female cognate of them.

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I’m always shocked the guys here hate and/or are so unnerved by that sub as much as they are. It’s literally the female cognate of them.

Well FDS hates us too.

It definitely is the closest female equivalent but from my perspective women are privileged with being the sexual selector so its extra annoying listening to complaints of the winning side.

Whatever insults they have towards men are more likely to land and have more weight. Whatever strategies, expectations FDS comes up with are far more likely to be fruitful than any of the ones the manosphere comes up with just by nature of women have far more bargaining power.

To me FDS is the winning side congregating to shit talk the losing side and strategize against those that already has far less influence and have to try harder to impress you than you do to impress them. Its insult to injury, its turning on cheats when you already have the game on easy mode.

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Did a woman say the quoted part? Just curious because women here seem to go back and forth between "average men get casual sex all the time" and "duh obviously we're only interested in casual sex with the hottest guys, youd do the same if only you were fortunate enough to have our options"

The result is more women partaking in casual sex with fewer men which results in the sex disparity we are seeing.

Other factor aside from women having more opportunities to explore their sexuality in their prime years is that every woman who ends up with a guy who is under 6ft, with a 5/10 face and average dick deep down knows he is a downgrade from the caliber of men she is used to having casual sex with.

So what to do?

just off the cuff..

Convince guys not to care and accept their place on the totem pole.
Sugar dating for casual sex. Ive never verified this but in theory Seeking Arangments could be the closest equivalent to tinder for guys. Just like an average woman can go on tinder and find a 6ft fit well endowed guy to fuck her brains out an average guy might be able to casually sleep with women more attractive than himself and gain experience with sugar dating on Seeking Arangements. Caveat is you need to be above average financially.
long term I think we should go the genetic engineering route or get cosmetic surgery to the point where we can control our appearances with similar precision to what you would find on a digital character creator. At the end of the day we are NOT equal, beauty is NOT in the eye of the beholder. Some traits are almost unanomously viewed as superior and others inferior so at some point it would be desirable to prevent people from inheriting the inferior traits or at least allow them a way of fixing/removing the inferior traits with surgery.

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Other factor aside from women having more opportunities to explore their sexuality in their prime years is that every woman who ends up with a guy who is under 6ft, with a 5/10 face and average dick deep down knows he is a downgrade from the caliber of men she is used to having casual sex with.

This is what I don’t understand. That woman who apparently only gets hot for 6 foot plus above average dicks and non average faces was going to feel “eh” about the man you described with or without prior sexual experience.

Why is there a belief that she would strongly desire or be madly in love with this man if she were a virgin?

(Also most women are with average dicks and are fine with it. Being pounded by super large dicks isn’t fun for a lot of women. A medium dick is FINE. In fact men with big dicks complain often they rarely get satisfying sex because most women can’t handle them balls deep for more than 2 secs.)

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This is what I don’t understand. That woman who apparently only gets hot for 6 foot plus above average dicks and non average faces was going to feel “eh” about the man you described with or without prior sexual experience. Why is there a belief that she would strongly desire or be madly in love with this man if she were a virgin?

That's not necessarily the belief. The belief is that she would be less disappointed with average than she would otherwise be. I agree that women will never have the same desire for an average man as she would for a tall well endowed handsome man regardless of whether she had them previously. However if a 5/10 girl had several flings with tall well endowed handsome men but then settles with a 5 I think she'll be more disappointed and more likely to cheat compared to a woman who only dated 5s.

Our perception is relative to what we have experienced and women always talk about how much of their attraction/lust is emotional rather than just looks so yes I think a woman that had several passionate fuckbuddy flings with 8/10 men will be more disappointed with a 5/10 than would a woman who didn't experience that.

Even if we just talk about the dick size component I have seen women on this site say something along the lines of "I never knew she was a size queen until I met my fiance" and "after I experienced a big one I really don't want to go back to average"* both of which implies to me that experiencing big made average less satisfying after the fact. Of course average was never going to get the same reactions as big but it could have been less disappointing.

The other part of the complaint is the unevenness of it i.e that a 5/10 woman can easily explore her sexuality with 7s and 8s while the 5/10 guy she will eventually settle down with likely didn't get to do the same to the same extent. She likely got higher quantity and higher quality of sexual partners. If 5/10 guys were able to sexually experiment with hot women with a similar ease to which women can sexually experiment with hot men it wouldn't be as much of a sore spot imo. Then when the two 5s pair off she views him as a downgrade compared to what she's had prior and he views her as a downgrade. Its more even and mutual.

(Also most women are with average dicks and are fine with it. Being pounded by super large dicks isn’t fun for a lot of women. A medium dick is FINE. In fact men with big dicks complain often they rarely get satisfying sex because most women can’t handle them balls deep for more than 2 secs.)

BigDickProblems is just humble bragging

Women's definition of average/medium is like 6.5 -7.5 inches and acording to FDS the average size preferred by its members was like 7.5 inches.

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Where are you getting that its the most popular size?

When women express preferences it is usually "greater than or over 6 inches" meaning 6 is the minimum acceptable not the ideal.

And I’m still not sure I agree with your first point. If I don’t find a man overly attractive despite being a virgin he doesn’t “disappoint” me he simply won’t arouse me that much.

Well I have seen women say as much about dick size i.e that they didn't know they were a size queen until after they had big so having big did make them view average as less satisfying. You don't think that is possible for this to be true?

I guess my perspective is that our scale is determined by our min and max experiences in any category. A person who was tortured will likely view average struggles and pains as less severe than if they had never been tortured.

Similarly a woman who had passionate wild flings with tall fit well endowed men will have that as the most satisfying maximum on her scale . I agree an average guy would never have triggered the same response but I do think having that extreme high does have the capacity to skew the scale and make average less satisfying or more disappointing or whatever word if any you think is more appropriate .

I think virgin obsessed guys think they won’t get dead bedroomed. And it’s like dude if you are unattractive she will db you or leave you or starfish you or cheat.

Nope, not what I think. If you're not genetically gifted infidelity and dead bedrooms are still a risk, but from an ego perspective it's better to be dead bedroomed or cheated on by a virgin than by a non-virgin.

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some sort of punishment they’re levying against the mother for not fucking them anymore

You know even roe v. wade has language to the effect of "we need abortion so the mother can avoid maternity or having more kids than she wants"

Lol but totally ok to impose such obligations or additional children on the father?

You see it the way you do because, like any sentient being would, and as all modern women have, you as a modern woman have become a glutton for the unearned advantages women are given. It's not enough to just have them...now, anyone outside the realm (ie men) who might want to share in said advantage must just be an OpPrEsSoR.

Every time I start wondering if expectantly looking forward to the abortion ban is misguided, I'm glad people (it's far from just you, you're just an example) say shit like this to remind me of what's at play here.

I should do like a 90% salary tithe to prolife causes!

You see, if you want an example of retribution based reasoning that actually exists, MY perspective is an actual one, not your made up fantasy that only women might possibly want or deserve to get out of parenthood for the actual reason itself of getting out of parenthood.

Even roe v. Wade recognized this desire.

For women at least 🤣

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Slow your roll

You know even roe v. wade has language to the effect of "we need abortion so the mother can avoid maternity or having more kids than she wants"

Right... because aborting a fetus means there’s no child to care for. Once you have the child though, the mother is now responsible to make sure it’s cared for. And she’s legally obligated to do so. Does the father have no responsibility too?

You do understand that your making a false comparison?

Lol but totally ok to impose such obligations or additional children on the father?

Expecting a man to care for a child he created is an imposition?

This is the problem with putting it in the context of abortion as birth control. Men have birth control options they can exercise. Abortion isn’t one of them because they don’t have the babies.

Put in the context of this exchange, which was about men being able to legally surrender their parental responsibilities, I pointed out that if you want what women who can get abortions want, then there is no child anymore. It’s not, I don’t have to pay but I get to show up on their 12th birthday and make myself feel better about abandoning them.

100% cut off from the child for life would be fair to me. After all, that would really be equality wouldn’t it?

the reality is men always have and always will “financially abort” even though it hasn’t been legal. 1/3 of American children have no contact with their biological father.

unearned advantages

Being born with a uterus is unearned advantages. K.

You’re born with the advantage of not getting pregnant is the first place.

It's not enough to just have them...now, anyone outside the realm (ie men) who might want to share in said advantage must just be an OpPrEsSoR.

Again it’s not like you don’t have birth control options. Yes accidents happen. But if the basis for this argument it “I should be able to fuck without protection and the walk away from any children i father,” I won’t go along with your contention that you’re a “victim.”

Every time I start wondering if expectantly looking forward to the abortion ban is misguided, I'm glad people (it's far from just you, you're just an example) say shit like this to remind me of what's at play here.

And you realize an abortion ban will do the exact opposite of what you want right? Every kid will be brought to term. Even more men who don’t want kids will

But whoever said this argument was actually about men, right? Seems to me it’s more about punishing women for having sex — hence why you got to triggered by my earlier comment.

retribution

Yep. What I just said.

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100% cut off from the child for life would be fair to me. After all, that would really be equality wouldn’t it?

the reality is men always have and always will “financially abort” even though it hasn’t been legal. 1/3 of American children have no contact with their biological father.

Great now women can have to break the law too, it's just as well right 🤷‍♂️

And you realize an abortion ban will do the exact opposite of what you want right? Every kid will be brought to term. Even more men who don’t want kids will

It'll be understood up front. When abortion is banned, the perception will match the reality, that once sex happens that's it, game over

Again it’s not like you don’t have birth control options. Yes accidents happen. But if the basis for this argument it “I should be able to fuck without protection and the walk away from any children i father,” I won’t go along with your contention that you’re a “victim.”

Either BOTH should be able to choose to fuck without protection and avoid Parenthood, or NEITHER should.

Yes of course an opt out should be paired with being cut off from the child. Every proponent of paper abortion says this.

Regardless, looks like society will be going with "neither"

And yeah, I'm fucking triggered 🤷‍♂️

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No the point is women don’t get ED stuff because she doesn’t have a penis.

Right. No problem = no treatment.

Still not sure what that has to do with legal rights.

And men don’t get BC stuff because he doesn’t have a uterus.

No, men don't get BC because it doesn't treat anything in men.

Still not sure what that has to do with legal rights.

And my point is Poppy’s. Are you going to complain about not having the right to get first dibs on flight tickets because you aren’t a Veteran?

I am a veteran, but nobody has a specific right to get first flight tickets. Those are privileges given by private companies being legally able to discriminate among their customers.

If you didn’t gestate the thing you don’t have claim on aborting the thing in the body.

Gate-keeping argument. Not valid.

If you didn’t join the military, you don’t have any of the special rights and privileges granted those who have.

Rights, no. Privileges, yes. Women didn't volunteer to be women though so I don't see why they should be afforded any special rights or privileges because vagina.

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And viagra doesn’t treat anything in women. Are you being purposefully obtuse here?

No, I'm wondering where you're going with this because it doesn't relate to the argument we were having.

When I said you can’t complain about other people’s debate style because yours isn’t ideal either this is what I meant.

Doesn't really account for miscommunication or bad/irrelevant examples.

And just because you said the argument isn’t valid doesn’t make it not valid.

I know. What makes it not valid is that you're adding a qualifier to the argument that someone would have to be born with to qualify for. "No vagina, no opinion" is not a valid argument.

Women didn’t volunteer to be women but they are gestating the organism.

So? Where's the argument that women solely decide what to do about that?

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One of my many PPD pet peeves.

Some of us are not gender warriors who are hell bent on proving the other gender is evil and ours is perfect.

Stop assuming that when I make a statement, that that is the unspoken point I am making. I am not.

when i say “a man who fucks without protection and then whines that he didn’t want a kid is irresponsible,” do not assume I mean that women who fuck without protection are not equally irresponsible.

When I say “1/3 of men have no biological contact with their children,” do not assume I mean that in 100% of cases it’s because the man doesn’t care.

When i say “quit whining that no one wants to date you and take action to fix your problems” to a man, don’t assume that I wouldn’t say (and haven’t said) the same thing to a woman who is bitching that all men are dogs.

Stop it. It’s annoying.

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Why would I believe a study where the criteria for sexual harassment includes non-contact unwanted sexual experiences, with no further definition of what that means, and of which you've admitted that leering is a part of??

That's ludicrous!

By that metric, every single person on the planet has been a victim of sexual harassment at some point in their life.

So far, every single "peer reviewed" study that I've looked at has massive flaws in their methodology and definitions. This one was no different.

The honest truth is that I don't know if men or women experience this more, and neither do you. Getting real, useful, unbiased numbers seems nigh impossible. My gut tells me that men and women have had at least a single incident of sexual harassment at similar rates, but women have a higher occurrence of sexual harassment. A man might experience sexual harassment 5 times throughout his life where a woman might experience it 30 times.

But, again, we'd need a solid definition of what we are including in sexual harassment in order to come up with any good statistics. We can't just leave it up to the person filling out the survey to decide for themselves what constitutes sexual harassment.

And, no, just because a man doesn't recognize that he is being sexually harassed doesn't mean he isn't.

Although you are right about using askmen as a source. That's worse than using your study. So I will apologize to you about that one.

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where the criteria for sexual harassment includes non-contact unwanted sexual experiences, with no further definition of what that means, and of which you've admitted that leering is a part of??

Again, you keep proving OP's point that there should be consent clases.

By that metric, every single person on the planet has been a victim of sexual harassment at some point in their life.

Again, the point of sexual harassment is that it's unwanted. The examples you bring about men not reporting being groped or leered by women as sexual harassment is, likely, because those men had those experiences in wanted and/or consented situations and fail to recognize that women may not want and/or consent to being done the same things by men that they do by women.

The honest truth is that I don't know if men or women experience this more, and neither do you. Getting real, useful, unbiased numbers seems nigh impossible. My gut tells me that men and women have had at least a single incident of sexual harassment at similar rates, but women have a higher occurrence of sexual harassment. A man might experience sexual harassment 5 times throughout his life where a woman might experience it 30 times.

Leaving aside your complete dismissal of scientific studies made with rigor, resources and work of several academics, even your gut ends up agreeing with my original point. That women are more likely to be victims of sexual harassment by men (unless lesbian sexual harassment is disproportionate compared to men-on-women and men-on-men sexual harassment and/or that women are disproportionately harassed in multiples occasions by the same perpetrator compared to men).

And even all of that doesn't matters since your initial claim was that I referred to sexual harassment as a crime done only by men when I literally clarified that sexual harassment isn't done only by men but also by woman but at a different extent according to absolutely every available statistic.

And, no, just because a man doesn't recognize that he is being sexually harassed doesn't mean he isn't.

I agree, but it also doesn't mean that if a single person considers a specific act harassment, it must be harassment for everyone, specially if wanting it and consent is involved. It is sexual harassment for a person to have sex with another that doesn't want to do it, it's not if both of the involved want to do it. It is sexual harassment for a person to grope another person that doesn't want to be groped, it's not if both want the groping to happen. The fact that so many men don't recognize being groped as sexual harassment but so many women do just means that most men either enjoy or are fine with being done that but most women don't, that's why many men don't recognize it being harassment (and that also doesn't mean that a man being unwantedly groped by a woman isn't harassment and shouldn't matter, it is harassment and it matters).

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On the first one, they aren’t equal procedures medically or socially. But you do have a point. If the issue is that a newborn or child can’t consent then female children are protected in way that male children aren’t. I’ll give you that one.

Remember though that the reason it is illegal here is to provide a safe haven for adult women who should be able to make the decision for themselves but are being forced to have it done can be protected by the law. Are circumcisions forced on adult males anywhere in the world?

We’ve already talked about the selective service one. I’m quite disappointed by yesterday’s SC ruling.

Re abortion refer to my other conversation cause I’m too tired to rehash.

You might be interested in this data, showing that in most cases, who gets custody is determined by the couple with no court intervention. https://erlichlegal.com/blog/single-fathers-single-mothers-child-custody-statistics/

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FGM can be more severe, but if you look at a venn diagram of the possible negative impacts of both procedures they would completely overlap. Both can result in death, loss of genital function, and loss in sensitivity. They should obviously both be illegal to do without concent, glad we agree there.

World male circumcision rate is estimated to be 37-39%. At 50.4% of the world population being male, that is a huge # of circumcisions. Most circumcisions occur at birth or before the age of majority, but I will be lenient and say only 50% of circumcisions were done without informed consent. The result is that 734 261 813.5 men had their genitals mutilated without consent. Not to mention, in islamic and jewish society, circumcision is a right of passage that is all but forced on men.

The global estimate for FGM is 125 million. This means that male genitals are being mutilated without consent at nearly 6X the rate of female genitals.

My point is not only are circumcisions forced on men through tradition and religion (just like FGM), but it is happening close to an order of magnitude more frequently. This is why just as many resources (if not more) should be put towards abolishing MGM as FGM.

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To piggyback off my comment the other day on fucking at work, Men and women kinda different. Dudes will openly admit to smashing coworkers, it’s almost like they wear it as a badge of honor. Women try to keep that shit on the DL. I remember working at this place and a dude I wasn’t even that cool with out of nowhere randomly during a sports discussion was like

“Yo you Magdeline who works in HR?”-Him

“Yeah why?”-Me

“Yeah We started fucking last week. Lol”-Him

I wish I could show you the look on this guys face, he was so excited. It’s like bro we not even friends lol, and the funny thing is I guarantee you Magdeline probably told him “don’t tell no one keep it between us”. I was talking to this one girl and she said one of the problems with fucking at work is a lot of dudes don’t know how to keep their mouths shut. It’s almost like they just can’t get pussy and be happy, they want everyone else to know their having sex too.

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I agree with you.

I don’t agree that “slut” = “she’s going to be a bad LTR partner,” but I do get that men don’t like the idea of committing to a woman who other men had sexual access to. Do I relate to that? No. But I get it's a male thing.

Anyway, your post made me think of this comment:

Because average guys had more realistic standards than they do now. When I give my male friends advice about online dating it is always this: if you would not approach that woman in a bar and expect to have a shot do not send her a message on online dating and expect her to respond to you.

Most men that follow that rule have a lot more success in online dating. Men say that women have higher standards and that's certainly part of it both parties do. But as someone who was in college prior to online dating and then did online dating, this is one of the major flaws I see that men have. If we were to go back to the 90s the average guy would not be approaching 90% of the women that he messages online expecting a response because he would know he would not stand a chance. But now he sees them, thinks he does have a chance, gets rejected and then feels like he does not stand a chance with anyone. Instead of messaging the women he actually does have a chance with.

I 100% agree with her.

The female flip-side of this is some women going on OLD and getting swiped on by a very attractive man who she knows has NEVER given her the time of day when she’s out with her friends. She’s the “ugly duckling” of the crew and is used to men giving her friends more attention and free drinks when they’re at bars and parties and clubs. But suddenly on OLD “Chad” is willing to fuck her. So she gets fucked and he ghosts. Deep inside she knew it was too good to be true but she did it anyway. Women in this situation should not fuck Chad until she can tell he’s serious about her AKA “several dates” AKA actual courtship. If Chad never bought you a drink at the club or never asked you out on a date IRL, but wants to hit you up at 2 AM he only views you as a cum bucket sis. Don’t do that to yourself. Swipe right on the men who hit on you IRL. Or at the very least vet Chad’s intentions first (lol it’s possible you may luck out and get a Chad who’s sincerely into you).

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Men are powerful.

We are so powerful that everything has been done to convince us that we are not.... and we started to believe them. That is our greatest weakness.

Look around you. Everything that you see was built by and is maintained by man. Our very way of life was founded by, is upheld by, and is defended by men.

Civilizations are created and destroyed by us. The same blood that flowed in every patriot, every revolutionary and every liberator flows in you too... but we have been made to forget that.

We have been convinced that we are powerless. The wool has been pulled over our eyes and we have been seduced into our own slavery.

The pride and ego of man has been exploited. We have been conditioned into being silent, emotionless automatons meant to serve and sacrifice for the greater good of society... and we did it because we thought it was the noble thing to do. That mightve been worth it in a time when men were shown an ounce of respect, but not any longer.

Why would you continue to serve a thankless, ungreatful society that hates you? It doesnt make sense. I say its high time us men looked out for ourselves, and did what was in our own best interest, because as we can clearly see, no one else is going to do it for us.

Have the courage to be selfish for once. Have the courage to stand up for yourself and stop being pushed around. Have the courage to make demands and not be content with crumbs from the master's plate.

Theyve tried to make us forget how powerful we truly are. I say we remind them.

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What is the relevance of childbirth and sexual risks in terms of the first date? What you are saying is that a woman should be guaranteed a free meal. Are you saying a man should be guaranteed a heir and sex as well?

EDIT: I forgot to mention, you are already compensated for childbirth. That compensation (in Darwinian terms) is the guarantee that your child is yours and has fulfilled your biological imperative to reproduce. Men do not have that guarantee that the child they are providing and sacrificing for actually fulfilled their biological imperative. That is how we go "50/50" on childbirth. We are also not guaranteed that our biological time is being used effectively, in that we take on the risk of providing for a child that is not ours which may have disastrous consequences like by the time you find out your biological window to procreate has either ended or significantly degraded.

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You're acting like women being sexual selectors is some kind of superpower. First, that was suppressed for most of human history on some level by men deciding who women slept with. So clearly evolution can be overcome pretty easily if primitive people could do it. Second, if women only did want to sleep with the right guys in the right context, they sure do screw it up a lot by doing it wrong and then complaining about it later.

At the end of the day, none of this is relevant to the dinner date issue. Evolution wasn't shaping up your brain to value how much money a man spent - it literally couldn't, since money as a concept hasn't had a chance to shape us evolutionary. At best, women are shaped to value being given things in exchange for sex. But then your lizard brain can't really tell the difference between being given dinner, drinks, or coffee - so the point is moot. Insisting on being bought dinner has nothing to do with your lizard brain, it is a modern phenomena. It isn't like women from the middle ages were insisting on it.

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It's a first date. Shes not pregnant with his child, she is probably not even going to fuck him so she hasn't taken any sexual risks on him either.

So why should women do 100% of the female role and do 50% of the males?

She doesn't do 100% of the female gender role. I highly doubt she's the type that is willing to do the traditional role of cooking/cleaning nor do I believe she is chaste or even remotely close to it. Probably has double digit n-count and fucked men who never spent a dime on her.

Meanwhile she still expects a man who outearns her, who pays for all the dates, who will blow money on a worthless ring and excessively fancy ceremony.

Spend your time and money making yourself look the way he likes

I thought women dress for themselves. Her beauty rutine existed before she even met him. There is nothing she is doing for him that she isn't already doing every other day of the week.

The reason some of you struggle is because the simple concept of WIN/WIN alludes you.

I really doubt many guys, even the ones who would meet her standards would view a date with her as a win especially if they saw that tiktok.

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If I were super into a girl, it presumably means that I knew her before I asked her out. At that point, yeah dinner is a possibility, but that's because a connection has already been formed. But it makes more sense to do something you have in common, whether that is like a museum or an arcade bar, etc. I took girls I was super into for drinks and/or walks before, and they turned out fine. Some into relationships. But I also like chill girls who aren't stuck up.

The issue is girls like her and FDS honestly believe this is normal for girls you meet off OLD or just bumped into for a brief time before asking them out. It makes zero sense to me to ask a girl from OLD to dinner as a first date. You don't even know if you are super into her. And if she is really hot, the chances are higher that she is just using you rather than anything genuine happening. You're more likely to have a genuine date if she wants to meet up for drinks/coffee/walk.

Dinner dates rarely make sense unless you are in the middle of dating IMO. That's usually when I do them.

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So no one on this sub...

But in response to your PS, she says she does not accept those things as date options, she doesn't throw the whole man out ala FDS, she just says sorry we're going to dinner. Explain how I am wrong in that assessment. Further more, I see her reaction of disdain to walk dates as no different than a guy's disdain for simping, it brings us all down...

The 2nd video is in response to someone coming at her in the comments, so of course it's going to be more venomous, it's what you're supposed to do when someone talks shit. How would you respond?

I think my perception is pretty on point, I just don't get as hung up on tone and word choice as others who disagree on here do. Again, language and tone aside, what is wrong with laying out your standards and sticking to them?

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Some more than others.

I mean she is basically saying "we do things my way or not at all". What if a guy doesn't want to do dinner dates (too much pressure for a first date). To me it seems like she only accepts dinner dates, nothing else. Which is fine, she doesn't have to go on any dates she doesn't want to. But it is pretty pretentious.

it brings us all down...

Uh what?

How would you respond?

Intelligently and calmly. I think people who act like they can only respond by laughing are using a cop out and don't really have an adequate response.

I think she should have her standards and stick to them. The point I initially made is that they are stupid to me (and a lot of other people respond to her here/on TikTok). Not really sure what your point of contention was in your original responses.

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She is also saying she doesn't want to date a guy that thinks going to dinner on a first date is too much pressure. God forbid some real shit pops off in his life if dinner dates are fucking him up, but I digress...

There is a time and place for intelligent and calm, but the comment section on TikTok ain't it. If someone comes after you, it's more than appropriate to hit them back, so to speak, and sometimes a laugh is a good way to do that. It's a tool everyone has probably used at one point, to great effect. Sometimes there is no need for an "adequate response", as that implies the person was actually saying something worthwhile in the first place.

The point I originally was making was that she is operating under the idea that if a dude likes you enough, they'll put in the necessary effort, in this case going out to dinner. Knowing this, a chick needs to make sure it takes effort to date them as it weeds out those who won't make the effort because, they don't want it bad enough. This isn't even a man woman thing, it's a human thing, and while it can be crass to just throw it out here like that, it's not wrong...

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How do you know about other women?

Because I have 40 years of having “locker room talk” with them. Across 11 different states, and multiple generations

Women, like men, look out for their own personal prerogative. And our prerogative is not giving up sex for free - women are the gatekeepers of sex, remember?

I just told you they verbalized that they think this is wrong

No kidding. My male relatives would tell you the same about me. Because smart people don’t show their hand

what kind of guy acts like this girl?

All single guys trying to get laid without spending a penny. That’s his prerogative, and - like her - he’s not wrong. He should act in his own best interest

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Like we are allowed to call it stupid though?

You are allowed. I call people acting in their own self interest - even if those interests conflict - smart. No one should give anything up without ensuring that the other person isn’t using them

Sometimes it will take the form of money. Sometimes time. Sometimes something intangible that means something only to the other person

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Because I have 40 years of having “locker room talk” with them. Across 11 different states, and multiple generations

Didn't you say that you failed at doing this vetting in your own life? How trustworthy is your insight really? So your point is men and women only have insight into their own gender?

No kidding. My male relatives would tell you the same about me. Because smart people don’t show their hand

I mean that sounds like a your family problem more than anything. Imagine being this guarded around your own family members and not trying to protect them from bad actors outside of your family. I mean some families are screwy so I sympathize. However, my family members aren't hypocritical. So I have reason to trust them, and I don't think what your family members say about you has any relevance to me.

All single guys trying to get laid without spending a penny. That’s his prerogative, and - like her - he’s not wrong. He should act in his own best interest

But she doesn't like coffee or drinks either - which costs more than a penny. Not sure if you really understood her tiktok. However, if two people get laid without any money being involved, doesn't that mean they like each other for each other? Isn't that good? Am I understanding correctly that you don't think a relationship is good unless a man invests money into it first? That sounds so sad. Because some of my best relationships were those when I was broke and she liked me for me.

No one should give anything up without ensuring that the other person isn’t using them

Man, so you don't see a spending a pleasant evening with someone (even if it was free) as something you are sharing? But rather something you are giving up for free?

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Didn’t you say that you failed at doing this vetting

No, I said I didn’t do it and lucked out and it worked for me. However, I do not recommend for women in general

There are a lot of things about my situation that weren’t normal, but worked to my advantage

this sounds like a your family problem

No, it’s a “women don’t share” reality. Why do you think Sex & The City and The Rules was so offensive to men 20 years ago, and FDS is so offensive today?

It’s not because the advice is new

But she doesn’t like coffee or drinks

I happen to disagree with her there. If you dig into my posting history, I’ve advised multiple men to research “half priced wine” nights at local wine bars, and take advantage of happy hour specials

I could have made that more clear, fair point

if two people get laid without any money being involved, isn’t that good

If he likes her, then yes. But the amount of men who will fake interest to get laid with zero investment is high … So a smart woman will make sure he likes her first

you don’t see a spending a pleasant evening with someone … as sharing?

Of course I do, I’ve already admitted as such. I don’t recommend my personal course of action to the average woman, however

Time is something men can invest, it just takes longer. If a guy sticks around for weeks or months without spending a penny, then he’s clearly interested. Frankly, if she’s wasting his time at that point, she’s the asshole who is just looking for orbiters

The fact that I’m speaking from the woman’s interest in this conversation doesn’t negate the fact that I can - and do - often tell men to operate in their own interest

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No, it’s a “women don’t share” reality. Why do you think Sex & The City and The Rules was so offensive to men 20 years ago, and FDS is so offensive today?

Maybe they don't share everything. But they do share some things. And I don't see how this is one of the things they don't share. So let me ask you this, my aunt you told me to stay away from girls like this. She was trying to mislead me? Is that your contention? Or is it that she is a hypocrite? You said your family members would say the same about you. Are you saying you would mislead your own male family members for your own female prerogative? I think they are less offensive and more stupid (or maybe so stupid it has gotten offensive?). Like the reason men like to argue with it is because we see glaring flaws and some men and women like to make the other gender feel stupid by pointing out flaws in their thinking. Those are just easy targets.

But the amount of men who will fake interest to get laid with zero investment is high … So a smart woman will make sure he likes her first

So this is what makes me think it is kind of smooth brained. Buying people out is literally one of the easiest ways to fake interest. There is a trope of trying to "buy love", not just in dating but like inattentive parents or something. I think the risk of a man faking his interest by paying for it is much higher than trying to use other methods than money. At the same time, I think a woman who sees money as indicating genuine interest is setting herself up to be fooled much easier due to the extra variable of money becoming involved. I don't know how to put it other than saying that dates that didn't involve me "paying for her" just felt more authentic. Like she knows that I'm not trying to use money as a proxy for interest and actually have to prove my interest in much harder/genuine ways.

That's why I think her vetting method is simply stupid. She is weeding out men who might actually be genuinely interested (even if they are trying to invest time as you talked about) in favor of men who know they can use money as an "interest cover". This is why I'm not convinced she is acting in the interest of her "true love life" rather than acting in the interest of materialism. She is entitled to be materialistic of course, but let's be honest so everyone knows what they are getting into. And of course, her advice would be helpful for someone looking for a materialistic relationship and harmful for someone looking for a genuine relationship.

I don’t recommend my personal course of action to the average woman, however

So a "do as I say, not as I do" kind of thing.

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That's a good cop out. However, the crux can be found here:

Buying people out is literally one of the easiest ways to fake interest. There is a trope of trying to "buy love", not just in dating but like inattentive parents or something. I think the risk of a man faking his interest by paying for it is much higher than trying to use other methods than money. At the same time, I think a woman who sees money as indicating genuine interest is setting herself up to be fooled much easier due to the extra variable of money becoming involved.

That's why I think her vetting method is simply stupid. She is weeding out men who might actually be genuinely interested (even if they are trying to invest time as you talked about) in favor of men who know they can use money as an "interest cover". And of course, her advice would be helpful for someone looking for a materialistic relationship and harmful for someone looking for a genuine relationship.

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Our neighbor at the farm died yesterday. He had just been transferred into hospice care in a nursing home a couple of days earlier. He was 96 and he and his wife had been married for 60 years. We had never gotten to know him very well because he has always been in poor health during the time we've been neighbors, but we've been friends with his wife. I knew right off that I'd like her when she stopped by to introduce herself and said, "So, do you want to know what all of the locals are saying about you?" Cool lady. A bit hard of hearing, but mentally sharp as a tack. She's still farming. My man stopped by yesterday and after she told him about her husband, she said she had to go into town tomorrow to make the funeral arrangements and asked him to keep an eye on one of her ewes, who is experiencing some complications from a difficult lambing. That's farm life for you -- it doesn't stop for anything.

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Haha, well that's another story altogether. You see, a couple years ago some guy who had been big in the sports world decided he wanted to be a farmer (probably for the tax write-off) so he bought a big tract of land out here in Podunk and set himself up in business. His schtick was that the whole operation was going to use all of the latest technology -- organic, sustainable, all the buzzwords -- and would be the greatest thing since sliced bread! He even started a dairy with robotic milkers, the first of its kind around here. I think it was in business for about two years before they ended up selling the cows -- evidently even a millionaire couldn't keep that business afloat! The place became something of a laughingstock among the actual farmers in the area. It's still in operation -- I think they're running some kind of CSA out of the hydroponic greenhouses. But anyway. When I bought my place and hung my sanctuary farm sign on the gate, I guess the rumor started going around that I was somehow connected to this rich guy's farm, because anyone operating a sanctuary farm must be a rich idiot, right? I almost hated to disappoint people by telling them I'm not actually rich (the "idiot" part is subject to interpretation) but I guess they would have figured it out eventually after getting a look at our equipment, which is ancient and held together with the proverbial baling wire, lol.

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Yes, my new neighbors had invented an amazing backstory for me, much more interesting than my actual life, lol.

Well I had to go to Eldersville this morning to pull a couple of real estate signs. The man rode shotgun with me and we stopped at Mrs. O's on the way home. She was just leaving for town. I told her I was sorry about her husband and we both managed not to start crying. Then she left, and the man and I went down to her barn, stood up her ewe, grained it and drew it a fresh bucket of water from the cistern. She's got some nice Artesian wells on that farm; very convenient. The ewe has a pinched nerve which is not surprising considering the size of her lamb, a real bruiser. It almost knocked her off her feet banging on her bag for milk.

Then we went down to our own farm, let the ducklings out of the barn, put out hay for our cows and moved around some bales that were delivered Monday. Now we're home; I'm frying pierogies for lunch, then I have to put up a couple more real estate signs before it's time to head in to work at the dairy. Later I'll come home and probably read posts here from boys with soft white hands nattering about how women's lives are so easy. LOL

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Nobody is choosing it as a hill to die on, idgaf in my daily life. I just see that it is stupid and if it comes up, like it did in that article, it is stupid to not go with the obvious choice. If it is meaningless what is the point in not making things equal when we claim that is what we are endeavoring towards in society?

To your second point, the end result is indistinguishable. All of our society is trending towards "spiteful equality", whether it makes sense or is efficient or not. This is just one minor instance of the rare cases when it goes against women.

Broadly, I do see it as a (relatively minor) example of our society being gynocentric. Like the people who argue against it put so much more effort when they're obviously in the wrong, rather than just going "yeah, we should" and be done with it. After all, it is meaningless.

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You were at war.

This is America. We're always at war.

Like I said, unique geopolitical role. The militaries of other nations simply don't deal with anything like the global range of responsibility that the US military does. Really only France comes close.

I'm telling you, no one in the US military's primary responsibility is scrubbing toilets. And if you're being conscripted its because you're needed for something far more important than that. You have to do it sometimes, but because it's for your own barracks/dorm. You aren't literally a janitor.

In a mandatory service system, the military could function almost exactly like university. I earn college credits for my training as is. I don't know how it is in your country, but here the military is already massively intertwined with post-secondary education. Almost everyone who serves ends up earning a degree through or paid-for by their military service.

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I have black neighbors that use derivation of that word quite loudly until about 2am every Saturday.

Did I mention anything about "nxgga"?

I said "nxggxr."

I wrote what I wrote, and intentionally so.

Do you think those two derivatives mean the same thing? I use "nxgga" colloquially within my culture. I get called a "nxgger" by raging racists. The racists created the original word. That's the difference which is fucking obvious to most people.

Additionally, I guess you would walk up to a bunch of Peurto Ricans joking intraculturally about "sp*c" or a bunch of Jewish people joking intraculturally about "k*ke" or a bunch of gay men joking intraculturally about "fagg*ts" and repeat it back them and be confused as to why they wouldn't appreciate that.

The difference between you and I is that that wouldn't confuse me.

Yes this is me feigning ignorance about cultural intricacies of language use; doesn't change a fact that you're playing a card here. I'm not being judgy here, I just like to know why people do what they do.

What card am I playing? You're one of those I see. Offended because I don't find your edgelordiness amusing nor do I think being called a "nxggxr" is amusing?

YOU CHOSE to reply to me and make a comment about me not enjoying being called a "nxggxr."

And now you're claiming I'm "pulling a card" because I am explaining to you why I don't enjoy being called a "nxggxr"?

Get the fuck out of here.

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500 Days of Summer is being brought up again in my group chats.

I personally thought Summer was honest with him the entire way through about not wanting a relationship. But he was persistent and cool to hang out with and hell eventually a girl will get horny and lean into the FWBness of it all if you make it that comfortable for her.

Ultimately, she made it clear that she was not that into him and they ended things, even though did they even start things? He was blindsided when she popped up engaged half a year later. She felt that immediate "spark" with the new guy. Wasn't any deeper than that.

However, I had a male friend say, "yeah but he hit."

Meaning Summer and Tom hooked up (had sex) a host of times at least while they were hanging out with each other.

So I'm gathering many men believe a woman must be "head over heels" in love with him if she has sex with him? Or if a woman "hooks up with you" then she must really desire you as "the one who makes her heart throb on sight"?

Sex =! "she's in love with you"

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The confusion probably stems from the fact that it used to

Did it?

Many marriages "back then" weren't between men and women where she was "in love" or even he was "in love." That's not to say many weren't "in love," but many weren't.

Just like how now ppl start wanting to settle down circa 27. Before, women and men felt the pressure to be married and "starting their lives" at 20. That societal pressure drove marriage rates. Not lust or "in love" or love.

We're all mercenaries now.

Marriage was based on practicality. Literally, you traded a woman for a dowry of goats. Marriage was very practical for my grandmother.

And for many men, they got married because they wanted kids and needed someone home to raise the kids and make him meals.

The idea that things just got "transactional" is fiction.

If anything we're living in an era where many relationships are leading with "I'm in love!" as opposed to "this is a practical next step in my life."

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I think I might've said it before but just in case, I'll say it again: I think the main cause of dating and relationship issues stems from people's lack of spiritual/personal development. I often see that people are expecting a partner to initially be fun and entertaining, but the people expecting this are usually not fun or entertaining, and also tend to be either depressed or unsatisfied with themselves or their lives. Hence the reason why they want a partner as a form of escapism from their own issues.

When people have put in the work for personal/spiritual growth, they tend to not look to a partner for entertainment, satisfaction, validation, comfort, reassurance, etc., and are able to simply enjoy their partner's (or potential partner's) company for who they are.

Idk if people would call this "maturity" or not but I think a lot of people need to choose to get more of it.

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Depression and insecurity made me think I was ugly and undesirable. My cousin told me that her friend liked me a lot and always talked about me. The more I think about it, the more I understand that she wasn't even the only girl who showed interest, but for both girls(the only ones that I know for sure) I was too insecure and depressed, so I told myself "she doesn't like you that way, she's just being friendly"(I do this for every girl I meet btw). I told someone on here about one of the girls, and she told me that the girl gave me hints and that the reason for her acting cold toward me after awhile, could have been her anger towards me for rejecting her, or something. Plus this same girl texted me again about a month ago, so there's that.

Has something like this happened to anyone else? Has depression changed the way you saw yourself?

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Maybe teachers and people with kids say things. I get that. They’re acutely aware of the differences on a daily basis and on top of that they have to teach and/or pay for these “anti authority” ppl. I’m sure they find that annoying. When you’re 36 and having to deal with a 16 year old know it all you’ll likely roll your eyes too.

Also the boomers were sort of the first anti authority anti establishment generation in many ways. They ushered in the sexual revolution and the hippies. They were the ones marching for civil rights and laying in front of buses protesting Vietnam war and American hegemony.

So honestly all of this hate on boomers is unwarranted. I think young ppl are confusing boomers with the parents of boomers or something.

Gen X really ain’t give a fuck. And still don’t.

And millennials reshaped how the world relates to tech on an interpersonal level. Also millennials ushered in the whole “I really don’t have to be here, I quit. I’ll start my own startup or go to a better company” mentality which keeps corporations on their toes.

What you’ll find is most “generations” of recent history were fairly “anti establishment” when they were teens through “first kid.” Something about having to take care of another human makes you less willing to rock the boat since you now have a dependent who needs you alive and making money.

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That’s what I was saying. When I was 14 I didn’t interact with ppl 17 years older me in spaces they also dominate.

So if I made a throwaway “ugh that old school rap is so boring Gen Xers ain’t have flow” (btw I don’t think this) it was to my friends or on our little MySpace pages/groups which no older folks were on. My comment didn’t get shared all over the internet in an attempt to actually provoke Gen Xers.

Gen Zers share digital space with people of all age groups. Of course millennials are on Twitter and Instagram — we created it. And yes some of us are on tiktok because we are used to this sort of digital communication and enjoy it.

So when an aggy tweet from a Gen Zer goes viral with the intent of provoking the millennial subject of the tweet, I’m not sure why you’re shocked a millennial will see it and reply “Bitch please.” We are on Twitter too lol.

That’s what’s different about now. The teens and young ppl are sharing the same “casual convo” space as everyone older than them. That didn’t happen in the past. Adults had their spaces. Kids/teens had their spaces. Different age groups had their respective spaces.

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Boomers did protect their kids too much from the real world. When these kids were born the self esteem movement was taking off and you had “experts” telling parents their most important task was building their child’s self esteem. Which led to everyone gets a trophy, no one ever has to get picked last, every one is super special, no kid is dumb or not trying hard enough, they just have a “learning disability” or a bad teacher, and god forbid our kids ever feel any uncomfort or pain.

Boomers who were raised the complete opposite probably embraced that idea in the 80s that their own problems were the fault of corporal punishment and hard ass aloof parents and thought they were helping their kids.

But there’s a balance.

I’m a mom. I get it. I don’t ever want my son to feel pain or hurt or loss or anything. It literally makes me die a little inside. But I also know that shielding him from everything bad will hurt him far more in the long run.

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I don't know how many of you read the Altered Carbon books (not the show; the show is gay).

But if our minds are stored on a constantly-updating hard drive at the base of the brainstem (given to everyone at birth) and we can transfer it into whatever body we can afford, it'd change the sexual marketplace in very interesting ways.

On the one hand, ugly people won't be stuck that way if their birth body looks like shit. On the other hand, inequality and the new aristocracy will become even more firmly entrenched. Also, we'll have super old rich people running around in prime bodies in their 20s. Body rental services. People down on their luck who can't pay off their body mortgage or are getting out of prison or had a fatal accident and are uninsured will be put into leftover ugly junkie bodies. And so on.

What would your strategy be?

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I remember none of that since I wasn't even alive in the mid-90s, I stumbled on Seed one summer because the entire Remaster was available for free on YouTube. Then to forget that Destiny happened I started watching UC stuff.

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Kamen Rider is freaking great, imagine writing off an entire series because the actors are too sexy for you to handle. Hating it because you can't get past the costumes and the whole Power Rangers vibe is one thing. But because the actors are gorgeous? What?

I haven't written it off, I just never have had the time to get into tokusatsu/super sentai/ whatever you call it.

But I know why bitches watch it. Once upon a time one of my puroresu guys was cast as a lead role but the promotion shut it down despite him being a fan of it. I think he go to be part of other things in the franchise though.

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I always think of Char with the helmet/visor so it's weird to see him without it.

I only see Quattro Bajeena ;)

(I have a theory about Char's eyes but it'll spoil parts of the UC Timeline)

If you ever get into Kamen Rider, watch Amazons. It's the first series 100% targeted at a mature audience and season 1 is great. Season 2 pulls a Destiny though so uh...viewer discretion advised.

Copy+pasted to my endless backlog list that will never be completed, just in case I go for it. I have a full collection of Godzilla and related movies so it's possible I go for it around then.

My Gundam blinds-spots are actually SEED (I've heard they're rebuilds of UC characters and tropes and Destiny goes way off course), Gundam X, Gundam AGE (though that one seems like a black sheep anyways) and anything to do with the model building. I mean to watch'em eventually but time

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Am I an incel or just lazy?

I'm 21 and used to be a kissless virgin. Until a few months ago, I had never tried OLD or any sort of dating or even tried to do anything with girls; I have also never approached girls. Anyway, I managed to find a girl that I slept with after 2 days of using Tinder and then a couple of weeks later I managed to find another girl that lead to a short-lived relationship. I swiped left on about 90% of all profiles I came across and these two girls were the ones that actually swiped right on me first. Reason for swiping left is that I won't even bother trying to 'win over' a better looking girl that has thousands upon thousands of options. To be brutally honest, I hate dating because it's so exhausting to be a guy in the SMP.

For references, I'm about average/above-average in looks, white, 6'1, blonde hair and blue eyes.

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This sub talks about AF/BB a lot but I haven’t seen much discussion on how men have different standards for...

That's because this sub is predominantly red pill, so discussions about af/ab are more common.

Not knowing the difference between 2 & 3 is also how women end up forever gfs.

With the decline of marriage as a status marker many women simply don't care about marriage and plenty of men don't use it to express love/commitment, so among many couples there's no distinction between 2 and 3.

Since marriage is a status marker for men as well, there are men who propose to whomever is besides them because that's what they're supposed to do. Redpillers won't admit it, but I'm afraid that the fear of af/bb is partially a projection from men with madonna/whore who end up married to the safest option and not the one they really like. I've known men in this situation and it's a hell.

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notes from a night out (2 different bars-pubs[one "urban" the other blue collar], same night):

the sex ratio, at best (during peak hours), was 60/40 male to female
of the women in attendance 90% were in either in a mixed gender group or with their male SO
the 10% of seemingly single women were very fat or unattractive (garish makeup, ill fitting and outdated club clothing, fried bleach blond hair, cheap fake nails), didn't interact with anybody at the venue and just finger fucked their phone while they nursed their drinks. Nobody took a shot at them all night.
male SMV ran from 3 (short, very obese Mexican) to 7 (black, tall, skinnyripped, stylish) however the two short very fat (400+ lbs) mexican men had their slightly less fat (300+ lbs) mexican girlfriends(wives?) with them and the tall black dude seemed to be striking out all night despite charismatic chill/cool vibes. He had too much SMV for the single women but couldn't really penetrate the white or hispanic preformed coed groups and snipe a girl. Black guy didn't seemed pressed tho, and eventually left to go to the night club next door.
besides myself (🤷‍♀️ just trying to be objective) the women with the highest SMV were the bartenders.
cocaine is great way for low SMV men to get people talking to them, trading numbers, and generally be included in the social mix.
out of every man I observed there was only one I'd not regret sleeping with if I was obliterated fall down drunk (but I'd still have to be obliterated fall down drunk to sleep with him). He was 5'8" white, seemed to work out (or at least had a healthy body shape), very excited by his career (biomedical engineer which seems fairly interesting), and was completely bland and inoffensive. He liked cars and had a symmetrical face. He also loved his mother and wore a polo/khaki shorts combo.
a lot of people sporting ankle monitors, wtf were they doing during lock down?
Yes I have autism and spend a lot of time silently observing shit while my husband blabs on and on to anyone who will listen.

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I remember I came across the sex offenders subreddit (yes, it's a real thing and pretty bland, most of it is about logisticsof moving with a record and stuff.) when it was linked in the worstof sub.

90% of them seem to be there for child porn. There was a topic where one addressed this is how it started. It went from abnormal amounts of porn (3+ hours/times a day) to looking for more and more outrageous porn, kinky porn then abuse porn then beastality then finally child porn. The op claimed no actual attraction to minors but was simply chasing the porn high dragon.

A few people who responded stated it was there experence as well. I mean obviously these people are the extreme outliers of society and are maybe just looking for a way out of the stigma but I think for some of them it's probably true.

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'Savage explained in Salon that he'd gone to Des Moines to follow around "one of the loopy conservative Christian candidates" and write about the campaign. But when he got there he went to bed with the flu. On his "deathbed" he heard Gary Bauer declare on MSNBC "Our society will be destroyed if we say it's OK for a man to marry a man or a woman to marry a woman," and in his "Sudafed-induced delirium," Savage decided to respond with an act of "terrorism." His new plan: volunteer for the Bauer campaign and "get close enough to Bauer to give him the flu....I would go to Bauer's campaign office and cough on everything--phones and pens, staplers and staffers."If his plan was "a little malicious," well, he figured, so's Bauer. "When Bauer tells people that gays and lesbians are a threat to families, I take that personally."Savage went on to say how he carried out his scheme. Rising from his soggy bed of pain, he signed on at Bauer headquarters, worked the phones a couple shifts, and while everyone else was at a pizza party "went from doorknob to doorknob....Much as it pains me to confirm a hateful stereotype of gay men--we will put anything in our mouths--I started licking doorknobs. The front door, office doors, even a bathroom door. When that was done, I started in on the staplers, phones and computer keyboards. Then I stood in the kitchen and licked the rims of all the clean coffee cups drying in the rack."He wasn't done yet. Stalking Bauer during an appearance at a local war memorial, Savage pulled his pen out of his mouth and handed it to the candidate so he could autograph a photo of Savage's adopted son. "Score! My bodily fluids--flu bugs and all--were all over his hand!"

Luckily no one with a comprised immune system was killed.

The ever moral and sanctimonious Danny Boy. The gall. Your hero.

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To piggyback on my OLD thread I remember I was watching TV one time and one site I think it might’ve been Match or Eharmony said something like this in a commercial

“The number one site for matches dates and marriages.”

I thought to myself, what exactly are the percentage though 😂 and compared to other sites?

Let’s say for example use a nice round number and said 1,000 people this year signed up for Match. Only 50 of the 1,000 went on at least one date, thats 950 of the people who never met up with anyone for the people counting scores at home. 5 of those 50 who got at least 1 date entered relationships with that date and one of the 5 got married 3 years down the line. That’s terrible honestly. Like imagine if I created a dating site and said only like 5% of y’all with ever meet up with someone. But don’t worry we are better than tinder’s 3% 🤣

For the record OLD has been good to me, frankly I’ve met women that I would have never met without it. I’ve been on over 50 dates through OLD, smashed at least ten girls, Met my current GF who I love to death from OLD, but I wouldn’t say my story is typical though.

For example at my best I was meeting 4-6 Women a month through various OLD sites. I would tell that to some guys and they would look at me crazy like “bro I’m lucky if I get 5 dates a whole year”. One of my Best friends is a monster though. He was SMASHING at least 4 a month for a several year period, not meeting up, fucking lol. That’s not included women he would pick up at bars/clubs/concerts when we was heavy out here in our mid to late 20’s.

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A) not my holy land, not my problem. Sounds like God should have their back and not US tax payers

Technically as a Christian nation, it is your holy land. The Old Testament is the Jewish Bible.

B) you're avoiding the question. What percentage of the 1% are Zionists? You don't think bankers play a large role in American (and thus global) politics?

I'm not avoiding anything. You're proclaiming all the rich people in the world are Zionists as if that has anything to do with China being the new Soviet Union and rich people not caring one bit because it makes them money. Rich people isn't a nationality, its a class.

BTW, /pol/ is full of the dumbest of the dumb, bird-dogs for the Russian psy-ops

Another fun question is how many members of Congress have citizenship in other countries, and what are they?

I see where you're going and LOL

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Technically as a Christian nation, it is your holy land. The Old Testament is the Jewish Bible.

It's not a Christian nation? The Talmud is the "Jewish" bible.

I'm not avoiding anything. You're proclaiming all the rich people in the world are Zionists as if that has anything to do with China being the new Soviet Union and rich people not caring one bit because it makes them money. Rich people isn't a nationality, its a class.

A) I never said "all the rich people". In fact, me asking what percentage implies that a certain percentage is not.

B) Look up the roots of communism. Both the Soviet Union and China had advisors that were Zionists.

C) You can't continuously say you aren't avoiding a question, and then continuously avoid answering it.

BTW, /pol/ is full of the dumbest of the dumb, bird-dogs for the Russian psy-ops

Sorry, 4 years of "muh Russia" in the media didn't quite work on anyone besides boomers still scared of the Cold War.

I see where you're going and LOL

Lol so how many have dual citizenship? Notice how they point out the rules regarding citizenship and all that fluff, but never list the number in the article. It's funny how they avoid hard questions just like you do.

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Elden Ring wasn't shown at the digital e3 event, they pooped it out a few days early. My response to it was mostly "Oh hey, it's Dark Souls mixed with Witcher as written by the only guy not named JRR Tolkien to make normies care about fantasy, I wish it was Berserk instead."

Stalker is a boring documentary about Russian pandemic life.

Forza Horizon 5 is in Mexico and the chest-beating real man types who love cars hate Mexicans, or at least that's what politics have taught me (acks I like Forza Horizon and was blown away by the graphics but I've only played the first one, don't have an Xbox and it's "more of the same" so in a sense it's nothing amazing but also not a negative. Also people historically don't really tune in to e3 for sports games and they're always received negatively because it's wasting time on a game everyone knows all the sports fans are going to buy no matter what)

(Starfield has me interested because they had a bit of an Expanse vibe but they showed nothing about it)

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Most Nintendo franchises are not the games that are at the top of the industry, though. 3D Platformers haven't been relevant since the N64 and PS1, and yet Odyssey is one of the best 3D platformers ever made. Breath of the Wild took what Skyrim did and actually made it fun to run around in the middle of nowhere and addictive to look behind every corner and climb every mountain, no one else has really figured that out (except Genshin but that's Communist Chinese thievery). No one else has figured out Party Fighters at all (Sony somehow completely failed at making a Smash clone). Mario Kart's one of the highest selling video games pretty much every time out and yet only Sega and once with Crash Bandicoot has anyone figured out how to make something even half as good.

Stalker is... a First Person Shooter the likes of which you have seen a million times from a million other studios. A gun in your hand aiming down sights is basically either the most popular or second most popular genre in the entire industry at any one time. There was like 10 more FPS games in that Microsoft conference alone, and the only reason you could tell it apart from the others was that there were people saying "NYET" and "MAYONEZ"

Elden Ring is... Dark Souls with some normie cache. You played this exact game with this exact game style 10 years ago, they're just trying to trick Joe Normie with the Game of Thrones cachet into playing hard games.

Forza Horizon 5 is a simulation racing game mixed with some arcade style settings. They've been making these specific kinds of games for decades and Horizon just mashed'em all together.

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Dude, Nintendo has been making the same games since the first consoles.

They had a 3D platformer in every gen - saying that they haven't been relevant since N64 is just dumb. Sunshine and Galaxy no longer exist? I even remember Super Mario Galaxy being one of the highest rated games.

BotW is just Zelda label slapped on Ubisoft-style tower climbing. Not saying it is bad, but it isn't original.

Nintendo has party fighters, other consoles have standard fighting games. Nintendo players don't really care about fighting games, and other console owners don't really care about party fighters.

Mario Kart series has been exactly the same game ever since the very first Mario Kart.

It's weird seeing you criticize other games for being repetitive or unoriginal when Nintendo is doing exactly the same thing since times of NES.

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3D Platformers aren't relevant as in no one else is really making them at the mainstream level with any consistency, you mostly had to rely on re-release collections or the crapshoot that is kickstarter. Meanwhile the FPS space is massively competitive in comparison.

Also Sunshine was on the Gamecube, which IIRC was the number 3 console and before the Wii U debacle one of the worst selling ones.

BotW is just Zelda label slapped on Ubisoft-style tower climbing. Not saying it is bad, but it isn't original.

It's actually a huge departure from what Zelda had been since the N64, which was a collection puzzle-dungeons with increasingly emptier and linear overworlds. It's instead go-anywhere (to a never-before-seen degree in the game itself and not-very-common way in fantasy/nature style games in particular), do anything at any time, and the puzzles are broken up and the dungeons much smaller (and arguably the worst part of the game instead of usually being the best). I wish it was more similar to what Zelda was before, because at least then the weapons wouldn't explode

Nintendo has party fighters, other consoles have standard fighting games. Nintendo players don't really care about fighting games, and other console owners don't really care about party fighters.

Which pretty much proves my point, Nintendo's doing something that no one else has figured out how to successfully do. Smash even utilized characters that Sony made famous on the Playstation rather than Sony actually using those same characters in their own Smash knockoff.

Mario Kart series has been exactly the same game ever since the very first Mario Kart.

It's weird seeing you criticize other games for being repetitive or unoriginal when Nintendo is doing exactly the same thing since times of NES.

There is one Mario Kart. Once in awhile someone else tries to make a Kart racer and it either doesn't do much of anything, or can't really hold a candle to Mario Kart despite its quality. Meanwhile, there's like 50 new FPS games out every year, doing the exact same thing, in the exact same genre. It's not Wolfenstein or Doom mostly dominating and fending off competition through the years to remain the top dog in their genre, it's Wolfenstein and Doom and Goldeneye and Halo and Half Life and Call of Duty and Medal of Honor and Battlefield and and and and and and and and and, over and over and over again. Most of them look the same, most of them don't do all that much different.

Maybe in 10 years after the Soulslike craze dies down a bit, FromSoft will be similar in that you just can't compete with them in that specific genre, but we just had a Star Wars game crib off of them and now they're trying to fool the cool kids into playing their games with George RR Martin's involvement and The Witcher's aesthetics.

(You should at least say "N64" because 3D polygon gaming didn't even exist during the NES and SNES and half of their most popular game styles didn't even exist until then)

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Nintendo's doing something that no one else has figured out how to successfully do

Look at it this way - Nintendo is giving their audience what their playerbase wants, while other consoles give their playerbases different things that they want.

Since N64, barely anyone attempted to make those Nintendo-esque games on other consoles. And why is that? Perhaps because people don't play on Nintendo because don't actually enjoy these types of games? Similarly, why (despite being such a saturated market) there were basically no fps shooters on Nintendo consoles? Before new DOOM you barely had anything there. You didn't have these car racing games either. Besides TTT2 on Wii U you didn't have fighting games on Nintendo consoles either (old Street Fighter ports are just nostalgia bait).

Besides that failed PS All Stars nobody even tried making party fighters. Perhaps the only relatively successful thing is Rivals of Aether that came in 2017.

They are just separate markets that cater to different needs, and not necessarily it is due to one of them "figuring out" the video game industry.

[–]makinganimerealer 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look at it this way - Nintendo is giving their audience what their playerbase wants, while other consoles give their playerbases different things that they want.

50 different variations of the same FPS game, sure.

Since N64, barely anyone attempted to make those Nintendo-esque games on other consoles. And why is that? Perhaps because people don't play on Nintendo because don't actually enjoy these types of games? Similarly, why (despite being such a saturated market) there were basically no fps shooters on Nintendo consoles? Before new DOOM you barely had anything there. You didn't have these car racing games either. Besides TTT2 on Wii U you didn't have fighting games on Nintendo consoles either (old Street Fighter ports are just nostalgia bait).

Sony did on the PS2. Ratchet quickly turned into a shooter and Sly and Jak died out. Crash had already died out earlier and Spyro got co-opted for action figures/Skylands instead. Microsoft meant to with buying Rare but never really figured it out.

Console manufacturers try to cover every base so they don't have to rely on others to do it for them. They just couldn't figure this base out at all.

Similarly, why (despite being such a saturated market) there were basically no fps shooters on Nintendo consoles?

Metroid Prime on Gamecube was that, and there were Call of Duty (pre-MW) and Medal of Honor games on it.

After that, the primary reason shooters didn't show up was because Nintendo was using weaker technology and goofy control gimmicks, so a lot of it either couldn't be ported or didn't end up being worth it when they brought it there (CoD on the Wii was a thing). It's by far the most saturated and overdone genre this side of phone games, Nintendo just hasn't made it easy for them to move their games that work the same way on PC, Sony and Microsoft over to them until just recently.

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Like when they serve no purpose in the story line, they just seem to be stuck in the script because the guy who wrote it or directed got off on it.

Oh children, gather round and let me tell you about the before times.

In a time long long ago, the internet was not a thing, or barely a thing. It was a thing used by young male stem majors and a few ultra nerdy middle aged people who made it in the first place. At this time you had to actually, and don't be afraid, go out and buy your porn at a store, like a savage.

But.... while real porn was mostly illegal to air in the dark ages of the US, before the great internet, pseduo porn was not, and when bad movies were made, they wanted an excuse to show boobs. As a bonus it made the bad guys really bad so when the big hero saved the day to get the boobs you hated the bad guy so it was all good, as writing is hard.

In those old dark days, excuses were made just to show boobs and it worked for when one is 16 at a blockbuster and the velvet current is forbidden, some low budget film that gave boobs was ones only recourse.

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However, if you get into a serious relationship, it's not farfetched to feel as though the next step is to get married.

You're describing basically what I'm saying. Men don't think of relationships as having "steps." We're either in them or we aren't. That's it. We don't think "well if she loves me so much, why hasn't she proposed after 1/2/3 years?" Men don't really see much of a point in marriage. It's just "extra," like an add-on feature.

Romantic love is based on the idea that you want to grow together.

I'm not sure as to why that involves getting married.

Objectively, in a vacuum, it's fine if the man just keeps her as casual for years and years if they're both having fun. She's not "owed" or "entitled" to a relationship or even his friendship simply because she put in her time and efforts worth.

Stop using the phrase "in a vacuum" because it sounds like you don't know what it means.

Anyway, I'm sure that a woman in a years-long casual relationship with a man will wonder if it's going to change or not. I don't see the point unless they're pushing for some objective and waiting on him to approve or agree.

However, I would consider it a huge lack of empathy if that same man continued this dynamic with the knowledge that she potentially wanted something more and if there were feelings involved.

Here it is again. Men are supposed to take things further out of feelings of guilt or lack of similar feelings for their partner. That's not the point of being in a relationship. If she wants something that he doesn't, its not his job to give in to her demands. It's her responsibility to decide whether or not being in that relationship is enough for her, and if not, then she should leave. She's not owed more just because she wants more.

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because we’re “blackpilled” the minute we exit our mothers’ vaginas. society assigns value to women based on their youth and beauty. people want pretty daughters. men want youthful, pretty girlfriends and wives.

the halo effect and pretty privilege are real phenomenons, ~~any woman~~ anybody who’s gone from being overweight to slim or who has gone from ugly to beautiful (whether it’s through plastic surgery or something else) can attest to that.

women’s appearances are also judged harder than men’s. not saying men’s looks never receive criticism; just that the criticism for women’s appearances tends to be harsher and the standards higher, and it’s been that way for centuries.

beauty is currency for women in a way that’s different from men, so women have a different relationship to it. that results in more women being self-conscious. advertisements and social media play on these insecurities and make them worse, so i see the problem getting worse as time progresses.

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I’d rather get rejected upfront by a girl and move on than try to play the long game and hope it happens on the back end. What I mean by that is, if a girl is gonna fuck you or would potentially fuck you she makes her decision very quickly in the early meetings with you. So it’s better to ask right away and know where you stand.

What a lot of men do is, they’ll be like “I like I like this girl so I’m just gonna hang around her and play this friend/acquaintance game and hope over time she will see the light”. Like one night after 2 years of friendship you are on her couch and she just decides she’s gonna hop on your penis. Lol that’s sitcom fantasy, and that rarely if ever happen IRL.

Every woman I ever had sex with, we started smashing very quickly after I made the initial offer/attempt. Not saying it happened the first night or date, but within a week or a couple of weeks after I made it known I liked them.

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Here's a blog post about hiring developers from 2006 that's weirdly relevant to OLD:

The corollary of that rule—the rule that the great people are never on the market—is that the bad people—the seriously unqualified—are on the market quite a lot. They get fired all the time, because they can’t do their job. Their companies fail—sometimes because any company that would hire them would probably also hire a lot of unqualified programmers, so it all adds up to failure—but sometimes because they actually are so unqualified that they ruined the company. Yep, it happens.

These morbidly unqualified people rarely get jobs, thankfully, but they do keep applying, and when they apply, they go to Monster.com and check off 300 or 1000 jobs at once trying to win the lottery.

Numerically, great people are pretty rare, and they’re never on the job market, while incompetent people, even though they are just as rare, apply to thousands of jobs throughout their career. So now, Sparky, back to that big pile of resumes you got off of Craigslist. Is it any surprise that most of them are people you don’t want to hire?

Astute readers, I expect, will point out that I’m leaving out the largest group yet, the solid, competent people. They’re on the market more than the great people, but less than the incompetent, and all in all they will show up in small numbers in your 1000 resume pile, but for the most part, almost every hiring manager in Palo Alto right now with 1000 resumes on their desk has the same exact set of 970 resumes from the same minority of 970 incompetent people that are applying for every job in Palo Alto, and probably will be for life, and only 30 resumes even worth considering, of which maybe, rarely, one is a great programmer. OK, maybe not even one. And figuring out how to find those needles in a haystack, we shall see, is possible but not easy.

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Yeah. I like to give them family names, like Rozlyn was Rose's daughter so she and all her children are named some variation of that. Lizzie's grandmother was Elizabeth, who had twin daughters I called Lizzie and Betsy. Our Lizzie is Lizzie the First's daughter.

A new heifer freshened in this week; her mother's eartag was #10 and she was named Decca, thus her daughter became Tennille. Daughter gave us some trouble at the outset; I wasn't there because it happened on the dayshift, but my boss's wife said she absolutely wouldn't go into the parlor for her first milking. They ended up having to bring the skidsteer in through the back of the holding pen to push her in! Each milking she got a little better, until last night she came into the parlor first in her group. I was so proud of her, lol. My boss came out as I was finishing up; I was about to let the cows out but he was at the top of the parlor doing something. I thought something was wrong so I went up to check, and he was scratching and petting her. He always looks embarrassed when he gets caught loving up on the cows. He mumbled something about not wanting her to be scared and scuttled off into the milkhouse. LOL

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It was really good!

My wife was a crazy person trying to coordinate everything. She didn't really even get to enjoy it. I'm demanding we cater any future weddings from now on.

The grooms family all stood around and talked while all of us on the brides side cleaned everything up, which really pissed us off.

And this weird raccoon in the bushes kept eating all the cake.

So we threw the flowers away and one of the grooms aunts dug them out and gathered a few flowers to take home. That's fine. But she left a huge pile of flowers and leaves on the ground. My wife says, "oh, I see you got some flowers! That's so fun! But there's kind of a mess". The lady says, "oh, I'm a witch and I left my broom outside haha" and walked away. My wife stood there stunned and was like, I guess I'll clean it up.

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Social skills, by the way, refer in the workplace to your ability to get along with people, to handle conflict appropriately, to communicate effectively, to navigate office politics, to know how to be diplomatic and to influence people, when to acquiesce and when to push back on people and how do so in a way that doesn’t make you look whiny or difficult, how to make people feel good in your presence and trust you.

Most of those things have nothing to do with fucking women, and most of those things are easily faked to get you through a day, and you mostly learn those skills in elementary school. Like, sorry boss, no one gives a shit about your grandchildren, they're just humouring you because you're the boss. Oh look, some woman is whiny because it's kindergarten and we all need to be best friends instead of just doing our job.

Shit's fake as fuck and because of that, easy as fuck.

I'd also say too, white collar types even at the highest level are the whiniest babies out there.

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Companies would rather hire someone who has the soft skills and needs a little bit of training in the job than someone who is a genius at what they do but whose personality and quirks cause chaos and unnecessary drama.

And I never said I was either of these.

Work social skills are easily faked. You learn how to get through a polite day with people you don't necessarily like or care about in elementary school.

Those are also not the same social skills necessary to snag women. In fact, they're kind of opposite of that.

I hire. I’ve had this conversation with dozens and dozens of hiring managers over the years and this is the consensus.

Most the managers I've ever known would rather just hire the person they can pay the least no matter what, even if they can't speak proper English (like you said, there's thousands of people out there with your skills and experience)

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Approach women to make them feel wanted.

"I don't want to do that because of x y z. It's unfair. Women should offer me their pussy and let me decide if I like them afterwards."

Be social.

"But I'm an introvert so l can't. It's unfair. I don't like parties and everyone is too shallow to be my friend. I don't want to be friends with women."

Work out.

"I have an ugly face and I'm not 6 feet tall so it won't make a difference. Women don't have to be fit, it's unfair."

Learn how to court and flirt.

"I won't pay for her pub dinner because that's unfair. And I also don't care if she cums, that's her responsibility. Females should tell me their n count and what they bring to the table."

Men ruin their own lives by whining and refusing to improve, and blame it on women, society and the narrative. Try telling a guy to improve and count the excuses.

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Approach women to make them feel wanted.

"I don't want to do that because of x y z. It's unfair. Women should offer me their pussy and let me decide if I like them afterwards."

Actually they'll call you a creep and phone the cops if you do that when they're not attracted to you 😂

Be social.

Hate it, most people are air-headed dumbfucks who are a waste of oxygen even on a good day. Only reason I'd do it is to get laid and then she'd expect me to continue being social, which I have no interest in

Work out.

Boring as all fuck

Learn how to court and flirt.

Flirting is work, shit sucks. Courting, hell fucking no, no one wants to be a beta chump.

Men ruin their own lives by whining and refusing to improve, and blame it on women, society and the narrative. Try telling a guy to improve and count the excuses.

No, I think it's more that most of us max out at beta bucks and no one wants to be that chump

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i actually don’t see how these things contradict each other, and i’m not even a feminist. guess i’m just playing devil’s advocate here.

correct me if i’m wrong about any of this, but i’m under the impression the gender pay gap is about women not being paid as much as men for the same jobs. i don’t see how the article that says “women are struggling to find men who make as much as they do” contradicts that.

the gender pay gap phenomenon isn’t pushing the narrative that women aren’t making good money (at least, that’s not what i’ve gotten from it), just that they’re not making as much as men in the same positions. i don’t see how this negates high-earning women struggling to find partners who earn as much or more than them.

side note: i think college-educated women will (at some point or another) begin struggling to find partners who have had the same level of education or higher, since more women are seeking higher education than men.

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People generally get their shit together around 28, at the latest. At least, that seems to be the cut off point for people who are improving (and will continue to improve) vs people who are stagnant in life

And girls around 28 are paying SUPER close attention to a guy with promise - he’ll be snatched up really quickly

I hate the terminology ppl use here but this "got his shit together at 28" dude could stay single because he didn't wanna betabuxx

I don't doubt it's suspicious though

It’s actually not - because of divorces, the wave of newly single people around them are pretty equally split. It’s worse for people of both genders who don’t want kids, though - lots of parents in that crowd

That's not my point - as sexual selectors, women see their options and pick - which is why it's worse, if you couldnt find something meaningful while at Ur peak, then it's telling

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Lol at that. In my profession Harvard grads suck ass, its only the
plebs who are fascinated by such institutions. It sounds impressive to
people who've accomplished nothing themselves.

I've got no love for ivy leaguers, but this is 1000% cap. But since you some weird axe to grind with them, I'll restate my point.

People with any real talent or potential to excel in life don't move to the south. Hell, if anything they move away the first chance they get. It's where you go to either a) downshift, coast, retire, and die off or b) settle for less because you couldn't make it work in the major leagues.

To use a sports metaphor, it's essentially a combination of the Senior PGA Tour alongside the AAA baseball league.

And, bruh, do you really want to compare poverty in LA vs. poverty in the south?

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It has nothing to do with the approacher vs approached dynamic. The fundamental problem is women's hypergamy and I can prove it to you in order to leave out any doubt.

The point you make should apply to gay dating apps too, one approaches and then they have to hope the other one reciprocates, do you know what the interesting part is? Gay men reciprocate most of the times when they are in the approached role, the steteotypical woman's role. Gay men, just like straight men, find most people of the gender they are attracted to physically attractive, the problem is only with women.

Let's ignore approaches, let's stick to likes and matches. I tried switching my preference to gay men on dating apps and my match rate was insanely high (40-50% match rate, the same as average to above average women on straight OLD). I was shocked, I matched with men of all looks levels, hundreds and hundreds of matches, including many hot guys. I received many cute messages and compliments, I literally never felt so desired. I'd say it's safe to assume that most gay men my age (23) find me physically/sexually attractive, this percentage is close to 0 with women. And this is not just me, this is every average looking straight guy who has tried the gay dating experience. And for your infomation, I'm an invol. celibate who gets one actual match a month at best on straight OLD, my bio has been checked by multiple women (I describe my career and hobbies in it).

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I didn't use Grindr, I used Bumble. My experiments lasted a couple of days and I repeated them a couple of times. When I first create my straight OLD accounts I usually get 5 likes at best in the first two days and than 0 in the following days, weeks and months. I think I would get even better result on Grindr since it's exclusively a hookup app and has more gay users.

You said the problem women have is to find someone "sexually attractive" and that only 1 every 100 men might qualify, considering the huge amount of women who report that men are too ugly on dating apps it really makes me doubt that the problem is only finding serious men for LTR and that that 1/100 attraction ratio doesn't have some truth. Those gay dudes I matched with were very attracted to me, made many compliments, sent cute messages, they felt aroused at the sight of my pictures just like I do when I see a cute woman.

I can concede that women may be picky because they are looking for someone compatible LTR-wise but that's not what you said. You identified the problem in the approacher vs approached dynamic as it applies to sexual attraction but, as we can see, men feel physical attraction to most people when they are in the approached role. If the approacher vs approached dynamic applied to sexual attraction is true it derives that women find way fewer people - of the gender they are attracted to - sexually attractive which proves the hypergamy theory. Alternatively, we can ditch your proveious theory completely, since it's a non-factor when we control for sexual orienation, and blame only the LTR vs hookup mentality that women and men enforce.

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What's the percentage of men women generally find sexually attractive enough? And what's the percentagte of all men women find relationship-attractive enough for a date?

I find 95% of all women my age sexually attractive, 10% of all women my age have enough LTR potential that I would consider going on a date with them if I was looking only for a LTR. I'll admit my physical standards are pretty low, for some reason I feel physical attraction to most women my age and I'm not less shallow than other men, it's just how my body reacts. I'd say the sexual attraction figure is closer to 50% for the average man in his 20s, basically like gay dudes.

From what I read on FDS and AskWomen it looks like women find 5-10% of all men sexually attractive and 5-10% of all men with relationship potential, this lead to tiny percentage of suitable candidates.

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What’s the percentage of men women generally find sexually attractive enough? And what’s the percentage of men women find relationship-attractive enough?

I’d say the overlap between the two is maybe 5% of the population? Or 7%? I’m just throwing numbers out, but it’s clearly a minority

Now, try finding someone within that 7% who also finds you both sexually and relationship-attractive. And add in the social custom of having to wait for that particular guy to ask you out

All the while, these guys you aren’t interested in are sending you dick pics you don’t want to see

I get it, I’m talking about finding a needle in a haystack while men don’t have a haystack. But I’m saying that going on gay Bumble and finding your haystack without ever attempting to look for a needle is misleading you here

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Me and my girl have a your turn my turn system when we go out to eat which is basically ever week. Today was my turn we went to lunch but her homegirl wanted to tag along I’m like cool. The bill comes and the waitress gives it to me. I take out my card and I count up everything me and my GF ate/drank and said put it on my card and the rest give to her(her friend). Her homegirl gave me this dirty ass look like “you ain’t gonna pay for me”. My GF saw the looks between us and started giggling lol.

Her friend was like “damn I have no cash and I don’t like paying with my card at restaurants”. I said don’t worry this place is cool they’ll gladly split it, not a big deal. We stayed like 15-20 mins after we paid to talk but you could tell the energy was different lol. Im not paying for your food sorry, we’re not friends. I was chilling though, got some fire box this morning, ate a good meal, got a manicure/pedicure, washed my car etc

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What are PPDs thoughts about having sex with someone while dating other people before exclusivity? In my opinion, it showcases af/bb for women quite well while it doesn't necessarily mean much of anything in men's case.

I think its pretty crappy to be having sex with people while dating others but it seems this is quite normal now. I had one woman reply to a comment I made that she broke it off with a FWB the day she became exclusive with another guy and that she stayed loyal to her new bf. She went on to comment that she wouldn't date someone like me because I "sound judgemental."

Personally I don't think that someone who is having sex with others up until the day they become exclusive with someone else is a good relationship prospect.

What do y'all think: yes, its crappy behavior, or no, its okay and no cause for concern?

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I know few people who moved here, but I guess that's because I live in the middle of nowhere. So one is a guy from Germany, he teaches German in a local college, but maybe he's returned to his country already and another hasn't really immigrated, but he visits Russia regularly. I think I know more people who moved away than who moved in.

You better have a job or a business, yes. You have to have one that you can work from home if you don't know Russian and don't want to teach English.

I can't really say whether Russia likes immigrants or not. People are usually pretty friendly towards to "white collar" foreigners. We have a lot of immigrants from neighboring countries who take low-paid jobs here and people tend to be far more hostile towards them. But I guess that's a common thing everywhere.

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Mods need to get tougher on smugness and passive aggressiveness.

I just had people reply to me with bs comments. One person typed a joke that they were speaking with a “trump voice” for some reason.

One person gave a horrible illogical argument, and smugly ended it with “nice try”. As if it was at all compelling.

And some people just comment “that’s not true” or “that doesn’t make sense”, but they provide no arguments to explain why they think that way.

This is not commutation. It’s certainly not debate. Mods should try to control this type of thing. Because I’m going to just launch personal attacks at them. Then I will evade if I get banned.

Passive aggression is not better than regular aggression. I’m not going to act civil while they act like this.

Imagine that you say “2+2=4”

And people reply “lmao, that’s not true at all. But it’s cute you think like that. Better luck next time. Trump voice: you’re fired! Lol hahaha.”

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Ok, that's stupid, there's no precedent for any of this, but a woman can fire an AR-15 JUST as easily as a man, the gun is lightweight and has little recoil. The great equalizer of modern firearms could give two fucks about evolution, give me the most biologically perfect dude (who is on team getting laid anyways but no matter) and give me a woman with a 9mm... Who wins? But for fun, I'll give you only 10% of chicks are good, given that men and women are 50/50 as it is, that's 70% vs 40%

But look at that 30% of men. You ever heard of a sexless Navy seal, Ranger, Fighter Pilot? You think those military boys wouldn't just get any of their own struggling, laid, and have them join team sex?

We have guys who are absolute geniuses in the art of sending souls to the afterlife, but yeah, that 70% of dudes who are tied together by nothing but their failures have the upper hand. Not a fucking chance

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woman can fire an AR-15 JUST as easily as a man

If you think the art of war is about firing an AR-15, you already lost. Individual proficiency with a weapon becomes almost irrelevant, although men will still be overall more proficient even here.

that's 70% vs 40%

lol that doesn't add up. I'll give you that 30% of men and 100% of women will have numbers advantage. They will not have any other advantage.

You ever heard of a sexless Navy seal, Ranger, Fighter Pilot?

I heard of a lot of scrawny autistic mass shooters that have higher k/d ratio than your typical ranger. All they did all their life was practice in the Call of Duty and military strategy games, they'll do OK. Their planning and situational awareness is off the charts.

And btw, we're talking like there won't be any navy seals or rangers in that 70%. If the ratio gets that high - there will be people with substantial combat experience and training in there. It will not be top 30% of men vs bottom 70% that's not realistic.

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There will be no "war" in that sense, more skirmishes and outbreaks of violence, think Myanmar, which means individual competency matters, a lot. Plus the 70% are the aggressors which inherently means they're more exposed/at risk, so they would have to be significantly better trained and proficient to have the impact you believe they would have...

Video games? Seriously? Shit time to pack it up, Bobby is on the field no-scoping everyone... Laughable.

Mass shooters exclusively hit unarmed soft targets for a reason, and when those become non-existent they'll fold quick. Are you even thinking this through?

And the warfighter will be swimming in poon. As the world becomes more and more violent in this scenario, those better suited to that environment are going to become the top men women want to bang... I don't think any of them will be sexless unless by choice.

Again, men bonded by failure of sex or trying to fuck will not outlast or out fight men and women bonded by protecting their families... You have to realize that?

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No, I picture angry people banding together over the lack of sex as a cause to kill and be killed over, the demographics aren't going to largely consist of the best and the brightest...

You realize that intelligence officers can be, and are, women (gasp) and that "Chad" isn't inherently dumb. Hell, the entire active duty military is like 1% of the population, just make sure they all have girlfriends and you're golden. Considering around half of them are married already... Even easier

I just don't see people not having sex as a reason to garner the resolve to start killing and raping your fellow citizens, but I absolutely see the people they're trying to kill and rape, as well as others, having the resolve to stop them...

That is generally how humanity works, whoever wants it more, wins...

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dude, kanye is straight up not there anymore. He's off dating another model, and living in another state. I don't want to analyze their relationship too much, but I don't think the idea you have is accurate either.

Its not about being 'beta', its literally about kim being expected to support Kanye no matter what, whether it was his latest insane take on politics or religion, or moving to wyoming, or running for president. HE literally made them live apart, it was his decision to move away from the rest of his family.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/elliewoodward/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-marriage-ended-extravagance

Kim sobs, “He deserves someone that can go and support his every move, and go and move to Wyoming. I can’t do that. He should have a wife that supports his every move and travels with him, and I can’t.”

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I will say - as someone who is involved in animal nonprofits - the fact that she’s doing what she’s doing is upsetting as all hell. And makes me concerned about her on multiple levels

Honestly she's just mentally unwell and also somewhat of a stereotypical "cat lady" who traps them and keeps some of them inside in order to have them fixed or adopted. She believes all cats should be indoors. Personally speaking, I don't think any small animals or humans should be left in her care at all.

You may not want to hear this right now, but the fact that she’s taking them to the vet is a good thing. There are a lot of way more painful and traumatic alternatives that are blood chillingly common

I wanted him to have a normal life and a normal death. He still had some time under his belt but she said he was "suffering" because of the constant bloody nose that she caused. She's also fairly narcissistic so she couldn't see how she was the cause of his condition because she's never at fault for anything and if you call her out, she either denies or tells you to leave.

I could talk about all of the shit that is her for hours, but I'm not going to. She just gets on my nerves in a bad way and there will come a day when we never speak again. She knows it because I've said it to her myself.

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I definitely understand where you’re coming from - my sister has given away every animal she’s ever had. And that’s best case scenario, she literally lost a cat mid-move this week, and I’m somehow more concerned for the animal she claims to love than she is. She’s annoyed I told her to post a pic to a lost & found group, and yelled at me

I definitely believe that those of us who have spent our lives surrounded by this personality type tend to “just accept it.” But when we see a small, defenseless life subjected to it, our emotionally healthy protective side comes out

Cutting someone off is very hard, even when you dislike them and have very little affection. You’re asked about them constantly, family members butt in and offer unsolicited advice (with zero knowledge of your “side”), and you do end up missing out on some family stuff

But the peace of mind is worth it. My life was drama-free for many years, and I miss it - even from afar, my sister is a cyclone that whips up my anxiety

That said, I will likely stay in touch so I can keep an eye on her kids. She so blatantly favors her daughter (molding her into a smaller version of herself) and shits on her eldest - I hope I can give him some peace of mind and the comfort of someone being in his corner

EDIT - I went on a bit of a tangent there, but I do think the most important part is that what you feel about the cat is valid and emotionally healthy. I’m so sorry you have to be a part of her cruelty

[–] TheBookOfSeil 0 points 1 point 2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Cutting someone off is very hard, even when you dislike them and have very little affection. You’re asked about them constantly, family members butt in and offer unsolicited advice (with zero knowledge of your “side”), and you do end up missing out on some family stuff

Ah. Well my family isn't as close so I may not have to deal with that. I can disappear if I really wanted to. I just lost my grandmother recently (her mother) and my grandfather is a 10 minute drive away. I've been watching over them for the last few years and waiting for them to go before I cut ties with my mom.

That said, I will likely stay in touch so I can keep an eye on her kids. She so blatantly favors her daughter (molding her into a smaller version of herself) and shits on her eldest - I hope I can give him some peace of mind and the comfort of someone being in his corner

Yeah the choosing favorites dynamic has affected our family greatly. Beyond repair actually. I'm sure he might appreciate it but I'm sure the being ignored and isolated will open his eyes to some things about life like it did for me. When I was younger, I wouldve liked to have someone there.

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You’ll be surprised. People remember details like your family - I was asked about my sister a lot, to people I forgot I had ever mentioned her to. I’m not telling you this to make you miserable, but just as a heads up - it threw me for a loop the first few times, before I learned to expect it

It was also pretty eye opening when a screenshot got back to me (that I’ve since looked up and verified that it’s real) of a social media post where my sister made a joke about having a sister and how no one knew … and she had like 50+ comments of close friends of her surprised she wasn’t an only child

choosing favorites dynamic has affected our family greatly

I’m so, so sorry you had to go through that. It’s a really fucked up way to raise kids, and there really are no winners

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Y’all ever hear of “blues dancing”?

In my mid 20s my mom’s eccentric life coach friend invited me to an “after hours club” at a speakeasy downtown. It was essentially a bar in the basement of a gothic church. The church rented out their space for a black box theater too!

When I arrived they had light refreshments and beer/wine. And really really good music playing on a record player they attached to a pretty sweet sound system.

Everyone there looked like Redditors met up with Tumblr people. All in their early 40s. I was one of youngest.

At first I was like wtf is this.

Also I’ve never done that style of dancing so I was observing on the sidelines. Anyway some nerdy man but with a cool style came over and guided me to the dance floor. I HAD A BLAST. Ended up dancing with multiple people. The works.

I think a lot of guys here would benefit from random fun vibey hobbies like that.

Inb4: Yes it can all be “cringe” but dammit live a lil!

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When the pandemic started, I realised that I would never go out on a date again. I'm too old and I can't be bothered. I'd rather invest my energy in myself, my dog, my few friends, and my career. I haven't got the energy to waste on dating any more. I'm not even slightly upset about the prospect of being single for the rest of my life.

I tried for over 25 years. I could have tried harder, but I also tried quite a bit harder than a lot of people that have had a lot more success than me. And the main positive that came out of it was that I confirmed to myself that I'm not repulsive and that there's nothing ultimately wrong with me. That is undoubtedly emotionally useful; conversely, it also seems a pretty poor return on the energy that I invested. And with my level of energy now beginning to diminish, I need to use it more wisely.

I suppose that I had some minor success, and I've managed to date quite a few attractive women in my thirties and forties. But nothing has ever quite worked out, and I'm old and tired and shagged out. I'm not chasing women around any more, I can't be fucked.

The funny thing about it is that whenever I meet people, particularly women, they can't understand why I'm single. I've had that experience consistently all of my life, particularly since I was adult enough to frequent workplaces. Thank God I haven't had a job for over a decade; the (sometimes well-meaning) intrusion of my colleagues into my private life would be increasingly unbearable.

I've done really well in my career. Virtually anyone would envy my lifestyle, and I didn't even work that hard to achieve it, as I was given a gift and it all came quite easily to me. I'm very grateful for what has happened to me. Frankly, I don't deserve any more luck than that. Not having a partner is probably just a valuable life lesson that you can't have everything that you want.

That's why I rarely post on here. I just don't have anything to say. I don't even particularly want to have sex any more, unless it was made unbelievably easy, which it never is.

Recently, I wrote a book with a guy about sex. It was essentially about all of the conquests that he'd enjoyed in his life. He claimed to have slept with thousands of women. I found it difficult to imagine how this thoroughly unpossessing, short, dumpy, not particularly charismatic, unintelligent guy had managed to achieve this. I wondered if he was a total fantasist.

On the other hand, I also felt glad that I won't have to suffer the ignominy of pursuing women when I'm his age, and that I won't still be trying to have intercourse when I'm in my eighties, attempting to mercilessly squeeze semen out of my withering genitals, at a time when my testicular glands are about as active as the nuclear reactors at Chernobyl that have been encased in steel and concrete.

Everything in life has its advantages and disadvantages.

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I found this post particularly relatable. So some genuine shit I'm interested in hearing. Feel free to answer any/all/none of these

I could have tried harder, but I also tried quite a bit harder than a lot of people that have had a lot more success than me. And the main positive that came out of it was that I confirmed to myself that I'm not repulsive and that there's nothing ultimately wrong with me.

What kind of things did you do that make you feel like you "tried"?

What kind of things do you feel you could have or would have done if you "tried harder"?

I suppose that I had some minor success, and I've managed to date quite a few attractive women in my thirties and forties. But nothing has ever quite worked out

What kind of reasons do you think it didn't work out? What qualms did you have in these relationships?

I've done really well in my career. Virtually anyone would envy my lifestyle, and I didn't even work that hard to achieve it, as I was given a gift and it all came quite easily to me.

What kind of work do you do? Do you feel like your "lifestyle" is any leverage for you attracting the women you might be interested in? Also what's your lifestyle like?

The funny thing about it is that whenever I meet people, particularly women, they can't understand why I'm single. I've had that experience consistently all of my life, particularly since I was adult enough to frequent workplaces.

Do you consider yourself "good looking"? Or more average?

He claimed to have slept with thousands of women. I found it difficult to imagine how this thoroughly unpossessing, short, dumpy, not particularly charismatic, unintelligent guy had managed to achieve this

Do you think he was being truthful? (Thousands seems logistically difficult if anything) If so, why do you think he did well?

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What kind of things did you do that make you feel like you "tried"?

I would say I have dated more women than most men, I have tried more routes to date women than most men, I have, I imagine, been rejected more than most men. Also, there was no light at the end of the tunnel where things actually worked out the way that I wanted, but I kept trying from my teens, through my twenties, throughout my thirties, and into my mid-40s. I just don't have anything left to give now. I'd rather concentrate on my writing.

What kind of things do you feel you could have or would have done if you "tried harder"?

I could have been more sociable. I'm not a social animal, and didn't want to invest energy and effort in this purely in the off-chance that I might meet someone. My experience is that when you do social things, all that happens is you meet men and women who already spoken for.

When I did social things, that was my experience. I never met anyone single or viable through this, or indeed through work. Nothing good ever happened from approaching a woman, or chatting a woman up randomly. I never got one date out of this. The only dates I've ever had have been through OLD, unless you count the fact that there was a married woman who worked in one of my workplaces for a while, and she was hugely attracted to me, we went out on one date, but she, understandably, got cold feet.

What kind of reasons do you think it didn't work out?

Oh God, endless reasons! Maybe I'll post a story each week for a while, and that can entertain and amuse you all! I think some of it is just pure bad luck.

Even the last woman I dated, we had a honeymoon period of three weeks, and then her life fell apart (through no fault of her own). She was quite a bit younger than me, she is really slim and attractive, she's super-smart; she's just finished her Master's in Publishing, and she's a great writer. I know she thinks a lot of me. You would think: "what could possibly go wrong?".

Even now, I'm still in contact with her, I spoke to her this week. We're still quite close. She could come and live with me tomorrow, I would look after her, she could do some freelancing in publishing and writing with no money pressure. But I know she doesn't want to isolate herself from her friends, and I know she won't go for it. She's actually supposed to be coming to stay with me next month; part of me thinks I should come on to her, and another part of me knows that it's a waste of time because she doesn't love me.

What qualms did you have in these relationships?

I never had any qualms, I always entered into everything with optimism and determination that I would find someone. I believed that I had a lot to give and offer. I still have a lot to offer, I just don't have anything to give.

What kind of work do you do?

I'm a writer. I've written about 30-35 books now. I want to focus on that and try to write 200-300 in the rest of my life. At the very least, I want to get to 100.

Do you feel like your "lifestyle" is any leverage for you attracting the women you might be interested in? Also what's your lifestyle like?

Maybe it is too sedentary. As I've said previously, I'm not a social animal. I've got a beautiful little house in the countryside, I live somewhere beautiful, there is literally a gorgeous view out of the back windows of my house. I'm free to come and go as I please, before Covid I could and would travel anywhere domestically or overseas, and I could do this at the drop of a hat. I like the outdoors, I'm willing to try new things. I'm never going to be a party person, and I wouldn't want a woman who is a party person, as we would be strictly non-compatible.

Do you consider yourself "good looking"? Or more average?

When I was younger, I would have said below average. But I know now that I'm not bad looking at all, and I'm probably significantly above average for my age.

Do you think he was being truthful?

I don't know. It seems a very strange thing to do to pay me thousands of pounds to write a memoir that is based on bullshit. Of course I had my doubts about some of his claims.

If so, why do you think he did well?

I think there are three basic reasons. Firstly, positive formative experiences. What you will find with a lot of guys who struggle, myself included, is that they have negative formative experiences that shape them. And vice-versa.

Secondly, he has probably been a much more sociable person than me. He had a job and lifestyle that resulted in him being in social situations and potentially meeting quite a few women, and it was perhaps a positive social situation that made him look good.

Thirdly, lack of quality control! For me, it's all about quality not quantity. I have, I think, reasonable standards, but I do have standards, and if women slip below those standards then I don't have any interest in being with them. I also have no interest in being in any situation that's seedy or low-rent.

I think it's fair to say that the same didn't apply to him!

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It’s ravishing if it’s Chad and raping if it’s not

Eh, sort of? The controlling factor here is misapplied - it doesn’t matter if it’s Chad or not. The issue is three-fold:

1 - I’ve said on PPD multiple times that I’ve been wildly, blindly sexually attracted to men that are objectively ugly. They weren’t Chads by any stretch of the imagination, but my attraction was there

2 - Specifically because my attraction was there, the ravishment was welcome

3 - Any hint of hesitancy on my part, and the guys did what TRP recommends (this was pre-TRP) - shut down and stopped engaging. Until I made my consent very clear. So again, not rape

you just pretended that you didn’t

Why do you guys pretend like abusive dudes beat the shit out of women on date #1? That’s not how abusive jackasses work. Of either gender

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why does everyone pretend women have this almost psychic intuition

I thought it was pretty obvious that it was a psychological crutch that makes people (read: some vocal women) feel like they have more control over their lives than they actually do

Don’t take those self unaware idiots seriously

when he does it to everyone else

Again, it’s a minority of men who are abusive. Don’t paint them all with the same brush

But yes, if someone gets into a relationship with a guy knowing he’s been physically abusive with past partners, that’s a head scratcher. Same with cheaters. But both of those groups are about as small as the abusive guys, so why focus on them?

sadomasochism

The sub has full control to shut everything down at any time, otherwise it’s a sexual assault and/or rape (if the dominant partner ignores the no)

BDSM isn’t rape, it’s intense play acting

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No, they’re really not. Women are more violent in intimate relationships, according to stats. But both are a minority

Both numbers are severely under-reported, especially because women make excuses for violent men all the time

That’s actually an interesting phenomenon that I have no doubt exists, but has never occurred to me. I’m about to go down that google rabbit hole looking for studies (if any exist)

You probably won't find any because studies that paint women in a negative light don't get conducted.

Something to add to this: There are women who like it rough but mixed with women's utter disdain for men who can't unconsciously read them like a book, they will seek out abusive men who will do that shit naturally to them or only take a bit of button-pressing to do it naturally rather than a guy they have to tell to slap them or slap them hard, as an example.

Anyhow, my point stands that men are more likely to run into abusers. Just look at the DV stats in lesbian relationships

Lesbians tend to match up in a similar way to straight couples, one is more feminine and one is more masculine. The more masculine one is likely to be the violent one

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My dad left me, he divorced my mom and left the country as soon as he found his new european wife...he kinda always said we were weight to his progress...

When he left the country i had a great depression, i was 11, he said he was going to buy some toffee before flying out, for me, so i stayed at the door, when my mom came back from work she told me he left already, he was on the plane, i didnt believed it and i kept staring at the door, my mom then called my auntie who happen to be his sister and the wife of my mom brother (lol i have a weird family), and she confirmed it. I didnt stop looking at the door for a good week i think.

Did a depression, stopped eating, stopped going out, i was slowly dying, i was sleeping all day because i had no strenght, i started having stomach issues because i had nothing in my belly because i was refusing to eat. I got a desease who happens when people are in severe starvation, basically the acidity of belly was so high that it started damaging my stomach and i wasnt able to sleep on my belly, i was in a lot of pain, my mom was going insane she never thought that small incident who trigger that in me, then one month after he arrived my father called me, i was dumb enough to think he would say he was coming back, but i mean he was creating a new life for himself. I think it was the moment i started getting better

My mom tried everything, therapy, hitting me lol, forcing me to eat, making me drink yogurt and medecine to heal my stomach...nothing really worked.

Then my grandpop got involved, i never had much of a relationship with him, but he told my mom he was taking me, i refused, i said i didnt want to lose her also, and he yelled at me to stfu and get in the car LOL. Was effective ol.

From now on i was living with him and my grandma for the rest of the summer (3 months), i was playing with the dogs outside, helping with house, digging holes (i never understood why he made me dig so many holes in the ground tbh), painting furniture and walls, playing soccer from 8 in the morning to 6 in the afternoon with the kids from the area, he made me follow him everywhere he went, from the local market to his "business trips" to his best friend an hour away from his house.

And my grandma made me food to stop starving myself, i came back to my mom all fixed up lol. And it is mostly due to my grandpop so like thats my father figure.

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I miss my dad every day and I think about him all the time. Fortunately, he was such a forceful presence while he was alive that he cast a long shadow that will not dissipate for a very long time indeed.

Mr. Arthur is a fantastic father and seeing him with our children is one of the chief joys of my life. Thing 1 is old enough now that they can INTP together for hours about cars; when the twins were born, he was the only person that Thing 2 wanted and she would scream herself hoarse if anybody else (including me) tried to hold her. Thing 3 is still small enough that he can pick her up and zoom her through the air as she screams with joy, which he does, often.

He says he has enough aloha shirts but I think that I am going to noncon him into one more for Father's Day. There is one that I know he will like, because he expressed astonished admiration for it when I showed it to him.

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My dad is just really great. Even from when I was really young, I remember so much, like him reading to us every night before bed, or brushing my hair (a little too roughly, lol), or always being willing to answer every question I asked (and good lord, I asked a ton— i remember him trying to legit explain how a computer works when I was maybe 7?). Or as an adult, supporting me in my studies, coding etc (and of course telling me how much easier and faster everything is nowadays— such a dad thing to do, lol). I know he’s part of the reason I went into a stem field— he (and my mom) both supported me in being ultra curious and inspired me to study science, math, etc. He’s just always been there for me. And it’s sooo wonderful watching him with any of the grandkids— watching his face light up and carry a rugrat around, and watching the kid want grandad to play. He’s awesome :)

I see so many of the same qualities in my husband now too. Watching him with our new baby is just making me fall in love with him even more. And… I have absolutely no idea what to do for him for his first Father’s Day 😫He’s just so impossible to buy stuff for, and prefers doing event type stuff together, but that’s more than a little hard to swing right now.

Edit: also, how is it possible you are getting salty replies to this of all posts??

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My dad is the best. All of my friends are jealous of my sister and I for how great my dad is. I know my mom may have wished she wasn’t the breadwinner but she truly married a man who made up for that in every other way. My dad is 6 foot plus, masculine, funny, took us to every game doctors appointment recital etc, cooks all the time, remembers everything we love to do, supports us in everything, was always the one to take us roller blading and bike riding every weekend, never is aggressive (only to threats to our family), generally sweet guy, is amazing with kids, cares about people though he forgets to check in on them 😂 etc. I feel genuinely blessed and appreciative in this regard.

I’m planning to get him and my mom some NBA playoff tickets for Father’s Day.

(My dad waited until 34 to have kids. It’s possible he wouldn’t have been as great as a dad if he knocked one of his earlier ladies up circa 21 or something.)

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shoutout to my dad for always having my back when mom is pissed at me (even when i’m wrong), for always showing up when i really need him, for being supportive of me even when he doesn’t agree with my decisions, for being protective of me, for instilling his love for music in me, for showing up to all my shows in school, for never making me feel uncomfortable about my periods and other lady stuff, for giving me a great childhood, and for spoiling the shit out of me all my life lol

he taught me how to swim, how to speak french, how to drive, how to iron my clothes, how to clean appliances, how to use a computer, how to fix up stuff around the house, how to apply for a loan, and plenty of other things. we’d be here all day if i were to list them all.

one thing i really appreciate now is how much better our relationship is in my adult life because he can be more real with me now. he’s actually a lot cooler than i thought he was as a teenager.

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The recent "wait to have sex" threads expose the unhealthy view of sex and relationships many of those who post here have.

Men who expect women to sleep with them early "because she did it for Chad" are distrustful and see relationships as a masculinity competition with ficticious men. Imagine dating someone you need to reassure 24/7 about any past relationship you might have had with other men.

Women who "make men wait" come from a place of fear. Even if they don't necessarily see sex as a prize, they deep down feel that sex cheapens them and are afraid by how men see them. Despite the narrative of female power in sexual relationships, the truth is the decisions made out of fear are anything but power and make you more vulnerable to manipulation.

Healthy people let sex happen spontaneously. They don't need an excuse to go at the pace they do, whether fast or slow. They also have no problem for breaking the relationship up due to sexual incompatibility in attitudes whether sex happened or not.

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Women who "make men wait" come from a place of fear. Even if they don't necessarily see sex as a prize, they deep down feel that sex cheapens them and are afraid by how men see them. Despite the narrative of female power in sexual relationships, the truth is the decisions made out of fear are anything but power and make you more vulnerable to manipulation.

Healthy people let sex happen spontaneously. They don't need an excuse to go at the pace they do, whether fast or slow. They also have no problem for breaking the relationship up due to sexual incompatibility in attitudes whether sex happened or not.

I'm feeling as a parrot now, but I'll repeat it anyway. Some people wait to have sex because they need time to develop sexual attraction and trust. It's not about fear, it's about being ready.

I guess it's also different for less experienced people. My husband and I weren't talking about any timeframes, but when we were ready we just agreed to have it "next time", when we both would be prepared and actually have contraception.

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I just had the most stupid but not so crazy thought.

It's very absurd, but bear with me, I think it's not that crazy.

Getting in a accident and losing both of my legs below the knees would actually have an overall positive impact in my life. Let me elaborate.

1 - In those kind of amputations, without nerve damage, the amputee usually recovers quite quickly. There is some trauma and pain, but the human body is quite good at adapting to such scenarios.

2 - It would make me more grateful for being alive. Surviving with a scar like that would remind me how fragile life is.

3 - I could finally become 6ft tall. I could buy longer prosthesis and be 4 inches taller.

4 - It would be way easier to find a job. There is a law in my country requiring that companies hire a certain quota of people with disabilities. With my degree, I would definitely get a job.

5 - People would respect me more. People would take pictures of me at the gym and post things like "what is your excuse?" People with disabilities are respected as hard working people with laser focus.

6 - Special parking, less taxes and so many other benefits.

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Straight from the source

This is me but with the toxic guy I never even dated. Mean boy lives rent free in my head. He probably wouldn’t even respond if I texted him. I think it’s just haunting to see a glimpse of what could’ve been but never know for real.

For the Toxic's, I swear I've had one or two that I've met that I literally go through the same thing with. I went on one date with this guy two and a half years ago and he was a compete ASSHOLE. I still talk about the date today, even though it was a total bust. This guy even had the audacity to text me the next morning about how "it's not going to work between us and you need someone who is blah blah blah (I can't remember the reason but still). I about died laughing. UM, yea DUDE NO SHIT ITS NOT GOING TO WORK.

Very interesting how she first admits she still thinks about it and then goes on to cope by saying she laughed and it was obvious

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I've spoken to plenty gay men who have the same opinion that there is such a thing as too big and bigger is certainly not necessarily better.

Size is absolutely overrated - that's not a lie. Is it completely meaningless? To many people probably not - if you like penetrative sex and it's too small to get in you you're probably gonna have an issue with it.

Most women that think they like an 8 inch cock actually like a 5 inch cock and have been lied to by all the men they've slept with. Unless you're in the habit of whipping out a tape measure with every new partner, you're not going to know the size.

Also.. I've never once had a conversation about dick size with any of my female friends, but men ask about it constantly.

"What's the biggest you've had?"

"Dunno"

"Well guess. Give me an estimate? 6? 7? 8? And how big around?

"Dude. Literally do not have a clue. Have never measured"

"Yeah but just guess"

I've had that conversation more than once. It's fucking ludicrous.

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Do you want to hear a really shitty story? A true shitty story.
A woman got pregnant with a celebrity, she lied to him that she was on pill, and she actually planed for him to impregnate her. There was this whole drama in media in which she basically tried to suck as much money out of him, now I'm not defending the celebrity guy he did cheat on his wife after all so I do not feel one bit sorry for him.

The thing is that media put her on the pedestal, she was showcased as some sort of a virgin Mary, Mother Teresa, a role model. And she was quite vocal at shaming him for not taking care of his kid.

A month or two latter, one journalist actually does his job and investigates a bit, and he founds out that previously she did the same thing. She ran of and left her son in the care of his non-bio-dad.

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The existence of these contradictory opinions does not change the fact that individuals are free to disagree about what makes "family."

They can define, doesn't mean it's true. I can call someone my brother, doesn't mean he really is.

It existed, yet people had virtually no way of confirming whether or not the children they raised actually were their blood. In the absence of such certainty you cannot claim that DNA was the sole basis of family.

That's why they repressed women sexually, they punished cheating, promiscuity, etc. Because there was no other way to confirm, so they made it very hard for women to lie about paternity. This wasn't case in hunter gatherers that's why every men took care of all the kids because they had no clue which one was their children, women in hunter gatherers were promiscuous.

Family structure was created after people started owning property and it was designed for men to raise children, have legacy and pass their assets to them, that's why DNA is most important, especially for men. You can't tell what's important and what is not.

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They can define, doesn't mean it's true. I can call someone my brother, doesn't mean he really is.

You can say two men aren't brothers based on the criteria you have personally chosen for family, doesn't mean they really aren't.

Family structure was created after people started owning property and it was designed for men to raise children, have legacy and pass their assets to them, that's why DNA is most important, especially for men.

We literally already talked about how adoption of adult males in ancient Rome was used as a method for passing on legacy/inheritance. Though passing on your inheritance to one's own blood was preferred, not everyone had that option. So adopting a young man you trusted/respected as your own son and giving him your family name was an acceptable alternative.

Ironically, the passage of assets is a precise example of why blood was not the sole determinant of family. Men who couldn't produce heirs of their own safeguarded their legacies through adoption.

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Breakups via text and Ghosting have became such a millennial/Gen Z thing because of women and them frequently nexting guys due to the paradox of choice. And top 20%-30%men having near endless options to choose from because of this.

Ghosting is a uniquely identifiable practice among the younger generation of women and top % men.

If you ask me, its best if men and women do it face to face. Because if women and top % men frequently do the breakups/ghosting in a 'out of sight out of mind' attitude, then they will enable a culture of non accountability and we will create "disposable" culture around human relationships too like we do with many, many other things (food, clothes, plastics, etc)

Sure, it will help you in the short term because you won't face the intense backlash from the breakup, but in the long term, the more you grow old, the more you feel the sting of that cold hearted rejection if you were in the receiving end.

You will literally feel helpless and wasteful as a person. Guys know this feeling far too well and single older women are slowly feel this too the more they try and fail to secure commitment from a stable man.

Men will feel like walking ATM machines whose only utility is his "provider" role and nothing else, and women will feel like cum dumspters whose only utility is getting fucked and nothing else.... aren't these already the biggest complaints from men and women nowadays?

To quote Chernobyl, "When the truth offends, we lie and lie, until we can no longer remember it is ever there. But it is still there. Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth."

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Q4RP: Does "RP" equal the following:

Someone who truly believes that BLM is a marxist black supremacist domestic terrorist group?

Someone who genuinely believes giving women the right to vote was a mistake?

Someone who thinks voting rights should be restricted across the board en masse?

Someone who believes LGBT culture has gone too far in the U.S.?

Someone who thinks women are, generally, too promiscuous these days?

Someone in my recent post history suggested such.

I never interpreted "red-pilled" as meaning the above.

A person can have the above beliefs. Those beliefs, particularly 2 & 3, signal someone with an extreme "alt-right" heavy slant. Nothing more.

The above person could still be completely "blue-pilled" in their interactions with women, their understanding of their own SMP, etc.

Furthermore, being red-pilled in a broader context doesn't mean "I want to revert back to when XYZ hierarchy was in place", it means "I understand how things happened and why they happened and what may happen and where I fit into it all." It's descriptive, not prescriptive.

But I could be wrong.

Is that what being red-pilled means to the red-pillers?

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What’s interesting is the guy I’m talking about claims he’s from that era or close to it. You saw he tagged me.

According to him the TRP sub, when he was on it, was a safe space for hyper “conservative” ideals. Where they could say alt right thought and be commended for it. And so I think he thinks because TRP attracted a lot of deep forum alt righters, “Red Pill” means that.

So someone like me who is essentially Red Pilled but doesn’t have anti-black/racist, anti-woman, or anti-gay leanings doesn’t fit his tribe of conservative thought.

He also claims to speak for Republicans though his replies feel fringe ideology to me. People like that are the reason the GOP struggles to attract black people for one. Even if a black person shares some of the same principles they don’t want to share space with someone who thinks racial pejoratives are “real red pill man thought.” Black men like their mothers and sisters. They don’t want to share space with someone who wants to turn back her voting rights. Or his for that matter lol. I don’t know whose voting rights he was thinking of.

Ultimately I think he just misses his internet “safe space.” Extremists should go to Parler or other places to feel safe and around the like minded. Similarly I don’t mind FDS but “scrote” talk is for that sub not for PPD.

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Honestly? One doesn’t have to subscribe to these beliefs to be RP

That said, the overlap between the manosphere and alt-right beliefs has been pretty thoroughly documented and explored. I don’t really think there’s anything surprising there

This is actually why I’m so vocal in pushing back against the expanding definitions of “incel” and “sexless” that (according to that 27% stat) now include gay men, bi men, and men in prison

The fact is that the incel/RP online communities had a huge reputation hit with ER and the like. The only people who stand to benefit from expanding these definitions to include “normies” are people looking to push an agenda

(And this is not to say that incels and sexless men don’t exist - they do. But they’re not 30% of the population, and their ranks do not include gay men FFS)

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Meh, I’ve seen that from both sides too. When there is a big income difference, initially it’s a blow, but down the road if he is a high earner he bounces back pretty easily. Ten years down the road she’s always in a worse position then when they were married.

Income over time beats assets for most couples Most Americans have little net worth outside of home equity “The median net worth of all Americans is $104,000. The median net worth excluding equity is $34,500 – which means home equity accounts for 66.83% of total net worth.”
So often she gets half the house and little else. And that’s often money both of them would never have saved anyway if they were single, since single people rarely buy expensive houses that appreciate and rent instead.

Most of these guy crying about alimony and divorce rape pshaw. Everyone here is apparently Jeff Bezos.

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CMV:

Manosphere men openly love intrinsically masculine women (a lot of these women are trad-cons) that need femininity training (re: RPW) that have more masculine thinking patterns (see: conservative women with fake 'feminine external appearance') + innately more masculine behaviors. The majority of 'feminine' training from RPW is masculine not feminine (re: stoicism + hypersexuality + pseudo-submission). Because the men that go to RP are innately more feminine (or less masculine than the norm).

Average women
More 'masculine' thinking men that do not require the assistance.

It is possible these women have higher levels of testosterone than:

Average women
Highly "feminist" and liberal women (innately feminine women).

Hyperfeminine women are actually insufferable; like FDS. That sub is all estrogen - femininity on crack.

"Radical feminists" are inherently feminine.
"FDS" is inherently feminine.
"Liberal" women are inherently feminine.

All women exhibiting behaviors common with women with high estrogen.

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All "highly regarded" women worshipped within the Manosphere are inherently masculine and prized.

Karen Straughan looks like a butch lesbian.

Camilia Pagila needs to come out the closet.

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why do you give a fuck about these people opinions tho?

it’s not that i give a fuck about their opinion on how i feel about myself, per se.

more just me questioning why society doesn’t like self-assured individuals, especially when their confidence is warranted.

it’s like how people love when women are beautiful and don’t know it; but when a beautiful woman recognizes and admits to believing she’s beautiful too, people react negatively and accuse her of being vain or egotistical.

we all know that people pass trying to undermine someone confidence as trying to humble them, never fall in that trap, being overconfident even narcissitic will always be better than be unconfident.

this is actually a good point. i mean it’s great for the individual, because it is better to be overconfident than it is to be unconfident.

on the flip side; narcissism can, and often does, negatively affect the individuals having to deal with it. so there’s pros and cons ig.

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it’s not that i give a fuck about their opinion on how i feel about myself, per se.

Get on the program lil mama

it’s like how people love when women are beautiful and don’t know it; but when a beautiful woman recognizes and admits to believing she’s beautiful too, people react negatively and accuse her of being vain or egotistical.

Because people want to control your level of confidence, if i can control how you feel about yourself, i am able to control you.

People use shaming langage to basically control people.

Also i think narcissism is actually good lol, but thats my own opinion, most narc people in my life are actually doing fine, they take so much pride in themself that they never allow themself to lose/fail,

i was a smart ass kid, and when i would go, hey i am smart, people would be like hey relax you arrogant, my mom told me, you think the king dont introduce himself as a king? since this day i understand that the only people who try to humble just want to shame you in a passive agressive way

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Not exactly.

Its kind of like those big ass trawlers that catch fish in our oceans in a industrial scale. Not only do these ships catch fish with such high efficiency and in mega quantities, they destroy the everything that comes in their path (fishs they don't want, marine mammals, even sea birds, etc) They literally destroy the ocean's ecosystem in the process.

Its kind of like that. Any woman who rejects a man because he's "porn oriented" is going to face a uphill battle because porn is widespread everywhere.

In manosphere we call this phenomena, "clocking out." Meaning men with potential giving up on dating and reducing the dating pool for women less and less.

Take me for example. I may not be a total chad, but whenever I go out, I definitely get interest from women my age for things that's more than casual lots of times. I reject these 'soft' proposals from women because I am not interested in any type of long term relationship with a woman.

But because of my mostly introverted personality and non threatening appearance and above average height, they all shoot their shot anyway. (indirectly of course through smiles, eye glances, recommendations, body language, etc)

In other words, based on my experience over the past 3 years specifically, I do qualify for the "eligible bachelor" label that women talk about, but I refuse to identify being an "eligible" man for these women.

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I think everyone knows that sexlessness in men causes aggy men and aggy men become “bad actors” in a “society.” It’s why I’ve never related to the phrase “sexually frustrated.” Not having had sex doesn’t make me aggy or frustrated. But I do believe it’s a phrase most men and perhaps some women relate to. But especially men. Testosterone is a thing.

Outside of legalizing prostitution, I’m not sure how to help men get sex without creating a draconian world.

I actually think TRP and things or mentalities like it are the best option.

I think men who absolutely cannot improve any aspect of their SMV or RMV are going to suffer.

I think men who are natural shut-ins, neurotic, high-inhib, antisocial, etc. are going to suffer the most of all men, even worse than “physically unattractive” men.

Neurotic men seem to care about “low n” and/or “virgins” and/or “never being a BB!!!!” and/or “I’m not an 11/10 so it’s not worth it” and/or “why should I have to looks-max or SMV-max take me as I am!” etc.

I think digital technology has actually aided a world where people are becoming less socially-adept and the people whose personalities lean antisocial are doubling down in this comfort to their acute detriment. This detriment is especially pronounced for men since a major component of female arousal, and thus male “game,” is adept sociability. (See NLP.)

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Let me try this again. Relationship and marriage minded women who aren’t AF/BBing are the most likely to have a low body count. Redpilled men expect women to wait for the right guy before they have sex because it doesn’t seem fair to whoever the “right” guy is to have to deal with whatever potential baggage and possible STDs and feelings of emasculation that come along with that and if women care about her future husband/boyfriend then they should care about him not having to go through that and before u say std testing I just want to add that no std testing is 100% effective and herpes does exist is very common, is incurable, is hard to always accurately test for and can have lasting and potentially serious health consequences that aren’t totally understood. Does that kinda make sense maybe?

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This is why subreddits like this are stupid. If we listened exactly to what women said on here, a man would never approach a woman or ever get laid/into a relationship (which is happening at an increasing rate).

The unfortunate part of "putting yourself out there" is you do have to occasionally risk being seen as a creepy guy. As long as you can read the woman's reactions early and accurately enough though, it should mitigate any major repercussions.

I think the comment is fair. But you’re debating there like you’re on PPD. All of your comments under that OP are antagonistic. And the overall gist of the OP is the influx of inappropriate messages that OP received which makes your comment standalone eh.

So you’re downvoted because

1) you insulted the sub and pissed off the regulars 2) you strawmanned - the women replying to you are saying it’s about reading the context. And the one guy you replied to who said he met his wife on LinkedIn took a big risk and. It could have gone either way. Or maybe he’s not giving full context. Maybe they were already flirting so it wasn’t a random PM like “hey girl ya cute”. It probably evolved over a convo which no woman is dismissing. 3) your debate style is too PPD. We allow all of that callous convo and “arguing” but that’s not a debate sub. Your comment style is “who wants to battle me next!!!” Lol

That’s why I said “no sense of context.” Place and time my friend.

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Men aren't afraid of looking like an asshole though. Women calling you an asshole as a man generally isn't a hinderance to dating/sleeping with those women. Asshole is what women call you when you push their boundaries but they find you attractive and are somewhat open to you doing that. And you have to do that in order to approach/flirt with a woman.

Men are afraid of being called creeps because not only does it shut down his attempt to approach, the accusation poisons the well and makes him a social pariah in the bar/club etc. It implies nefarious intentions where there likely are none. Being called a creep results in every woman who hears be disgusted by you, and every white knight who hears potentially aggressive towards you.

In comparison, there really are no negative repercussions for looking like, or being called an asshole, and in many cases there are positive ones. Women generally even laugh when they call you an asshole and it's a term of endearment.

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There's a big difference between approaching a woman like an "asshole" or someone who is "aggressive" vs "creep"

There really isn't, two men can try the exact same approach, one being called an asshole, while the other is called a creep.

Why? Because the part bloops really don't want to admit is how much looks come into it. I used to have a "Chad" friend. His approach technique was to walk up to a girl, smack her ass and tell her "We're fucking tonight." Considering how so far beyond being socially acceptable that is, you'd expect him be called a creep over and over. Not once was he ever called a creep, because he was a good looking, in shape, confident guy. It was "OMG, you're such a dick! TeeHee." "Lol you're such an asshole". And the majority of those women went on to sleep with him regardless.

Now imagine an ugly, shy guy trying that exact same approach. Do you think he would be more likely to be called an asshole, or a creep? And potentially even be reported to the authorities? I think we both know the ugly guy would undoubtedly be called a creep for this behavior, when my old friend wasn't.

If some men can approach like a "creep" and be successful, but others can't, then is the approach really creepy? Or is it in fact the man? And if it's the man, then we need to accept that "creepy" is actually just muh feelz speak for "ewww that guy grosses me out."

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Lemmmy give some of you younger but not neurotic dudes some advice for a LTR.

Do you like sex? I mean do you think about it a lot, fantasize about it, etc?

If no, ignore the following advice, its going to fuck your life, if yes, continue.

If you like sex you want a woman who likes sex, a lot, like gets sopping wet when you breath on her neck.

Now those women are going to have a high n, because, they like sex. Its current year and few women with a throbbing vagina are going to be waiting for "Mr. Right" because the sky god told them they would go to bad places when they die.

So either you find them when they are young and haven't had a lot of chance to get a high N or you are SOL and need a high n woman.

But ok these women like sex, studies show they will cheat, etc etc. And they probably will if you don't keep their toes from falling asleep.

So you need to find that woman who likes sex as much or slightly less than you, and you must maintain yourself to provide it.

If you get fat and she stays hot, you deserve for her to walk out, you did a long term bait and switch. You find your drive is going down? Get that T level checked. You have to be the man they need if they are going to be the woman you want.

I personally got very lucky with my wife, as when they are low n and young you are gambling a bit on their long term sex drive. If you are in your mid 30's you are better off with a higher n woman in her late 20's as like you are vetted for being successful they are for being horny.

Now this is just the sex part, character is just as big a part, if she cheated in the past, mental issues, fluctuates in weight a lot, probably want to avoid her for an LTR.

Most of my wives vanilla friends are in the sex once a month category just to keep their husbands from going insane. Don't be that guy!

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Ok, they can have sex in relationships. MUCH more of it in fact.

How do you get more sex in a relationship?

1+1 = ?

If men can handle going a few months without getting laid without going insane ,women (who have infinitely lower sex drives) can handle it too.

Its not about handling it, men do it because they have to, either by choice due to work (and women can do it too) or because they have no options. Women have more options, but if I had women falling all over me in my 20's you bet my N would have been whore like.

Your wive's vanilla friends just aren't attracted to their husbands (because they view them as beta).

I love when psychics give their supernatural opinion. These women aren't cheating, one I know confessed to my wife that she has no sex drive at all and only does it because she loves her husband but its not something she has any desire for. Its not just a black and white "shes not into you".

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How do you get more sex in a relationship?

Because no matter how much of a slut she is, you have much more sex in a relationship. I have sex tens of times per week, for a single woman to reach similar numbers she must find a different guy every second day or constantly have FWBs on rotation both of which would quickly elevate her n count into the triple or more digits.

Its not about handling it, men do it because they have to, either by choice due to work

And if she wants men to consider her for anything serious, she'll have to do it too.

These women aren't cheating,

Did I say they were cheating or didn't love their hubby? They love them in a filial way. If they started desiring someone else they would "magically" start having a libido again. Sometimes it is black and white.

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I've been here for about 7 years. When I first joined the mods were drok, alreadyredschool (who I think started the sub and was also a mod at TRP) and fiat_lux who were all RP men, hyperrreal who was a purple pill man, draku who was an MRA, Leane Genova who was a blue pill woman and I think there was one other blue pill woman. You are just wrong, there was a time on this sub when red pillers ruled the roost. Hell there was a time when this sub and r/thedonald shared a couple of mods.

The tenor of this sub used to be much more red pill. I'm not saying it's that way now; if you joined in the last 3-4 years you probably weren't around for it. But it was true at one point. I don't know what your issue is with Griddy but in any case she became a mod much later than the period I'm talking about, and iirc the round of nominations in which she became a mod is one of the times we actually called for red pill male mods and none volunteered.

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My issue with Griddy is that she always has been, is today, and forever will be far left/blue and continue to purport that she is much more moderate than she ever was or will be. She may have fooled you and others with her sweet words but I never did and never will buy her act.

You don’t like that I’m liked by many for being viewed as measured and reasonable wrt manospherian debate topics. I don’t tend to have extremist reactions in debate which many perceive as having had moderate interactions with me. Because you believe me to be “far left” and “blue,” you hear that and believe they’re talking about political leanings I suppose. And even still, you have yet to explain what makes me “far left” and “blue.” You haven’t quoted me nor defined your position or what “far left” means. You were more honest below where you made it clear that you think I’m not nice. When people describe me as measured and fairly reasonable, for some reason this unnerves you. That’s a personal problem.

My presence on this sub personally incites you, and that can be that.

The most right-wing mod you have is a RP moderate, not a deep crimson pill.

That said, your conception of Red Pill would remain incorrect either way. Red Pill is an amoral descriptive empiricism explaining male/female relational dynamics that happens to attract a lot of individuals, including tradcon-minded men. “Sexual strategy” is in the tagline of the TRP sub. Overlap and intersections don’t mean what you wish they did. Red Pill =! “right winger.” Learn to deal with that; or continue asserting that it does as you incorrectly do.

You’re reacting that PPD isn’t a tradcon clubhouse. It never was. That has nothing to do with “Red Pill.” That’s simply you reacting and using me as your Boogeyman.

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Your interpretation of me, my political views, my "pill" leaning, are in my view wrong, because you and a couple other commenters seem to believe that my definition of TRP is not correct. I disagree, but in fairness, I could have done a better job explaining myself.

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I believe, and have enough evidence and experience through the years to know that you are not moderate, no matter how hard you try to convince me you are. I never commented on your behavior as a moderator, I commented about your beliefs.

I said the following:

It was always a blue pilled userbase with a blue leaning mod base that has simply become bluer over time.

and

The fact that GridReXX became a mod tells me everything I need to know about the leftward shift on this subreddit.

I never criticized your behavior as a moderator. I think you do a good job; I have no reason to believe you do not. I commented that I do not believe the ideological leanings of the moderation team as a whole is moderate. I think the moderation team is solidly blue. That bothers me only a little bit because I wish it were moderate, and had more RP men on it. What bothers me even more though is the false assertion that this blue moderation team is actually purple, and the assertion that it always was purple (it wasn't), and that it had plenty of RP men solidly into RP (it never did), and that my complaints are invalid because the moderation team has always tried to recruit RPers (I don't believe this) and that they always refused (this I would believe had there were active recruitment efforts for them).

Ignoring whether or not they wanted it, there were RP men in the past that were never even offered an opportunity to moderate, even though they followed all the rules, and had good relationships with the moderators of the era. There were men that were solidly red pill, and I mean genuinely redpill, not right-wing/republican which I used as a stand-in in my earlier comment, that after months of participation were considered extreme, radical, unstable, crazy, and ridiculed by others, and were never shown a modicum of respect. That was never the case for the blue-pillers. They were always taken more seriously for positions of power.

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In the other thread, I used political views as an example, as a stand-in for RP views because it was at the top of mind. Perhaps it was not the best example to use. I still believe an intersection exists, the intersection is important, and it is valid to use it as an example--though it probably isn't the best and if I could I would reframe my argument--because an intersection of views have always existed.

Let me define, what I think is far left since you asked, although my views are not going to be the views of all. I can give several examples, but I'll touch on two, one regarding social views, and one regarding economic views.

Regarding social views, I assume that you accept the argument of transgenderism. That is, a man can become a woman and a woman can become a man if deep within their minds they truly believe they are a woman or a man. I reject this view. A man is a man and a woman is a man and if a man/woman chooses to mutilate their body to achieve tranquility between their body and soul, then they have fundamentally rejected the compact between their body and soul that was given to them by god almighty (or, at the very least, biologically speaking, their mother and father). Thus, transgenderism is immoral and should not exist in a sane society. That is my view, and a view that many conservatives hold. These are the "real" conservatives as I like to call them, not "court-jester conservatives" who exist solely to please liberals.

Regarding economic, here's an example. Recently there is a push by the left to create a standard federal minimum wage. I argue that a minimum wage is antithetical to the free market. An employer and an employee should bargain for each of themselves. If an employee does not like the wage being offered, he should walk away and find another job. The government does not need to and should not interfere and arbitrary choose what the wage should be. In doing so, the government has violated a consensual transaction of money from the employer and labor from the employee. In the western world, nobody puts a gun to your head to force you to take a job you do not want. The minimum wage puts pressure on employers, the job creators, to offer jobs at a set price, that sometimes they cannot afford. This means they either cut hours (which happened recently with whole foods hiring part time workers), or they get rid of the job altogether. As an aside, workers do have a lot of power here, and recently employers can't find enough work, and so they are raising their wages and benefits to attract more workers. That shows you the power workers have. Government shouldn't be involved.

So in short, I think someone who believes in transgenderism and a minimum wage are solidly on the left.

I strongly suspect you believe in and support both of them.

I would argue that the difference between far left and left depend on how many "hot topic" issues you take a position on and to what degree you take a position on them. I could go down the list, blm (pretty sure you support it), defund the police (50/50 odds you do), support for palestine, wealth tax, green new deal, etc. I don't know all of your political views, but I don't need to in this polarized environment. Once you know one or two, you can safely guess the rest. As a quick example, one giveaway of your position being far-left was the immediate conclusion that my dislike for you was because of your race and sexuality. That was never why I disliked you, but the your focus on race and sexuality is in line with many on the left, especially those who cry racism and sexism. I quite literally applied the teachings of Martin Luther King Jr and disregarded the color of your skin (which isn't even at the top of mind on an online text-only forum), and judged you based on the content of your character (i.e. your actions). As an aside, what ethnicity do you think I am? I don't think your guess is the ethnicity I actually am.

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I believe that you are (sometimes) not nice. For example, we had an exchange prior to this whole comment thread about female virginity, I believe 1 or 2 months ago. I argue that I treated you in a neutral and impartial tone, and that you did not extend me the same courtesy. You responded to me with emojis, accused me of being obsessed, and poked fun at me in a manner suggesting that I was sick or perverted.

Here's a more recent example. In the comment from the other thread (the main one) you wrote this:

and that you’re quite shrill about it.

How am I shrill? Where have I raised my voice? Apart from the very first comment, where have I let my emotions get the better of me. My comments and posts are deliberately as dispassionate as possible, and I am stone-faced and calm whenever I interact with people on this forum.

And in the comments preceding that, you were insulting me for my "porno" OP which I still believe was a valid post to make, and despite what you or others may believe, it genuinely has nothing to do with my personal relationship(s) and my own personal views. It truly was a thought experiment more than anything.

Your presence does not incite me. I strive to treat everyone fairly, including you, and I have done that ever since I returned to PPD a few months ago. I don't feel like you ever bothered to want to treat me fairly on a consistent basis. Sometimes you do, but sometimes you don't, particularly when I say something you don't like (e.g. the virginity discussion). I don't operate that way with you, or anyone else.

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Yes, what you wrote regarding red pill being an amoral description of explaining the dynamics is correct. Some men are trad-cons (this is closer to my views, I think), some are completely "enjoying the decline," some are in between, some don't know where they are.

But the overlap and intersections are definitely there, or at least they once were. I used to go that subreddit. I used to speak with a lot of people. I've been in the chat rooms, the IRCs, and other websites/blogs associated with it. Of course red pill != right winger, but the similarities have existed, hence why I used politics as an example. For example, there were many men, on TRP, that unironically said women shouldn't vote routinely in the comments. That was a part of red pill philosophy.

I admit that using political views alone wasn't the best example, but I defend the validity of the political views. I know that you and others may not believe me, but the fact is there are people in the U.S. with some or all or similar views in that comment that I wrote. The reality is there are deeply conservative views (both social and fiscal), or right-wing, or even far-right if you prefer that term, that are not solely believed by radicals. I am not going to self-censor to make people feel better.

Lastly, PPD never was a tradcon clubhouse. I agree. I'm not sure why you think I thought it was.

In summary, my criticism was not directed at you. It was directed at the moderation team collectively that came before you, and the moderation team collectively including you after, for the reason that they defend you as moderate, and they defend the rest of themselves as moderate (collectively). I just don't buy it. Once upon a time a long time ago, before you were a mod, and before you started visiting this subreddit, I was here. I know what PPD was like back then, and what it's like now. The moderation team has (mostly) governed in a neutral manner, but the members who make it up are not down the middle.

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I’ll ignore your critique of my understanding of Red Pill because I think my interpretation is accurate. I know you to be more tradcon. I don’t believe RP is. I believe intersections exist. I said that from that start.

Regarding what you believe to be “far-left”:

No I don’t think someone can change their chromosomal or physiological born-sex simply because they believe it. What makes me different from you, most likely, is that I don’t care to spend my days trying to prove that person wrong. They can live freely. This is a “free market” after all. I also derive no pleasure from terrorizing them any further than they probably already mentally are.
No I don’t believe in perennially raising the minimum wage. I find that futile. But likely, unlike you, I don’t have a hard-on for billionaires and a “free market.” Billionaires didn’t become billionaires because of a “free market.” Lots of lobbying and manipulation takes place outside of P&L my dear. I find many conservatives to be a bit ignorant of economics in the holistic sense. For most of them, it’s a very narcissistic view. As someone who grew up working class and am now in the top 2% of millennial earners (5% overall), I feel very founded in my views. I understand the value of hard work, but I don’t dismiss the element of access, opportunity, serendipity, support, genetic competency, luck, etc. that aids one’s own success.

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Conciliatory? Of course not. I'm never going to win you over on anything, why bother trying.

But I thought the expectation of neutrality was not unreasonable.

Again, my comment was the following:

The active mods were never majority RP, and you're wrong in your prior comment. No real rp men were ever considered as actual mods. The most right-wing mod you have is a RP moderate, not a deep crimson pill. The fact that u\GridReXX became a mod tells me everything I need to know about the leftward shift on this subreddit. The mods never have and never will let real RP men ...

I was not criticizing you personally. I was criticizing the moderation team as a whole for their lies about their "moderate" and "balanced" and "fair" application of the rules.

That said, I'm not surprised how you treated me, saying that I was throwing a temper tantrum and being immature. It's how you treated me years ago, why should it have changed?

Good day Grid. I think I'm done with PPD, hopefully for the final time.

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Complete BS. I've been here for years. It was always a blue pilled userbase with a blue leaning mod base that has simply become bluer over time. The active mods were never majority RP, and you're wrong in your prior comment. No real rp men were ever considered as actual mods. The most right-wing mod you have is a RP moderate, not a deep crimson pill. The fact that u/GridReXX became a mod tells me everything I need to know about the leftward shift on this subreddit. The mods never have and never will let real RP men, with strong socially conservative views, who deeply and fundamentally believe in stark differences between men and women to take power. They will always relegate them as second class citizens to be ridiculed.

What’s “leftist” or “blue” about my perspectives on male/female dating dynamics?

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Would you wholeheartedly embrace a moderator who genuinely, truly believes that BLM is a marxist black supremacist domestic terrorist group?

Would you allow a moderator who genuinely believes giving women the right to vote was a mistake?

Would you allow a moderator who thinks voting rights should be restricted across the board en masse?

Would you genuinely be accepting of adding a moderator who believes LGBT culture has gone too far in the U.S.?

Would you genuinely accept a moderator who thinks women are, generally, too promiscuous these days?

We both know what the answer is for all of the questions. You and the other mods never have and never will allow people with genuinely contrarian views to share moderation power. It's always liberals, and court-jester conservatives as a token of "bipartisanship" that are allowed in charge. Never real conservatives. Never real RP.

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Would you wholeheartedly embrace a moderator who genuinely, truly believes that BLM is a marxist black supremacist domestic terrorist group?

Oh, brother. What does this have to do with hetero dating dynamics?

I do get why you would contort "hey, I matter too" as "supremacy." You're likely the "supremacist," so you insanely see it in everything.

At any rate, it's a group decision, so what I think would never be the final word.

Would you allow a moderator who genuinely believes giving women the right to vote was a mistake?

Red Pill isn't code for "tradcon extremist supremacist domestic terrorist group," so many red-pilled individuals wouldn't genuinely believe that.

At any rate, it's a group decision, so what I think would never be the final word.

Would you allow a moderator who thinks voting rights should be restricted across the board en masse?

What does this have to do with hetero dating dynamics? I'm sure you have an answer spell it out.

At any rate, it's a group decision, so what I think would never be the final word.

Would you genuinely be accepting of adding a moderator who believes LGBT culture has gone too far in the U.S.?

What does this have to do with hetero dating dynamics? I'm sure you have an answer spell it out.

At any rate, it's a group decision, so what I think would never be the final word.

Would you genuinely accept a moderator who thinks women are, generally, too promiscuous these days?

I have literally been telling everyone they're all entitled to their opinions. I know you've seen that.

At any rate, it's a group decision, so what I think would never be the final word.

We both know what the answer is for all of the questions.

I answered above.

You and the other mods never have and never will allow people with genuinely contrarian views to share moderation power.

Why is this on me? Idgaf about the internet and the crazies on it. Why did you tag me?

It's always liberals, and court-jester conservatives as a token of "bipartisanship" that are allowed in charge.

What does this have to do with hetero dating dynamics? I'm sure you have an answer spell it out.

Never real conservatives. Never real RP.

Based on your questions to me, it seems you believe "Red Pill" = your unique and particular intersection of beliefs. For some reason, you've singled me out and not any other mods. I can only guess it's because of my ethnicity or who I'm dating because quite frankly when it comes to male/female dynamics, I'm one of the more "red" people on this entire forum. Not you, no no. I've read your posts and comments and I don't think you quite understand even the basics to be considered "red" of anything except anger perhaps.

I think you oddly believe that Red Pilled = your slither of the June 6th rainbow and not an "understanding of realities and how they interplay." That's your myopia, but WHOOSH what a doozy.

How's that "porno" OP going for ya Mr. Big Great Alt-Right Extemist Last Hope, hm? The Tea Party called, they want their MO back. You're not a "conservative." You're a perversion of deep-forum sickness. A derivative of a derivative of a derivative... More akin to QAnon and 8chan theorists. Woodrow Wilson would spit in your face. Hell, probably Goebbels too. I can't imagine their respect for forum-warriors is high. Such manly.

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You literally proved my entire point, except you were too cowardly to answer "no" and just deflected with "what does that have to do with hetero dating dynamics."

Red pill and strong conservative values are highly correlated. Most people that were around, at least in the early iterations of RP (god knows what it has become now, I don't go there) were almost guaranteed to be U.S. republican, or the equivalent for whatever is in their country.

I chose political examples because they were at the top of mind, and the most extreme I could think of. But they do have an intersection with RP "pill" views and they always have. As an aside, the fact that you think these conservative views I have used as an example are only believed by QAnon and 8chan theorists is laughable. I have never followed the movement, ridiculed the movement's beliefs, and I've never been on 8chan.

I have never hated you--and I still don't--because of your race or sexuality. I have disliked you, and still do, because of how rude your comments are. Then, after making comments full of snark and disrespect, you parade around claiming to be a beacon of objectivity and good behavior. It's why, originally I blocked you, a long time ago, and only after getting a new computer, instead of going back and blocking those I had originally blocked, I decided to let bygones be bygones and treat everyone with an open mind and try to be fair in all of my comments. I am still, even in this comment, doing my best to be respectful to you while disagreeing with you.

And that is why I tagged you. It annoys me to see other mods defend you as being "down the middle" and "fair" and "open-minded" when in my opinion you are none of those things.

Case in point is the last paragraph of your comment. You're being insulting to me for no reason, other than the fact that you dislike me (because I expressed disapproval of your moderation behavior). My "porno" OP (which is not a porno, it's about the usage of porn in a relationship) is in my view a completely valid argument that isn't talked about. It has no bearing on my own personal views, which in actuality is against porn use in several ways.

I believe it is fair for me--or anyone else--to express disapproval of a moderator and explain why, as I have done, and not be insulted for doing so. Your actions show that you do not.

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You literally proved my entire point, except you were too cowardly to answer "no" and just deflected with "what does that have to do with hetero dating dynamics."

Because what did they have to do with hetero dating dynamics?

Red pill and strong conservative values are highly correlated.

An intersection does not mean that's what "red pill" is about? That's not what being correlated means.

Fat people and Mcdonald's are highly correlated. McDonald didn't start it for fatties. He loved his dive-in burger joint and wanted to share the eats.

You're bastardizing Red Pill origin to fit your beliefs, if your beliefs reflect the questions you asked me. You can have your beliefs. Don't conflate that with Red Pill. Your biases won't even allow you to parse the actual meanings of things.

Most people that were around, at least in the early iterations of RP (god knows what it has become now, I don't go there) were almost guaranteed to be U.S. republican, or the equivalent for whatever is in their country.

Uh huh. Your post history aligns more with tangential extremist theory, not U.S. Republicans. Don't disrespect the GOP like that.

I chose political examples because they were at the top of mind, and the most extreme I could think of. But they do have an intersection with RP "pill" views and they always have. As an aside, the fact that you think these conservative views I have used as an example are only believed by QAnon and 8chan theorists is laughable. I have never followed the movement, ridiculed the movement's beliefs, and I've never been on 8chan.

And the fact that you think the GOP stands for what you do is also laughable.

I have never hated you--and I still don't--because of your race or sexuality. I have disliked you, and still do, because of how rude your comments are. Then, after making comments full of snark and disrespect, you parade around claiming to be a beacon of objectivity and good behavior.

Have I claimed never to indulge "snark"? I levy it at those like you and all in between. I never said you "hated me." But yeah I've never quite enjoyed your presence either. Quite frankly I don't recall engaging you much. Are we done here?

And that is why I tagged you. It annoys me to see other mods defend you as being "down the middle" and "fair" and "open-minded" when in my opinion you are none of those things.

Because I snarked at you? Welp. I don't pretend to be liked by all. I also notice everyone who dislikes me has your background and purviews. This doesn't bother me, never will.

I am "fair and down the middle" when it comes to the topics of debate.

You thinking I'm the biggest meanie of the manosphere doesn't matter.

Case in point is the last paragraph of your comment. You're being insulting to me for no reason, other than the fact that you dislike me (because I expressed disapproval of your moderation behavior). My "porno" OP (which is not a porno, it's about the usage of porn in a relationship) is in my view a completely valid argument that isn't talked about. It has no bearing on my own personal views, which in actuality is against porn use in several ways.

You literally tagged me and incited this entire interaction. Forgive me for not giving you the benefit of the doubt.

I believe it is fair for me--or anyone else--to express disapproval of a moderator and explain why, as I have done, and not be insulted for doing so. Your actions show that you do not.

Yes, very fair. We all have triggers. Antagonistically tagging me specifically out of the blue about RPness and then not bringing any of that up and instead bringing in BLM and LGBT and anti-women woes was not the best way to begin a measured conversation with me. You can pretend it was, but it wasn't. You wanted to incite. You did. Don't be passive-aggressive and back pedal. It's unbecoming.

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You are wrong about my political beliefs being "tangential extremist," and I promise you I'm not bastardizing RP origins because I was there at it's start.

You have not changed one iota in the past seven years.

/u/RDelbson: You sound like a fan. As I said I don’t recall engaging you outside of respectfully when you’ve replied to my OPs past few weeks.

Go where you please, and please, do what you want. But do know I’ve never given one iota what you or those who conceive like you thinks of me over “the past 7 years.”

You conflate Red Pill thought with your own perversions of political ideology. You conflate TRP attracting men with your political leanings with Red Pill thought. And that is incorrect. Which is uncanny since you claim to have been there “at its start.” As far as your political beliefs, I only know what you write and share.

Don’t tag me in your self-righteous neurotic screeds. It only highlights your insecurity with masculinity and your bastardized understanding of Red Pill. Save it for your therapist and Parler and those who care about you. I do not.

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Women have mastered the art of being passive aggressive. They insult you constantly without blatantly directing their comment towards you. This gives them plausible deniability if/when reported. Some of the regulars here have turned being passive aggressive into an art form, and it makes up around 90% of their posts.

They use this to wind guys up to the point that guys directly insult them, at which point the guy is considered to be the aggressor by the mods, and is banned. Directed insults are on the list of things you can report someone for, indirect insults are not.

Men need to learn how to be passive aggressive instead of directly aggressive if they want to avoid being banned.

I'd also suggest women do 90% or so of the reporting. A mod told me I'm one of the most reported people on PPD and I'm fairly mild mannered most of the time and don't really break any rules. But I do say a lot of things that women on here don't like.

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TheGreasyPole is the main Red Pill male moderator and he usually moderates here on a daily basis. MrsDegree is a Red Pill female moderator. I’m a Blue/Purple pilled male moderator (although I don’t like to pill identify for various reasons) and moderate here on a daily basis, as well. There are other male moderators, some of them Red Pill, who moderate here sporadically. I could not tell you why they do not come online more often, though, but I do believe that the moderating team that does come online regularly is fairly well-balanced at the moment both gender-wise and pill-wise.

Most of the men who do get banned get banned for incel/Black Pill content offenses, which all moderators here have decided are not considered acceptable. Bans between the genders are otherwise pretty equal here and are mostly just short-term incivility bans, although a few users of both genders have received long-term bans in the past due to repeated incivility.

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“If you’ve ever had a relationship” the passive agreessiveness starts... I’m aware it’s based off more than looks and sex but plz don’t tell me looks don’t matter to women they clearly do almost as much as men in fact. Women say that yet all for the same few select guys so clearly they’re preferences aren’t as individual as u claims women all mostly find the same personality traits and looks attractive in men yet seem to think their standards aren’t based off mostly shallow criteria. I would be ok if women all liked different men for who they were but that’s not how women are they all like tho same few select men and any other men is settling for them. I’m not trying to be mean but it’s like U don’t wan to hear the truth and would rather just start with the passive aggressive bs

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😂😂😂 not to mention many times, the pictures are terrible.

you either can’t tell which dude is him (it’s almost always the least cute one too), the pictures are blurry, there’s filters on every pic of him, every pic is a selfie, you can’t even see his face in any of the pics/he’s got a mask on, he’s got one pic that’s not even of him but like a meme or some shit; or the dude has only one or two pics, and it fits any one of the descriptions i just listed. add an empty or shitty bio on top of it.

even worse: you move things to snapchat, then notice he’s a good 10-30lbs heavier than he is in his pics on tinder. he’s also shit at carrying an interesting conversation, then suddenly makes it sexual within the first few hours (or minutes) of interacting with him.

my friend would even see dudes and tell me they were federal prisoners, and she’d tell me what signs to look for because she once (unknowingly) matched with a guy who turned out to be a prisoner!

idk how women use it long-term. i couldn’t even use it for a full week without getting tired of the bs.

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you just commented under a post where i was talking about an issue women have with tinder about “wah wah, men get no wahmen 🎻”

then you say this:

Sorry u have sooo many options u can’t pick? U really expect me to feel bad when men like literally have 0 options. Dude how can u possibly tell me that it is worse to have too many options than none at all? Like dude come on that’s just ridiculous to say

which isn’t even the issue i was describing? it’s like you didn’t even read the comment?

and now you want to ask me “why would i care about men’s issues?” that’s a fantastic question, especially considering men on this app tell me every damn day my life is devoid of any and all issues because i‘m a vagina owner.

please tell me, why should i care about their issues? after all, they keep telling me i have none!

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Watching another WWII doc because WWIIislife.

Robert Sherrod was a Time Magazine war correspondent.

Below he’s expressing his thoughts after spending time with American marines out at sea in the Pacific circa ‘43:

Americans don’t realize it. But we’re losing the war.

I know we have the machines to fight this war, but the question is do we have the guts?

This generation isn’t mentally prepared to bridge the gap between comforts of peace and the horrors of war.

The montage playing as homeboy narrated his angsty prose was young American soldiers having a good ol’ time cross-dressing, playing cards, dancing, lounging, zip lining, listening to records, etc onboard the ship.

It just seems each generation thinks the current generation of men are “weak, undisciplined, and non-masculine.” Gotta sprinkle in some wars to make everyone happy 🙃.

yes I realize I’ve turned the Weekly Thread into my “Dear Diary” of late

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Tech made weak boys and girls

The flipside is that it has made them smarter too.

I'm a millenial, but my job has me working alongside a steady stream of new Gen Z personnel, and most of them are honestly quite bright. More knowledgeable, skeptical of unverified information, and better at researching and quickly integrating that information into their workflow than I think I and many of my peers were at their age.

The boomer meme exists for a reason too, because, although I don't see it too often in my workplace, I've found that older generations are understandably more technologically naive and less understandably not very skeptical of what they read.

The internet is by no means a perfect replacement of lived experience, but the simulation is getting better all the time, and at the very least it allows communication and information exchange with people vastly different from ourselves. Which is a kind of simulacrum for worldliness. And the world grows ever closer to resembling the internet world as time goes on.

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How is a first person account of someone close to a given event or developing trend not a verified source? Do you understand the concept of a primary source? Or are you the kind of person who things everything on the internet is fake, but everything on cable news or written in a newspaper is true lol?

The George Floyd footage was posted first and spread on social media, as well as virtually all the documentation of the ensuing social unrest...

The Kenosha riots were documented primarily by people on the ground...again on social media

The recent events in Gaza and human rights abuses, almost all of which would normally be buried or suppressed by conventional western media, were again documented by sources on the ground over social media...

The GameStop disruption of the Wall St status quo was 100% a social media phenomenon, and would've been impossible otherwise...and on and on

Do you understand that important people choose to break news themselves through their social media accounts rather than through some middleman media corporation that will almost certainly distort the truth to suit their agenda?

That you resort to a contentless sassy non-sequitur would indicate that you're simply not a very good critical thinker.

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How is a first person account of a person close to a given event or developing trend not a verified source?

Holy shit.

If a person at the scene of an event makes what they claim is a factual statement, a news outlet still needs to take steps to verify it before running with it. They can get sued for publishing false information or misquoting someone. Have you never heard of libel?

Are you the kind of person who things everything on the internet is fake, but everything on cable news or written in a newspaper is true lol?

I’m the kind of person who understands the difference between news and opinion. I bet you couldn’t even begin to describe the distinction.

The George Floyd footage was posted first and spread on social media, as virtually all the ensuing social unrest...

The Kenosha riots were documented primarily by people on the ground...again on social media

And that proves what?

Or that important people choose to break news themselves through their social media accounts rather than through some middleman media corporation that will almost certainly distort the truth to suit their agenda.

Citizens have always played a role in finding the breaking news. Always. Before social media they had tiplines.

They still verify news before they report it.

And it doesn’t mean Everyone with enough brain cells to start a Twitter account is a journalist.

But then I’m talking to someone who thinks technology didn’t exist before the internet — which was 2008 right?

That you resort to a contentless sassy non-sequitur would indicate that you're simply not a very good critical thinker about these issues.

Cute. Now go make a meme about this and post it so all your IG followers can upvote your harrowing tale of the mean boomer who dared to not blow smoke up your precious millennial ass.

Maybe they’ll give you the Pulitzer. After all everyone in your generation is supposed to get a trophy right?

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If a person at the scene of an event makes what they claim is a factual statement

A video of a news event is not a claim, it's evidence. How do you think news organizations verify the truth of the events...? They interview primary sources and ideally review evidence...like a video taken by a primary source. Sound familiar?

These news organizations you deify are smarter than you apparently. They see live social media updates for the boon that it is. Ordinary people now can do much of the groundwork for them.

And that proves what?

That, I don't know, hugely significant events that we'd otherwise have no evidence of can be captured in real time and spread instantaneously? Hopefully I don't have to explain the significance of this, or how it has changed the nature of the news forever.

Citizens have always played a role in finding the breaking news. Always. Before social media they had tiplines.

Yeah but everyone having a camera (you know that formerly big piece of technology that has always been the main tool of news organizations for reporting and documenting important events) in their pockets with global connectivity, plus being able to react and capture scenes that otherwise would have been lost to history, is kind of a revolutionary and invaluable development. News companies realize this and cite accordingly. You apparently don't.

Cute. Now go make a meme about this and post it so all your IG followers can upvote you. Maybe they’ll give you the Pulitzer

Not sure why you're making this personal, other than that it's your MO and the last resort of the person with no point and no argument, but you clearly are just flexing your bizarre hate boner for generations younger than yourself, rather than concede the obvious. I don't even use instagram, but if it makes you feel better to conflate me with the useless young people you work with, then feel free. It's not going to change anything about how the real world works, or make you any less wrong.

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How do you think news organizations verify the truth of the events...?

They have people on staff who are paid to do this.

If a guy at the scene of a fire says he saw the building explode, you talk to the fire crew on the scene to verify that yes the fire appears to have been caused by an explosion (or you clearly state the guy is telling you what he believes but it hasnt been verified) If he says he saw trump plant a bomb in the building before it blew up, somebody better have some rock solid evidence before anyone is gong to even think about reporting that as fact.

You following?

These news organizations you deify are smarter than you apparently. They see live social media updates for the boon that it is. Ordinary people now can do much of the groundwork for them.

Sounds a lot like something I just said. Where you’re wrong is not understanding that legit outlets still have to cover their asses and every jack ass with a phone and Twitter account is not a credible source. even social media outlets themselves are policing the content that gets posted on their platforms for that very reason how do you not know this?

Yeah but everyone having a camera (you know that formerly big piece of technology that has always been the main tool of news organizations for reporting and documenting important events) in their pockets with global connectivity, plus being able to react and capture scenes that otherwise would have been lost to history, is kind of a revolutionary and invaluable. development. News companies realize this and cite accordingly. You apparently don't.

What the fuck are you even rambling about? You keep contradicting yourself. One sentence you say traditional news is bullshit, next sentence you say traditional news gets its content from individual contributors and its “revolutionary” then you go back to claiming its bullshit. You’re all over the place here because you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Pulling the “why are you making this personal” card after making it personal is exactly how I expected you to close.

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One sentence you say traditional news is bullshit, next sentence you say traditional news gets its content from individual contributors and its “revolutionary” then you go back to claiming its bullshit.

Here's a claim you can verify. Cite where I said this. My original point was that virtually all news organizations cite social media as a primary source now. You said that was hogwash. You're wrong.

"Old media is dead" does not mean traditional news is bullshit; it means the way they do business has changed forever. Like, I really hope I don't have to cite the countless NY times and WaPo articles that quite literally quote tweets from influential people as news, or the viral videos of key events (like the ones I already mentioned) because it is news now. This was the point, not whatever nonsense you're ascribing to me.

I know the internet is hard for you, and you hate it (despite spending literally every day on it arguing with people) but try to keep up.

I also never called people with Twitter accounts journalists. I said influential people can now break news themselves through their SM accounts, which traditional media then reports on. I'd invite you to disprove that as well, if it were possible.

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No they do not get virtually all of their source material from social media.

Yeah, again you're gonna have to cite me on that. Scratch that I'll do it for you. Let's go line by line. Does this sentence I wrote:

virtually all news organizations cite social media as a primary source now.

Mean the same thing as the one you wrote:

No they do not get virtually all of their source material from social media

I get that it's hard now, because they share a word. But no, saying virtually all news organizations cite social media as A (singular) source now does not mean the same thing as virtually ALL of their source material.

Do you see the difference now? English is hard, I know, but hopefully we don't need to go through that again.

I see the confusion. You're barely literate. We can end this here.

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Writing about seduction goes back centuries. Casanova, who had slept with over 120 women, indulging in group sex, sleeping with his own illegitimate daughter, pimping out underage girls, did all kinds of weird shit. He even wrote seduction tips on what he used to do with women, and chronicled his life in an autobiography. The "privacy is sexy" thing is similar to PUA concepts like isolation. Point is, there's a long history of this stuff.

Iceberg Slim is popular among black readership but I wouldn't go as far as suggesting that he had a major impact on the seduction scene of the 60's and 70's. Most of that stuff is just coming out around the time of the sexual revolution and is real basic material. In the 80's you had Ross Jeffries using hypnotic material and "speed seduction" gimmicks, which leads to Mystery in the early 2000's and RSD in the late 2000's, which eventually turns into TRP in the 2010's.

TRP itself is mostly a melting pot of different ideas, PUA is one of them but also everything from Rollo's "The Rational Male", to Esther Vilar's "The Manipulated Man", and Robert Glover's "No More Mister Nice Guy". On top of all that, PUA's like Mystery were reading up on evolutionary psychology and applying what he read into practice. A lot of the concepts of PUA and TRP are coming from academic research on things like the dual mating hypothesis, and the mate switching hypothesis aka branch swinging.

RSD is when you start to get into less structured material and becoming more natural. A lot of this is just based on using the material that Mystery taught Owen Cook, and then applying that stuff to studying guys at bars and clubs who were just naturally good with picking up women. Eventually, the idea of being natural and less formal leads into TRP and most of the TRP sheds the gimmicks of PUA while emphasizing the goal of being an Alpha male. The concept of the Alpha male itself comes from the science of observing social ranks in other primates like Chimpanzees who have a dominance hierarchy of a top ranking male. Whether or not you can say this accurately applies to humans is another thing, but the idea of it comes from scientific observations.

If you're noting similarities between black male culture and TRP, a lot of it is coming from the fact that they're studying a single subject and coming to similar conclusions. How many novel ways can you really break down female behavior? I don't think it's at all accurate to say that "Black social commentary and comedians" are the primary source of the TRP's conception. People have been studying and analyzing the subject of seduction for centuries, was Charles Darwin inspired by Black culture? That's not to say that there isn't cultural overlap, you can see it in guys like Patrice O'Neal who's voice inspired a wide cannon of different men. Rap music, pimp culture, and Black comedians might have similar things in common with TRP, but I don't think it's accurate to say it's a direct descendant of it.

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I don’t think Iceberg Slim is popular outside of a niche. I didn’t learn of him until a year ago as I’m not a black man from his background or era when his books were popular. I used him as a unique example of black men canonizing “game.” My point there was it’s a natural thing for them. They don’t have doctrine around it a la TRP and PUA.

And yah men being seductive goes back to antiquity. Referencing Casanova and Darwin here I don’t quite understand. Did I say Black American culture inspired male movements in Sweden or Armenia or Germany? Have a credited Black American culture with orchestral music or other things we had no linkage to?

We are discussing the influences of these two modern American movements.

I never said black men created PUA or TRP. I simply said they were inspiration. We don’t have to agree here. Because my perspective on that isn’t changing.

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Many Black men in this country, relative to his non-Black peers, rarely had access or opportunity for wealth accumulation. That’s how everyone else was “enticing women into marriage and relationships” — RMV leverage.

And so Black men didn’t decide to be incel, they doubled down on SMV. It worked. It also helps Black American culture is more “culturey.” I don’t know how best to articulate it but historically, my culture collectively cares about “music and rhythm and laughter and dance and food and spirituality etc.” Those aspects are probably why the guys didn’t wallow into inceldom, but developed in other ways. Pros and cons.

Anyway TRP is trying to encapsulate what Black men did. Except those guys, whether they choose to believe so or not, have a leg up because they also have way more RMV.

im speaking in massive generalities inb4 someone accuses me of whatever

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Circling back on the OLD dating preferences shown here.

The graphic shows what percentage of people responded to a “yes,” based on the gender and ethnicity of both parties (the data are only for opposite-sex pairs of people). Unsurprisingly, most “yes’s” go unanswered, but there are patterns.

Men responded to some subsets of women who matched with them average 20% of the time.
And men responded to another subset of women who matched with them average 11% of the time.
Highest response percentage overall from men was 26%.

I think this study focused on the patterns post “match” for a reason. Probably because men swipe on most profiles and women swipe on a small minority of profiles. Sexual dimorphism for ya.

However when you look at who men actually respond to of the women who matched with them, it’s really only the top ~20%.

And so, when men have the leverage, they ignore ~80% of those interested in them or more ! 😂☺️☝🏾

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