The title is self explanatory. Women love nice guys. The problem is men who think they are nice are just passive doormats with zero self esteem. That’s not being nice that’s being weak. Women don’t like those men. Just because you don’t have the confidence to be assertive and stand up for yourself doesn’t mean you’re nice and stable.
When women say we like kind guys the “also is assertive and confident” part is silent. You can be a nice person without kissing her ass and being a “yes” man. The problem I think inexperienced men have is when they really want a woman, they feel the need to put her on a pedestal and borderline worship her. Women love when you show love to them but don’t like feeling that she’s the only source of your happiness. It’s overwhelming and weird.
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Nice cope, not an excuse. The number of women on here who openly admitted they chased bad boys when they were younger and weren't expecting a relationship with him was astounding to me. Women(and men) get what they deserve.
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But I don't think physically unattractive men are going for women out of their league.
The problem is average women , don't know they average. They all think they 8s and 9s.
So I do agree with you that women do feel like men less attractive then them is a creep.
But do you think that a 6 who puts on makeup and now thinks she's an 8 ,has the right to consider a men that is a 6-7 less attractive?
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This is gonna sound crass but wouldn't it be a good dating advice for men who cannot get into relationships to be more manipulative, instead of the "personality" improvements? Just an idea. Don't stone the messenger.
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It would be a choice if it has a higher success rate than the other methods. I am not sure if it does have a higher success rate.
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This is the only reply that makes sense
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Here it is straight from a woman's mouth how a man being good to her repulsed her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dzf_7Iokz0
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Here's a woman talking about a GOOD man, attractive, nice body, good in bed, loyal, attractive to her friends, and did nice things for her, ... but the fact that the man WAS too nice to her DISGUSTED HER. WTF? It repulsed her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dzf_7Iokz0 (fun fact, this what we guys want and ask for from our partners. Someone who's nice and looks out for us)
NOW, she never said he was "passive" or a "doormat". Nothing about "zero self esteem". Nothing about what she described about this man said he wasn't confident. Nothing she described about this man said couldn't be assertive. Just the fact that he was eager to please her was enough to turn her off. If you agree with this woman, wtf is wrong with you?
So like others have said, OP is backwards rationalizing the lack of confidence or assertiveness. For instance this Charles guy this woman describes, you don't think if I tried to disrespect Charles he wouldn't hand me my ass? Of course he would. But because he's nice to her she think he's inferior? Good in bed, attractive to her and her friends, loyal, good to her... but inferior? Fuck outta here.
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