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[–]Galileo_SparkFDS Newbie532 points533 points534 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
VICE and sexual harassment settlements. At the time this 2017 NYT article was written, the current president of the company as well as several other employees were involved in sexual harassment settlements.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/business/media/vice-sexual-harassment.html
[–]natashaalexandraFDS Newbie297 points298 points299 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Pickmeisha looking for recognition from her scrote boss... doesn't matter how much you drag other women down, he won't promote you!
[–]toredtimetravellerFDS Newbie66 points67 points68 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In fact, pickmiesha will be one of the "oh why didn't she just say no" victims of his harassment, because we all know very well how that defence is easily said when you're not the victim. Not worth it at all, not even worth working there without having to kiss their ass by bashing other women.
[–]UnstrirringCoffeeFDS Apprentice35 points36 points37 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And when a woman does say "no", they'll all be like: "Misandry!"
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple52 points53 points54 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
In addition, more than two dozen other women, most in their 20s and early 30s, said they had experienced or witnessed sexual misconduct at the company — unwanted kisses, groping, lewd remarks and propositions for sex.
The settlements and the many episodes of harassment the women described depict a top-down ethos of male entitlement at Vice, where women said they felt like just another party favor at an organization where partying often was an extension of the job.
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Also this: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/01/media/vice-gavin-mcinnes-proud-boys/index.html
They try to "distance" themselves from this. " Vice Media is once again working to distance itself from its co-founder, Gavin McInnes, who set much of the tone for the company in its early days before going on to found the Proud Boys, the far-right group whose ideology has been labeled "misogynistic, Islamophobic, transphobic, and anti-immigration" by the Anti-Defamation League. "
Well, they founded the company together and these misogynistic problems are STILL on going in the company and still somehow they want us to believe that there are no ties to "proud boys" and Vice. AS IF! Do they think we are stupid enough to believe that. Their response is very "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" / "We do not associate with Proud Boys" 🙄
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Also: McInnes founded the Proud Boys in 2016. He quit in 2018, but in 2019 sued the Southern Poverty Law Center for designating the organization a hate group. Officially, the group describes themselves as being organized around the belief that "West Is The Best" — what they call Western Chauvinism — and reject the label of White supremacists and alt-right. They say they oppose both racism and "racial guilt." They advocate for closed borders, gun rights, and "venerating the housewife." In a statement to CNN Business Thursday, McInnes rejected the notion that the Proud Boys are racists or White supremacists.
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When CNN Business reached out to McInnes by text message about what Dubuc had written, he replied saying, "I created that brand and defined the content from its inception to when I left in 2018. My pithy irreverence still haunts it like Banquo's ghost."
[–]ThoraFriganzaFDS Newbie23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh interesting, bet they're worried
[–]GerltofenFDS Newbie918 points919 points920 points 5 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link
Well, it's still free publicity 🤷♀️ I found fds through another sub that was bashing it and as a former pickmeisha, this sub has only benefited me mentally and taught me what boundaries and standards are....sooo let's get it, the more publicity the more lives we save
[–]RadicalFemaleFDS Newbie186 points187 points188 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Streisand effect, one of my very favorite effects!
[–]roonil_wazlib_the2ndFDS Newbie483 points484 points485 points 5 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
I found this sub because someone linked it and people were saying it was a bunch of female incels. Came to laugh and found that it was the opposite. A sub empowering women to not settle for shit men is apparently a bunch of incels. Ok. Also I am a married woman with no interest in dating advice, I just liked the content after viewing posts.
[–]cherryloafFDS Newbie243 points244 points245 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I found it the same way. "They're just female incels who are bitter that no man wants them!" then why did one of my exes spam my phone with literally 10 phone calls last week and the other went as far as bothering my mother today all while I moved on months ago and am currently in a happy and committed relationship, Kevin McXbox?
[–]toredtimetravellerFDS Newbie64 points65 points66 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Same as well, they keep advertising this sub as a bunch of incels. Some people just join in on bashing this sub and its mods without even checking the content, some stop at reading that men aren't allowed to comment and immediately lose their shit lmao.
[–]cherryloafFDS Newbie72 points73 points74 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
There are some things I don't agree with on this sub, but I'm an old hag by internet standards and I've seen it all - this place has become a sanctuary for me at this point. Finally someone is pointing out the crap that has been bugging me my entire life. And I've still yet to see a criticism of this sub that didn't boil down to "abloobloobloo".
[–]toredtimetravellerFDS Newbie36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Glad you found a place where you can feel understood, it's been amazing for me as well, there are some things I don't necessarily agree with, but I don't have to. All we have to do is support eachother and give eachother advice and level up.
Criticism I suppose is always welcome, when it makes sense. 99,99999% of criticism for this sub is just angry men who thinks we're ugly fat broken ladies who no one wants to date us, and they're upset women found eachother and have a safe place to talk without anyone mensplaning or "not all men"ing us, this last rule is actually my favourite part about the sub. No online harassment from men on this sub.
[–]cherryloafFDS Newbie32 points33 points34 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I've seen a few posts, that I didn't feel were particularly representative of the general vibe of the sub, screenshotted and presented as proof of how everyone here is a terrible person, but it still boiled down to "abloobloobloo" and it was intellectually dishonest.
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
agreed, also some of the things that people present in other subs are literally comments left by users. Just because one or some users has an opinion, that does not mean it is "all of FDS" behind that one comment. People still have free will and I think people are allowed to comment what they think. I might still argue with them or have an discussion if I dont agree. But I think that is actually the whole point of a discussion forum.
[–]KuanzhaixiangziFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We're not supposed to say all men, or make generalisations about men, but they're cool with doing it to FDSers. Colour me surprised....
[–]Galileo_SparkFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same here, though I’m not an “old hag” as you say you are. I’m happily in a relationship, but the things brought up in this sub are things that have been bothering me my whole life too. All these double standards and so much abusive behaviors towards women that is just normalized and we are expected to accept without complaining.
From a very young age I couldn’t understand why men as a whole treat women so badly. So much of it is all about control, keeping us down, using us and treating us like garbage for all we do do for them and our children. All the physical violence, cheating, literal killing, stalking, molestation, pervy behavior, harassment, disrespect, trying to trap in a relationship, trying to control and police our bodies, trying to keep us out of the workforce and higher paying jobs, lack of equal wages, disrespect, pure hatred, etc.
I’m sort of thankful for all the misogynistic subs by men in that it’s easier to see many men for how they are. It’s one thing to suspect someone is like this, they rarely ever are this way to my face. It’s another to literally read how evil and misogynist they can be. It’s put me on guard and been a huge wakeup call for me. It’s caused me to pour my time, support, money and energy into women. Women business owners, women medical providers, etc.
[–]myeggsarebigFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same. I have a HVM and I come here for inspiration and to learn to apply HV standards to all of my different types of relationships, particularly friendships, but even employment. The haters gone hate bc we are firm about not compromising our values which excludes LV from entering my orbit. They hate that we are working towards self determination and full autonomy.
[–]HeavyMetalLobsterFDS Newbie89 points90 points91 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kevin McXbox 💀 😆
[–]crazygirl1387FDS Newbie73 points74 points75 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is exactly me!!!! Now that I’m thinking about having kids I want to be able to have discussions with my kids and this sub is going to be soooo helpful
[–]roonil_wazlib_the2ndFDS Newbie67 points68 points69 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
100%. I have a 5 yo daughter and I want to be able to have conversations with her when she is older about not settling for a man who do not respect her.
[–]LavaDoggedFDS Newbie61 points62 points63 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I literally just had this conversation with my sister, our parents beat it into our heads that any male attention was good and we should be grateful for it. Shamed us both for our life choices (my sister having her son young and me for not having kids at all). The only “advice” we ever received was “wait until marriage” but never any positivity and only shame for being female. People always say to stay away from assholes but when it’s been beaten into your head how useless you are to society if you don’t have male attention and barefoot and pregnant day in and day out - hearing someone say “just stop dating assholes” isn’t helpful, we had to be taught HOW to avoid them. It’s the happiest the both of us have ever been cutting out anyone that negs us and puts us down (and now we know what it is from reading here). I will never tolerate the shit I did before, and neither will my sister
[–]natashaalexandraFDS Newbie28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also echoing this sentiment. I'm so glad I found this subreddit, even if it was through people who were trying to make a mockery of it. Jokes on them!
[–]androidangel23FDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same same, in a very happy relationship so I don’t really need to vet men moving forward, but it’s helped me reflect upon my past relationships and experiences with men and what I was doing wrong. I wouldn’t change it now because I’m mega happy with a hvm but I have a lot of friends that are still single that I see making the same damn mistakes, staying unhappy and dissatisfied while giving way too much of themselves and I alwaysss send them this way.
The patterns are so ingrained in us this place has been like finding a female dating bible. Thou shalt not disrespect thyself is the main commandment.
[–]ThoraFriganzaFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Arn't incels people who can't get sex? I bet most of us can get it any day, we're just tired of it and want an actual relationship.
[–]VS377FDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
It genuinely cracks me up (and saddens me) when people say this is a “female incel” sub. ESPECIALLY since plenty of women on here are either married or in serious relationships. They make it seem like this subreddit is designed for single women who are bitter, when that’s far from the case. Hell, my HVM bf will read posts on this sub with me and agree completely. But that doesn’t fit the anti-FDS, anti-women agenda does it? 🤔
[–]TeaSwarm2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Me too. I'm still new to it and largely lurking but I kept seeing people refer to FDS negatively, so I decided to be nosey and find out what all the drama was about. Some of the comments I disagree with sure, but mostly it seemed to me that the main message was to hold yourself and any potential partner accountable. As someone who is "Forever Alone" myself, I often find myself in communities where there are a lot of incels and the comparison is obsurd. Incels tend to view the issue as everyone's fault but their own. While on here, there is a lot of calls for women to recognize behavior within themselves that work to their detriment as an individual and the collective of women. I see this as respect yourself and then demand respect from every relationship, and don't become so desperate that you would settle for someone who would walk all over you and treat you poorly. That's the same advice I think every single person should take, regardless of gender. But as with most things, if the messenger is a woman, it gets cast aside as invalid, illogical, and overly emotional.
[–]InthefullspectrumThrowaway Account2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have not interest in dating. Neither I do have in violence and hand-on-hand combat. Has that stop me of take some self defense clases? In this world? I think not.
[–]nomaki221FDS Newbie107 points108 points109 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I honestly love the publicity. Helps sooo much with weeding. I see a female user bashing FDS on another platform? Instantly block and delete. So much time saved.
[–]NoonLooneyFDS Newbie71 points72 points73 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Me too. Someone called it “toxic” and when I checked it out I eventually found my favourite part of Reddit. Ppl just hate women for having standards boundaries.
[–]MonicaLSolisFDS Disciple42 points43 points44 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
One thing I constantly see on other subs is that we condone lying and deceiving men. I never seen anything like that on this sub. But the funny thing is men are allowed to lie. In fact, it is a common pickup artist tactic. When men lie, it's seen as part of the game.
[–]androidangel23FDS Newbie24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel like a lot of these lvm/nvm are worried that if the fds message gets to enough women, they’ll end up having to pay for a lot of meals without any promise of sex 😂
But it should be that way, only then will they start to appreciate a women’s TIME.
[–]KittyIchigo1FDS Newbie99 points100 points101 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I found FDS after some subreddit drama and they were trying to compare FDS to banned incel subs here on Reddit. Got interested to see what it was all about - havent looked back since.
[–]toredtimetravellerFDS Newbie39 points40 points41 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yet another woman who joined because they called the sub female incels. Imagine comparing women who want respect and trust in a relationship, to men who want to rape women and harm them in every way possible, and even wish harm on other men who are in relationships because they can't get what they have.
[–]ThoraFriganzaFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wonder how many women have found this sub by accident, I usually never join any but this one really spoke to me.
[–]toredtimetravellerFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]mermaid-babeFDS Newbie33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same here!!!
[–]_laufaesonFDS Newbie27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I found it because someone recommended it after I posted about my divorce in that sub. This whole sub has been really helping me move on from my POS STBXH.
[–]ughthanksbutnoFDS Apprentice437 points438 points439 points 5 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link
men can refuse to date a woman just for a hair being out of place and he’ll be told “you’re supposed to have standards!!” but we refuse to date a broke momma’s boy with anger issues who can’t get it up and suddenly we’re hypercritical spinsters who don’t live in reality. I wanna laugh and cry.
[–]sofuckinggreatFDS Newbie145 points146 points147 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Every other Seinfeld episode is about breaking up with a woman for the most ridiculous fucking reasons.
“She had man-hands!”
[–]XRozeFDS Newbie103 points104 points105 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
oh wow you're so right. that was literally a constant storyline. jerry and the short bald fat one were so disgusting too, yet all the women they dated were super models.
[–]skyerippaFDS Newbie38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Friends too with chandler, didn't like the one woman because of mascara goop in her eye, one woman's head was too big etc etc.
I still love friends though lol
[–]SadClownProstituteFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The only way to enjoy Friends is to accept that it was very representative of it's time, and we shouldn't be looking to it for ideas or advice.
That said, I regularly say JOEY DOESN'T SHARE FOOD when someone tries to take a french fry from my plate. I'm on my fourth series rewatch.
[–]IgetUsernameScrapsFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Joey was the only decent man of the three. Chandler was toxic AF and Ross an outright sociopath.
[–]SadClownProstituteFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think all of them were awful in their own ways, but Joey seemed awful out of ignorance rather than malice, which makes him a wee bit less awful, imho. I don't even care though. Sometimes you just have to make popcorn and accept the fact that the show you're watching has entertainment value even if there is no positive social message.
[–]oxalis34 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s always “Give him a chance!”
[–]elementalviragoFDS Apprentice692 points693 points694 points 5 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
Where in the WORLD have we ever talked about forced vasectomies?? Are "journalists" (and I use that term very loosely) just making stuff up as they go now?
[–]throwaway1378420FDS Newbie475 points476 points477 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
it was probably taken WAY out of context. i could imagine the context was about if women can't get abortions, then men should have forced vasectomies. to point out how absurd it is for your sexual reproductive organs to be controlled by anyone other than yourself.
[–]SadClownProstituteFDS Newbie26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Back in early 2020, there was a US politician, Rolanda Hollis from Alabama, who was trying to make people understand why legislating women's reproductive rights is a bad idea.
To do this, she introduced a bill requiring men to undergo a mandatory vasectomy when he turns 50 or after his third child is born, whichever comes first.
Obviously there was a huge outcry from men clutching their pearls about how iT'S MY Body You caN't TAke mY ChoIces AWaY FRoM mE.
IIRC, FDS was pretty amused by the backlash.
[–]EquipoisonousFDS Newbie261 points262 points263 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No FDSer would trust a man who claimed to have a vasectomy. Sounds like an excuse to claim he doesn’t need to wear a condom.
[–]Reporter_ComplexFDS Newbie65 points66 points67 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like an excuse to claim he doesn’t need to wear a condom.
Ha, loool, but that totally fine, nothing wrong there
/s
[–]PR0N0IAFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Depends on the situation. My husband is going to get one when we’re done having kids so I don’t have to go back on birth control. I trust him— plus I want more kids than he does in the first place lol
[–]Trickle92FDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are right. A husband is very different from a man you are dating.
[–]SuitablePerformance3FDS Disciple219 points220 points221 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
And what's the issue too? Society is constantly trying to push abortions and at the same time outlaw abortions. Plan B ruins women's hormones as do birth control pills. Every contraceptive is detrimental to women but if men have like a second of discomfort the world's about to end? Fucking cry me a river.
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie47 points48 points49 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, especially at Vice.
[–]MarbleWorldRuthless Strategist[S] 141 points142 points143 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
They linked to this post - which was about a protest bill against abortion restrictions in Alabama suggesting men should have to submit to vasectomies if we are allowed to legislate people's bodies. VERY CLEARLY A JOKE AND NOT A SERIOUS BILL.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/fbpfd8/rolanda_hollis_proposes_bill_requiring_men_have/
[–]CloacaDiddlerFDS Disciple115 points116 points117 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women comparing something that doesn’t exist is somehow worse than the thing that exists.
???
God no, let’s not think about the actual laws being put in place to actually control and harm women and babies, it’s clearly far worse that a woman spoke up about it and said “imagine the roles reversed” which there is no danger of ever happening
Women comparing something that doesn’t exist is somehow worse than the thing that exists. ??? God no, let’s not think about the actual laws being put in place to actually control and harm women and babies, it’s clearly far worse that a woman spoke up about it and said “imagine the roles reversed” which there is no danger of ever happening
See that is a perfect example of internalized misogyny (A term FDS newbies are throwing around so much these days with 0 clue to what it means). Exactly what you said, for her (the journalist) it is worse than men controlling women's bodies and choices. That is some deep rooted misogyny right there.
[–]elementalviragoFDS Apprentice119 points120 points121 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So when men are "jUsT jOkInG" they're just joking but when women are just joking it's not a joke. #scrotelogic
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because men know full well that they are not actually joking at all. Every time I heard a man say something stupid and then "its a joke". It was never a joke at all....
[–]DeepestWinterBlueFDS Newbie27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Sadly there aren’t a lot of good journalists left out there that does thorough research. It’s all about click-baits and hype pieces to get more people on their website to either collect your data or get you to pay for access on their site.
[–]FrozenExpanseFDS Newbie34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Everything in the news is made up. They just have to quote “anonymous sources” and then they can say literally anything.
[–]ChocoBananzaFDS Apprentice15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or add ‘allegedly’
[–]CowgirlMollyFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Credible news outlets will only use anonymous sources when the source’s life or livelihood is at stake.
Even then, most credible journalists only use anonymous sources for background information and will find credible sources to go on record to back up the anonymous source so they can leave the anonymous source out of the article.
[–]randowordgeneratorFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I only wrote "Vasectomy on Demand!" You know, because there are 1000s of men who would, but it cost$.
[–]jasmine-blossomFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It was about a post that linked to an article about the proposed Alabama law that would require men to get a vasectomy after their third child or after age 50. Its a satirical proposal meant to counteract/make visible how unjust the laws about abortion are to women.
“The bill's sponsor, Democratic state Rep. Rolanda Hollis, said the measure gives perspective to reproductive health laws, including the state's contested abortion ban.”
“Hollis said the proposal is meant to "neutralize" the Human Life Protection Act passed last summer, which would make performing an abortion a Class A felony, punishable by life or 10 to 99 years in prison. A federal judge blocked the ban in October, and a lawsuit is pending.”
source
[–]pinkcityscapeFDS Newbie269 points270 points271 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I love how men can reject a woman for any trivial reason under the guise of ‘preference’ and no one questions it but a woman can’t want a partner who is mentally stable and doesn’t financially/physically/sexually abuse her? Unbelievable...
[–][deleted] 109 points110 points111 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I literally had a guy friend who would do the exact same thing. I thought he was a smart guy so I was frankly astounded when he didn’t see the hypocrisy:
[–]WatzooFDS Newbie169 points170 points171 points 5 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
Because under it all, we societally believe that men - all men - have a right to sexual access where women are concerned. That’s why rape isn’t prevented or punished effectively. And certainly men don’t have to be good partners before they go out and demand a woman’s time and potential reproductive health.
[–]XRozeFDS Newbie61 points62 points63 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
i hate how true this is. i was thinking today how men treat sex like it's a scarce resource they need to live. they get so competitive with each other and violent with women over it. they really act like the UN declared sex and procreation a human (see male) right.... newsflash weirdos - it's not. get over your scarcity mindset and find a hobby that isn't porn.
[–]WatzooFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
It really is something that separates the sexes I think. I’m not sure what to think about it. Men are driven by the promise of sex and use it to form their identity in a way that women just don’t. Men try to project that identify-by-sexual-activity onto women with the virgin/whore complex, the desireability-age stuff, but we reject it because we simply aren’t wired to base our entire identity on what’s happened on, in, to or around our genitals (or what we’ve done with other people’s). For women, sex is just one faucet of who we are, but it feels often like it’s EVERYTHING for a man deciding who he is.
It irritates me that we always focus on how women’s sex drives are as strong as mens. They may be, I don’t know, I don’t really care. But our identity isn’t rooted in our sexual activity the way men’s is. I think that’s behind our dramatically different levels of obsession and abuse in the sexual space. I can still be a full person without banging someone, poorly or otherwise. Bob over here feels that he can’t be a full person without that.
I like to go to military museums in any new city I’m in because the massive massive machinery there dedicated solely to murdering other humans is a really shocking insight into what thousands of men over centuries have dedicated their time and energy toward doing. It’s a bleak reminder that men are motivated by killing and sex. And every time I’ve said that to a guy, they’ve laughed, paused and said something like, “well, actually just sex. All this is cuz you have to thin the competition somehow. And take their opportunities for sex.”
Of course, I’m using blanket statements here and there are outliers that this doesn’t apply to on both sides of the gender divide and all that. These are just the trends I’ve observed. They scare me though- it’s such a dehumanizing way to live.
[–]XRozeFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Omg I love your thoughts on this, thank you for sharing. So many good points, totally agree with the sex as an identity thing. There is nothing that women as a group go to the same lengths to achieve. Yes procreation is important to us, but we wouldn’t kidnap a young boy and chain him up in our basement for 20 years just to do so. Whereas men have been taking child brides for centuries. Men invented patriarchy and all its institutions/hegemonic mechanisms - religion, capitalism, marriage, gender-pay inequality, and they use violence to reinforce them. It seems like men inherently know if it weren’t for women’s systematic oppression, most of them would never procreate/have sex and would live their lives as incels. Maybe this is why they hate FDS, since we’d figure this out and force them down that path by refusing to put out en masse.
[–]WatzooFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Oh, that’s definitely the conclusion to this perspective. You’re absolutely right. I hadn’t thought of it in the context of their response to FDS (which is so over the top for what’s here).
For men, any threat to their ability to have sex must feel like they’re being erased as a human being. No wonder they’re so quick to threaten violence at a simple refusal to touch their penis.
What a shame that, instead of therapy and guidance to fix that, their unhealthy perspective has been indulged and caused so much human suffering.
[–]XRozeFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
any threat to their ability to have sex must feel like they’re being erased as a human being
Men's Rights movements like RedPill reassert this claim. Their modus operandi is equating men not getting sex with the systematic human rights abuses experienced oppressed classes.
I'm ready to get a bullhorn and a soap box so I spread the good word of FDS.
[–]WatzooFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s such a toxic way of thinking. If this is a mental trap that a lot of men fall into, it’s probably something we should promote therapy and behavioral adjustment for.
I can’t imagine my entire being and worth being tied up in whether someone will touch my crotch. It sounds like a horrible way to live.
[–]XRozeFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree! We should also regulate porn and ban violent porn altogether. Clearly orgasming to women being humiliated and beaten is wiring men's brains for the worse.
[–]KittyIchigo1FDS Newbie36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nonono, see that's where you're wrong. You're setting too high a standard there. /s
[–]ProtoetypeFDS Newbie87 points88 points89 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
"The moderators are also proudly kink-shamey"
Wasn't this whole article kink shaming us? We're not allowed to want what we want?
According to VICE BDSM where women are beaten is fine but FDS is "Strange and mean-spirited" For wanting good men.
[–]shmarharFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Kink shaming is our kink
[–]ProtoetypeFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
hahahaha
[–]SuitablePerformance3FDS Disciple8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They say that like it's a bad thing lmao. Kink is basically rape, and rape culture wrapped up in bullshit reasoning, and lukewarm allure.
[–]nomaki221FDS Newbie215 points216 points217 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I hope this journalist has enough body and stamina to date all the mentally sick, poor, bdsm abusing men that the rest of us are leaving out on the streets for her.
Would these people suggest their own little sister, mom to date sexualy abusive men with mental health issues???????
[–]madonna_whorecomplexFDS Apprentice45 points46 points47 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes
[–]SadClownProstituteFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, absolutely, because then they could spend hours and hours dissecting every single conversation in depth and showing their sisters and mothers why the men are right and their sisters and mothers are wrong.
"Oh I know you don't like that he is having an ongoing affair with someone at work, but let's really dig into what is wrong with you that made him do such a thing - once we fix you, he'll stop cheating!"
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie88 points89 points90 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jesus Christ I can't believe we have to defend not wanting to get abused to the publication that hired a MAN who was a DOCUMENTED WHITE SUPREMACIST to run their women's vertical.
I hate it here.
[–]fancy_tetrahedronFDS Newbie355 points356 points357 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jesus lord. Apparently not wanting to date an abusive psycho mysoginist man-child who lives in his mom's basement makes us misandrists. The way they twist our words and make us the bad guys is hilarious.
[–]DallasOMalleyFDS Newbie190 points191 points192 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm struggling to understand how avoiding men who are struggling with their finances is "strange". Dating costs money. A man who's "struggling with his finances" should not be participating in optional activities that may cost him money.
We're helping these guys out by avoiding them. 🤷♀️
[–]oddcharmFDS Newbie56 points57 points58 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s strange for us but they’re allowed to whine about gold diggers all day 😂 help me understand!
There’s no issue when they will literally be the reason their “partner” is struggling with finances in the first place, by using 50/50 as an ultimatum, but us choosing to avoid that situation altogether is wrong 💀 just browse AITA for countless examples of this happening (usually the comments do set those bastards straight tho)
Edit: my bad for tagging the sub mods! 🙏🏽
[–]XRozeFDS Newbie23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
oh noooooo broke ass men who will never ever even earn enough income to own a home won't have a chance to procreate bc the big bad fdsers are soooo mean
[–]skyerippaFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because they push the struggling love agenda and its gross
[–]McccyFDS Apprentice561 points562 points563 points 5 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
I can't help but laugh with this. WHY on earth should I date someone with a mental illness or ED? I'm waiting, gimme a good reason why.
[–]complex_answer_22FDS Apprentice463 points464 points465 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Give him a chaaaance, he's a good guy deep down. He won't even ask you to pay him back for the dollar ice cream cone he bought you.
On a serious note though, I hate this idea forced onto us that "nobody is perfect". Yeah, nobody is perfect, but I've also never intentionally misled a man to get sex or money out him. I've never lied, cheated, or gaslit a man. I've never abandoned a man out of the blue during a traumatic time in his life. When we say nobody is perfect, they don't mean major character flaws or a shitty moral compass.
[–]millennialpink2000FDS Newbie223 points224 points225 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nobody is perfect, but I actively work on myself and my worst impulses. How many of these losers can say that??
[–]LurkForYourLivesFDS Newbie149 points150 points151 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nobody’s perfect, and NOBODY deserves pity sex because of it. Pitiful and such a bizarre stance for them to take.
[–]_RustInPiece_FDS Apprentice69 points70 points71 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pity sex, mediocre relationships, ... LVM/LVW will resent you when you give them what they claim to want from others.
[–]Dexaroo5716FDS Newbie19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
[–]airhostess_inthe60sFDS Newbie197 points198 points199 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Especially since those SAME men wouldn't date a woman with a mental illness (or worse they would take advantage of it) AND they wouldn't date a woman who's chubby or has no boobs, or has a low sex drive and the list goes ooooon...
[–]Equal-Ear2312FDS Apprentice7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men constantly prey on mentally ill women. They will stick their dick in anything. But reciprocation and respect? Never!
[–]elementalviragoFDS Apprentice255 points256 points257 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Because "men deserve to be loved for who they are". Yet these dipshits would never be caught dead even being seen with a fat or ugly chick.
[–]r4nd0m-u53rFDS Newbie139 points140 points141 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But we are good enough to have sex with. Just not to actually date ... Pft
[–]ThesociodarkFDS Newbie50 points51 points52 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm mentally ill myself and I don't think anyone with serious issues should be in a relationship/try dating unless they work HARD on themselves. Have some empathy, you can literally drag down everyone around you if you're in a bad state, there's no need to involve someone new to this, and being mentally ill also means you're a lot more vulnerable yourself too.
[–]ThoraFriganzaFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly I'm mentally ill and that's a big reason why I'm single, I don't think I'm ready for a relationship right now. Take some responsibility. That said I'm not saying no to anyone, depends how it feels like, how he treets me, if I get any warning signals. But I definitely don't want someone with narcissustic personality disorder or sociopathy.
[–]gibgerbabymummyFDS Apprentice0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
BPD here. Didn't even know until last year! But I've been married for several years. I wouldn't date the way I am now, don't think I could cope with that so if my husband imploded I would stay alone and this sub has helped confirm that DANG that's a good choice! Hope you girls aren't struggling too much now 😘
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[–]pearlspaghettiFDS Newbie107 points108 points109 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No, no, how dare you. How dare you for not putting up with psychological torment and financial abuse. How dare you for prioritizing your well-being. You’re supposed delight in the struggle! You’re supposed to embrace every sleepless night! You’re supposed to plow through every time you felt like your trust was violated and your heart was broken! You’re supposed to be the stoic caretaker to the person who’s setting your world on fire and sit and smile as everything around you burns to the ground. You’re supposed to sacrifice your entire life for someone who doesn’t appreciate it anyway. You have some audacity to not be the martyr that the pickme at Vice says that you were supposed to be.
[–]indisfuryFDS Newbie20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This!!!
[–]skyerippaFDS Newbie34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women are literally vilified for having bpd but we are being expected to date men who are mentally ill and in most cases not even seeking treatment
[–]Colour_riotFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We're vilified for having periods lol. Like "you are feeling tired and moody from being in fucking pain every month? you must be psycho!!"
Everytime I see a meme about how a girl is "going crazy" at her "poor bf" because she's on her period, I just want to barf.
Please men, your worries in life are so non-existent that you have to complain about biology? Grow a baby in your testes then
Meanwhile actual fucking psychos are given a gold star for being "such a nice guy" while serving time for the 19 rapes and murders that they committed.
what the actual fuck
[–]souredskittlesFDS Disciple77 points78 points79 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t you want to build him and his dick up? You’re so selfish, no man would want to date you with an attitude like that. Be more empathetic towards soft dicks, they can’t help it. Have fun with the wall.
In all seriousness can’t wait for a spike in subs 👍🏼👍🏼
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie74 points75 points76 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
because men are owed sex from women. -- the bros at Vice
[–]jenneke-gotenbergFDS Newbie35 points36 points37 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
To enhance your genuine interest in BDSM. Please keep up.
[–]midgetsinheavenFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only if I'm in charge
[–]jasmine-blossomFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t think anyone at fds would look down on a woman whose boyfriend or husband has mental illness or other issues as long as he is taking responsibility for himself and getting help. Fds is more concerned with women who stay in toxic relationships bc the man uses his issues as an excuse for his behavior.
And this is extremely common!!! Women are often raised to give men the benefit of the doubt and tolerate abuse or unhealthy behavior bc “he just needs time to get himself together” or “he has some maturing to do” or “he needs support while he’s healing himself.”
Women are not meant to light ourselves on fire to keep a man warm. It is not our job to tolerate bad behavior just because a man hasn’t healed himself yet. There is a difference between supporting your partner as they work on bettering themselves and being a doormat bc a guy hasn’t been to enough therapy and is using his issues as an excuse to mistreat you.
[–]OrangeyPandaFDS Apprentice63 points64 points65 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dating financially secure, mentally healthy, normal dicked men that don't beat women is my kink, stop kink shaming me VICE.
[–]wheredoestaxgoFDS Newbie171 points172 points173 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Ughh these pickmeisha journalists
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie92 points93 points94 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
vice has a loooooong history of sexually harassing their female employees and generally being a boys club that hates women.
[–]SuitablePerformance3FDS Disciple103 points104 points105 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't like the word handmaidens but it's literally what she's doing because she's not just being a pickme for men, but the entirety of the patriarchy. Sad.
[–]ddamayaFDS Newbie50 points51 points52 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s Vice, I’d hardly call it journalism. It’s been about as journalistic as Buzzfeed for years now lol
[–]ddamayaFDS Newbie117 points118 points119 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
“Many of their views come across as simplistic, strange and mean-spirited.” So we’re a bunch of mean girls who tell other women not to date men who treat them like trash or like walking fleshlights? 😤😤🤣🤣
[–]ChocoBananzaFDS Apprentice34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, we are! And I’m so proud of us, and on this supportive community. More meanies, please!
[–]SuitablePerformance3FDS Disciple4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The same old shit, don't they use this same reason to hate on teenage girls? Because they're soooo mean and catty./s
Fucking pathetic whiny ass fucks.
This is a place to rant about verbal abuse on the streets and hellish relationships, if we wanna be mean, WE'VE GOT A GOD-DAMN REASON TO BE!!
[–]souredskittlesFDS Disciple57 points58 points59 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do they reference the critics when they “interviewed” only 4-5 people, 3 of which gave positive reviews and one of them was a man. Just lol
I reaffirm:
Don’t date mentally ill men and no brokies either. Don’t try to build them. Say no to limp dicks.
[–]millennialpink2000FDS Newbie331 points332 points333 points 5 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
"because a woman might have a genuine interest herself"
Ummmm this has been covered extensively on FDS. Dig deeper into how 'genuine' that interest is, and it's a cocktail of societal brainwashing, unprocessed trauma, pressure from a partner etc etc. Too bad she nicely skipped over all that instead of being oh I don't know..a journalist and examining it.
She just waved her pick me flag high into the air
[–]licoricespicedteaThrowaway Account218 points219 points220 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. All it takes is a casual stroll on the bdsm subs to see that most of the women there are vulnerable and have low self esteem, and whatever “Doms” they post about are taking advantage of them. I used to be pretty into a lot of degrading kinks when I was younger but somehow they magically disappeared as I grew up and gained some confidence and self respect.
[–]stonemermaidFDS Newbie62 points63 points64 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I used to be pretty into a lot of degrading kinks when I was younger but somehow they magically disappeared as I grew up and gained some confidence and self respect
You hit the nail on the head there. ALL my risky sexual behaviors, promiscuity, and "interest" in dangerous and unhealthy "kinks" went right out the door the second I worked through some trauma and started caring about myself. God forbid all women and girls learn to have confidence and respect themselves, then who would the poor menz manipulate into sexual abuse???
[–]ThoraFriganzaFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it should be more accepted to realise that you might have some serious problems if you have kinks (not saying everyone have) and not just try to hide from it with degrading sex.
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie87 points88 points89 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They don't care about abuse or that women die from men strangling them during sex. They are mad we aren't making it easy for men to abuse us. That's their agenda.
[–]millennialpink2000FDS Newbie58 points59 points60 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Funny how that works, eh?
[–]atreegrowsinbrixtonFDS Newbie89 points90 points91 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
my new fetish is being worshipped
[–]Charming-Bee-2337FDS Newbie15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Same
[–]Charming-Bee-2337FDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Uh why do I have this flair..? Never said anything pick me on this sub.
[–]ChocoBananzaFDS Apprentice10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s an automatic flair for the new joiners. Nothing personal, and you’ll get more flattering flare in time and with more activity.
I actually think it’s very symbolic, because (almost) all of us here were pickmes, and it takes a while to unlearn these behaviours. And also, after a person gets a new flair, like Newbie, Apprentice, Strategist, they don’t get demoted, they get banned for inappropriate behaviour. Which I think is beautiful 😁
[–]MissYouMagdalenFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It says 'newbie' not pickme. Its a badge of honor, wear it with pride. The majority of us probably had a pickme phase I know I did. Your flair just means that part is over and you are working on your better life.
[–]soulandtheseaFDS Newbie92 points93 points94 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
over time and after reading more into this sub, i'm really starting to unpack the reasons why i thought i liked rough sex. i realize now how much of it was performative and i've made the conscious decision not to engage in any form of bdsm anymore. feels pretty good!
[–]ThunderofHipHipposFDS Apprentice80 points81 points82 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If it's so healthy, why get defensive about it?
If I said, "eating broccoli is bad for you," you'd know it's false and simply ignore me.
The reason they get so worked up about our "kink shaming" is because they know getting off to hurting women is unhealthy.
[–]mermaid-babeFDS Newbie42 points43 points44 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They never take five seconds to actually research. Thanks for the free publicity vice!
[–]CorporalWotjekFDS Newbie66 points67 points68 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Another complaint I see frequently levied against FDS & radical feminism is that we’re infantilising women by attributing their choices to the socialisation process (a real phenomenon sociologists study with real-world repercussions), but isn’t it more infantilising to believe that no woman would ever opt into misogynistic practices and that every choice a woman makes is automatically a feminist one 🙄
[–]FMAB-EarthBenderFDS Newbie57 points58 points59 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And somehow we are femcels or incels, even though the point is that to many men so way to much interest in all of us and a lot of us want to be left alone. From what I gathered in incel subs, they have no one giving them any interest and they feel entitled to it.
Its the opposite here. We want to be left alone unless you show us some fucking high quality stuff. Guys WONT leave us alone. They have no woman chasing after them and being creepy on a daily basis problem.
I'm not involuntary celibate, im voluntary not wanting to say yes to any advances from men who aren't worth it in my eyes. I get to many advances and creeps.
Another misconception is if they are hot guys we would always let them in. Um no? I know plenty of attractive males who are disgusting on the inside. If anything i have my guard up MORE if they are attractive, because that means pickmeishas are probably all over them and constantly would be a problem.
And super attractive guys know they are attractive and get a huge head about it. Act despicable. Im always weary. Lmao, if anyone took a second to read they would see this isn't a sub full of women incels. Total opposite.
Only volcels here!
A basic understanding of socialization and advertising tells us that pretty much all of our decisions are influenced in one way or another and it’s not just women who are influenced but men as well and everyone else of every identity.
The choice of toothpaste I used this morning was influenced by my upbringing, exposure to advertisement, education and awareness, and what options are available at my local pharmacy.
Advertise it wouldn’t be the 138 billion industry it is if it were ineffective.
Gendered socialization is particularly powerful because it feeds into a lot of basic ideas about our identities in our sex and the identities of those different from us and it has the support of years and years of religious, social, political, and economic reinforcement.
Gender wouldn’t need the reinforcement of social shame and stigma, religious rules and regulations, advertisements and propaganda, and many other supporters if everything we did as women and men were “natural.”
[–]millennialpink2000FDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
More reductive reasoning
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie43 points44 points45 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love how they have to frame it as if the woman is following her curiosity because it's so obvious that it benefits only men this is the best they could do and still have it be plausible.
[–]JessicaOkayyyFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I can actually speak on that myself. I thought I was genuinely interested in some kinks and rough sex myself. I later realized I lead myself to believe I was into it, because I felt my partner would view me in higher regard. Basically it was Pick Me stuff.
I’ve come to find that I actually don’t like most of it. Some of it, a very few some, I actually like, but it’s the non-violent ones. I am actually more into the kinks that women get more pleasure from, but never even thought to bring them up because I knew if they didn’t directly involve the pleasure of the man, he would not do them. And that’s pretty fucking sad.
I had a very traumatic experience doing “swapping” once because of this. There I was thinking I was genuinely interested in trying out swapping and that I would like it, and it turned out that neither of us liked it lol, not even my partner. We both got into the car and we’re like “That was nothing like how I thought it would be, let’s not do this again.” I was so dry that the entire ordeal was very painful, and the guy was very rough and had no clue what women actually liked.
[–]millennialpink2000FDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for sharing your experience.
"if they didn’t directly involve the pleasure of the man, he would not do them."
Yup, and there it is. That's kink in a nutshell
[–]nothing998FDS Newbie109 points110 points111 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I never viewed sex violently or exploitatively until I saw porn. This preference is not inherent, but adopted by women with low self esteem who want to be wanted by men.
What kind of mentally well young girl dreams of being choked and slapped by her prince charming?
[–]Charming-Bee-2337FDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This.
[–]bizzybumblebeeFDS Newbie93 points94 points95 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
she needs a dose of critical thinking
[–]hyperjinxxFDS Newbie46 points47 points48 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Men tell each other not to date women who have a mental illness, are a bad lay, or terrible with finances so I’m not sure what the argument is here? Oh right, it’s that women shouldn’t dare to have standards.
[–]ItsFreezenFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]throwaway1378420FDS Newbie84 points85 points86 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"toxic misandry" good lmao.
[–]FluffandRaincloudsRuthless Strategist44 points45 points46 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
"Misandry" TFOH with that shit, Vice. This culture wants us dumb, naive, compliant, malleable, and uninformed to allow men to use and abuse us.
The libfem narratives are telling us to approach each man with doe-eyed, coquettish wonderment and throw caution to the wind. This is why so many of us believed men's lies about "seeing where things go" and "don't assume men might just want sex before you get to know them." This conditioning wants us to give every red flag-bearing man the benefit of the doubt:
Examples: Be open to hookups, but don't have a high body count! Put yourself in dangerous situations, but don't get raped, injured or killed! Tell a man everything about yourself but never ask about his female friends! You have to dress to the nines and go 50-50 on dates, but don't get mad when he ogles the server! Swapping body fluids and risking pregnancy is less intimate than talking about feelings! You have a choice, but kink is the RIGHT choice! Ladies, if you dare express the smallest need, you risk scaring him away! Even if he should be giving the same common courtesy to strangers 🤡 etc...
Meanwhile, many of us have been raised to be wary of strange men as little girls. To avoid chatrooms, older teens, to protect our safety and anonymity. Bht once we have some dating experience? "Give him a chance! He's a nice guy! Throw yourselves out to the wolves! Have sex on the first date when you look for monogamy!" No wonder why we have been confused by libfem messages. Because they are not feminist. We as women have every right to remain skeptical about the intentions of men who approach us for dating. We have no idea who is legitimate or a wolf in sheep's clothing at first glance.
The unwritten, yet clearly enforced rule of this article is: acknowledging mistreatment from a man (and taking steps to avoid men who mistreat women) is worse than his mistreatment of you in the first place. 🤡🤡🤡
[–]yellow_pterodactylFDS Newbie77 points78 points79 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why should I be okay with a guy wanting a polyamorous ‘relationship’???
Stop gaslighting, VICE.
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie54 points55 points56 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Because women need to be available for men to fuck 24/7. /s
[–]yellow_pterodactylFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Everytime someone describes it to me, it sounds like a logistical nightmare. I’m good.
Don’t forget ‘ethically’ non-monogamous. Yeahhhh okay.
[–]Trillian_42_FDS Newbie253 points254 points255 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Misandry frankly isn’t real. Men are not capable of being systematically oppressed by women. The fact that they would even engage with that word shows how under educated they are about women’s issues
[–]natashaalexandraFDS Newbie116 points117 points118 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. Also the fact that other women start shouting misandry/incel at other women for simply demanding respect/effort in the dating realm shows how deep internalized misogyny runs in a lot of women.
[–]athousandsillinessesFDS Newbie52 points53 points54 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hard agree. What I don't understand is why some of the same people who accept that racism can't be practiced against white people (because it is not institutionalized), think that misandry is somehow this big bugaboo that needs to be fought against. I don't get it. Like did they just forget themselves? What did they ever learn about intersectionality?
Seems it's either MRAs or woke pickmeishas raging about the horrors of misandry.
[–]sugarplumcutieFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I say this all the time!!!
[–]nyclaurcoFDS Newbie38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
lol, this journalist messaged me on this account to “interview” me. i’m not even an apprentice/expert and only pop by when i’m scrolling waiting for my shower to warm up or something. i ignored it thinking that it was a troll, but i guess they were real after all.
[–]KittyIchigo1FDS Newbie40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wow. I wonder what their questions would have even been. "Do you believe women should be treated like walking fleshlights? Wrong answers only please."
[–]nyclaurcoFDS Newbie24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
she actually said that she wanted some positive opinions of it since everyone else outside of the sub seems to say only bad things. they were asking us if it improved self-esteem and confidence. i assume that it does for most members, but i didn’t really join to get dating advice. i’m just fallout from reddit’s ban of all subreddits that are legitimately women’s spaces. i already was confident. i’m already in a relationship. however, i think that i stay because something did happen to me in the past, and i never sought justice for it. so maybe i am “bitter” about not receiving justice, but i am not afraid to admit that.
[–]catspajatsFDS Newbie38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No one wants to date someone with a mental illness. I have a mental illness and I definitely don’t want to date someone who has one because they aren’t romantic. They’re something that should be properly treated through therapy and other necessary means.
From what I’ve seen, FDS isn’t ableist or against people with mental illness. The philosophy is to stay away from men who don’t even try to take care of themselves mentally, physically or otherwise. Signs of an untreated mental illness are signs of an impending unhappy relationship. As the partner with extreme depression, I would know. My ex was miserable.
But I am happy and healthy now. And if I’m not happy, I work on getting back there. Can LVM say the same?
[–]ethnicallyabiguousFDS Newbie63 points64 points65 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
OH GOODY! I can’t wait for all the new FDS subscribers from this free press! Thank you Streisand effect!
[–]ElizapornberryFDS Newbie30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Makes sense. They can’t pay their reporters so they’d probably not be cool with paying for dates.
[–]ChocoBananzaFDS Apprentice7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahahah, nothing but truth!
[–]favoritesoundFDS Newbie29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So are they going to follow up with an article about how the pick up artist community and red pill community are super misogynistic?
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
absolutely not
[–]warinmymind94FDS Apprentice108 points109 points110 points 5 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Some butthurt man wrote that article. Yeah it's so WILD we don't want to date broke or mentally ill dudes... I can't even read that article seriously. Who would want to date someone broke or mentally ill? Therapy / professional help is a must before dating and broke dusty should be at work not dating.
[–]MarbleWorldRuthless Strategist[S] 83 points84 points85 points 5 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
No it was a pickmeisha unfortunately.
[–]McccyFDS Apprentice83 points84 points85 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Omg. Imagine actually writing this, thinking it's so good and posting it on twitter for the whole world to see 😂 "They don't want the date MentallY iLl meN!!"
[–]millennialpink2000FDS Newbie53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeahhh they're not making the argument they think they are...
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
especially since they don't run articles about the thousands of men with platforms telling men not to date women who have been sexually abused.
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I am 100% positive her editor was a bro who thought it would be so edgy but didn't want his name attached to it.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Disciple33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yes, he got a woman to write the story to make the criticism seem more legitimate and obscure the fact that it serves men's interests.
Most editors are men. Ninety percent of mine were.
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If you’re not familiar w vice, it’s even worse than being all men at the top. Google their history w treating women. Becomes a little more clear why they think women not sleeping w them is misandrist. 😐🤔
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Disciple16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm familiar. I remember reading the story about the Vice editor who tricked a female employee into "dating" him.
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yup.
Still up to it.
Gotta trick women into sleeping with you by calling them misandrists if they don't.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Disciple9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
🙄
[–]XRozeFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is exactly what i thought too
[–]SuitablePerformance3FDS Disciple1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well known and used tactic. Put women at the front of these things to take the heat.
If you want to attack feminism or women centered spaces, use women. If you want to have someone take the fall for what's currently going wrong, use women, they do this a lot in politics and business.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Disciple1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely.
[–]warinmymind94FDS Apprentice63 points64 points65 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Big yikes!! I was guessing it was a butthurt dude who got rejected, but wow supreme pickmes never cease to disgust me. That author might as well wear a clown outfit... if she wants broke, mentally ill, pornsick men to have one night stands then let her have at it. We are here if she's ready to ever respect herself
[–]natashaalexandraFDS Newbie47 points48 points49 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah not sure why she is upset we don't want them 🤷♀️ more small dicked, mentally ill, pornsick, freeloader guys to slap her around on the first date!
[–]Important_Page_6846FDS Newbie24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
🤣🤣 seriously though, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Misery loves company and there’s nobody more miserable than a pick me woman.
[–]oddcharmFDS Newbie19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m going to hell for laughing because that’s literally what SO MANY people are desperate for. Waiting to wake up from this dream 😂
[–]Platipus6FDS Apprentice33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Apparently we're failures if we don't either act as professional (unpaid) therapists for men, or at least keep them off the streets and safe in our vaginas.
[–]Free_Bee_XXFDS Newbie53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They are so fucking fragile.
There have been incel subs for years and no one cared. There are pro rape subs, there are pedo subs, but no - FDS is sooooo mean :(
[–]trapolitics2053 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
BREAKING NEWS: WOMEN NOW ENFORCING BASIC STANDARDS IN DATING, BORING BALD MEN LOSE THEIR COLLECTIVE SHIT
[–]EmoDreamFDS Newbie27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The world is messed up. we are allowed to stand up for our rights and have different opinions. honestly they are more normal opinions than the corruption around us. Don’t want to be in a bad relationship, don’t be. that’s not for the rest of the world to worry about. The crazy thing is the men are allowed to have misogynistic groups and pretty much every spot on the whole internet has misogynistic conversations and they are allowed to. No one is stopping them. I need a support group of women because men have only made me have internalized misogyny. I have to pretend I hate my own gender in order to be friends with guys or date guys. Men hate everything that’s for women.
[–]champagnebjsFDS Newbie23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LOL. “Struggling with finances.” Well EXCUSE ME, for wanting some effing stability for myself and my future.
[–]MinkieminkFDS Newbie25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thinking that Vice must be primarily written by mentally ill broke dudes with small dicks that barely work because of their porn habits who are also sexually aroused by beating us. Just saying.
[–]alwaysonalongtripFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yes they have been outed as exactly this
[–]BungalowBootieBitchFDS Newbie24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
In the time I've been part of FDS, which I think is over a year now, I've learned a lot of things. Things which forced me to reflect on my past, my decision making, and generally dealing with a lot of skeletons in the closet. I've always operated from the assumption that FDS isn't a monolith. There are things we can all agree on and perhaps some things we won't. At the end of the day, however, the message I got from FDS is, "ladies, you don't need a man to having a fulfilling life, but if you do find someone you want to be with, make sure they come to you correct." I used to be absolutely terrified of the idea of never having a partner. Then I got one and suddenly my whole identity became my relationship. I can't even explain how lost and hurt I felt when I had to end it. I spent a long time crying and living in a toxic home didn't help. Sometimes I look back and wonder what if, but I know I'm better off here. I don't cry anymore either.
People can debate FDS till they're blue in the face. All I know is that I'm not afraid to be alone anymore.
Edit: Thank you for the silver! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
[–]WchijafmFDS Newbie52 points53 points54 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dang. Vices expectations for men are lower than a pickmes if they think those are things we are being too judgy on.
[–]NoMacaron304122 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I genuinely don't want to date a guy with severe mental illness that he does not put in the effort to fix. I deal with mental illness that I am actively working on. I can't date someone who will drag me down mentally when I'm in a fragile state, especially if they lack the motivation to better themselves. I don't get why that is controversial to protect my own mental health.
[–]XRozeFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
men lose their minds if you tell them this. their patterns of failures in dating are never related to their untreated mental health issues yet all women's dating advice is self development focused......
when a guy w mental health issues he refuses to treat kills 30 people in a mass shooting or murders his wife and kids he gets 15 documentaries, a hollywood film and an interview on 60 minutes
[–]MulticoloredCatMugFDS Newbie20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Obviously whoever wrote this is interested isn't critiquing FDS in good faith.
I think it's strange that VICE is pro-kink and pro-poly, but apparently doesn't understand the basic concept of consent. We don't have to date anyone we don't want to date. It's not hateful to reject a person as a romantic/sexual partner for any reason. Gross men are not a legally protected class of people and we definitely don't owe them anything.
[–]BralessAndConfusedFDS Newbie20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck VICE!
[–]sativasmile21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LMFAO the minute a woman sets boundaries she’s seen as “strange” and “mean spirited.” vice can fuck RIGHT off with that
[–]witchingsauceFDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You have to be odd to be number 1 💁♀️
[–]XRozeFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i love this lol
[–]Jiou112FDS Newbie43 points44 points45 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As incorrect as that article was about this sub, I couldn't help but think... uh yeah? Like are you trying to make us sounds bad? "They don't want to date garbage men! What a bunch of meanie heads. Hmph." Like ye...yeah. Scrotes can die mad. Thanks FDS.
[–]Suspicious-Leg-1407FDS Apprentice18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kink-shaming vs telling women that sex shouldn't involve being criminally assaulted...
Yikes, vice, learn the difference.
[–]rysedgFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
God, I love us. There’s never been a mindset I agreed with more. THANK YOU FDS. Until I was here I didn’t know others like me - truly like me - existed
[–]XRozeFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
for real - write 'thank you fds' on my tombstone
[–]rysedgFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amen sister. And now that you mention it- I ‘ve always thought the words to the song “I Am The Highway” should go on my tombstone. Very fitting for all FDSers
[–]nymphaetamineFDS Disciple16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh look another "journalist" putting words in mouths and making shit up for clicks.
Yes I am proudly kink-shamey, because I'm not obligated to accept anyone's perversions. I'm sorry your dick is so numbed by porn that you have to do progressively weirder, more deviant things to get off, but stay away from me with your creepy fetishes. How about get some therapy instead of sewing a fleshlight into a stuffed toy.
BDSM and polyamory ARE disrespectful and for mens' benefit, how is this even up for debate? I have never in my 40 years met a female participant of either who was not mentally ill or coerced into it. Show me even ONE well-adjusted, mentally healthy woman with no past traumas who genuinely enjoys getting hit or sharing her man with other women. No rush, I'll wait.
No I won't date mentally ill men anymore, because every single one I've dated in the past has abused me and used their mental illness to excuse it. I guess I'm a bigot for learning from my past experiences.
Yeah, broke men are out cause I don't like being used for money, which is literally exactly what's happened every time I've dated a man who couldn't hold a job and pay for his own shit. I'm not a fucking ATM.
I hope the author gets picked, but the knowledge and empowerment I've gained here has changed my life for the infinite better. I no longer settle for broke, psychotic abusers and I feel more secure and happy than I ever have. If that makes me a "misandrist"...... ¯\(ツ)/¯
[–]ddamayaFDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Scrotation means we’re keeping scrotes on rotation??? Make it make sense. We wouldn’t entertain a scrote, let alone a whole rotation of them!
[–]ForwardgashFDS Apprentice35 points36 points37 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“Experts”. Mmmkay.
[–]WatzooFDS Newbie36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Awwwww.
Do we have a container set up for the author’s tears? At least we can be environmentally conscious and recycle the water. It’s spring and my low-maintenance plants are bringing me joy with exactly the predicted and agreed upon amount of work and support on my part. It’s lovely.
[–]hijabae_FDS Newbie36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m proudly strange AF
[–]sleepinginwonderland50 points51 points52 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I just don't think that a man who can't buy a dinner for a woman at an average restaurant should go on dates. If he can't afford paying for a woman he is just not ready for dating. He should probably spend these evenings studying, taking some courses to switch to a better job, or at least drive some uber to make some extra bucks. Instead they embarrass themselves and make women uncomfortable by inviting them on dates and then expecting 50/50.
[–]potmakesyouparanoidFDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, I hope that mentally ill, broke ass dude with a small dick saw her pickme article and finally asked her out on a date, where they split 50/50 and she has disappointing sex with the vague promise more might be possible in the future if she hangs on long enough. He's all yours!
[–]skyerippaFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No one said men said men with small penises are a no go. A lot of us merely stated we like big dicks.
Stating a preference does not = hating small penises.
[–]SewudFDS Disciple13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's actually a good endorsement of FDS lol.
I mean take the sentence "forced vasectomies are good, pornography and sex work are bad". Then flip it and you have what society thinks "forced vasectomies are bad, pornography and sex work are good". So it's basically just accepted when it's women forced into shitty stuff, but to suggest the opposite is unthinkable?
In the US 60% of women of reproductive age are on hormonal birth control. How is this not mass sterilization? And you don't think that's forced? You don't think the media and society has constructed the notion that all girls are on hormonal birth control and that's just how it is to keep sex safe for everyone? Why would it be any different to normalize young men getting vasectomies until they are ready? Is it not just as fucking invasive to pump young women full of hormones? You never forget you exist as a sex object, your alarm reminds you every day. And what about the cost, the side effects, the stress of forgetting it, your boyfriend always banging you without reprieve, the environmental pollution. Women are like farm animals in the view of this author.
[–]Darkmatter_777FDS Newbie33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe they agree with us deep down, so they want to spread the word about us and send more people over to FDS by talking about us.
[–]idiayFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao
[–]Lady__stoneheartFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Who wrote that shit? And they got paid for it? All the answers are right there, what are they questioning exactly?
[–]rwilkzFDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s vice so they were probably paid in exposure bucks
[–]rebel4acauseFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course this "journalist" has previously written pro-porn and pro-poly articles 🙄
[–]_boring_daven_FDS Newbie22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We deserve to have standards. There’s nothing wrong with holding my partner to the same standards I hold myself to. If I have to have a job to pay bills, so should they. If I’m gonna get a college degree, so should they. Men with any net worth don’t date broke women (without expecting to financially abuse them), so why should women?
[–]helppleasekkFDS Newbie24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LOOOOOOL
THEY WANT FDS TO BE EVIL SO BAD
[–]killerzombieunicorn410 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/B60ZMeAIUAAk6y-.jpg
[–]lickyblickyuhhFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Vice is a terrible news site and has a bad rep for destroying innocent people’s reputations. I wouldn’t even take their articles with a grain of salt
[–]FrozenExpanseFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pickmes feeling pressed lol 😂
Thanks for the free publicity idiots!
[–]Cristinky420FDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Forget what some people think. So what if they don't agree with the philosophies and discussions we have here.
Personally you ladies and this sub has changed my life and perspective. I was raised in a traditional Eastern European household and am a domestic violence survivor and this sub changed my thinking.
I draw strength and self love from the content here. I have learned what I have done wrong in the past and I have become more proud of my own self and the choices I make. I feel more empowered as a woman. I feel safer and stronger understanding warning signs and behaviours that I am not interested in inviting into my life. I know I can make wiser decisions in relationships and for myself going forward because I am more aware of my self worth and respectful of myself.
This sub helped me feel this. So forget what other say... Haters gonna hate.
I appreciate all of you. Thank you.
[–]imarriedmybookshelfFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i refuse to date any guy with mental health issues. Not to stigmatize I KNOW ya'll with it sre strugglinh but these dudes PURPOSELY do not seek treatment so you can be bangmommytherapymaid and they can use it to guilt trip you each time you say no.
Him: "baby i want you" Her:"not in the mood im busy" Him: "you dont care about me then. I have rejection issues. You are triggering me. I will commit s*icide at your doorstep. I am #triggered. You dont care about #mensmentalhealth"
OR
Him: "im not allowed ti work. Everythingnis #triggering" (proceeds to play vidya and watch porn for hours on end) Her: gives practial helpful real world advice that takes whatever mental health issue he has into consideration Him: "no, you dont know my hdudjdphobia of therapy!!! Why arr you pressuring me to be productive, thats misandrist!! Men can relax too and be houseband , gold digger! You are triggering!!!"
Again, im not shaming or dragging mental illness in general. I understand some people have a tough time and its fine but if guy refuses to do anything about it, uses it as a crutch to be lazy and guilt trip you into sex, hard hard hard HARD no.
[–]relationship_redditFDS Newbie25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The difference between us and scrotes is that we don't care what their standards are - if we don't like the scrote, we just won't date him. Scrotes on the other hand, want to force us to change our standards so they can date us.
[–]achelois_healerFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Strange until the day I die 😘
[–]uncertainkoala7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And here comes the liberal misogyny at its finest... 🙄🙄
[–]CowgirlMollyFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have a feeling her comments about porn, BDSM, kink and polyamory are going to bring A LOT of women here.
We have a class consciousness, we just don’t get to express it. All women know those things exist only for men’s benefit.
Men are TERRIFIED women everywhere will collectively raise their standards and choose singledom over copulating with the common man. That’s why they malign us—the common man isn’t good enough for most women and he knows it.
Men need to stop riding on entitlement and actually earn their place in women’s lives.
[–]abstractsadgurlFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Vice can fuck off
[–]aoi4egFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I bet 100$ that this "journalist" is a man with a small pp and addiction to violent porn but also wastes all his money on onlyfans in order to pretend that those women like him.
Also, love how it's all completely out of context. We don't want to be free psychologists, catch some nasty shit or end up a single mother because ya'll broke and addicted to роrn, and it's labelled 'misandry'? Well, call me Khaleesi then because this Missandei-ry is never leaving my side!
[–]aquietswordFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We don't date men that haven't gone to therapy to do their own work and that means we "hate men." But men literally target women with "daddy issues" to exploit them for "kinky sex" and it doesn't even cross their minds to think twice about how sick that is. 🥴
[–]wolf_townPickmeisha™️6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who wrote that?! Yikes.
[–]MiaNaimFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Whew someone's big mad!
Honestly, someone should respond with a list detailing all the reasons she's wrong. Sis sounds like she's lost.
[–]ChocoBananzaFDS Apprentice2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope that FDS twitter is having a field day exposing them. On the other hand, it might be beneath them, because it’s so easy to bash VICE. Like, they don’t even have to try.
[–]vitryolicFDS Apprentice6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Considering the utter trash Vice publishes I’d consider this a compliment. Of course they twisted exactly what they found to meet their agenda
[–]cici_sweetheartFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When y’all talk about forced vasectomies? 😂 I have confusion
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There is no such thing as Misandry it was a term invented by MRA's for women wanting nothing to do with them.
[–]Betty_BottleFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dominique at Vice messaged me on here asking what I thought of FDS and how it had helped me. I thought she was fake so I didn't reply.
[–]doc-2-beFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So basically having a preference is a sin now? What about dudes with their list of specifications that they want in a girl? That's somehow okay? Smh
[–]CescaTheGFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Although the VICE article is ignorant, ill-researched and abhorrent. Seeing how threatening they find FDS makes me feel so proud to have landed here and be a regular lurker of this sub. I feel so relieved to know how false this article is.
It’s just sad for other women who could be benefitting from this advice and now may never turn to it because they’ve been scared off.
[–]Alpha_AriesFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is getting a bit out of hand.
[–]roosey09FDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Another bad take from vice, why am I not surprised? Wasn't it co founded by the leader of the proud boys or something? Trash
[–]Yogacat4FDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I just looked up Vice magazine...They actually have a printed ‘Stupid Issue’ (a teddy bear superimposed inside a skyscraper is the cover)
They wack AF! 🤷🏻♀️
[–]wyethwyeThrowaway Account7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just lazy, biased "journalism." They didn't quote any of their sources and also didn't quote the main source. Just men continually giving other men permission to continue to profit off of the patriarchy, the demonization of women, and misinformation. Not surprised one bit.
[–]ScrotonimoStiltonFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pickminique, I hope you get picked soon.
[–]PornruinedsocietyFDS Disciple5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Women are free to chose to date or not date whoever they want, for whatever reason they want, just as men are. Vice is the desperate 'cool girl' pickme of media, pushing agendas that benefit liberal men who still benefit from the patriarchy and wrapping it in a libfem bow.
I'm guessing.... The chief editor is a tiny dick scrote with a kink for choking women in bed.
Vice just hit a new low.
They should have stuck to articles about growing your own weed and urotherapy... 🙄
[–]BigMouthStrksAgn615 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When I first found this sub, I was linked from another sub and they were going on and on about the "toxic, dangerous misandry" and I got curious. The first post I saw on this sub was a woman detailing how she came to the conclusion that she deserved respect that her partner was not giving her, so she decided to leave. The second post was a meme about the importance of women helping each other out, especially in dangerous situations. The third post was a woman describing how she deserved respect and was beginning to heal from the trauma of her horrific sexual assault.
Then as I read more, I got more and more furious. These people liken us to *incels*? Fucking ***INCELS***? Incels who have historically *murdered* women for not having sex with them or *hypothetically* not having sex with them? Incels who vocalize their violent rape fantasies? Incels who laud over a kid who murdered people because he was so socially inept and unaware he decided people had to die because he wasn't given a beautiful virgin? Incels who praise a man who got into a van with the sole purpose of mowing down women for the crime of being women?
I'm fucking furious. We're all aware of the old adage: Men are afraid women will laugh at them, women are afraid men will kill them. Every single woman I know has had to overcome being treated like an actual non-sentient object, used, assaulted, made to feel uncomfortable, brutalized in some way or another. The adjectives go on and on. Oh, I'm sorry. Is it making you fucking upset that maybe some women are sick and tired of being treated like dogs? Like things who needs to listen to commands and love blindly and follow direction regardless of how we are treated?
I...I...I just cant anymore. I can't understand for the life of me why it makes some men so *angry* that we just want to be treated with dignity and respect. But guess what, fuckers, since we are most likely not going to be, it's time to even the playing field for ourselves. Men aren't going to do it. So we're only allowed two options? 1. Do everything we are "supposed to do" in their eyes and be disrespected and miserable and resign ourselves to indentured servitude or 2. be a cold, dead, gold digging bitch who only wants money or whatever the fuck else they think they are offering.
If we weren't constantly getting raped and beaten and attacked and disappeared and coerced and killed then maybe we could calm down and actually try this whole equality thing. But we fucking are. We are getting hurt CONSTANTLY. Do you guys know very many women who haven't been assaulted in some way? I don't know one. not one. They arent going to level the playing field, so guess what, I'm going to take a fucking bulldozer and do it for them. I don't have a choice. I'm not allowing myself to be a victim anymore, and any woman that I am around I will do everything in my power to give her a copy of my keys. Oh, this sub is toxic? How many fucking rape and incest jokes are on this website. How many Pickmeishas are there? (Who only even exist because they weren't ever told they were anything but this one dimensional cardboard cutout of what a woman is supposed to be, so when they are, shocker, a human with likes and interests and a personality that is different from other people, they think they are so special because they have never been told women can be anything else Why wouldn't they feel special? Even Pickmeishas are the fucking patriarchal bullshit's creation.) How many men lose their minds over a beautiful woman posting a picture of herself next to a piece of art that took time and talent to create?
We want a sub to be honest about reclaiming our dignity and it's toxic and terrible? Miss me with that fucking shit. Miss me all the way to Venus, you can stay your ass back in Mars.
[–]AnKeWaFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn girl, hope you're getting the male backpats you deserve for throwing your fellow women under the bus.
[–]Connect-Ad-9361Pickmeisha™️5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I cant beleive I come back from a 3 day vacation and forced vasectomies is the first thing I see
[–]fairywakesFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sad to say I'm not surprised about Vice. Now, we definitely have to be on a higher alert more than ever with infiltrators looking to undermine/ban us.
Never forget what The Wall Street Journal wrote about us!
[–]JessicaOkayyyFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They will never understand the hurt, pain, suffering, and mental work it took to get us here. We didn’t wake up one day and decide we just hated men for no reason and wanted them to suffer because an ex wouldn’t buy us an expensive car one time.
We got here because we eventually realized that most men simply do not care about us as human beings whatsoever. I mean I genuinely believe that most men aren’t capable of actually loving a women and that was terrifying and depressing for me to admit to myself. That wasn’t something I wanted to realize at all, and I took no joy in it either.
It may be hard for some men to understand because they probably genuinely believe they are nice caring men, but I always ask them to evaluate their behavior with other men and behind closed doors. Do you laugh at the sexist jokes your coworker makes? Do you stay silent when you see your friend treating a women badly? Are older women invisible to you? It’s those things that truly make you caring, not how you treat women when you’re wanting something from her, not how you treat them out of view your friends.
We want men to do better and be better. We dream of the day that a sub like this has no need to exist anymore. There is no pleasure in this. This is what happens when we go into survival mode and we are tired.
I want men to see this and get it in their head that we aren’t asking them for millions of dollars and a large dick here. It’s got nothing to do with your looks, getting money from you, or anything else. We are being raped and murdered and assaulted and used and stalked and treated like walking sex machines, nothing more than a body with tits and a vag. We’ve had enough, because this kind of shit is not hard to abstain from doing.
Work. Through. Your. Shit. Get into therapy. Read these stories. Try! But you won’t. Because it’s easier to label us as femcels. It’s easier to say we’re just gold diggers. It’s easier to push it away and think we’re just crazy and that it can’t be that bad. Well, it is that bad. It’s worse actually. Because I can guarantee even the veterans in this group have stories they still struggle to tell.
[–]JessicaOkayyyFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let me also add. Just to show where each genders heads are at here. When it comes to women I hear “I just want to be loved. I just want him to see me as an equal. I wish I had a man that texted me good morning.”
When it comes to males I hear “I can’t get a model to fuck me. Nobody will fuck me. She went on a date with me and then didn’t fuck me.” It’s all about sex. Do they even want to be loved? Do they ever wonder if their partner loves them? I have yet to meet a guy that cared about actual love. As long as they were having sex on a regular basis, they were happy. There is something deeply wrong there.
[–]howdoilogouttFDS Disciple4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What are they on about?! Many young women are taught they have to have sex on their first dates, they are taught that they will find love if they do. IT'S A LIE, I know because it is exactly what I and my friends did. (The mental illness thing is ridiculous I won't even comment on it)
[–]Phoenix__Rising2018Ruthless Strategist3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Typical. Such manipulative and deceptive language as always.
[–]IDontAgreeSorryFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok go be a coolgirl and do polyamory and bdsm with a porn addict who has a small dick and mental illnesses and leave us alone lol
[–]ItsFreezenFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The world hates women.
[–]Suspicious-Traffic-1FDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Strange and HAPPY AND IN FUCKING PEACE
[–]cici_sweetheartFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I found FDS through the subreddit pink pill feminism. I miss that subreddit 😢
[–]SuitablePerformance3FDS Disciple1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have you checked out ovarit.com ?
[–]UnstrirringCoffeeFDS Apprentice4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am being reminded of that creepy Gov. Cuomo calling a woman "aggressive", because she was trying to fend him off. We are not even allowed to enforce our own boundaries without being called "mean".
[–]MrsJohnMarston__FDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well given I know someone who was murdered by a man with MH problems, I’m going to go ahead and say, women are probably best to avoid those men.
[–]RikaRikaw4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
The problem is not dating a man or anyone else with mental illness Our problem is with people who DONT TREAT their mental illness Then use us as a substitute for therapy And if we are not okay with that or any other behavior that they have due to their mental state, we are the bad guys "Oh no! Dont leave me because I hit you and called you all types of bad names ! Im autistic and have bipolar! Poor me!" I dont think anyone here would reject to date someone who is actually treating their problems with a professional and do their best to not have it control their life Except sociopaths and psycopaths Those are helpless
Edit:speeling problems
[–]Spiritual_CockroachFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think its a big misconception of the anti kink stance of FDS to say "rather than women having their own interest in it"... Like no, it's not about that, it's about warning our sisters that men often use kinks to get away with and normalise abuse, having conversations about how those kinks are rooted in violence and degrading women in misogynistic ways (even in a femme domme situation) and therefore it's strongly recommended to not engage in kinks. We can't have those conversations elsewhere without being barraged with kinkmeishas shaming us for "kinkshaming". Eugh this article.
[–]TiffglamourFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What a load of crap! They didn’t even try to make a real point with this swill 🙄
[–]suzy_ko1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like how they’re trying to make it sound like FDS is some crazy community but in fact none of the things on that list are bad. 🤷🏼♀️
[–]Classic_TouchFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Society tells us we should be doing all those things. Plus if we remove all those men what is left? In my experience not much is left for us. Society has turned men into a bunch of low value men who still want the cake and to eat it.
[–]itsmecarlybeeFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men’s rights activists- that’s all you need to read to know this article is trash!
[–]XxShykatxXFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They're threatened by us, why else would they care about one subreddit/site? What about alllll the others that are about toxic masculinity, about fetishizing rape and child rape? Convenient they only care about the one that doesn't benefit them.
[–]randomemadameFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do disagree that polyamory is only for the mans benefit. Holypolymacaronibon insta explain their dynamic and the girls have multiple partner just as much as the man.
But aside fom that "wOoOw wOMen hAvE StAnDaRdS
[–]aTrueJulietteFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bet you a man wrote this article or a “cool girl” that wants men to like her. Pathetic
[–]yolosunshineFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
“Many of their views come across as mean-spirited”
Excuse you WHAT?
Is it ‘don’t date lying men’?
Is it ‘respect yourself and leave if he doesn’t respect you’?
Is it ‘if his idea of forever is netflix and chill, dump him’?
Is it ‘we were culturally brainwashed to accept popping out kids for someone who hates us and will cheat so don’t do that sis?’
Is it ‘hey here’s a list of red flags for cheaters, for rapists, for violence”
FDS is saving lives. Literally.
“Mean-spirited”. Is “men who try to use and hurt women suck and don’t deserve shit”....mean?
Truely gross.
[–]RecentSprinkles5997FDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao when did we support forced vasectomies
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