"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality

Electric_Death_1349 · 2024-08-18T22:27:34+00:00

Hitler was extremely charismatic - if he could remould an entire nation in his image, getting a GF would be easy

LapazGracie · 2024-08-18T21:19:28+00:00

The problem is personality is such a vague term it can mean just about anything.

For example someone with a severe anxiety disorder. That can be perceived as a personality element.

Sure if he's a Chad then even with a severe anxiety disorder he will likely be able to find some poonani. But most guys are not Chads yet most guys do end up married or at least in relationships. So it serves to say that having certain personality traits will get in the way or help you.

An average looking guy who is naturally charismatic and gregarious will do a lot better in the dating world then an average looking guy who stays at home 24/7 except for work or going to the grocery store.

So it matters yes. But it's not as important as some people make it out to be as well.

Disastrous_Donut_206 · 2024-08-18T21:05:18+00:00

Bob is financially stable because he inherited a trust fund.

Joe is financially stable because he worked hard and managed his resources carefully.

Henry is is lazy and reckless. Is Henry broke because he didn’t have rich parents, or because of his personality?

McPigg · 2024-08-18T21:23:23+00:00

You think "personality" means being a nice, decent human being? See, what it really means is habing a STRONG personality, so confidence, charisma and leadership qualities

Nellylocheadbean · 2024-08-18T21:01:17+00:00

Personality matters for maintaining a relationship. It doesn’t necessarily have to be a good personality, it just has to mesh well with the other person.

SnooMarzipans8221 · 2024-08-18T21:55:28+00:00

Men with autism who don’t understand social skills or norms are perfect pussy repellent despite how attractive they are.

Clean_Woodpecker_974 · 2024-08-19T04:30:36+00:00

People in the comments are saying that what OP is describing is a "strong" assertive personality and that it's actually attractive to women. But we have to be intellectually honest. When women use the term personality (especially on reddit) they're trying to imply that your struggles with women are because you're an immoral person. They point to misogynistic things that incels say in their communities and say "see this is why you're incel".

Personality does matter in the sense that men with psychopathic traits do better with women. But women on reddit will tell you that you struggle because you say mean things on the internet about women. Pretty much every psychopath has done much worse things than that to women.

ladyindev · 2024-08-19T07:55:49+00:00

You seem to struggle with balancing multiple truths. I see this a lot.

He can be single because of both his looks and his personality. If women are telling you it’s personality, it’s likely because we know what turns us off. So we already know and have seen personalities that made the difference. It’s also true that all women are different. I think you’re also conflating personality with goodness. I think goodness wins, but even when women are attracted to toxicity, we’re still talking about personality one way or another. The serial killer could be wildly charismatic, alluring, and manipulative. He’s not a good person and many women won’t be into him, but some will.

But let’s stick with your logic. By your own suggestion, looks, money, and power are the deciding factor and if he were insanely handsome, he wouldn’t be single. So logically, you seem to be suggesting that women only like insanely handsome men and that personality doesn’t matter. Most men are not insanely handsome by a conventional standard. How are millions of men getting married and having sex every year if most of them are average in looks? What’s the deciding factor that lands most average-looking men into relationships and marriages if they aren’t anywhere near “Henry Cavill” aesthetics, have nowhere near Bill Gates’ money or Castro’s power? You’ve said it isn’t personality, and by extension quality of connection, but they lack the standard of looks, money, and power that you’ve highlighted here. So what is it?

Also, why do some women leave men with looks or money if that was the main reason for being with them and they have maintained those traits?

wtknight · 2024-08-18T22:43:09+00:00

A better personality helps a man compete against other men of similar attractiveness for quality women. A good-looking man with a worse personality will attract either less attractive women or women with issues.

JadeGrapes · 2024-08-19T00:58:33+00:00

Don't mistake status for companionship.

Guys at the top of a status ladder can often "buy" a social climber who tolerates them in exchange for status for themselves.

That is not the same as bonded companionship.

The difference, is the social climber would not be with ___ if they lose their power. Versus the bonded companion, would rally her resources, and carry him for a while.

I know it's frustrating to you to assume all women are hoes that can be bought... but right now there are women in your city that are rubbing the shoulders of their beloved who "justs" works at the grocery store. Because she likes HIM.

his_purple_majesty · 2024-08-19T01:43:16+00:00

You're confusing personality with being a good person. Just because you're a shitty person doesn't mean you don't have the sort of personality that women find attractive.

Westernation · 2024-08-18T21:45:51+00:00

No one wants to admit they’re shallow beings, wired that way by Mother Nature.

Of course no amount of toastmasters is going to make an ugly guy into a pussy magnet. You can’t trick or negotiate women into loving you.

Specs400 · 2024-08-18T21:50:19+00:00

It's probably been said, but personality can make or break an interaction that could go either way. Let's face it, most of us don't wow each other at first glance. Feeling like someone gets me, or is funny or kind or bright, can tip my attraction toward a solid "yes" from a "maybe-probably".

It adds to whatever baseline attraction there is.

Independent-Key4328 · 2024-08-18T21:14:34+00:00

A classic example of the pathetic just-world fallacy is the belief that if he's single, it must be due to his bad personality. This all comes down to the idea that "people get what they deserve," which is laughable when you observe reality.

MyLastBestChance · 2024-08-18T23:16:45+00:00

There’s a difference between being able to get in a relationship with someone vs.being able to get in a relationship with someone that you want to be in a relationship with…

WindSlicerEXG · 2024-08-18T22:19:42+00:00

For a lot of men it’s not their fault if they’re single, they didn’t choose to be invisible

SulSulSimmer101 · 2024-08-18T21:49:22+00:00

OP these women are damaged. Like what's the argument here?

Yes serial killers get married but these women aren't normal or healthy.

Yes Hitler had a wife. But he shot her and killed himself along with their kids.

Like what's your point?

Yes it doesn't stop you from dating but that's only if your interested in schizophrenic crack heads who are abusive and or severely damaged.

Like you want healthy and normal sane people to date. Quantity means nothing if it's all garbage.

srwat · 2024-08-18T20:56:27+00:00

It's worth noting that you have to meet a certain threshold for social cue awareness as well generally, aside from looking the best you can within your ability.

That threshold is not too difficult to hit, but if you don't make it there, then your "personality" ends up being deduced as being poor.

Pola_Lita · 2024-08-18T23:44:46+00:00

When a man can't find a relationship, I often see women deducing the unlikely, namely that his problem is his personality.

I doubt that women are going to credit the failure to entirely one quality when they know nothing about the man other than women don't like him. If a man says he's not ugly, living in squalor, or still ruled by his parents personality seems like a fair enough guess.

Attraction is based on more than one attribute, even if one of those attributes are at a level enjoyed by only a very small percentage of men.

ATasteofTx214 · 2024-08-19T01:05:09+00:00

Most of the men u listed got women specifically because of their powerful persuasive personalites. Their women r psychopaths as well, if thats ur thing, let ur freak flag fly to attract crazies. Idk y this is so difficult to understand; what u lack in one metric you can overcorrect n another. Gates can b awkward and plain because he has an abundance of money, power, and persuasion. Cavil makes up for what he lacks because of looks, and actors can fill relationship according to their spouses' desires.

januaryphilosopher · 2024-08-18T20:54:29+00:00

What a failure of logic. Just because a bad personality doesn't prevent absolutely every man from getting into a relationship does not mean it cannot prevent any man at all from getting into a relationship.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-08-18T22:06:26+00:00

If a dude can’t close the deal, then it’s his personality.
Looks open the door, you personality and vibe get you inside (literally)

Even an “arrogant” personality is a personality.

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Tiny-Side3720 · 2024-08-19T04:29:03+00:00

You started off with a fallacy. Just because SOME men don't require personality to attract women, doesn't mean ALL men don't require personality to attract women.

Some of the men you mentioned, hate it or not, were charismatic, despite their abhorrent behavior. Ironically, being charismatic is a personality trait, one which many women fall for.

In conclusion, yes, some men only need looks/power/money/fame. But you can, and the overwhelming majority do, find relationships without that. Proof: we have 8 billion people, not 80,000, on Earth.

obviousredflag · 2024-08-19T07:33:46+00:00

Your argument is wrong. Just because someone can get into a relationship if he is powerful enough, doesn't mean that someone who is average powerful is not getting into a relationship because of his personality.

DXBrigade · 2024-08-19T09:27:09+00:00

They are also ugly and broke men in relationships.

itawk2much · 2024-08-19T10:39:08+00:00

Wasn’t hitler married to Eva Braun? 🤔

Sadsad0088 · 2024-08-19T10:42:42+00:00

Personality is taken into account when the baseline attractiveness is met, and can be helpful and make you attractive when you’re not strikingly ugly.

I think when people say bad personality online many actually mean bad social skills, that totally kill attraction for many women

Shebalied · 2024-08-19T13:24:41+00:00

We see women single because of their personality IE they are a bitch. Some men can get into a relationship due to their personality. I feel it is less likely now than it was 10-20 years ago. Because of how many options women have now on the dating market on social media.

W-Pilled · 2024-08-19T13:57:11+00:00

Tell that to r/exredpill and r/incelexit

They think personality is everything over there

Barneysparky · 2024-08-18T21:10:59+00:00

I just responded to a guy whose post history is, had hookups when I was a bit younger, those didn't pan out for a relationship, and now no one where I live wants to go on a date.

What's this guys problem? Jaw line?

WarezMyDinrBitc · 2024-08-18T23:57:22+00:00

Women tell men whatever benefits women in the dating market the most. Studies show they are literally attracted to sociopaths and dark triad traits, yet they will never readily admit it. They respond most to men who value them the least.

Judaicyrus · 2024-08-18T20:52:27+00:00

Good looks, money and status can be all things that will help yout to get into a short term relationship or ONS. If you want a LTR you need to have a good personalitty otherwise no women will stay with you.

alebruto · 2024-08-18T21:14:47+00:00

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apresonly · 2024-08-18T22:33:39+00:00

so personality isn't an issue for fascist leaders and murderers.

what about average men?

Key-Faithlessness-29 · 2024-08-19T00:26:24+00:00

Personality doesn't mean nice guy or not. It means having a character that is unique. Being someone noticeable and having things to talk about. It means being AN INTERESTING PERSON

Redpill-mind · 2024-08-19T04:25:08+00:00

I've said this before:

Looks get her attention

Game keeps her

Perfect-Resist5478 · 2024-08-18T21:15:02+00:00

Not true.

I dated a guy whilst in med school that was extremely good-looking, tall, fit, with a good job; he was fine as hell. Spending time with him was more boring than watching beige paint dry. We dated for give or take six weeks before I just couldn’t do it anymore. his incredible sexiness could not make up for the fact that he was just dull

gntlbastard · 2024-08-18T23:44:17+00:00

As far as I can tell men have 2 avenues to secure a relationship

Be good looking
Meet the resource requirement threshold

The latter is getting higher and higher in the west which means that for men with lower resources the good looks option might be the one avenue. Some will go the route of resource accumulation till they can meet the threshold. Others will look at this and simply say, yea the juice ain't worth the squeeze. Eventually things will get bad enough to where civilization comes apart at the seams in which case women will do what they do best - align themselves with the strongest boyfriends.

Downtown_Cat_1173 · 2024-08-18T22:18:26+00:00

Remember the askreddit threads about people who are always single. Most of them are about people who are uncomfortable to be around. None of them are because they’re short.

Lysa_Bell · 2024-08-19T07:53:41+00:00

Here is the truth:

If women tell you "you can't get a relationship because of your personality" then they assume that you also don't have anything else to balance out your shitty personality. Of course you could find someone if you are rich, good looking and so on. You have to have something! But most men are average. They look average, they work average jobs etc. there is nothing exceptional about them. The reason women say it's your personality is because they assume it's easier to become a better personality than becoming rich or very good looking. You can actually fake a good personality. It's harder to fake being rich or good looking. It's the "fake it till you make it" mindset.

Realistic_Guava9117 · 2024-08-19T08:29:42+00:00

A lot of men make it as though personality is more important too. Dudes want to think girls like them “for them” and that they are more socially advanced and can run game and shit. Like “yea bro I’m the man I just know how to talk to women and seduce them”. Or make them laugh…Idk how many women I see on social media and dating apps talking about they want a guy that “makes them laugh”. No they don’t, that’s such a small factor in what they really want.

You know what it is, you hit the nail on the head. It’s looks, money, resources, clout, power. Women like to act like they don’t care about any of that shit and guys like to act like they can get a bunch of women without any of that shit. It’s just copium. Most normal girls are not going to pick a guy thats absolutely hideous for his magical personality as long as he isn’t a complete dickhead.

You see how crazy women are about celebrities, like musicians? They don’t even know these dudes and the shit they say about them is far more loving than the shit they say to most dudes pursuing them. All you’re gonna really do is get friend zoned and cucked for only having a good personality. Women say one thing and do other shit 24/7. Actions speak louder than words.

SaBahRub · 2024-08-18T23:40:47+00:00

Sure they do

Way more men have offended me with what they say and do than with their face or body

Just because criminal fame attracts some women doesn’t mean it attracts all, or men would be murdering left and right to get pussy.

Just because gold diggers and fame whores exist doesn’t mean they are prevalent

TallFoundation7635 · 2024-08-19T07:24:24+00:00

Women highly highly underrate the looks of a man and highly overrate the looks of a woman, so a woman that says that most women don't need to be a chad to meet their attractiveness threshold are wrong because they don't actually understand the real attractiveness of a man.

They also find whatever the media feeds them to be the most attractive. There is a reason that 8/10 looking indians or 8/10 looking asians(before the kpop boom) had much less dating succses compared to a 8/10 black or white dude.

Realistic-Ad-1023 · 2024-08-19T02:08:19+00:00

But saying “a bad personality is a road block to getting a girlfriend” does not mean or equal “having a good personality is a guaranteed way to get any girl you want.”

Men here want a video game cheat code so badly.

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IdiAminD · 2024-08-19T06:39:13+00:00

Many men fail due to being shy, silent, not having style(fashion sense is personality as well), not being active, being not educated, having extremist views, being boring. Yes - being good looking can overcome these problems if you are into dull shallow ladies(there is plenty of them), since being good looking is quite rare, but for the average dude personality may be a dealbreaker. But - unfortunately there are guys who are ugly or have other problems, and this is a factor that makes them bitter which makes their problems even worse. Realistic advice is to improve their attitude - but it's easier said than done, people who were bullied have it much harder to remain optimistic. I think many women here and in other internet places simply do not get it. They do not know what caused this and they do not care, they are judgemental. It is not exclusiely female yhing but since we talk about about incels - women tend to be quite vocal about them.

2024-08-19T06:58:17+00:00

I'll be straight up this mindset is whats gonna keep people who think like this single. Alot of these post and people who agree with it come off as aggressive, entitled, hypocritical and accusatory. I know for a fact people with this mindset aren't doing enough to improve themselves physically and personality wise.

Aiasun · 2024-08-19T10:53:43+00:00

This comes off as such a cope. Like brother, maybe assholes shouldn’t be told “get more power or money” rather than “learn to be nice”…? Like what could your goal with this post be other than some form of cope?

FirmQuarter6623 · 2024-08-19T11:47:38+00:00

Personality is important, but not in a way women say. They say they want a nice guy, who plays by rules, but in reality they want Lucifer. Average nice Joe is boring as fuck, nothing interesting about him and his personality, he's a nobody. Hitler is probably the most recognizable person on our planet, despite him being dead for a while. If you made it in the history book, you probably have not an ordinary personality.

YveisGrey · 2024-08-19T12:38:27+00:00

Just because a “bad personality” (which I’m not even sure what constitutes as such in this context) can be overcome by good looks, wealth and or power doesn’t mean that it’s wrong to say an individual man can’t get a relationship due to his personality. If you don’t have the looks or the wealth/power than yea you need to have at least a decent personality, there has to be some benefit to dealing with you romantically for your romantic partner. This is the difference between in spite of and because of. Those men have partners in spite of their flawed personality traits because they had other attractive traits to compensate for them. If a really good looking guy has a great personality he’ll probably have even more dating options than if he had a terrible personality.

LuckyKirito · 2024-08-19T12:49:08+00:00

You are right but there’s something to add. They are not wrong when they say he’s alone because of personality. It is that they understand that he cannot get relationships because he lacks 3 qualities you mentioned so the only way for him is personality. And let’s be fair some not very attractive men who are not millionaires and not presidents still get girls because of “the rizz”. I see them in the streets where a guy who’s a 5 is with a girl who’s an 7-8. Btw you should not focus on those things as those thoughts will never lead to anything good for you. Just be yourself. Treat women like just people not someone you want to fuck or date or marry(abundance mentality/chasing your goals not women). Be the best version of yourself. And you (not specifically you) will get a gf 99%. There are very little of super ugly guys that cannot get a gf no matter what. There is looksmaxing and a 2 can become a 5 and then you have chances. Play your cards right. But in the end yes what you mention is unfair. Women are mostly polite and won’t tell you you do not get relationships because you are ugly/poor/statusless.

cate4d · 2024-08-19T13:11:02+00:00

Personality does matter, Looks matter too (to some extent, kind of like a threshold and you might even get excused more by certain girls). Above 2 will get you through the door but they can't make a relationship last long. Relationships last long with intention, effort, discipline, sacrifice and attention to detail.

I agree with part of what you said that many girls don't have good sense of who is a good person or bad person, so that is why Hitler and Kim, Goalkeeper keeper. Mature girls do and we exist. (Kind of the reason we see the age gap ick which is projecting this knowledge that the young girl is not mature enough but then she shouldn't be having any relationship at all.)

Look for girls who had father's with them like really involved with them in their formative years and you will find more mature women (lots of anecdotal experience including me and also the fact that he can give the proper example of what to look for). A good father's benevolent disciplining tempers the girl.

Most of the stuff like red-pill or PUA that you might have read would work on girls who have self-esteem issues. My bf read them too and kept getting confused as they do produce results but he never felt satisfied with those results as he wanted to wait for the right girl and marriage to give himself fully to someone. There is hope as he did it too by toning down those parts of him (that made him f-boy like and got him the wrong kind of girls).

indigo_pirate · 2024-08-19T14:57:30+00:00

OP is confusing the ever living hell out of personality and morals

NinjyCoon · 2024-08-19T15:41:28+00:00

Just because some women care more about looks than personality doesn't mean they all do. There are plenty of women, if not most, who may be initially attracted to a man's looks but if they have a grating personality, will not stick around.

InvalidProgrammer · 2024-08-19T17:27:04+00:00

Having a decent personality is achievable for most men, though. Combined with average looks, good hygiene, an okay job, and confidence and that is sufficient to be successful in relationships. These basic areas are all achievable for most men. Being exceptionally rich, powerful or handsome is not.

Most guys fall down in one of the basic areas that I mentioned and that is why they fail. It could be any one or more those areas, but is usually personality or confidence based on my talking to women (which is admittedly anecdotal evidence).

Aiyon · 2024-08-19T17:44:21+00:00

Here's the problem with your logic. You're asking people to prove a negative.

Examples of people getting a partner, despite red flags, does not mean that nobody has been rejected for their personality.

Your examples are also really weird.

Hitler
Serial Killers

Hitler got to power by being charismatic. Serial killers, it's pretty common knowledge that they are weirdly charismatic and that's how they get their victims.

I knew this guy. He was gorgeous. Like, easily a 9/10, maybe a 10 on a good day. But he is awful. Unpleasant to interact with for more than 5 minutes. He spent all of uni single, because sure, women would approach because of his looks, but he always put them off before it went anywhere

EugeneCezanne · 2024-08-19T19:47:02+00:00

There are lots of potential factors that go into whether a man can get a relationship. Personality is absolutely one. But none of them manifest in a vacuum. They all factor in at all times, just to varying degrees depending on the individuals and circumstances involved.

One implication of that is that, yes, some single men wouldn't be single if they had better personalities. Of course, some single men wouldn't be single if they had more money, or better looks, or more status. We should be able to admit any of those points without throwing out any of the others.

I actually consider myself a prime example of the personality thing. I struggled with girls as a boy, and struggled with women as a young man. I didn't get good until my mid-20s, and didn't get really good until my late 20s-early 30s. What changed? I wasn't working out. I wasn't making much money (and definitely didn't spend it on dates or clothes or status symbols). My face is still just my face. In fact, by every objective measure, I should have been much more attractive in college, when I had daddy's money and was really into lifting and athletics.

The only thing that changed was ME. I matured, got more experienced, more cultured, more socially adept, and replaced my childish bravado with actual self-esteem. I wasn't proactively trying to develop a better personality to be more attractive--it's just what happened.

EsotericRonin · 2024-08-19T21:41:38+00:00

Do you go outside? I cant tell you how many attractive friends or friends i know who legit cant get girls because they lack confidence or struggle with anxiety or fear of rejection etc or are just genuinely boring people to be around. Personality is very much something that can cock block you. In fact its quite literally a meme among women, and has been for generations, about how fine they think a man is, until he opens his mouth.

Chris rock did a skit on it to illustrate just how fast women will nope out of situations with a man they were keen on sleeping with just because he said something stupid or offputting.

Otaku_Guy9 · 2024-08-19T22:37:56+00:00

Hitler Was not put in office by the people. They have like a parliament. The Nazi elements of the Parliament Put him in power. The was a lot of anti Nazi In the public. But they kept there mouths shut

Ambitious_Campaign34 · 2024-08-20T10:39:25+00:00

He wasn’t charismatic there’s a Book “Blitzed” it started how Hitler's drug use, drugs including oxycodone and cocaine was prescribed by his doctors. The book is also about how the German soldiers in World War II were amped up by methamphetamine, which enabled them to keep fighting for days without sleeping. Kinda funny how Women finds that charismatic god dang! 😅

nightsofthesunkissed · 2024-08-20T11:38:00+00:00

The attraction hybristophiles feel for murderers and serial killers doesn't really have to do with the "personality" of the man one way or the other.

It's much more about the woman and her set of characteristics, rather than his, especially being as many of them only learned of the man since he was thrown behind bars and an organic relationship (in which she would have actually got to know his personality) never even happened in the first place.

They're not sitting about lusting after murderers and rapists for their crimes in a way that fetishizes the crimes themselves.

It's more about these:

Low self-esteem and the lack of a father figure
Some believe they can change a man as cruel and powerful as a serial killer.
Others 'see' the little boy that the killer once was and seek to nurture him.
A few hoped to share in the media spotlight or get a book or movie deal.
Then there's the notion of the 'perfect boyfriend'. She knows where he is at all times, and she knows he's thinking about her. While she can claim that someone loves her, she does not have to endure the day-to-day issues involved in most relationships. There's no laundry to do, no cooking for him, and no accountability to him. She can keep the fantasy charged up for a long time.
Some mental health experts have compared infatuation with killers to extreme forms of fanaticism. They view such individuals as insecure people who cannot find love in normal ways or as 'love-avoidant' females who seek romantic relationships that cannot be consummated. x

Extraordinarily handsome men can certainly have sexual power that can overpower personality flaws, but that doesn't mean that less attractive men cannot use their personality to attract women as well.

Take Rodger Elliot for example. Look at one of his selfies and imagine that instead of being the whiny little bitch that he was, imagine him having charm, charisma, wit, and being able to laugh at himself instead of constantly taking himself so damn seriously. He wasn't physically unattractive by any means. He also had status and money as well. But he had the personality of a stuck-up, spoilt little brat who expected women to flock to him because he had looks, BMW, money and a famous dad, lol.

SeaworthinessSea2407 · 2024-08-20T15:25:15+00:00

All of your examples are psychopaths, and psychopaths are often extremely charming, and charismatic. They mask their true personalities. If you're going to make the point that women citing personality as a shortcoming is bullshit, using psychopaths as an example is picking low hanging fruit

Away_Sea_8620 · 2024-08-18T22:07:31+00:00

The most handsome man I know IRL is dumb as shit and is desperate to get married. He complains that women treat him like an object, and will date him for a bit to show off to their friends but never stick around. His personality is definitely the only issue.

thetruthishere_ · 2024-08-18T23:57:12+00:00

I think many of you in this sub underestimate personality.

attendquoi · 2024-08-19T00:17:39+00:00

I've dumped guys for their personality 🤷

Patrickstarho · 2024-08-19T00:09:28+00:00

True, I am a broken man but I have a gf who loves and cares for me

Salt_Alternative_86 · 2024-08-18T21:04:59+00:00

The problem isn't getting a woman... It's keeping one. Just ask Jonny Depp, Tom Brady, Will Smith or George Clooney...

driggsky · 2024-08-19T03:38:18+00:00

Yes if you max out looks or status then you don’t need to have attractive personality traits

However, since most people can’t max out those things their personality is the thing that is holding them back

RelativeYak7 · 2024-08-19T00:25:36+00:00

It's amazing how all this red pill baloney is just men projecting their disgusting thoughts on to women.

pg_throwaway · 2024-08-19T03:22:44+00:00

This is completely a lie. Your outliers have nothing to do with the average guy, and most guys are not pretty or rich enough to skate by on looks or money alone. Personality is the main way that men stand out and differenciate themselves from other men, and how men keep their LTRs happy and successful.

I mean, this is basic truth obvious to anyone with relationships experience.

SmokeySunDrop · 2024-08-19T03:14:08+00:00

Yet another post complaining that women are shallow, as if men aren't at all motivated by beauty standards at all 🙄

Freethinker312 · 2024-08-18T22:49:10+00:00

"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality

I am not sure this is never ever the case, but I agree with your point that a good personality doesn't garantuee a girlfriend/wife and a bad personality doesn't garantuee zero female attention. One can indeed not rightly conclude how good or bad a man's personality is based on his relationship status.

However, that doesn't mean that a bad man and a good man who attract women, attract the same kinds of women. Women are not all the same and not women all have good personalities either. Women who enjoy time with bad men, are likely bad themselves.

It also doesn't mean that women are all wrong when they tell that personality is one of the most important factors. I can honestly say that to me a compatible personality is way more a bottle neck than looks. (A personality that isn't compatible with mine of course doesn't automatically mean a bad personality by the way.) It might be possible that a man has a personality that is not compatible with/desirable by (almost) all women, without it being an evil personality. But more often when people are involuntarily single, it probably is due not knowing where/how to look for a compatible partner, which can be very difficult.

Title	"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality
Author	alebruto
Upvotes	126
Comments	494
Date	August 18, 2024 8:48 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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