45% of men age 18-25 have never approached a woman in person

throaway2s1fsfsf4 · 2023-09-28T16:05:37+00:00

In my country (France), ~75% of men aged 18-24 have never been in a relationship. This drops to ~25% for men aged 25-34 and then ~10% for men aged 35-44. This data is old too, I doubt it improved.

Young men don't do much with women, it's not a surprise to me at all (though I'll admit that when I first saw that kind of data I was surprised).

Ohmaygahh · 2023-09-28T17:01:23+00:00

And despite this reality, women really expect men to take this all in stride and to behave normally, confidently, without a care in the world.

63daddy · 2023-09-28T15:58:43+00:00

I can’t speak to the specific data quoted, but I’ve read many articles addressing this general trend. As someone who worked in higher education for years, I’ve also seen it first hand and it comes as no surprise to me.

New students were all required to go through sexual assault training which essentially said men are constantly stalking women with the intention of going them harm. This of course puts women on the defensive when approached and makes men reluctant to approach, fearing both a negative reaction and potential accusations of sexual assault or harassment. Related, the EEOC now lists present giving and standing near someone as examples of harassment.

At the same time people are now often engaged with their cell phones making them less approachable.

gopher_glitz · 2023-09-28T18:51:03+00:00

Women are terrified of being raped and murdered by a date or stranger when the reality is most rapes are by people they already know and most murders are probably the husband's

Full-Negotiation-775 · 2023-09-28T15:50:53+00:00

Pareto distribution. 80% of the approaches to woman are made by 20% of the men. These men don’t have to be the best looking ( although I’m sure a positive feedback look from being good looking and having good interactions makes it more rewarding for better looking men), but the most psychopathic; and/or narcissistic; and/or relentless e.t.c men who are willing to play the numbers game to get laid. This leaves a large amount of men having not approached yet most women having been approached

django62293 · 2023-09-28T17:45:00+00:00

I blame people being overworked, underpaid, and the decline of third places. There’s almost nowhere to go just to hang out.

virtuousgo · 2023-09-28T17:17:36+00:00

I'm 24 years old and I've never asked a woman out ever my entire life.I just can't imagine being with a woman at all.I fully gave up 2 years ago even tho I never tried.What I mean I gave up is I had no hope and that's still the case.Its mostly from experiences that I see in other people the reason I gave up.I see people who are more attractive than me being cheated on.I see what woman say they want in a man and it's always the top way above average.I think average people are just lucky or maybe they know the person for a long time that they have feeling for them and that's why they get relationships or they're just too simpy and sacrifice themselves just for a woman.I don't know man,i wouldn't even be able to accept an approach even if someone did that to me,wouldn't be able to have sex.That life in my mind is completely out of the way like I feel like it would be easier for me to become a billionaire than getting a girl to find me attractive and I have no idea why that is because ive never tried but just goes to show how fucking bad the dating scene is that people like me exist and they're quite a few but I guess thats just nature and I accept it

Amiskon2 · 2023-09-28T15:49:57+00:00

There are some other factors here:

Just trying dating apps and failing to get any non-spam matches in months is enough to discourage men from real life approaching.
Men who are average or under average are discouraged and shamed for approaching women, more than ever, and now add the risk of social media exposition for just wanting to meet women (oh, the horror, men want sex!).
No access to social environments where it is socially acceptable to approach women. Imagine moving to a new city and having no friends. Would you go out to a bar alone? Most men wouldn't, and in fact they would look pathetic on their own, so they don't.
Approaching in real life is now discouraged in favor of online dating at worse and at best approaching women who you know but not too close. If you have no social network, caused by just mild autism or just moving, it is probably over.
Men have to put more effort for less reward (e.g. a used up untrustworthy promiscuous woman). This is called p*ssy inflation by incels.
Porn and video games can distract men from this reality. Antidepressants and other drugs can also help to deal with depression of loneliness, so there is really no greater motivation for those men to change that, and honestly I don't think they will be successful anyway.
Many of those men don't have jobs or live with parents, so why try getting women if they will never be able to even have sex and get commitment before getting that?

ModernCoquette · 2023-09-28T16:02:57+00:00

Something I have commonly heard among women is that men are approaching them, just not the men that they wish would approach them. Perhaps a part of the problem is the percentage of men who are approaching are the ones giving men a bad rap, and because the other percentage isn't there to give women a better opinion of men, women believe all men are this way. (A part of the problem, not the whole problem).

I also want to add that most women aren't coming to Reddit to discuss the mundane interactions they've had with men. We do experience terrible things and sometimes we don't even want our friends to know how much we are struggling with it. Reddit offers a glorious anonymous space to vent. This goes both ways.

Electronic_West_1831 · 2023-09-28T18:12:58+00:00

Is it that surprising? They’ll have spent their formative years being told over and over again that to be born a man is to born with an original sin that can never be absolved of, that “all men are trash”, that to so much as glance in a women’s general direction is tantamount to rape, and that male mental health is worthy of only scorn and derision, etc.

neinhaltchad · 2023-09-28T17:05:22+00:00

No matter how many studies that come out like this, you will still have the same faction of feminists, misandrist and white knights on PPD claiming “average men are doing just fine, incel!”

In various threads this week, I’ve seen people claim “it’s easy for an average guy to get casual sex!”

At this point, to hand wave away the gestalt of all of the many studies we have seen that point to a legitimate and very negative shift in the dating experience for young men is to just be willfully ignorant (or pretend to be) for the sake of “owning RP creeps!”

This is a debate sub, and like so many other conflict oriented arenas, people get dug in to their belief system so that they refuse to see any evidence that counters their goal (fighting the RP misogynists etc)

It doesn’t help that the vast majority of “bans” and “warnings” leveled on people is directed at one side and one side only.

I think men need only look at their own lives and the lives of those around them to see what’s actually going on.

Women have a vested interest in gaslighting men on these issues (IE: it’s your personality / misogyny) and thus are not worth listening to, hence every woman (and a few white knights) always respond to data like this with “nothing to see here”

obviousredflag · 2023-09-28T17:07:23+00:00

other bigger studies showed the same age group of men being chronically single

I am interested in those studies. As far as i have seen, relationship status is only asked for the current time and not for "No relationship within the last 5 or 10 years". So i have not seen data that would suggest chronically single. Already for no sex in the last 3 or 5 years it was down to single digits for young men.

But the reality is we're increasingly living in atomized times, men are more timid and especially more risk averse than ever to the extent they're not even trying to "bother" women with approaches out of fear of coming off as intrusive.

If not bothering women is more important to those men then getting into a relationship or having sex, then this seems to be the situation they prefer. Hard to imagine that the sex drive has lower priority than the chance to bother someone.

Looking at all the "where to meet women" threads though, there certainly is a demographic that thinks, or is using this as an excuse, that approaching women is something one cannot do in most places where they meet women.

Other than that, approaching in person isn't really needed in an online world where 50% of new relationships start from an online contact (just 12% is online dating apps).

jpla86 · 2023-09-28T19:31:39+00:00

And that number is only going to go up higher. I'm much older now but if I was 18-25, I sure as hell wouldn't be approaching them either.

macone235 · 2023-09-28T20:45:25+00:00

The number is only going to increase both in frequency and age as well. We will be Japan 2.0.

Women simply aren't worth it for men.

herefortheparty01 · 2023-09-28T18:25:12+00:00

I don’t blame them one bit

Reversegiraffe1 · 2023-09-28T23:49:40+00:00

Here's the thing that women really need to stop doing and it's just one thing: don't give a guy the impression like you're interested when you're not. This does not apply in the service industry and men should know better here. Other than though, I've seen countless times when I grew up of a woman teasing a man and pretending to be interested. She will smile, laugh at everything and even touch his shoulder acting super flirtatious. As soon as the guy goes the next step and asks for a number, she'll be like "ewww" in a what in the hell makes you think I was interested reaction.

I know this for a fact that women do this on purpose because I grew up with two sisters. Her and her friends would always talk about and laugh at how they led on some poor sap. They would laugh at how they would try to get his attention and acted flirtatiously just before denying him at the last moment all for their amusement. Don't be this scumbag. It's far more common than you think.

Saw a girl in junior high literally do a lapdance to my friend on a schoolbus and was surprised and disgusted when he asked her out. I've had women I'm not attracted talk to me as well and hit on me and never do I play along or flirt just to stroke my ego. If you do this wether you're a man or a woman, you're a piece of shit. I noticed women do this far more than men though. I would rather have a woman be immediately disgusted or apprehensive at me approaching. That's fine. Or even just being polite and cordial won't be taken any other way. You don't have to be attracted to anyone you don't want. Just don't try to make anyone believe you are.

The typical advice for men, and pretty much the only thing you can tell them, is to talk to woman and gauge her reactions from there. Don't be suprised though at this point that many men are no longer approaching - even the men you find attractive and would like to be apprached by. There's always the risk of sexual harassment and even if you do hit it off well with someone and they seem very receptive and flirtatious, it can just be them doing it for funsies. This is entirely in women's control and shits things up for both sides in the long run as even men the guys you would be interested in will be more hesitant to approach.

Icy-Sprinkles-638 · 2023-09-28T16:36:32+00:00

This is what a broken society looks like.

Congrats, ladies. You won. You wanted men to leave you alone, now it looks like you got what you wanted. I don't want to hear a word of complaint.

ImaginaryDimension74 · 2023-09-28T16:04:53+00:00

I remember a woman who posted a YouTube video about being harassed walking down the street in NYC. Watching the complete video it became apparent most of this harassment was people saying hello to her. If saying hello is considered harassment of course fewer men will approach women.

LTRand · 2023-09-28T17:18:53+00:00

It's a game of chicken. A lot of men don't want to appear preadatory. A lot of women won't approach men. And then women complain about the lack of quality dates, and men complain about women being unapproachable.

So we all head down the road of loneliness with everyone afraid to initiate "first contact" outside the "safe space" of the internet.

Covard-17 · 2023-09-28T16:31:47+00:00

Women only want chads and/or white men, why should I even try?

Clementinequeen95 · 2023-09-28T17:07:49+00:00

As a woman the main issue isn’t the random approach’s. I find the bigger issue is many men cannot read social ques and many women have been socialized to be polite and kind to strangers. So while our body language is telling men we’re not interested, they’re not getting that. I’ve had men approach me and when I’ve told them I have a boyfriend than you though it turns into the “well I don’t see him” or “he isn’t here rn why can’t we talk?”. Those types of interactions are why women have exhaustion to things. I do believe if men could read social ques better it would be fine to approach. But to be frank, many men simply can’t or can and refuse to leave regardless.

NotARussianBot1984 · 2023-09-28T16:39:23+00:00

MeToo

I wonder what the definition of approached is. I bet it requires you to ask out a girl. Women are very good at not being in positions where they have to reject men overtly.

Revolutionary_Law793 · 2023-09-28T17:48:27+00:00

I hate being approached in public, it scares me. It is ok to do it at the party, but not on the street.

Sandstorm_221 · 2023-09-28T16:40:31+00:00

I am 21 and I don't think I'll ever do it tbh. Just too terrified of potential consequences

JNRoberts42 · 2023-09-28T16:14:20+00:00

this sub or r/TwoXChromosomes some women would make you think the average woman today is being harassed whenever she leaves her apartment.

Because it’s the same self styled “pick up artists” who stalk non-social spaces like retail and grocery stores and parks and sidewalks relentlessly hitting on 99 women for one paltry phone number. Thank the grifters who sell this pyramid scheme to women’s fatigue with low effort bullshit from friendless men who cannot compete in social venues.

Deadwalking2k · 2023-09-28T16:15:59+00:00

Yeah well women are fucking awful these days.

KingOfTheIncels_ · 2023-09-28T16:56:33+00:00

I need to, I'm still kinda trying to unlearn that asking a stranger out is some evil immoral thing.

VTHokie2020 · 2023-09-28T18:14:33+00:00

'Approach' is such a broad term, idk what it means

I have never gone up to a woman at a mall and done a 'cold' approach where I tell her she's beautiful within the first 30 seconds like the PUA's do.

I have talked to people in public, but rarely.

Have def talked to women at bars and clubs with sexual intent.

Not sure what counts.

Elliejq88 · 2023-09-28T18:22:53+00:00

Well thats sad. People need to learn social skills.

Comfortable-Dare-307 · 2023-09-28T23:20:56+00:00

I always wondered why women couldn't approach. Why does all responsibility always have to be put on the man? With the #metoo hysteria, approaching a woman as a man now can be dangerous. If you're not good-looking, tall, and rich, you get accused of sexual harassment by saying hi once. Women complain they can't find any decent men. But then turn around and scream harassment when someone does say hi. It's ridiculous. That's why I stopped trying.

Cethlinnstooth · 2023-09-29T08:10:02+00:00

Sounds about right to me based upon my experience. It was about like this in gen X too. There's always been a significant portion of young men...heavy on autists and various STEM types... who won't approach unless a woman repeatedly hits them over the head with increasingly blatant indicators of interest.

A lot of guys I saw grow up I can pinpoint pretty accurately the moment they realised that guys who approach get the girls first.

The difference is games and porn. Those guys who don't approach also don't go out and socialise in mixed company any more so they stay home not on display to women and so don't eventually have some woman decide to work on setting them in motion.

So maybe it's time just to stop listening to their whining.

nonplussedminus · 2023-09-28T17:15:24+00:00

This is the result of feminism teaching sensitive young men that merely looking at a woman is literally rape.

NakedStreets · 2023-09-28T15:52:17+00:00

some women would make you think the average woman today is being harassed whenever she leaves her apartment.

What zoomers do isn’t the deciding factor of whether women are harassed in public.

Since I became a teenager, I’ve been harassed by men from their teens to their 80s. “Dirty old man” is a cliche for a reason.

Young men could stop talking to women entirely, completely disappear off the planet, and young women will still experience harassment.

Workaholiconew · 2023-09-28T20:47:37+00:00

I mean have you seen the market these days?

Men have the avg lowest testosterone ever, meaning low sex drive.
Women are basically just burdens and risks, meaning low demand.
There is an excess and export of harpies from the west.
There are more important things to worry about (like cost of living and decreased employability).
In the west harpies can and without a doubt will put you behind bars or kill your social life for not being a compulsive conformist.

I am old(31), but I am not blind to the 18 years old plight right now. They can barely look for a job... ever... why would you imagine they should be focusing in sex is beyond me.

Odd_Interest_5311 · 2023-09-28T16:56:12+00:00

Why would a guy approach a woman irl? Dating apps work fine if you're good looking enough for a cold approach to work

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Logical-Confection-7 · 2023-09-28T16:48:06+00:00

Is just compatible with a hypothesis. It doesn’t mean that is why they are not asking women out. Really is that everything online too. And finally, 18-25 should be subdivided to see who is the bulk of people who haven’t asking out no woman. I bet is mostly 18yr olds.

Blue_Robin_04 · 2023-09-28T17:01:01+00:00

Dating apps are so crazy.

Loud_Definition6669 · 2023-09-28T17:43:48+00:00

I've seen this shift occur in the last 10 years. Obviously I've gotten older but it's telling that I get hit on more by men my age than younger women I've worked with get hit on by men their own age.

BeneficialRush4171 · 2023-09-28T18:03:04+00:00

That explains a lot. There’s too much of an over reliance on OLD but still a large portion of women have never used OLD. From my personal experience, the vast majority have never used OLD and just date guys in their circle, school, work or hobby group. The only women I know who’ve used OLD are women who are very anxious about talking and getting to know guys (including my younger self) or have very busy lives like nurses and lab workers.

Green-Quantity1032 · 2023-09-28T19:27:45+00:00

Well it's out of Alexander's followers - which means it's a lot of forever-online people.

But yeah, stats seem about legit.

gntlbastard · 2023-09-29T01:41:52+00:00

45%? Got to pump those numbers up guys. In the age of social media why bother approaching. Just live your own live, pump and dump and protect yourselves.

Makryll · 2023-09-28T16:25:07+00:00

I don't get it, sorry. If 45% of men haven't approached, does that mean that the virginity rate for young men aged 18-25 is also 45% (or close)? Are women suddenly the initiators? America explain

Razieloo · 2023-09-28T15:53:35+00:00

Why is there no source? Ugh, there’s just one Pinterest icon

MistyMaisel · 2023-09-28T17:22:24+00:00

My only question is: what counts as an approach?

Lenovo_Driver · 2023-09-28T15:50:59+00:00

Ever read a post here and wondered what is this guy even talking about, he clearly has never talked to a woman in real life… turns out you were probably right.

Pathosgrim · 2023-09-28T19:27:15+00:00

No surprise. This is post me-too era.

Safinated · 2023-09-28T18:23:29+00:00

Yes, because internet. This is not just confined to dating — I do the majority of my tasks, entertainment and consumption online as well

PjeseQ · 2023-09-28T21:43:32+00:00

Why would you even approach women these days when you're not a top-tier Chad? To wreck your self-esteem totally? Nah, thx.

abaxeron · 2023-09-29T11:46:04+00:00

I'm of course proud of the young for learning to cope with pussy thirst, but it's worth remembering that they're still playing women's game here. Not a permanent solution.

They invaded your schools, universities, workplaces, labor unions, and army regiments, because they said it will be fair, better, and make them better wives.

They lied. Who are you helping by making them even more comfortable at these new places they now consider their own.

Shebalied · 2023-09-28T17:18:13+00:00

that sub is full of crazy ladies, don't worry about them.

Tasenova99 · 2023-09-28T21:44:00+00:00

Speaking from my age. I had the loml crush my soul after 3 years cheating on me. (big whoop, yea ik)

Anyway. I think one of the main things though. Is that there are now other factors at play that my life isn't so straightforward anymore. There are men saying you don't have to be wealthy to have a women in your life, and I say no. Time is money. Until the time and money costs are not as stressful, I will not date another woman so I fall under that 27%. If someone else has me go through that again, then there will be stability through other means.

Aromatic_Ad5473 · 2023-09-28T20:49:57+00:00

The average woman is being approached and harassed regularly. Usually not by 18-25 year olds.

1Here4Bach · 2023-09-28T15:59:09+00:00

Then they proceed to blame women for them being too scared to approach women.

PrecisionHat · 2023-09-28T17:18:39+00:00

It's pretty sad, if true.

I'm an older guy (38) and I've noticed that, whenever I go out to a bar or club (not much, these days, but occasionally), women are typically genuinely surprised when I approach them and start up a conversation.

Most times, it's very positive. Sometimes, it can be negative (but this is rare).

I'm no Chad. But I'm no slouch, either. I'm also married, so I never have any intention of picking up.

Seems competition has gone way down, out there, though.

I think the best thing for men is to somehow get over fears of rejection or of a negative interaction. If it happens, just move on and don't take it personally, if possible.

Dstar538888 · 2023-09-28T18:28:46+00:00

Aren’t those self reported experiences tho?? Do you really think that a man who is creepy and harasses women is going to self incriminate himself by admitting that he does that??

Cat_Lover259 · 2023-09-28T19:12:52+00:00

Okay? We don’t like being approached by strange men in public. Can you blame us? Assaults happen left and right all the time. Some men are learning to change, it’s nice to see it happening.

angelicasinensis · 2023-09-28T17:01:03+00:00

HEY GUYS:

Just a reminder, WE LIKE GETTING ASKED ON DATES IF YOU ARE POLITE. Even if we say no, it is still flattering! YOU GOT NOTHING TO LOOSE!!

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-09-28T16:55:33+00:00

some women would make you think the average woman today is being harassed whenever she leaves her apartment

Because 55% of men 18-25, are approaching women every time they leave the house.

extent they're not even trying to "bother" women with approaches out of fear of coming off as intrusive

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odd_cloud · 2023-09-28T16:27:28+00:00

The guy who wrote this quickly attributes this stat to personal characteristics. However, it’s possible the guys that don’t approach are normal, but the social norms changed.

Also, he attributes this stat to fear of rejections, but doesn’t ask if guys feel they know how to approach. I bet a large share of guys doesn’t approach because they don’t know what to say and how to behave.

wtknight · 2023-09-28T17:20:26+00:00

It seems like it’s not as acceptable since swiping in dating apps became a thing. And the women who don’t use dating apps are probably the ones who don’t want anything to do with strangers to begin with.

CroomagnumTX · 2023-09-28T17:40:11+00:00

As a man who grew up before the apps, I don't see this as negative news at all. There are better ways to meet people now.

Ok_Scene_1799 · 2023-09-28T20:10:14+00:00

I just made a post considering that majority of men are sexless and everybody I mean everybody was: No! That's not true!! If so many men can't even approach a woman how come??

p_ython · 2023-09-28T20:31:43+00:00

Surprised its that high, in my circle of friends, we're all over 27 now btw, I think its more like 20%

Tresavage1 · 2023-09-28T22:03:41+00:00

This literally took the words out of my mouth, I agree with this so much

Exciting_Phase_1665 · 2023-09-28T22:14:02+00:00

your dataset is a twitter screenshot, what about the full study?

womandatory · 2023-09-28T23:56:00+00:00

And so many of them are here, as an ‘authority’ on what to do/not to do with women.

JumboJetz · 2023-09-29T00:00:52+00:00

Men don’t need to approach women in 2023 in a physical space.

It’s moved online which has its own problems.

And 55% of men in those age groups approaching women is still a lot of approaches. Plus you have the “pick up” guys who are approaching 100+ women a year.

So yes it’s possible for a declining number of men to approach and women to still feel they get approached too much.

2023-09-29T00:04:45+00:00

that’s ridiculous wtf 😳

AI_CODE_MONKEY · 2023-09-29T00:06:44+00:00

"Approaching a woman for a date" is narrow a frankly a little bit "old-fashioned".

If you hook up with an acquaintance, and that turns in a FWB situation or a relationship, he still has sexual/romantic experience without never having asked a woman out on a date.

kjk67895 · 2023-09-29T00:10:18+00:00

Why would I? Online dating is so much better (and using social media)

You get to know someone likes you before failing.

Welllarmedhippie · 2023-09-29T00:14:37+00:00

A small minority of men are doing all the harassing. They're the complete opposite of timid. This data is irrelevant to that.

NefariousNaz · 2023-09-29T02:29:42+00:00

I'm not surprised given social media constant shaming of men approaching or looking at men.

Throwawayfor_advicee · 2023-09-29T02:37:53+00:00

I think when we think about this information, we also have to take into account the way the dating world is different for the younger generations.

The norm is no longer approaching a random girl at the grocery store, but rather hitting her up online. Either one would be fine, but it’s really the way you go about it. I got with my boyfriend when he messaged me asking me out, but that was because he just respectfully asked if I wanted to go on a date with him & I was interested. On the other hand, I’ve got a block list a mile long of men that have started conversations with a dick pic.

As for being approached in person, I definitely think these ages line up. I get approached the most in person by older men, and unfortunately got approached more than ever when I was a minor. I literally couldn’t get the mail at 14 without being cat called by a 60 year old man, or even having to see some creep drive down the street jerking off.

Also, even if 45% of ALL men have never approached a woman irl, that still leaves a majority that have. I don’t think this really proves the point you meant it to.

Comms · 2023-09-29T03:33:04+00:00

45% of men aged 18-25 had never approached a woman in person for a date

Are ya'll really that afraid of social contact or something?

Fofotron_Antoris · 2023-09-29T03:45:45+00:00

When even approaching women can end up with at minimum your reputation destroyed and your name dragged through the mud if she feels like it, you can get why men these days won't bother to try.

OtPayOkerSmay · 2023-09-29T03:59:58+00:00

Part of it is that men are apprehensive for various reasons - fear of rejection, fear of social ramifications, social anxiety/deficiency, etc.

But, another part of it is that some women that would be receptive to approaches (you just know) make themselves, whether intentional or not, very unapproachable.

M_LaSalle · 2023-09-29T05:01:46+00:00

The study is probably in the ballpark. Women aren't especially open to being approached except by the most attractive men and approach carries some risk of anything from nuclear rejection to complaints of harassment. In addition a high percentage of modern women are fat and unattractive. None of the above is likely to improve in the foreseeable future.

Exciting-Debate-2082 · 2023-09-29T05:27:35+00:00

50% percent of men around my age don't even be shooting??? LMAOO there's no competition fr

razten-mizuten · 2023-09-29T06:31:23+00:00

This links to a tweet. What is the original source?

prettymuchredpilled · 2023-09-29T06:31:32+00:00

The end result of widespread high-speed high-definition Internet porn and a culture that demonizes traditional masculinity.

Key-Faithlessness-29 · 2023-09-29T06:58:56+00:00

I think it should go even down and men shouldn't approach women at all. Guys spin the table around and make them approach you instead.

Maelas84 · 2023-09-29T08:16:37+00:00

The problem is, these "studies" are based on the honor system..meaning they rely on the subject being honest. Take ALL of this with a huge grain of salt.

Shoddy-Donut-9339 · 2023-09-29T09:10:46+00:00

It might be like rape. Male rapist are very rare, but rape victims are common because the rapists that do exist rape 6 women each on average.

Most guys are too chicken and or too polite to approach women in person but some men may be approaching more than one woman every day.

I have never post a woman that I did not know for 2 months. I was quite chicken. While I did not get with many women from me approaching them, and I actually got with more women from the women approaching me, my success rate at approaching women was quite high because I was only aproahing women that I kind of knew liked me because I had known them for months and had enough time to figure out that they liked me.

MasterTeacher123 · 2023-09-29T09:17:53+00:00

I’ve said it for years, The average man doesn’t have the balls to approach women unless he’s wasted at a club or bar or something. Day game is almost non existent lol

I think a large percentage of the women I bagged through cold approaching was simply because I was the only one who had the balls to try and it was refreshing.

Infamous_Pirate_7400 · 2023-09-29T10:01:02+00:00

What about countries that don't have "approaching" women in public as a cultural norm. I'm from Ireland and guys only approach in pubs after 10 pints.

ColbyXXXX · 2023-09-29T11:35:54+00:00

Just use social media like normal people in 2023. In person approaches are old school.

Willow-girl · 2023-09-29T13:02:38+00:00

They have porn. Lots and lots of high-quality porn.

Nihix · 2023-09-29T13:44:09+00:00

Is it about cold or warm approach?

Tiny_Werewolf1478 · 2023-09-29T14:39:39+00:00

All according to plan, right?

MetalBones18 · 2023-09-29T15:04:42+00:00

I have never do it and I wont lol

FatefulMender89 · 2023-09-29T15:53:56+00:00

When I was in that age bracket I tried twice and failed. I quickly learned that waiting for them to come to me was the only option and when that’s the option the quality is terrible

halcyon1999 · 2023-09-30T01:22:47+00:00

Most men approach women on social media apps, instagram, tinder, snapchat etc. Doesn't really make sense to go out and meet a potential long term partner or hookup in person when you can go on your phone and do it in literal seconds. I'm a 32 year old guy who hooks up with women way younger than me all the time, so maybe i'm just old af and out of touch, but all this talk of "lonely single men" makes no sense to me when we have the easiest access to women that we've ever had in human history

kdjsjsjdj · 2023-09-30T12:40:02+00:00

Because cold approaches only work for chadlites and above. You can expect to be arrested and being interrogated by police officers for hours if you even try speaking to a girl while being ugly.

You have to understand that you’re a bad person for being ugly. People will laugh at your funeral because you’re ugly, people won’t care about your feelings or boundaries. You are a subhuman in all categories if you’re ugly. That’s life.

Title	45% of men age 18-25 have never approached a woman in person
Author	Napo_De_Leone
Upvotes	467
Comments	492
Date	September 28, 2023 3:38 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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