Men can now message first on Bumble

SwimmingSeason · 2024-05-07T17:48:42+00:00

Never understood how women messaging first was an issue? Women complain about having too many men to message back. So now women could simply message and keep the guys they were interested in. Her inbox would never be overwhelming or full because matches expire if she never messaged them. The app Screams "WOMEN MESSAGE FIRST" like 3 times when signing up. Prompts women to send the first message when they get matches and so on. You would have to be braindead to not know that.

How hard is it for women to read a profile and start a conversation based on similar interest?

Oh, that's right, because most women aren't actually interested in meeting a man for who he is. She looks at a photo, swipes right if he is hot and that's about it. Starting a conversation requires being interesting yourself.

The app failed because when men had to message back it came with the struggle of commenting on her BLANK fucking profile. Copy pasted " I like travel and brunch". And stupid crap like that that always leads to boring conversation.

And if the woman had some actual personality or hobbies, she wouldn't be on the app. conversation just flows when you two are literally colleges. She shoots traditional archery? Entire conservation on history right there. She paints or sculpts and matches with an artist? She works in tech or stem? It's super easy to have conversations with you have deep thought provoking hobbies and passions. ( which would be on the profile. )

Most women on Bumble were either basic Netflix, social media, boss babe consultant chicks. Or women who had high paying jobs but all their hobbies was just spending money to travel and look at things. "Hi" is all most of them can even say no matter how much you fill out your profile.

Im a dude and even I didnt want to spend an entire night trying to force conversation even if sex was guaranteed. 2-3 Dry messages is all she gets before I unmatch. "Hi" counts as 2.

Preme2 · 2024-05-07T16:51:02+00:00

Women don’t want the burden of messaging first, so they placed it back on men.

Dating apps in general are failing. Gen Z is rejecting them and it’s hard to find a sucker who’s willing to pay to keep their business afloat.

TallFoundation7635 · 2024-05-07T19:27:06+00:00

It really is fascinating to me how no woman is commenting under this

Electric_Death_1349 · 2024-05-07T16:47:03+00:00

The first message of 99% of the women on Bumble is 👋

Perhaps that’s why it failed?

shadowrangerfs · 2024-05-07T17:00:35+00:00

It failed because a lot of women thought that a app where women have to message first would be great until they realized, they they actually had to send messages.

vestibularam · 2024-05-07T20:52:36+00:00

I find it funny that when feminists get what they want they are still unhappy.

anonymousUser1SHIFT · 2024-05-07T16:48:13+00:00

The irony behind the fact that so many women, not only didn't know that women Had to message first, but then that a hell of a lot of them got upset because men that they matched with wouldn't message them first...

Out of the women that I know used bubble, not even including online, about half of them didn't know that men couldn't message first. Some giving up and going to a different app and learning about the requirement years later.

Nellylocheadbean · 2024-05-07T18:06:06+00:00

There are some women that went on the app that didn’t even know they have to be the ones to message first.

I think it didn’t work because women probably sent their messages to a small percentage of the men. If most men aren’t having success then they have no reason to be on the app. I would assume that Dating apps are mostly funded by men.

Lack of OR no messages from women = men leaving dating app = low funding since men are leaving.

neinhaltchad · 2024-05-07T19:29:09+00:00

TIL: Women find writing “hey” and “hi” too much work.

They now want the monkey to dance before they type two letters.

East_Writer_2892 · 2024-05-07T17:03:45+00:00

Because women A) don't want to apporach in the first place outside of a very small subset and B) they all have terrible game because the concept of approaching and chatting up a dude is alien to them. They expect men to carry the conversation. Most of the messages I get on bumble are about as bad if not worse than the boring shit most dudes send on stuff like tinder.

Bumble as a concept was always doomed to failure because women (in general) do not make the first move no mater how much some women would like to shout that they don't want to be approached the vast majority want a guy to court them.

Also dating apps in general are failing because they suck. People are shifting back to meeting offline or on Instagram actually. The best use of dating app if you're willing to set it up right is to get hookups.

Wing_Puzzleheaded · 2024-05-07T17:38:56+00:00

They didn't message first anyway, or you got a half assed "Hey" because they've never had to actually put effort into dating, then they expect you the man to carry the remaining 99% of the interaction from there anyways.

63daddy · 2024-05-07T17:25:42+00:00

It’s been politically correct in recent decades to focus on men approaching women who don’t want to be approached by that guy at that time as harassment. What this attitude and what Bumble forget to consider however is that men are expected to approach first so women don’t have to deal with rejection. Many women don’t want the pressure of making the first move to be entirely and continually on them. Similarly, what’s the appeal for men of join a dating site where they can’t contact women they are interested who may also be interested in them? This isn’t going to appeal to a lot of men either.

Bumble was denying many men and many women what they want in terms of online communication. Of course that wasn’t likely to succeed.

Khanluka · 2024-05-07T19:12:17+00:00

Imo woman opening on bumble are copy past to begin with.

Hi

How are you?

Good morning/evening

analt223 · 2024-05-07T19:31:59+00:00

women dont like men that much to message men. They dont deem very many men attractive.

KarmaCameleonian · 2024-05-07T21:40:38+00:00

Why did Bumble’s “women first” approach fail

They were sued by women who felt like having to message first was discriminatory. I shit you not. That's why they rolled it back

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/closed-settlements/bumble-app-messaging-3m-class-action-settlement/

badgersonice · 2024-05-07T17:27:30+00:00

is there a way to design an app that protects women from spammy messaging, unsolicited rude/sexual comments, all the stuff Bumble was designed to address?

One idea would be to limit the number of messages anyone can send out per day, forcing them to be more selective. Or alternately, require some kind of time or money cost for each new contact you try to make.

Basically, just make it so you lose the game if you consistently shoot out of your league.

But... as a major caveat... I'm also pretty pessimistic about online dating. It's very likely this business model would tank, because the very thing the most popular dating apps are selling is the illusion that it'll be so easy for you to find what you're looking for with nothing more than a simple swipe.

superlurkage · 2024-05-08T03:08:20+00:00

When 2/3 of the user base can’t initiate, you won’t profit

berichorbeburied · 2024-05-07T16:55:29+00:00

I want to formulate a question without being misogynist or sexist.

If women do not want to be “forced” to be with men they don’t want or aren’t attracted to.

Then it would be prudent to actually pick and approach and pursue who you are attracted to.

So the question becomes.

Why do women not pick and approach and pursue the men they are attracted to? Why do they not put in the work and effort to attract the men they are attracted to or want?

If women wait for men to approach/pursue or show interest.

Then they are selecting out of only the “willing” participants who pursue/hunt for her.

This will also lead to unwanted attention/ect.

Because every single guy who approaches/hunts for her or initiates. She won’t be attracted to in theory.

I could go on and on.

But I’ll stop for brevity

If women know who they are attracted to or at the very least know who they aren’t attracted to. Why don’t they approach/pursue/hunt men they are attracted to or want?

If they understand that waiting to be hunted/pursued is only selecting out of the men who choose to hunt/pursue them.

And with the understanding that they might not be attracted or want any of the man that are willing to hunt and pursue them.

GummieLindsays · 2024-05-07T19:56:20+00:00

Dating apps just suck. There's nothing natural/organic about them. I hate the idea of basically "shopping" for a dating partner by looking at photos of someone with a brief description. It feels so shallow. I refuse to use a dating app.

raldabos · 2024-05-08T23:04:18+00:00

"If the average women suddenly turned into a man, he would be an in.cel".

Can't get enough of how truth that phrase is.

Downtown_Werewolf_44 · 2024-05-07T17:38:10+00:00

Imo, the idea of letting women message first wasn't that bad. But it was dumb to introduce it in a tinder rip off.

As a dude, the best tactic in tinder is to shoot as much as you (reasonably) can. Bumble was offering exactly the same thing but with the "women message first" feature that was basically an additional difficulty.

As a dude, if you are dumb enough to give money to an OLD, would you suscribe to tinder or to the less populated, women have to message first, discount tinder?

Maybe if bumble had a more chill approach and was offering an alternative at the moronic sweeping design, it would have made more sens.

I spend some times on bumble, and on the dozens of first messages I get, I NEVER had anything better than a variation of "Hi, how are you?". So, as a dude, if you have to be the one carrying the conversation, it's just way more efficient to do it on Tinder.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-05-07T16:53:11+00:00

For OLD the majority of paying customers are men. Overwhelmingly. A lot less are willing to pay if the “buying premium will give you a better chance” which “But she has to message first” kinda throws a wrench into

So less of the target market pays.

BiffTannenCA · 2024-05-07T18:07:09+00:00

Men are probably getting sick of women demanding men out of their league, and quitting these apps because of it.

ppvremsleep · 2024-05-07T16:52:35+00:00

Stupidest gimmick ever, owned by a woman with feminist angle for free promotion. The only good thing about girls messaging first if she said anything other than Hey, you know she would hook up on a date.

Wattehfok · 2024-05-07T16:53:32+00:00

Bumble is hardly unique in its stock price tanking.

Dating apps are all propped up with VC money.

Hell - most of Silicon Valley is.

hydro908 · 2024-05-07T17:06:33+00:00

Hinge is just better in every way

gusGus2222_ · 2024-05-07T21:09:06+00:00

Because women are lazy daters. They like it more when men have to reach out to them.

They don’t want to out in the work to come up with a creative message and risk rejection if the guy ignores her.

They prefer the shitty parts of dating be left to the men. So they can relax and enjoy. Who cares what the men want.

InkAddict718 · 2024-05-07T18:13:35+00:00

Because women loathe messaging first unless it’s the most attractive men. They claim to hate message saying “hey” or something similar, yet that’s exactly what they were doing on Bumble. Lazy and entitled. And nearly destroyed the platform until Bumble caved and allowed men to message first

Scarce12 · 2024-05-07T23:42:40+00:00

It's curious that women don't want to put their best foot forward using their grasp of language - but instead, that's a man's job.

basedgawd3 · 2024-05-08T00:40:58+00:00

Said it years before, bumble was the worst app bc it was run by women and depended on women to make it functional. Surprise surprise, that leads to a failing business model.and basically changing the only thing that made the silly app different from the rest 😂

Tuatara77 · 2024-05-08T04:44:33+00:00

I'm just happy they're losing out on money, I highly dislike all dating apps as I see them as just profit hungry companies benefiting on desperate guys, the apps are not good for your self image as an average, or below average guy.

hydro908 · 2024-05-07T17:07:56+00:00

Women won’t message first because there all toxic and want a man to chase them so they can have power over them in the relationship

Safe_Community2981 · 2024-05-07T20:48:23+00:00

Why did Bumble’s “women first” approach fail

Because women are fragile and rejection stings.

Lots of people are going to write lots of words to camouflage this simple truth but here it is in plain fuckin' English. Women are too emotionally weak to handle getting a cold-approach rejected.

NaviaMain · 2024-05-07T21:06:39+00:00

Apps are nothing more than penis menus for women. You men should have some common sense and respect and get out of this shit.

RIPGeorgeHarrison · 2024-05-07T21:13:05+00:00

I actually liked this feature of the app as a guy and bumble is by far my best app. I think it's because women messaging first is sort of a second round of filtering out people that aren't that interested in me. I'm also not sure who everyone here is swiping on, because for me it's about a 50% chance if I get "hey" or something unique more unique (at least asking about my day). Another thing I've noticed is I'm not alone in it being my best app, but a lot of other people say it's their worst by far, with Tinder and Hinge being better, despite bumble in a few ways occupying a middle ground between both of those in terms of how people use them.

Overall I think this is a bad move for the app. Moving more towards a free for all is I think going to just make it no different from any other app, so you might as well just use Tinder and get more swipes in a day, and not have to worry about the time limit. Or use Hinge if you want more options serious about the long term. The only reason it might still have an advantage for some people over those other two is that it's not owned by Match group so if find yourself banned from one match group app, it's your only major option left Match group will ban you from the rest of their apps.

Horned-Beast · 2024-05-08T00:14:51+00:00

It's just not Bumble. All the apps are finding men are not signing up anymore except the guys looking for hookups.

There are multiple articles complaining of men completely avoiding match maker events, dating apps and even attendance to clubs is significant enough to be noticed.

The only men still attending are the guys only looking for quick one night stands.

Decent_Plastic_ · 2024-05-09T13:37:49+00:00

Not a single Gen Z person I know is finding their love/girlfriend/wife on dating apps now... everyone is literally meeting irl through parties or get togethers or friend groups or social circles or church or hobbies or even just in day to day places like farmer markets & chill laid back environments, the quality of women on them is abysmal, not to mention it was already only 25% of women on there to 75% men & most women are inactive/don't really bother to use it much... 90%+ of men rarely even get responses and its turned men into passive consumers, passive docile afraid scaredy cats instead of healthy real men... most of the women active on them are used goods & every women doesn't give a **** about you if they don't know you/know of you in real life, the rest on them all find a boyfriend or husband RELATIVELY quickly & so they won't be on the dating app any longer. Social circles & natural organic genuine interaction men get all of the love nowadays in 2024, Gen Z is burnt out from screens & online dating... its dying, and will likely be even more dead in the future when it becomes the "uncool" ugly or disgusting way to meet people again.

What kind of man wants to put in effort into apps that train women to be attention whores in the first place like OLD, Instagram, Snapchat etc? How can you compete with 100 to 200 men fighting for her digital attention span? Its a stupid game.

But as the old Reddit adage goes, play stupid games win stupid prizes, if men want to waste their lives chasing lower quality women on dating apps go ahead.

Financial_Leave4411 · 2024-05-07T17:07:50+00:00

I think the bigger issue is that women are just less interested in dating men. It seems like all dating apps not just bumble are going to start losing a lot of money. The only reason the other dating apps are doing remotely well right now is because they opened up more expensive tiers were men could pay like $300-500 to bypass the liking/matching system and send a woman a message. Once women start ignoring their messages, men are going to stop paying for those premium services and as such those dating sites are going to go down to.

I’m not sure what dating apps can do to fix that. It’s more of a disconnect between what men want and what women want. While women are willing to give men what they want men will not give women what they want so women are giving up on men and choosing to stay single. No dating app can fix that.

AngeCruelle · 2024-05-07T17:33:41+00:00

It failed because straight women are not as interested in OLD or perhaps even dating in general as straight men are and there are no creative gimmicks that will change that.

Here's your annual reminder that the most popular dating app is still about 75% male. And it used to be worse than that.

AloneOnTheStrange · 2024-05-07T22:41:59+00:00

I had a pretty good experience on Bumble at first. Got a lot of matches, good conversations, a few nice dates. Girls seemed to like that it gave them more security and control. But then, after returning to it, they'd changed some things.

You would get way less free swipes. Sometimes I'd swipe on like four women, and it would run out.

It kept giving bullshit notifications, to make you think you had a match or message.

It kept pushing the paid version more and more aggressively.

It went from being a fun source of flirting and dates, to a frustrating grind with the intention of gouging more money from you. I gave up after not too much time.

Sounds like people wised up and stopped using it because aggressive monetisation made the experience shit.

one_time_animal · 2024-05-08T02:39:27+00:00

I've always assumed that the worst app for women must be bumble because who are they going to message? Giga alpha Chad. No app would be more efficient at pushing women to Chad than one that makes them message first

Sorprenda · 2024-05-08T03:24:18+00:00

Did the "women's first" actually approach fail, or this more of a problem with the business model? I honestly don't know.

Being a public company, they need growth, and the majority of their users and revenue come from men. It's hard to make any conclusion about women's preference. Women might love making the first move for all we know, but if men aren't finding success the app isn't going to be profitable.

Maybe this is the actual definition of what makes a good dating app - something which men are willing to pay for, vs one which is actually affective as it pertains to dating.

Patrickstarho · 2024-05-08T03:31:42+00:00

bumble should just scrap its dating app and get into the sex robot business

Ok-Dust-4156 · 2024-05-08T05:32:22+00:00

I expect women there to complain about how unoriginal first messages from men are.

hostility_kitty · 2024-05-08T06:28:25+00:00

I reconnected with my husband on Bumble. He said I was one of the 2 women who sent him a message 😂

lvoncreek · 2024-05-08T12:26:47+00:00

Dating apps are dead anyway

Dipshit392 · 2024-05-09T13:27:14+00:00

That still doesnt change the fact that i willl still be passed over and get zero messages. Bumble and all the rest of the dating groups that Match Group bought out can still fuck off.

Wonder why dating apps suck ass? Because Match group owns and have monetized them all.

Love doesnt exist in America and you cannot convince me otherwise.

blkforboding · 2024-05-12T21:04:22+00:00

Women do make the first move. You have to be a supermodel for that to happen. I remember making a fake tinder account.I purposely picked the fakest looking guy. I got 500 matches and 200 messages in a week. Since that day, I see women differently.

G4g3_k9 · 2024-05-07T17:46:35+00:00

i was looking into getting bumble but now that’s not happening, i have no idea how to message anyone first, or really talk to someone i don’t know in general

RelativeYak7 · 2024-05-07T20:33:52+00:00

Solution for dating apps: escrow! Each party puts up $5 or $10 and if you show up and anyone has lied then you tell the app and the liar loses the small amount of money. All the 5'10" men lying about being 6' and women using 10 year old photos?! This would help solve that issue.

Whoreasaurus_Rex · 2024-05-07T21:54:30+00:00

Well, fuck. So much for Bumble. Now it’ll be just as unusable as Tinder.

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Lilrip1998 · 2024-05-07T20:05:33+00:00

Tbh when I was single I found the selection on Bumble pretty thin. Just legit not as many dudes on there lol.

Southern_Fall983 · 2024-05-08T00:09:06+00:00

Who cares

C_Cherry2212 · 2024-05-08T01:00:28+00:00

I only used to use Bumble to seek women, so as a woman I just used the app as it is. It wasn’t UNTIL a man matched me and I got a “reminder: men can’t message first” I noticed only I could start the conversation. It’s not well-marketed in my country because out of years of knowing about the app I didn’t know until like 2 months ago?

EvilTribble · 2024-05-08T02:23:20+00:00

These companies are discovering that you can't turn a tire kicker into a serious buyer.

ChicktoGo · 2024-05-08T05:05:35+00:00

Swipping like playing ninja fruit and wondering why she doesn't received any chat from a men. Hihihi

prairieboy1996 · 2024-05-08T06:11:26+00:00

Technically, Men were always able to message first on bumble, depending on their preferences in dating

jedi1josh · 2024-05-08T11:38:11+00:00

I'm in a relationship now (I'm actually engaged) but when I was single I used dating apps and I can honestly say I had the least amount of success on Bumble than any other app. Bumble had many flaws that worked against itself. For starters the women messaging first seems like a good way to filter out unwanted inappropriate messages, but unless the women who speak first actually have something to say other than "Hi" and then ignore any response, then conversations aren't going to happen. I honestly think the reason women did this was it was a way to earmark a man for later use if needed while focusing on other men they're more interested in. I think Bumble can keep the women messaging first rule active and instead implement another rule saying that women have to respond to any conversations they begin within 24 hours, or the conversation is deleted and the man is automatically unmatched. This will make earmarking men a useless action and prevent them from exploiting a rule that actually is beneficial to women. While we're at it this could be a rule for all dating apps. Relationships don't happen without a conversation first, and if it's like pulling teeth to have a conversation with anyone regardless of gender, then maybe the system should not only automatically unmatch the pair, but also flag the unresponsive person as "unsociable" if it's a repeat problem, and they get branded as such on their profile to warn others that this particular person may not engage with you. By the way if you're one of those people who try to argue that not everyone has time to talk, then I ask you how do you plan to have time to date, or even have a relationship? Joining a dating app and claiming you don't have time to date is like joining a book club and saying you don't have time to read. You're just wasting everyone's time.

dericlima · 2024-05-08T12:27:35+00:00

I started using Bumble a few months ago(free version) and I can confirm that women don't want to make the first move. 90% of the profiles I see put their instagram in the bio, so you can make the first move there. This whole woman's empowerment sounds good in theory but in practice it is different....

Cethlinnstooth · 2024-05-08T14:40:44+00:00

Did the woman first approach really fail?

Bumble achieved a degree of public awareness of its existence and stuck around making ok money through a period of time when numerous other attempts at launching dating apps failed totally and we don't even remember their names. It was obviously doing something more "right" for itself and those with some sort of stake in it during that era than those other apps.

I argue that the woman first approach was a good move at the time and profitable and many men here have paid Bumble regularly for various additional features.

There's probably a bunch of people who have nice houses, full retirement funds, a bunch of investments and kids who were educated at private schools because they were involved with Bumble when it started up. A failure? Even if it loses profitability now and shuts down completely it's definitely been a success.

And now the entire market is different, the customer base has developed some more opinions and a lot of women no longer use dating apps at all...and Bumble has slightly changed what it's doing to try to stay profitable as one would expect. Is this change more or less "right" than what Tinder is doing or has done in the past? Is it the best possible choice they can make for now? I've no idea.

Things don't tend to last forever in business. Even the East India Company eventually shut down.

Dagenius1 · 2024-05-08T17:27:28+00:00

Bumbles premise as an initial strategy to differentiate from other apps was very smart to start and build their brand. It made the CEO a billionaire.

That being said, long term it was never going to last. Women were never going to pursue or approach men en masse. Sure I know some ladies who regularly approach when they are interested but they are a small minority.

This does underscore my long held stance that I never ever want to hear women’s opinion on male dating rejection. The amount of dating rejection a decent or handsome man goes through can’t be understood by even below average women

Long-Manufacturer990 · 2024-05-08T23:22:39+00:00

The only thing worst than men messeging first on dating apps would be men AND bears messaging wichever woman they liked.

obviouslymoose · 2024-05-09T10:48:46+00:00

Or just honestly I’m busy and don’t pay attention so it was a lot of pressure keeping up when we finally matched

empireofadhd · 2024-05-19T23:01:28+00:00

I think the bumble thing was a very “millennial women” dating app. Millennials are mostly coupled up now or have given up. The next generation is a lot more conservative when it comes to love life.

KayRay1994 · 2024-05-07T19:11:27+00:00

More often than not, women who use the apps more often than not want to be entertained. Of course, far less women use these apps than men do and usually most of the women who do either do so for validation, a hookup or to be entertained. Some certainly use it for legitimate dating, but that’s not the majority of women on the apps.

As such, because many women who use the apps have the “entertain me” approach, they think they don’t have to put much work into it outside of just being hot.

To add to this, women are generally far less comfortable approaching and would rather stay silent than approach themselves. Of course, more women should approach if they like the guy - but that’s kinda another part of it, apps hardly tell you anything about a person and women generally need more than just looks to develop interest (assuming you’re passable, that is), in other words, for a woman to show “app interest” his profile either has to be top notch or he has to be really hot. Kinda goes back to the classic how dating apps aren’t compatible with how most women feel attraction.

Toxic_LigmaMale · 2024-05-07T21:23:36+00:00

Bumble was ridiculous to try to match on. So many profiles said “I don't message first”, and I'm just flabbergasted.

Clear-Ad3193 · 2024-05-08T11:59:38+00:00

Well obviously woman love that rush of dopamine when desperate simps are begging for their attention

Slow_Frame_515 · 2024-05-08T14:22:01+00:00

Bumbles problem is the same problem all other dating apps have. All the women only want a small percentage of the most attractive men and ideally want the men they consider ugly (which is nearly all of them) to not even see their profile. The creator of bumble who is a feminist realized that hypergamy is real and women do behave like a monolith on dating apps.

rivertorain- · 2024-05-08T14:55:38+00:00

Why did Bumble’s “women first” approach fail

How do we know it failed? Had they tested men being able to message before now?

TheYoungFaithful · 2024-05-07T19:55:52+00:00

Honestly it’s mainly because women are seen as desperate when they approach. People view it as you not being attractive enough to get guys to approach you so you have to do the approaching yourself. I’m sure there’s places where it’s the norm, but where I live people see you as easy, masculine and desperate when they learn that you approached your boyfriend, especially if you come from a very traditional culture where the guy does all the approaches even after marriage (not that I’d take it that far, I think after the first approach it’s more fair if the woman takes more initiative).

Choice-Substance-183 · 2024-05-07T16:59:14+00:00

Did it fail? Or has dating apps changed since Bumble first started TEN YEARS ago.

Seems like a whole new generation is using it and doesn't need to follow the same rules it did 10 years ago.

GameKyuubi · 2024-05-07T19:36:38+00:00

Well that sucks. The concept worked pretty well in my experience.

claratheresa · 2024-05-08T03:05:15+00:00

LET

THE

MARKET

DECIDE

many startups founded by men, especially in the tech sector, fail long before their IPOs and many more thereafter, and many of these failures were started by men. Bumble has been around for over a decade in a competitive space and has benefited successful.

If it is no longer meeting the needs of the new generation it must adapt or die. Capitalism without failure is like religion without sin.

womandatory · 2024-05-08T10:43:25+00:00

It failed because the men who are attracted to the idea of not having to make the first move are inherently lazy. When I tried dating on the apps years ago, I found all the men I interacted with on Bumble were passive and lazy. 90% of men I encountered on dating apps couldn’t string a sentence together, but on Bumble it was 100%.

I don’t think there’s a way to design an app that does what you propose. The best protection for women is knowledge, and there are plenty of ways we share that.

Title	Men can now message first on Bumble
Author	Particular_Trade6308
Upvotes	162
Comments	477
Date	May 7, 2024 4:44 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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