JDBF (Just Don’t Be Fat)

Ok-Supermarket-6747 · 2023-10-24T04:12:35+00:00

Immediately this just makes me feel like people are looking for the least amount of effort they can put in, like being the lowest-effort partner is some kind of achievement to be proud of instead of meeting the energy

I honestly believe men do have more standards than that but a lot of them are willing to settle with less than ideal situations. Some of it may be their own lack of improvement and some of it may be bad luck...but sometimes they seem to imply that it is the dating market itself

Obviously willful neglect does not apply to people with medical conditions who gain weight, which is honest to god a real thing. However, if you are avoiding doctors, over-eating and under-exercising then you are neglecting yourself. No one really wants a partner neglecting themselves and they will question how well you could meet their needs if you can’t even meet your own.

It sounds like you might want to look into medical disorders or conditions which could cause this (thyroid issues etc)

leosandlattes · 2023-10-24T03:18:24+00:00

As a former fat woman, JDBF is true to some extent. I mean yes you see that there are some fat women with conventionally attractive men, but those are the exception, not the rule.

For context I’m 5’2” and used to weigh like 200ish pounds. I was a size 14 at age 21.

The people who don’t experience what it’s like to be fat have no concept of social invisibility, especially to the opposite sex. Well, ugly people also understand. But the point is that for most of the opposite sex, you’re excluded from the “date-ability” range.

I honestly can’t even remember what kick started it. (But I was definitely red pilled shortly after LOL). But in my early 20s I decided waiting for some dude to “love me for me” was never going to happen. I’m now a size 6 and 135 pounds. I’m not “skinny” and it’s not like I got magically hot after losing weight (since there is more to attractiveness than just weight), but I wasn’t fat anymore either, and let me tell you it will OPEN up dating for you.

I mean you still have to be a nice person and be pleasant. Personality matters. Men won’t continue seeing you if you have a bad attitude and are, for lack of a better word, very bitchy. But not being fat removes a very large barrier to men seeing you as attractive.

Zabadoodude · 2023-10-24T02:24:39+00:00

Fat men will date fat women.

ComfortableJeans · 2023-10-24T08:41:22+00:00

To be fair, nobody wants fat men either, really.

Being fat is a major hindrance to the lives of everyone. No one wants to date you, you feel shitty all the time, you look bad, and EVERYONE thinks less of you when you look bad.

It's fucked, but you're quite literally seen as less human when you're over weight. Less worthy.

On the bright side, though, it's one of life's most easily solved big problems. Not to say that it's easy, but the solution is pretty straightforward on comparison to other major issues.

szclimber · 2023-10-24T04:14:43+00:00

I agree with the sentiment. People will often point out exceptions but it is still true as a general rule. How old are you?

thedeadpill · 2023-10-24T04:29:17+00:00

I think you'll get different opinions about JDBF. Some men are okay with it, others not. However, fat people (not just women) get treated worse on average than thin or athletic people. That much is beyond dispute; there is research that shows that people are much more likely to associate fat people with descriptors like lazy, unmotivated, poor self-control than they would thin or athletic people.

In spite of that, I don't think JDBF is the answer: I know fat women who do just fine. I've seen morbidly obese women secure partners until they died, and I have known thin women who can't get a steady relationship because they're insufferable people.

As a formerly fat and now moderately athletic man, (I realize there could be a gender divide, here, so take with salt), I got a lot more attention once I lost weight, and then even more once I was more muscular. From my own point of view, I think that losing weight rarely hurts fat people, and that they may find that there are benefits to living a disciplined lifestyle beyond dating.

Is JDBF singular answer to your dating woes? Almost certainly not. Would following JDBF help? It's quite likely it could.

BaiKingu · 2023-10-24T05:31:36+00:00

I mean in general yeah, but keep in context, a fat woman still has more dating options than the vast majority of men so, whatever you wanna do.

AdhesivenessLevel379 · 2023-10-24T10:04:43+00:00

There’s a guy in our group who was morbidly obese and then lost some weight - he was still very overweight however.

He started talking about how he’d love to date a skinny gym girl and when one of his friends said “going to have to lose some more weight then mate” he lost his shit.

Idk what it is about former fat guys - but I know a few women who’ve been treated awfully by them. It’s like once they lose weight and get more attention from women they develop some sort of kill the cheerleader syndrome.

No-Rough-7390 · 2023-10-24T09:32:25+00:00

There’s another factor here too. If a woman is fat when you meet her, the likelihood of pregnancy sending the issue into irreversible hyperactive overdrive increases significantly.

Barneysparky · 2023-10-24T02:24:42+00:00

In the early 80's there was a study done on obesity in women and molestation. No, I can't look it up online, I just remember reading it in the paper and perhaps a news special 20/20?

I believe the numbers were obese women were 5 times more likely to have been molested as a kid. At the time it was explained that obese women hid behind themselves to not get attention.

That kinda stuck with me, and it's left me wondering if the skyrocketing rates since then are all about processed food and huge portions or a mix of that and trauma from living in a constantly sexualized society that also sees sex as bad.

Food for thought anyways.

Stergeary · 2023-10-24T07:07:32+00:00

It's complicated, but there is a kernel of truth. In general, more men will find you attractive at lower weight than at higher weight. And if an argument about gender gets heated it is a really easy zinger to just say, "JDBF" to women because it is kinda technically true -- If you're not fat, almost every girl is attractive from age 18 onward until they get older; as in just by not being fat most girls will be 5/10 or above.

But "JDBF" is missing so much nuance. So many things influence the weight that someone ends up at and it all gets swept under the rug by this one phrase. Metabolism, genetics, family, friends, geographic location, upbringing, culture, school, agriculture, food technology, access to healthy/unhealthy foods, emotional issues, medical conditions, etc. So while it is true that if you just stopped eating, it's impossible to stay fat, the factors going into it are so numerous that it makes no sense to saddle an individual with all of responsibility for their weight.

But on the other hand, you are responsible for it, because you are actually the person who has the duty of keeping your body healthy, and at the end of the day the buck stops with you for taking care of your health. But treating it as a "weight problem" is itself a problem, because it's a symptom. The question is why are you maintaining such a high body fat percentage -- Find that out and address that problem instead, and find value in yourself regardless of what weight you are.

GlamSunCrybabyMoon · 2023-10-24T04:41:24+00:00

A fat woman will be okay as long as she’s the right kind of fat. As long as your belly isn’t bigger than your butt and you have wide hips, I think you’ll be okay. Now who you attract is a whole different story.

mike-sonko · 2023-10-24T02:23:24+00:00

Sorry to hear about your struggles.

Some questions:

Have you tried to lose weight and if so, what have you tried?
Where are you meeting men with this JDBF attitude? If online, then yes your results will be dismal. In person can be more promising.
When you say fat, what do you mean? I think guys might be more lenient to curvier women vs obese.
What type of guy are you looking for?

ktdotnova · 2023-10-24T03:06:56+00:00

I feel that 75% of women's dating problems would be solved if they weren't fat. How hard it is not to be fat when men literally make it crystal clear this is a criteria that's important to them? A criteria (not counting medical disorders or disabilities) that you can accomplish?

Big-Stuff3435 · 2023-10-24T09:00:28+00:00

Yes it's literally just that. Don't be fat and you can get guys. Women have it easy.

basedmama21 · 2023-10-24T13:27:44+00:00

DO NOT TAKE OZEMPIC. Once you stop, you will not only gain the weight back…you’ll gain more. What habits are you going to learn on Ozempic that will help you keep the weight off for life? Are you going to learn the discipline of going to the gym and nutrition? No, you’re going to take a shortcut…and then you’re gonna gain weight back eventually because you’re not gonna stay on that prescription for the rest of your entire life. Let’s be real.

CICO is overrated and sometimes dangerous. I lost 50 pounds after having a baby without counting any calories. And I had actually become insulin resistant during pregnancy, so breastfeeding and time were not going to help me lose weight like most moms.

If you have been struggling your whole life, what have you tried? Have you tried a weight lifting program (you will not get bulky) 4 days a week with a goal of getting 5k steps per day? And high protein meals?

redditmcx · 2023-10-24T15:18:57+00:00

Skinny men will be less attractive to women that in shape men. Short guy will be less attractive than tall guys. Ugly faced people will be less attractive than handsome or beautiful people. Physical appearance matters for sexual attraction. We all know this. It’s in our nature to prefer it. Being angry about someone’s preference is like telling them it’s wrong to prefer delicious food Vs bland food. The question I always have though is this - for most of these things people can’t really do much to change their appearance. Guys can work out but no one can make their face much better and you can’t get taller. But men and women CAN lose weight. (With the exception that you are on some heavy medication and it’s a side effect) If a person simply takes in less calories (and even better … exercises a bit) , they can slim down a lot. There’s just no question about that.

So it always seems like the trade off is really : do I want the misery of being hungry with the benefit of being sexually desirable, or do I want to be able to eat whatever and not get much attention

I’ve seen women with beautiful faces that just are so overweight and to me I think wow there’s a lot of potential there. But obviously something in their appetite or relationship with food must be difficult to change because I’m sure they know it too. But I’ve always been perplexed.

Maybe someone who is overweight and knows (at least suspects hypothetically) that they could be the object of more attention if they slimmed down could answer this question: why don’t you just do it? (restrict calories) Is it too uncomfortable? Is it an addiction? Do you rationalize and assume it’s impossible ? Do you just love food too much? I’m really curious.

Kosilica457 · 2023-10-24T17:52:19+00:00

Women expect us short men to just fucking grow to 6ft somehow so you reall should just try to have enough discipline to lose that extra weight, you will feel better and also have a much MUCH easier time dating. Atleast, unlike most undesirable men, you have the means with which you can make yourself desirable.

neostoic · 2023-10-24T18:16:57+00:00

Unwanted weight loss advice incoming:

As someone who's currently weight cutting, and have struggled with weight in the past to some extent, I have some sympathy for you. In my experience while CICO works just fine as a principle and practice, for an average person with average responsibilities, sustained weight loss is nigh impossible. An average person just does not have the mental space\discipline or time for that.

Still it's best to view weight cutting as a skill. You're gonna start absolutely failing at it, probably fail a few goals, but eventually you'll get better if you're persistent enough. Feel free to PM me if you need some practical advice.

Curious_Attention719 · 2023-10-24T02:25:59+00:00

What standard of fat are we talking about? The media portrayed anything other than being anorexic or shredded as fat. If you're 5'4", 160, have it mostly on your boobs, butt, thighs, and some slight softness to the stomach, that's sexy, even though you're overweight. Lizzo or the girl from Willy Wonka after eating the blueberry? No. If you're 5'4", 200, and look like Mike the plumber with a huge gut, no hourglass definition, then that's not sexy.

ComfortableOk5003 · 2023-10-24T02:22:58+00:00

It doesn’t say anything about be thin. It says don’t be fat.

If you’re only 20…you’re doing something wrong if you can’t lose weight

Safinated · 2023-10-24T03:06:37+00:00

Fat men and women still get laid, date, and married. And not always by fat people

MxMaster9907 · 2023-10-24T03:26:07+00:00

I mean, just don’t be fat

Terrible_Lift · 2023-10-24T05:23:21+00:00

There’s a lot that just comes into this question of “why” when I see a woman who could be really attractive otherwise.

I spend an hour a day in my home gym (in my 30’s) training hard and being very conscious of my appearance and retaining youthfulness and functionality in all forms.

It doesn’t make sense to me why someone can’t do half of what I do and just start dropping pounds slowly. Especially with all the free good info out there.

As bad as it may sound, it’s almost like seeing wasted potential. There’s a lot of girls who could make it a point to take off 30-40lb over the course of a year and look stunning. I don’t personally understand it, so I have to agree that any fit man kind of thinks JDBF in a sense.

Fusiontron · 2023-10-24T03:35:55+00:00

I can still find overweight women attractive if it's well distributed, but that is based on genetics. If you don't have those genes, then you may want to consider not being fat, but some men will still go for you. Men also tend to care about face a lot less than women.

There's a lot more to it than JDBF, though. Guys here really understand a woman's job and education in dating success.

Robitaille21 · 2023-10-24T04:18:40+00:00

Not much to add, but there is something to not giving up! My wife was 300lbs. when we first got together. Think a Mary Lambert type with a Venus of Wallendorf body. She lost a lot of weight when she went through some health issues years ago, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the 300lbs. version of her. Cats here say "fat", I say "Built to f**k HARD!" Also, careful what you wish for. My wife wanted a relationship for years before we got together. Now, for 25 years, she's had to put up with some of my less than admirably personality traits (see my post history).

obviousredflag · 2023-10-24T10:30:18+00:00

No, of course not. Just not being fat is not the only thing that counts. But it is a non-negotiable for anyone who isn't fat themselves. Depending on the population you are part of, being fat is the standard and as most people are in relationships, they are so with other fat people.

So what is it you are about? Do you want a slim, attractive man? Then don't be fat as a bare minimum. On top of that, you need to have other characteristics that make you as desirable as the man you want to attract.

People who are unsuccessful tend to blame it all onto ONE thing that they have no control over, or have failed often enough with changing it, so that it appears unchangeable. It's just the top of the iceberg. "Playing the <X> card" is what it's called. Substitute X for race, sex, gender, sexual orientation, social status, income, body height, body weight, cultural background, religious, political views, etc.

No, it's not X that keeps you from getting what you want. X is the scapegoat that lets people keep doing what they do and blame something else than themselves.

SecondEldenLord · 2023-10-25T07:27:58+00:00

This is literally rhe lowest amount of effort a woman can put in herself and for some reason she still has a problem with it mainly because women are used to get everything nowadays with 0 effort, like children.

MoreSanitizerPls · 2023-10-24T02:26:29+00:00

JDBF is a lie. I’m not fat. I’m heathy weight; still when I’m out at a social event I’ll see men approach better looking women and none will approach me.

I’ve gone out of my way to ask men out and I’ve gotten rejected every time.

And I’m not approaching “Chads”. I’ve approached average, ever below average men.

his_purple_majesty · 2023-10-24T03:38:34+00:00

but is JDBF the answer to every single fat woman’s dating troubles?

Pretty much. It should be pretty obvious that most men are not attracted to fat women.

Ok_Smile_60 · 2023-10-24T03:39:58+00:00

Yup. For me too. It’s a huge difference in everything, but just dating. Everyone will treat you better, and you’ll feel better.

So really, just don’t be fat

melindabrown2023 · 2023-10-24T05:40:07+00:00

To be fair, not being fat doesn't automatically solve a woman's dating problems. I know plenty of women who are single, or who can't find a man that meets their standards and they are all thin. Fat women are not the only ones who struggle in dating

EastSideSlasha · 2023-10-24T03:06:57+00:00

Being fat is just one of the easiest controllable things, so it’s like a huge turn off if you don’t get that fixed for starters

Tauralus · 2023-10-24T05:03:37+00:00

Most guys who say "just don't be fat" are also leaving out a shit ton of other hidden criteria that they have. Men's dating standards are just as ridiculous as womens.

And the whole idea of what is fat and what is not seems to vary widely from person to person. Women should have a bit of a tummy. It's healthy for them to. I see women get called fat these days who are perfectly proportioned they just don't have a gym body.

IronDBZ · 2023-10-24T02:21:46+00:00

Being overweight doesn't block you from dating.

There are men that will date, love and cherish you. Attractive ones at that.

Just because you've internalized a self-denying maxim doesn't mean it's actually true.

If the men you've spoken to want nothing to do with you, you're speaking to the wrong men.

There is almost assuredly someone somewhere for you, the real question is if you would like them enough to give them a chance, stay with them, not jump ship as soon as you stop feeling like garbage?

Those are the real questions because you'll start healing the moment you realize you're not actually as doomed as you think you are.

TenaciousVillain · 2023-10-24T03:21:40+00:00

Everyone is entitled to their preferences. I sure as hell have my own and I have a thing about telling people to "lower their standards." (Don't because it's none of your damn business.)

I do have a question for you. You said your life would be so much better if you were thin. (I'd replace thin with healthy, but I don't disagree.) But is it to gain one of these JDBF bros? What happens when you gain weight as actually most women do at some point in their life, especially if they have children and as their hormones change. You'd want to be with a JDBF bro who prioritizes your physique over any and everything else about you? Because let's face it, if that is their one requirement, of all the things that could be - it's certainly pretty high on the value list.

KlingKlangKing · 2023-10-24T06:53:58+00:00

It's true. Women, if you want to be beautiful, you have no excuses if you are overweight.

Ok_Cantaloupe2159 · 2023-10-24T11:27:06+00:00

If you are fat, male or female, you should be ashamed of yourself. Drop that bags of chips and go the gym! Nobody wants to date an elephant.

Ill-Secretary-2297 · 2023-10-24T03:14:29+00:00

Chubby is cool. Obese, rotund. Pushing up to like 170 +. Nah

throwaway164_3 · 2023-10-24T04:52:05+00:00

JDBF is great advice.

Fat women are like short men in terms of attractiveness to the opposite sex.

Trouvette · 2023-10-24T06:19:08+00:00

Bariatric surgery changed my life, OP. I don’t think I would be in a relationship right now if I didn’t do it, and for more reasons than JDBF. Have you looked into it?

New_Awareness_ · 2023-10-24T06:33:47+00:00

Nah fr and people love crying about fat people like dawg Fuck fat people Am I misunderstanding something??

fvckit88 · 2023-10-24T15:41:26+00:00

Some people like fat women but your dating pool will increase immensely if you lose weight. Personally, I don’t mind some curves but if her body doesn’t look good I’m just not attracted to her 🤷.

It will probably be one of the hardest things you’ll do in your life but trust me it’s worth it. I can’t say I was ever overweight but I’ve had my own addictions that took a lot of self discipline to overcome. I say addiction, because often times being overweight is an addiction. An addiction to eating unhealthy food, overeating, and to not being active enough. You can do it but it takes a lot of discipline and a long time. You gotta figure out what motivates you and then use that to stick with it.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2023-10-24T02:21:29+00:00

The men that complain about and ridicule women for being fat are disproportinately men that women do not want and are retaliating for being rejected.

Men that have figured out how to consistently have the sex/relationships they want may prefer skinny women, but don't get salty and bash fat women.

There's a major difference between fat women with flat asses and fat women with big asses in terms of how attractive men find them

Gold_Supermarket1956 · 2023-10-24T05:02:04+00:00

You know you can make excuses all you like, but weight loss is about self control... So unless you have a rare thyroid issue you can lose weight

George69143 · 2023-10-24T05:21:50+00:00

Great advice for women. For men it doesn’t matter if you’re fit or fat if you’re not tall and/or handsome

Specialist-Action-33 · 2023-10-24T06:30:39+00:00

JDBF in 2023 only applies to men. Say that to a woman and you will be ridiculed as fatphobic and fat shaming, when you're only trying to give constructive advice.

96tillinfinity___ · 2023-10-24T18:13:06+00:00

Used to be. Not anymore

I see decent shaped guys and skinny guys with chubby/fat girlfriends way more than the opposite

We’re at a point now where guys dont even care if shes fat because, well, most women are fat and even they have options (sexual mostly)

The guys with options can say “Just dont be fat”

nectarinepiss · 2023-10-24T03:16:36+00:00

ppd struggles to realize that genetics and metabolism play into weight greatly and not everyone can “just be thin” ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥 wishing you the best this sub is a cesspool of sad men circlejerking sometimes

Liqhthouse · 2023-10-24T05:57:05+00:00

I'll put it this way....

Would you rather just not be fat... Or..

Have to not be fat in addition to being extremely athletic, be a provider, charming, have comedic ability, social status, high income, impeccable fashion sense, established online presence, mental strength, leadership attitude and confidence.

Take your pick because the above paragraph is almost everything men have to do.

If you can't even do the simple favour of being a healthy weight (not even asking for peak fitness) then you are being delusional and also unfair to men that actually put in the effort.

elitelocalpro · 2023-10-24T02:32:11+00:00

Literally don’t be fat and have a low body count and all women would find a good guy

Feminism ruined women and sold them a bill of goods they can’t cash in.

Electronic_West_1831 · 2023-10-24T06:25:57+00:00

Overweight women can still be very attractive, and many men will date them

ARatOnPC · 2023-10-24T04:38:08+00:00

It’s easy to lose weight. Just track your calories and eat below your maintenance. You don’t even have to exercise although you should for overall bone, muscle and heart health.

Lower-Conflict5394 · 2023-10-24T10:08:24+00:00

Most people are overweight in certain countries based on BMI and the majority are not gymbros who have 20lbs of muscle so yes.

Generally, as long as your BMI is 25/30, you can compensate for most of the shift off by simply hanging out with people with a BMI similar to yours and having a good personality (not nice guys but being Sociable and fun)

When you exceed 30 is when things start to be a huge turn off for men or women, even more so the younger you are.

Aromatic_Ad5473 · 2023-10-24T11:13:14+00:00

Look around you. A lot of fat women are in happy relationships

Warm_Gur8832 · 2023-10-24T05:12:23+00:00

There’s plenty of men into fat women. Some even prefer it.

That being said, you’re more likely to find effeminate sorts within the bunch than a more petite woman would.

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TheRealMichaelBluth · 2023-10-24T04:26:49+00:00

If we’re talking long term relationship, you of course need to be pleasant around. Physical attraction wise, id say a fat woman is the one trait I don’t think I could be physically attracted to. I’m not expecting my next partner to look like a model, but I think someone in decent shape isn’t an unreasonable standard to ask for. Fortunately for you, weight is something you have some control over.

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2023-10-24T06:10:39+00:00

I’m fat I have a none fat husband I have never struggled dating

NonTakenNameThatIUse · 2023-10-24T06:19:16+00:00

Two questions:

Is your face cute?

If the answer to this is yes, you're at least 1 or 2 points better looking than you think.

Are you morbidly obese or just fat?

If you're morbidly obese, forget men until you're at least close to a healthy weight. Not because "nobody wants you" but for your own good.

If you're just fat, work on making a consistent workout schedule. You'll reach your goal eventually as long as you stick to it.

All you really need is an hourglass figure to drive most men wild, you don't need to be thin like the redpill claims. Unless you specifically want "chads".

WanabeInflatable · 2023-10-24T06:52:49+00:00

Actually, there are guys that are into chubby girls and outright fat admirers. Yet of course, some of them are weirdos and even dangerous.

Did you meet any guys that are into your current looks?

lostacoshermanos · 2023-10-24T07:12:23+00:00

Women will put up with fat if he’s rich

MacaronFinancial · 2023-10-24T09:29:43+00:00

For women letting go of things gives them an advantage over the average competitor:

-Let go of your fat

-Let go of your feminism and anti-male attitudes you have been indoctrinated into

-Let go of narrow sexual communication framing "me object, you subject", "you do 99% of the work because men and women are different and I'm worthy on a deserted island"

For men their SMV is more about adding stuff. Women just need to release their fat and bitchy attitudes and go back to their natural curiosity about men they had for boys as girls.

wtknight · 2023-10-24T11:10:37+00:00

Being overweight will limit who one can attract. It's pretty much the same for men and for women. Some people can tolerate a man or woman being overweight or even obese, and others can't. That's pretty much all there is to it.

ChevalierAuChocolat · 2023-10-24T12:13:25+00:00

Although statistical trends obviously exist, there are definitely men who love BBW, and they're not terribly rare either.

However, these men tend to be on the heavier side themselves. If heavy men are not your cup of tea, then (assuming you are white) I would recommend you to get with Jamaican or Caribbean men. I've lost count of how many times I've seen lean black men with obese white women.

itm4l2000 · 2023-10-24T12:23:08+00:00

JDBF is not easy and it depends on what a persons starting point is. Someone with obesity is still going to have loose skin after all that fat is shed so I dont think it's a panacea. Unless you also undertook surgery to remove the excess skin.

I disagree. You'll need to still develop interests and cultivate experiences that give a person depth that makes them interesting and fun to be around with.

DapperDan1929 · 2023-10-24T12:40:28+00:00

My ex wife getting fat is what caused us to divorce

CryptoThroway8205 · 2023-10-24T13:14:30+00:00

How dare you leave the looks quarantine thread?! D:<

Agree JDBF is probably enough for most women to get first dates

YveisGrey · 2023-10-24T13:19:56+00:00

If you’re gonna lose weight do it for your health not for men. Men are easy anyways.

farm_hand_7 · 2023-10-24T13:49:38+00:00

Just like with women choosing men, when men choose women, there are multiple 'gates'. Being fat is the first gate.

There are plenty of qualities or lack of besides being thin that may disqualify a partner, but being fat is a no at the first gate.

On that note, food is a temporary effect on your mental health. Your body you live in for the other 23 1/2 hours out of the day. For me, it's far more important to be unhappy about not eating than unhappy about being heavy.

sweetestpineapple · 2023-10-24T14:06:02+00:00

I think a woman has to be significantly fat for it to affect her this greatly. Tons of guys prefer thick women. Women who are just overweight and not obese, or even at the low end of obese don’t seem to have a shortage of options. It depends on where you live and what type you’re into too.

Toxic_LigmaMale · 2023-10-24T14:16:01+00:00

We also like muscle mommies. So if you’re going to carry weight, make it muscle.

Veloci-Tractor · 2023-10-24T14:58:38+00:00

more like JDBC (just dont be crazy)

Bay-AreaGuy · 2023-10-24T17:00:23+00:00

There’s more to it than that, but yes, not being fat will alone be a big plus (no pun intended), especially in today’s America.

bootyhunter69420 · 2023-10-24T18:41:28+00:00

Are you a cute chubby or just fat? Fluffy girls can be attractive.

JigMaJox · 2023-10-24T19:03:21+00:00

Not every guy thinks like that.

Think positive and be yourself, do what makes you happy.

Focus on what makes you love ... you!

A partner will come eventually, dont stress !

itdoesnotmatterlolol · 2023-10-24T19:25:06+00:00

Yes. I was a teensy bit overweight and I spent 4 years getting ghosted on dating apps. Updated my photos after hitting the gym and had 8dates scheduled in two weeks.

It's like sorry I like computers and turned that hobby into a multi 6 figure career. Women's standards though 🤣🤣🤣. It's like cool you got a tight ass but you literally have done nothing with your life other than suck dick and get supported for it. That ass will fade.

Berzabu · 2023-10-24T20:12:12+00:00

You're probably not doomed.

It's possible that you will struggle more than other women, since most men have been molded to almost only like model bodies.

But there are exceptions and maybe you should be looking for signs. Some men will probably date you. I myself find some chubby and fat women attractive. It's not an exclusive thing nor is it a fetish at all. I just happen to like it. It's not the first time I go for the fat girl in a certain group (to my friends' surprise lmao, but I don't really care). I think this sub is especially hostile against fat women.

Don't take drugs for weight loss. If you really want to lose weight, do it the right way.

DesertShifter · 2023-10-24T23:02:25+00:00

JDBF is not a man thing, its a both sexes thing. Women aren't lining up to date sumo wrestlers, the difference is that dudes acknowledge that them being fat will fuck up their dating lives while women started 2 movements to pretend being fat is beautiful and healthy.

this makes me feel so doomed

I cant even imagine how privileged someone must be if their only worry is "I'll have to eat less and exercise omg how awful"

what about ozempic and other weight loss drugs?

People who used ozempic to lose weight gain it all back because they dont change their eating and exercise habits. Thats the thing about cheats like this, they address the symptom but not the cause.

Plazmatron44 · 2023-10-24T23:11:40+00:00

Just don't be fat is irrelevant anyway since every fat woman has a legion of simps ready to date her regardless, usually it's upper tier men with an abundance mentality that reject fat women not Joe average.

SlipperOrchid · 2023-10-25T03:19:03+00:00

I mean there’s a whole category of men that are chubby chasers. I guess it’s whatever two people are attracted to. I personally love a man with a teddy bear belly and a big booty.

PsyphonCat · 2023-10-25T14:20:30+00:00

For info only, my wife is 100+ Kg (that's what she told me). I am shorter and half her weight, but I love her. Her positive caring character is what attracts me.

Comfortable-Dare-307 · 2023-10-26T21:34:22+00:00

It depends on what you mean by fat. If we're talking 600 lbs, I probably would not date them. If we're talking under around 250 lbs, then that's fine by me. Bigger women, imo are more attractive, plus they're a lot better in bed. My ex-wife weighed 230 lbs when I met her. I find her very attractive. Not all guys are the same. The ones that just don't want you to be fat are probably in the top 10%. The problem is that even overweight women think they deserve the top 1% of men. And when those men reject them, they think all men care about is sex and weight.

Title	JDBF (Just Don’t Be Fat)
Author	cheratho
Upvotes	52
Comments	418
Date	October 24, 2023 2:14 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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