Women are not entitled to anything from men

catchtowards12345 · 2024-08-13T21:20:21+00:00

I am leaving this up because it conforms to the rules. Please do not post "duh" as a top-level comment. That is against the rules.

throwaway477549 · 2024-08-12T19:37:25+00:00

Nothing to debate.

blackdaalia · 2024-08-12T21:29:53+00:00

Personally, I think everyone, regardless of gender, deserves respect and are entitled to basic decency, which to me would be not making their lives purposely worse or intentionally hurting them. This is the way I try to live my life. If someone doesn't adhere to my basic principles, that's fine, i can't make anyone do anything, I'll just avoid them as best as I can and, if forced to interact, I will treat them the same way they treat me.

Basically, I don't really care what people think others are or aren't entitled to, I just care how they treat people around them. I think the easiest way to live is to just treat everyone well, and if they treat me like shit, I'll just hold up a mirror.

To keep in mind in case you want a relationship with any person: the one thing anyone is always entitled to do in any situation is leave.

I will say, however, people are entitled to certain things in certain situations, which is why we have contracts and laws, for example.

GGMcThroway · 2024-08-12T21:31:12+00:00

I disagree on respect, as I believe that everyone is entitled to respect as a cost of living in polite society. Women are not more entitled to respect than men, but they are entitled to respect (the same amount as men).

Everything else is common sense, though.

bluepvtstorm · 2024-08-12T20:10:41+00:00

Water is wet.

Birds have wings

Mice eat cheese.

_CuntfinderGeneral · 2024-08-12T20:18:31+00:00

They're entitled to be left alone/not harassed. Might sound obvious but so is the rest of your post.

flipsidetroll · 2024-08-12T20:07:51+00:00

Yawn. Ok Captain Obvious. No one is entitled to anything. Good chat.

RayRayGD · 2024-08-12T19:43:59+00:00

No one is entitled to love except children No one is entitled to friendship No one is entitled to sex No one is entitled to effort Respect is earned

The only thing people are entitled to is basic decency

Children are entitled to certain things, but even those entitlements are limited.

MongoBobalossus · 2024-08-12T19:38:13+00:00

Who is claiming otherwise?

bluehorserunning · 2024-08-12T21:47:55+00:00

Well, all people are entitled to a modicum of respect as long as they themselves are not acting disrespectfully.

berichorbeburied · 2024-08-12T20:13:33+00:00

I have yet to see women demanding anything, let alone these things from men being the norm. If you know of any systematic issue where women are allowed to demand these things from men just because they are women please do tell but it sounds like you're mad at someone who you feel took you for granted because you gave them something and did not get what you wanted in return.

DJ_Dialga · 2024-08-12T19:46:02+00:00

Of course not but it needs to be understood that without giving something the woman wants, he can’t get what he wants from her. What I am entitled to is to ask that I receive something in return for what I’m giving within reason. Just like you wouldn’t expect someone to work for you for free, why should women sacrifice without expecting anything in return? That wouldn’t make sense and would contradict human nature.

As a relevant example, I never trusted Mr. Beast because his behavior never made sense. Nobody would have as much money as he does if they just gave it away.

leosandlattes · 2024-08-12T19:52:02+00:00

What is the actual argument here? No believes anyone is entitled to these things. Certainly there is some agreement on which kinds of men and women are deserving of these things. But that is not the same as them being entitled.

What people are "entitled" to is the basic treatment that is seen as the "standard" within a society. That's it.

Sadsad0088 · 2024-08-12T20:17:06+00:00

Yeah no shit sherlock

Mountain-Jicama-3207 · 2024-08-12T19:46:58+00:00

Idk anybody who thinks like this besides online gold diggers? People in real life would shame a women who acts like this including other women.

Major_Smoke3673 · 2024-08-12T21:09:09+00:00

I can't believe people are getting roped into this pointless discussion. Redditors arguing just because they get a kick out of arguing.

SnooMarzipans8221 · 2024-08-12T20:13:26+00:00

Okay. What's to debate about then?

obviousredflag · 2024-08-13T07:15:57+00:00

Are you changing out of your niceguy mentality? Is this more than a hurt response to your best female friend not wanting to fuck you?

SovereignFemmeFudge · 2024-08-12T20:36:30+00:00

Agreed, now leave us TF alone-promise?

attendquoi · 2024-08-12T20:08:57+00:00

I've never seen a woman say otherwise.

spanglesandbambi · 2024-08-12T19:50:56+00:00

And in other news the sky is blue.

This whole post is screaming im cross and having a tantrum.

RedstarHeineken1 · 2024-08-12T20:21:07+00:00

Mkay

gordonwestcoast · 2024-08-12T23:05:23+00:00

Women are not entitled to anything from anyone, period (and neither are men).

miramira17 · 2024-08-12T20:41:39+00:00

Okay and water is wet. 😂

Realistic-Ad-1023 · 2024-08-12T21:47:29+00:00

There is no entitled to anything. You should live a good life, treat others well, and enjoy the days you’re gifted on this planet.

However, there are reasonable expectations while in a relationship.

Example - you’re nice to a girl hoping to date her. She doesn’t see you as a partner. You are not entitled to her companionship. But neither is she entitled to yours. If either of you do not like the terms of your interaction, you are free to end the relationship at any time. You don’t like that she won’t be more than friends? End the friendship. She doesn’t like that you keep pushing for more? She can end the relationship.

Another example - you’re dating a woman and want to get married and have children. She decides she doesn’t want to get married or have children. When you bring up marriage and children, she shuts down the conversation, tells you she isn’t ready, but will be once she graduates. Once she graduates, you bring it up again, she says she isn’t ready but will be once you’re financially stable. Sort of nebulous, but you concede. You both have decent jobs in a few years, so you bring it up again. She says she isn’t ready because the relationship isn’t stable or happy enough and she wants to work on that. She gives you no end in sight and you want to be married and have a family. You are not entitled to marriage or children. And it’s shitty that she’s stringing you along. But you are free to leave the relationship without your needs being met. And she is free to leave if hers aren’t.

No one is entitled to a boyfriend or wife - but there are reasonable expectations within a partnership that keep both partners invested in the relationship. If you feel they aren’t holding up their end of the agreement, you are free to leave. We can’t control other people - only ourselves.

GreenWitchFlora · 2024-08-13T00:10:21+00:00

Nothing to debate. This should be obvious for all genders.

RoadClean357 · 2024-08-13T04:20:42+00:00

Is this supposed to be controversial? These are basic rights for anyone of any gender.

Lower-Director1043 · 2024-08-13T23:50:18+00:00

MEN DONT OWE WOMEN A LIFETIME OF COMMITMENT CAUSE WE FUCKED THEM ONCE !

False-Purple3882 · 2024-08-12T20:09:06+00:00

that’s already understood

Judging from the way men act towards women, no it’s not lmao.

Epicus94 · 2024-08-12T19:49:58+00:00

Bro. As a male, I don't have it either

LimpJongUn · 2024-08-12T21:33:27+00:00

I really dont like these kind of posts as it pits women against men and vice versa. We are all human beings, i believe we should treat each other with respect and dignity by default until proven otherwise.

TheRedPillRipper · 2024-08-12T22:56:45+00:00

not entitled

Expectation, is different to entitlement. For example; it’s fine to;

• expect love

• expect friendship

• expect sex

Expect Effort. Respect.

Entitlement is an issue. It however is perfectly reasonable, to expect things from a partner. It’s especially relevant, when vetting for a potential one.

NockerJoe · 2024-08-12T20:00:39+00:00

The problem with not being entitled to something that exists in abundance is that it's probably really hard to remember that if you suddenly stop getting it.

UpbeatInsurance5358 · 2024-08-12T20:42:52+00:00

Yeah, already understand that....

SaBahRub · 2024-08-12T21:47:40+00:00

I thought you made your decision about this months ago, lol

Also, yeah, we already know. That’s why people of both genders complain and nag, because that’s all you can do when it’s not an entitlement

NewSpekt · 2024-08-13T07:20:13+00:00

This gender war is depressing...

notmyrealnamepapi · 2024-08-13T08:13:35+00:00

Umhh, we know?

BigBustHunter · 2024-08-13T15:52:26+00:00

Honestly this whole redditism of "nobody owes anyone anything" is just genuinely one of the saddest mindsets I've ever seen and I feel bad for anyone who genuinely lives their life this way. Must be very lonely to be a closed off cold asshole who doesn't even treat people with basic respect and views everything as a cold transactional relationship, purely based on what one must do for another.

Sorry but people are entitled to love, friendship, effort, respect, etc. That's all the stuff that makes life better for everyone if we all do this. Why do you want to live in a world where people are not nice to each other and view every interaction as some Machiavellian power struggle? Why is that a world you want to live in? Sounds depressing and lonely to me

Lyzard9666 · 2024-08-12T21:24:16+00:00

We are if you're actually interested in having a real relationship.

TheCounsellingGamer · 2024-08-12T21:41:01+00:00

I disagree that women are not entitled to respect, but I suppose that depends on what your definition of respect is. For me respect means treating people with a basic degree of decency. I don't believe that is something that has to be earned. We are all entitled to being treated with basic respect.

I'd also argue that women (and men) are entitled to not be harmed by others. As a woman I should be entitled to walk down the street and not be sexually harassed by drunk men. Men should be entitled to walk down the street and not be mugged. I'll accept that I'm probably arguing semantics there though, since technically that's an absence of something.

overandunderX · 2024-08-12T22:39:38+00:00

Basically what you’re trying to claim is that women are not entitled to basic human decency ie “respect”.

I disagree. I believe all humans are owed basic human decency, the right to not be physically harmed or have their bodily autonomy imposed upon.

KayRay1994 · 2024-08-12T22:53:28+00:00

Nor does anyone think they are, outside of some women with entitled outlooks on life, your average woman (or average person, really) doesn’t think they’re entitled to any of these. You’re arguing with either a projection of how some men on here think or with “the modern woman” (ie. a creation of rage bait online content red pill creators love to peddle)

Financial_Leave4411 · 2024-08-12T23:05:49+00:00

I would argue both sides are entitled to basic human rights that we as a society have agreed to have laws in place to protect ourselves with. For example everyone is entitled to not be raped, physically assaulted, robbed, harassed etc. Saying we as humans in a developed society aren’t entitled to anything is a bit too far in one direction.

MyLastBestChance · 2024-08-13T00:27:10+00:00

How about we all agree to treat others, regardless of genitalia, with basic human decency, respect and consideration until or unless a specific person behaves in a way that makes that treatment inappropriate for that individual ?

Ya know, like mature civilized adults?

PlaceComplete7906 · 2024-08-13T07:49:56+00:00

All I want from men is to be free from violence. That's all.

makeumadd · 2024-08-12T20:55:47+00:00

All these idiots in the comments not realizing that women use men for quite literally everything.

If a man says he won't take no from his partner after asking for sex its berated with hate, but a woman saying the same thing and the comments applaud her just for an example. Women have become so entitled they still believe they aren't the most catered to and pampered side of the human race to ever exist.

PaulStamentsHat · 2024-08-12T21:00:36+00:00

Women are entitled to these things in men who pursue them romantically. Of course no one is entitled to anything in a vacuum from all people. If someone has standards that they are entitled to X and Y from someone who wants to be in their life, that is perfectly fine. If you think their standards are unreasonable, don’t pursue them. Not much else to say about this. Everyone knows that no one is entitled to anything from anyone in general. If someone wants a woman’s attention, she is entitled to her standards regarding what that man must do in order for her to give him a chance.

Redalico · 2024-08-12T22:52:41+00:00

I disagree and I find it wild that so many people agree with you. Everyone, regardless of gender, is entitled by the mere fact of being human, to a basic level of respect. The idea that no one owes each other anything is at the core of much of the moral and ethical degradation in modern society. If you don't want to have any obligation to your fellow human beings, go live alone in the woods.

apresonly · 2024-08-12T21:23:34+00:00

then men should stop calling themselves providers or protectors

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PuzzledIdeal5329 · 2024-08-12T21:39:57+00:00

Can anyone be entitled to anything? Would you want to be entitled to a woman and that woman be entitled to you? Is there a benefit to entitlement or is it a house of cards?

fundamentally_comfy · 2024-08-12T22:05:59+00:00

Everybody deserves love, baby

Obsidian_Koilz · 2024-08-12T22:30:31+00:00

General 'niceties', manners, and graces are a social contract most people adhere to. A quick good morning, a head nod, wave, respectful personal space, etc... While these are socially engineered to make cohabitation on this planet more 'pleasant and genial', some do see this as a basic form of accepted... well... entitlement. You are entitled to have your personal space respected. If not, there are accepted consequences for the breech of etiquette.

However, while women are not entitled to the love, effort, friendship, or sex from a man.... these facets are deemed as appropriate applications for successful dating opportunities/relationship sustainability. I did not mention in the reverse as your post spoke of women in particular.

The 'safety' entitlement question has become such an issue. I'll say this, I'm grateful for the gents I have as friends. I've supported and backed them in ways I'm capable - and they do the same for me. And while we've not found ourselves in perilous situations often, the one time we did it was ALL hands on deck. Not a single one of us sat out. All 7 (4 girls and 3 guys) went to WORK. Every single one of us got dusty. That's how my friends operate.

If your people can see you get dragged and pummeled and stand around.... those aren't your people.

As to strangers, Kitty Genovese couldn't count on them either way back in the day. I don't expect anything from them today. Man or woman.

Glittering-Moment-11 · 2024-08-12T23:19:41+00:00

Well, most romantic relationships won't survive without things like respect, love or friendship (sex is unnecessary, though).

Stunning-Ad14 · 2024-08-13T01:10:47+00:00

It depends on your morals. A lot of people believe that all people deserve respect.

McPigg · 2024-08-13T01:21:57+00:00

They are entitled to freedom of movement, human rights, physical integrity, basic human dignity, freeom of speech etc etc tho. At least by law in the US. Saying not entitled to "anything" is weird, but i guess you mean "anything more then any other person"

But how would you "apply that in real life", you mean not respecting, being friends with, putting effort in, sexing or loving women? Like full mgtow mode, but without even the pump & dump, and treating them disrespectful when you have to interact? Or how would that apply, assuming your a man?

Hosj_Karp · 2024-08-13T02:34:00+00:00

Yikes I hate that the endpoint of political discourse on both sides is coalescing around "you don't owe anyone else anything ever and selfishness and narcissism are virtues"

we're doomed

SadMouse410 · 2024-08-13T02:42:43+00:00

Obviously? I don’t think anyone would say any different about either gender

Connect-Moment-8007 · 2024-08-13T03:15:40+00:00

I will simplify and clarify.

What the OP is attempting to say is that women routinely reject men and still demand or expect friendship, the same amount of attention, validation, compliments and acts of service. Usually using the Lets Just Be Friends ( LJBF ) rejection.

A blatant attempt to flip the narrative so that she’s not the bad guy for rejecting him and he is if he rejects her consolation prize of pseudo friendship..

He probably got a LJBF after “ getting to know her “. Because she “needs to be comfortable “. He spent time , money, began investing his emotions in her before actually having a relationship.

He tried to skip the sexual tension part and move to “ being comfortable “ . It doesn’t work that way .

Maybe he tried to friendship his way into a relationship that includes sex .

He is correct woman are not entitled to anything more than basic human decency. That doesn’t include being your friend , doing boyfriend like chores or services minus boyfriend privileges. .

He got hurt and hopefully learned a valuable lesson.

You cannot negotiate attraction or desire.

Respect is earned not given for existing .

Respect is not the same as basic human decency.

There’s a difference between being nice and kindness. Nice is baseline human behavior we all use to interact in a civil society.

Kindness is very different. They might on the surface overlap .

Kindness is doing something and not expecting anything in return, Its showing empathy and compassion with those we are close to .

I am polite when I ask the waitress/ waiter for a bison steak and Malbec or Merlot.

Kindness is when I help my sister , Gf or mom and dad when their car breaks down 50 miles away from me . As one example.

He needs to learn how to set and enforce healthy boundaries. That means , when a woman says LJBF after he asks for a relationship. He says no thanks, i am looking for a relationship. I am attracted to you. Thats not going to change. If a relationship is not something you are interested in then it’s best we go our separate ways so I can meet women who are interested in a romantic relationship..

Take care .

Unfortunately we don’t teach this to young people anymore.

Women become angry when a man rejects LJBF. There’s probably millions of threads about that . Unrequited love is painful and potentially harmful to mental health. Don’t accept friendship if that’s not what you want and torment yourself.

Men often believe being a nice guy and not showing any romantic/ sexual interest will somehow get a relationship. So they are not fully honest and clear in their intentions.

I have always been honest and very clear in my intentions. If anything it gets respect even a relationship that includes sexual intimacy.

Women need to be very clear when rejecting a man . Of course its best to reject in a public place where you can be out of hearing range yet are able to get away. Bring a friend , brother make relative . Have them stay a discreet distance away .

Say something like You seem like a good guy , unfortunately we are not a good match . I am not interested in a relationship and it’s best we go our separate ways.

Or if he is being a friend yet obviously has romantic feelings for you. Tell him . it is obvious you have romantic feelings for me. I don’t see you that way . I am not going to have a relationship with you.

I don’t want to mislead you or give you false hope .

Some guys buy gifts and provide services. I cannot accept those gifts. That’s really thoughtful of you to drive me to the show . I am going to get a Uber with my friends . I don’t you to think I am taking advantage of you because you are interested in. romantic relationship. I don’t see you that way . It’s best we go our separate ways. I hope you meet someone soon . I understand this is disappointing.

That is basic human decency ans compassionately yet honestly rejecting a man and setting healthy boundaries.

There’s plenty of women who are all to happy to take full advantage of a mans romantic interest.

Just like there are men who take advantage of a woman’s interest in a committed monogamous relationship and use her for sex .

Those are both degrading and disgusting , entitled narcissistic behaviors .

Those awful dehumanizing behaviors are what many of these debates revolve around.

He got LJBF , is hurting and angry.

He needs a healthy older male role model and mentor

zahacker · 2024-08-13T03:30:02+00:00

Ok, and? Not disagreeing with you on this but who’s listening to you? Exactly, spend your time and words on something with a return on investment rather than communicating about subjects that others will call ‘rhetorical theories’ or ‘mute points’.

Jake0024 · 2024-08-13T05:21:04+00:00

Everyone already agrees with pretty much all of this. Except maybe respect. No specific person is entitled to your respect, but if you go around treating everyone disrespectfully, you're an asshole.

MidoriEgg · 2024-08-13T06:53:35+00:00

I think every human should be entitled to freedom from violence/assault by other humans. They are entitled to be paid for contracted/salaried work they do for another person (if this was agreed prior). I think a basic level of food and water should be a human right/entitlement (of course, this is more likely to come from a state or institute than another individual)

People should be entitled to freedom from harassment/stalking (of course, a definition of illegal harassment has to be defined). People should be entitled to their human rights etc.

So if you want to get really pedantic, women are entitled to these things from men, and men are entitled to these things from women (and everyone is entitled to them from everyone).

Boxisteph · 2024-08-13T07:47:23+00:00

I don't think any women disagree, many women live that reality already.

The only thing I will raise is that part of the social contract means that everyone contributes and everyone gets the benefit of whatever that society deems essential. Physical safety is one of those, not every man or woman gets it but society will often fight for them to.

A minimum level of respect as a fellow human being probably covers everything though.

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2024-08-13T08:56:44+00:00

Jup agreed no one is deserving or worthy of something that they can't or will not give them selves.

People toss around quite easily everyone should be loved or respected or feel safe or any other emotion they feel intiteled too over somone else.

And often it's as simple as you can't be deserving or worthy of something you your self are unwilling to give somone else.

So why should people take your feelings in consideration when you're so quick to dismiss all of everyone else's feelings.

And many don't understand that for some people hate runs deep by people cause they want the world to cater to them. Cause there feelings matter for them but everyone else has to just adjust to them.

Why I think its just fair to say in a society setting your undeserving of anything you not willing to give back to other people. What included understanding and respect. Something outside your own views. Cause many people wish they accepted there world views but they are so quick to dismissal of anything outside there point of view what often is very narrow and dismissal of any nuance. And at times often even veey invasive to others point of view. That they attack how people can or can't speak or see something.

And I think that counts for everyone. No matter what sex or group you belong to. You deserve nothing more then what you are willing to give others. So what you unwilling to give others. Others won't give you. What's I find is nothing more than understandable.

So even in relationships there people that have cheated a lot. And they think they deserve loyalty in relationships. They will find out they will often just date each other and cheater date Cheater. So no matter what you only deserve what you are giving to others, nothing more.

SentientReality · 2024-08-13T09:12:42+00:00

Al people are entitled to respect, basic decency, human rights, health, freedom, bodily autonomy, and other fundamental essentials like shelter, safety, etc.

So, it's not true that people "are not entitled to anything".

Critical-Network-247 · 2024-08-13T10:35:25+00:00

Can you explain your flair? First time I see this pill.

RinoaRita · 2024-08-13T12:09:25+00:00

The basic line is no adult is entitled to resources from another. But at the same time all adults are entitled to freedom from harassment from another. It’s basically the line between freedom to vs freedom from if you expect people to expend energy to help you vs you wanting people to stop expending energy to harm you.

Ie sure a man isn’t obligated to step in and help a woman getting mugged and more than the reverse. The mugger isn’t entitled to that person’s money.

Same thing with smaller things like sure women aren’t entitled to nice dates but they are entitled to enjoy a quiet night away from some guy that won’t take a hint and go away at a bar.

Unhappy_Offer_1822 · 2024-08-13T12:15:59+00:00

im just so confused as to why anyone here even wants to date since there is so much focus on the negatives

WrathOfFoes · 2024-08-13T14:29:57+00:00

Yea, man. I agree. No real debate here.

Kilatypus · 2024-08-13T14:43:48+00:00

They don't need to rely on entitlement when there is always another man willing to emote for them.

You can disengage from women all you want. They will just date the guys who do engage with them.

All you'll be doing is seeing yourself out of the gene pool, but most men are doomed to extinction anyways.

antlindzfam · 2024-08-13T16:57:57+00:00

I mean yeah, but like you said, men aren’t entitled to anything from women either. I think that most people understand that no one is entitled to anything from anyone, except for maybe a kid from their parents. I don’t really understand who would disagree, lol

despisedlove2 · 2024-08-13T19:09:18+00:00

As humans, none of us are entitled to anything. Some of us earn things - money, career, fame, partners, etc. The gynocentric laws and the often ignored in group female bias ensure an entitlement mentality among women. When it is limited to cute gestures, it is harmless. However, it rarely remains limited, and inflicts severe damage on men. With the end of the compromise that balanced relationships in traditional times, the damage is such that any compensations that a man might find in a relationship are a) not worth it, b) rarely last, even if they once were. Societies in the West are fracturing in any case due to the woke nonsense, and whole pronoun / genderfluid machinery may just put "normal" heterosexual relationships out of their misery finally.

badgersonice · 2024-08-13T19:15:58+00:00

Women are, however, actually entitled to express opinions you don’t like, just as you too are entitled to complain about them.

You are not entitled to force every woman on earth to shut up and never say the things you are complaining about here.

I’m making this post because I’m going to apply it to real life soon.

What does this even mean in practical terms? Like, it sounds like you are threatening to deny women things you never offered them in the first place anyways. Why should anyone care?

A_real_keeper_LOL · 2024-08-14T02:39:48+00:00

You are right, but being right doesn’t get you results.

If you want results, you have to play the game.

NeatEngineer5623 · 2024-08-14T06:19:19+00:00

This is true and obvious, but one thing I'd like to add, is women aren't entitled to a seat on public transport. And I'm talking in the sense of when the bus is full, women expect men to sit up and offer their seat to them. In a world where feminists has killed all forms of chivalry, somehow they believe they are entitled to be offered a seat all because they are a woman. That's one thing that really irks me.

ladyindev · 2024-08-14T14:46:07+00:00

You said it’s already understood that men aren’t entitled to these things but not sure about that. A lot of the bitterness and misogyny we see basically reeks of entitlement to women’s bodies, labor, and love. But sure, no one is entitled to romantic or friendship affection from anyone.

However, people are entitled to respond to how you treat them. If you don’t show respect and you want to date me, I have a response for that. If you don’t show effort and want to date me, I have a response for that. If you’re a friend and show the same lack of contribution, I have a response for that. People should and do find and positively respond to people who are delivering what they value and seek in a partner and friend.

Stargazer1919 · 2024-08-15T23:14:45+00:00

Y'all want to blame feminism for the world falling apart. But then you post shit like this that clearly wants to break all social contracts.

FlyingHighLow · 2024-08-12T22:03:07+00:00

Took me a long time to realise I didn’t own women friendship. I’ve told girls who rejected my advances to figure their own way home. Gosh they were pissed.

Patrickstarho · 2024-08-12T19:53:16+00:00

Anecdotal evidence

silverhippo15 · 2024-08-12T20:39:26+00:00

Women as a whole? Of course not. Only a small percentage of women are entitled to all the world has to offer because they earned that privilege by either being born into it or worked their way up.

hongsta2285 · 2024-08-12T21:14:50+00:00

I'd agree u left one out...everything sort covers it but ... it's actually very important

This is for the romantic fellah that haven't woken up

Women are not entitled to your hard working money

I think that's atleast in the top 5 list friend

I think it's one of the saddest things to see like only fans and other things just paying for nothing.

These vices honestly shouldn't exist if men had better role models

Sorcha16 · 2024-08-12T22:29:58+00:00

women are not entitled to friendship

Everyone deserves a basic level of respect.

MarjieJ98354 · 2024-08-12T23:11:39+00:00

Women already know we are not entitled to sh!t. Once again men insult women's intelligence by reminding us about shit they think is a basic right for men. But we will soon welcome you to the lonely hearts club many of us are already in.

PuzzledIdeal5329 · 2024-08-12T21:28:21+00:00

You are entitled as a man

Fabulous_HonestTea · 2024-08-12T19:53:40+00:00

Women don’t want any of that shit from men. They don’t even want men anywhere physically near them.

Now, Chad, on the other hand, his love, friendship, sex, effort, and respect is always in high demand and is highly coveted.

Difficult_Falcon1022 · 2024-08-12T21:54:36+00:00

women are not entitled to respect

This is a key way some men see respect which is in conflict with how most women do... respect for the stranger is a universal human right.

A respect for an individual's accomplishments is better termed as recognition.

You've said it's understood that men are not entitled to those things, but I disagree. There are plenty of men who say otherwise, structural barriers preventing the case and mainstream media propagating misogynistic territorial behaviours in men.

ATasteofTx214 · 2024-08-12T22:12:43+00:00

A big difference that I observe on these social platforms is that what we desire, demand, and choose doesn't correlate to what we've earned, deserve, or are entitled to. Some of us seek complimentary partners that have the qualities that we lack.

Particular-Crow-1799 · 2024-08-12T23:17:06+00:00

I think respect is basic decency

Esteem is earned. Respect is due.

(BTW I'm not a man, I'm a male agender, but there's no flair for that)

Oli_love90 · 2024-08-13T00:07:02+00:00

We have a silent social contract & “life subscription” in the form of forever taxes. Essentially we’re already born into a system in which it’s a given that we are granted a bit of respect to continue existing relatively normally (of course there’s a lot of nuance but I’m taking general)

So unless you’re going to withdraw yourself from society, arguably respect is all that’s asked of you. You don’t need to love, you don’t need to maintain friendships, you don’t need to put in the effort to court someone, you absolutely do not need to have sex. But If you weren’t already showing some respect you would have already been ostracized.

So when you say “apply in real life” what are you planning on doing? Never talking to a woman again?

Title	Women are not entitled to anything from men
Author	berichorbeburied
Upvotes	236
Comments	485
Date	August 12, 2024 7:36 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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