This is the type of obtuse mentality that I'm referring to when I say "men are committed to misunderstanding us"

tea-pickles · 2021-04-15T18:45:22+00:00

We don’t necessarily want to date men, if all men we meet are low value, have no respect for us and basically leech off of our backs.

We have this place to recognize the patterns of men like this so we can avoid them so we dont bring unnecessary bullshit into our life.

We are allowed to have spaces that are women-only, you don’t get to dictate that we should let men into this space. You have invaded every other female space and made it about you.

Piss off.

carmen_sandiegos_hat · 2021-04-15T18:56:05+00:00

🤮🤮🤮

To be alone with dogs and watering flowers every day sounds like a dreeeaaaammmm. I can donate money to charities, sleep well at night, and publish award-winning journals and books.

No one --and I really mean NO ONE-- is guaranteed marriage. Not in society and not in the Bible. To be in a relationship and feel alone is one of the worst feelings. On paper and to everyone else you look happy or like "you made it" but on the inside, you are suffering.

My ancestors did not go through hell for me to continue a cycle of suffering. Let me live a life of peace and understanding. Whether that includes marriage or not idk but I choose happiness.

LavenderMechanism · 2021-04-15T19:03:19+00:00

They don’t even bother to reflect on the reasons we don’t want advice from men.

For male lurkers: It’s because the advice you give us is always to lower our standards, act in the man’s best interests and ignore our own needs and wants.

Yes, men. We know most of you want and expect women to choose to become your slaves but we’re seeking a higher existence.

cherryloaf · 2021-04-15T19:07:38+00:00

If we aren't that much of a prize, why are you upset that we don't want you?

Br0ther-Finger · 2021-04-15T18:57:15+00:00

It’s sooo difficult to find a man’s opinion! If not FDS, then where?!? I wish I had a man to figure this out for me. Oh well, off to the cat store...

aquietsword · 2021-04-15T18:48:23+00:00

I’ve never seen one woman here ever refer to even a seemingly HVM as a “king”... if I did I would leave 🤣

LilithWon · 2021-04-15T19:11:30+00:00

We don't hate all men. We hate misogynistic men. We want to date good men or none at all. Men who think that we hate all men are the sort of men who think that being a misogynist is an inherent quality of masculinity.
We prop each other up because most women have low self esteem due to being beaten down by a lifetime of patriarchal conditioning. Confident women don't tolerate abuse from men. We aren't "waiting for a king" and we don't care if one doesn't come along. It is better to be single than to be with a man who doesn't meet our standards.
We don't welcome advice from men because most male dating advice does not serve women, it only serves men. Women here aren't struggling to get dates. If anything, we have the opposite problem. We get too much attention from men and we need a system for filtering out the ones we don't want. Men aren't coming up with systems like that because it doesn't serve them.
Most men want a "partner" who is a servile, obedient, mindless sex object and domestic slave. No thanks, I don't need to "listen to men" to figure that out, in fact a lot of men are pretty open in admitting that's what they want. I'd rather be single and an autonomous person, not some man's mommy bangmaid.
Kevin Samuels "dating advice" for women is basically, "your standards are too high, you have too much of an attitude, you need to lower your standards and make yourself smaller if you want a man" (again, no thanks. It's men who need to work harder to become the sort of partner a woman wants.)

FDS is only an "odd horse" if you're operating from the assumptions that 1) the goal is to "get a man" at all costs, even if that man is abusive and low value, and 2) that men are "generally good" and don't need to change or improve. Neither of those assumptions are correct.

ragingchump · 2021-04-15T18:52:47+00:00

Oh we have plenty of “luck” dating men. So much “luck” that FDS is needed to help weed out the bad ones.

pleaseunplugheater · 2021-04-15T19:06:35+00:00

Kevin Scamuels is 2x divorced and dating/grooming a woman 20 years younger than him. There is also an allegation of him being a absentee father to his daughter. It’s easy to be an “image consultant” when you are talking out of both sides of your mouth and promoting a “do as I say, not as I do” lifestyle.
His rented/tucked in price tag wardrobe, mood lighting, and ambient music does nothing but add a false air of sophistication to his misogyny. Which I suppose, is the standard...and checks all the boxes for a male leader of free thought. /s

anywaysheresrational · 2021-04-15T18:44:44+00:00

Wrong in the second line.

We claim we want to date High Value Men, or none at all.

And have the term defined elaborately for everyone to look up. TL;DR ? Be a good person who doesn't degrade women sexually or emotionally/mentally.

[insert shocked Pikachu face GIF]

Gutterchaos · 2021-04-15T19:00:04+00:00

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frustratedanon123 · 2021-04-15T18:59:40+00:00

Who the fuck is Kevin Samuels? 😂

Men, we DO. NOT. WANT. YOU. FDS isn't about dating, it is about becoming the finest version of yourself! Just because your life isn't full and meaningful alone doesn't mean mine isn't.

Yellowsunflowerlover · 2021-04-15T19:41:59+00:00

Kevin Samuels is in his 50's dating a 29 IG model and has had failed marriages, he owes back child support, doesn't help his daughter financially in school, his daughter doesn't talk to him etc. Miss me with that LVM shit. If he's the example that men follow, then no wonder there's scrotes everywhere.

sassyheather · 2021-04-15T18:49:36+00:00

Men: If I want to date women, I’d listen to what they have to say.

Women: We’d only date HVM or none.

Men: reeeeee MiSaNdRy

Fuckdoesithurt956 · 2021-04-15T19:26:40+00:00

Brilliant quote from the most recent podcast episode: "the men who complain the most about our standards are the ones who don't meet them."

sunflowerpaint · 2021-04-15T19:44:01+00:00

That's a lot of words for "I would rather argue with you about what you think than listen to you"

glaciesz · 2021-04-15T19:28:15+00:00

i don’t want to date men at all, i’m just here to make fun of them.

thank you to this guy for giving me more material

prehistorycat · 2021-04-15T18:52:15+00:00

I googled whoever tf Kevin Samuels is and promptly closed the tab as I read the titles of his youtube videos. Losers

pickadaisy · 2021-04-15T18:44:33+00:00

LOL

They can’t stand the idea that our ultimate level up is deciding to date ourselves. Bye, men!

FabledAngryVillager · 2021-04-15T18:52:17+00:00

Why would the lovely ladies here want advice from a LVM on attracting LVM?

We don't want LVM around, but they still keep on wanting to be here with us

Die mad, scrote

airhostess_inthe60s · 2021-04-15T18:48:54+00:00

Just googled Kevin Samuels. He looks sketchy AF!! Like a pimp in a fancy suit...

That's a no for me. I'd rather stay "bitter" and lonely.

Apprehensive_Ad_7917 · 2021-04-15T18:51:14+00:00

Lmao single women are the least lonely people on Earth. We know how to build a vast network of meaningful relationships. Single men? They are lonely and bitter.

islandmaiden · 2021-04-15T18:50:01+00:00

Stay mad 😂

AnKeWa · 2021-04-15T18:53:19+00:00

You see, the point is kind of to not date men and be comfortable with it as long as a king doesn't come along 😂

Also, since when are men asking women for dating advice?

They literally invented the phrase "If you wanted to hunt, would you ask the deer or the hunter for advice?"

LadieLemon · 2021-04-15T19:06:47+00:00

The LVM is just oozing out of him. How pathetic.

Lavender_flow · 2021-04-15T19:41:59+00:00

WE DONT WANT TO DATE YOU, YOU LOW VALUE SCROTE. It is so hard for these idiots to realize that FDS does not care about their small brained opinions, like their teeny tiny brains cant fathom the concept of women saying HELL TO THE FUCKING NO.

"you aren't much of a prize" - ok, then why do you care so much?

Also broski, who the fuck are you kidding. You never listened to a woman in your entire life. Moron.

GoldandGlowing · 2021-04-15T20:30:36+00:00

“If I wanted advice on how to attract women, I’d listen to women!”

FDS exists

“Not those women!”

lillylilacladybug · 2021-04-15T18:51:22+00:00

Yea this is exactly the kind of guy I wouldn’t date and therefore could not care less about his opinion. I’m now more than ever convinced that these men think we sit on some thrown of elitism waiting for the perfect guy. I’m not waiting for anyone that’s how you miss out on your life. I’m living my life, improving myself so I can have an even better life, and experiencing all that this world has to offer me. If a man who meets my standards comes along and I choose to experience life with him that’s fine. But if not oh well I’m having way too much fun to care. I’m don’t feel lacking, or deficient, or missing anything, or lonely, or left out because I’m not attached to some man. I couldn’t care less.

pinkcityscape · 2021-04-15T19:58:01+00:00

Kevin Samuels is a washed up old man with multiple failed marriages why would anyone take advice from him ahahaha. Even male viewers have admitted he’s scammed them in the past.

Not that I give a fuck what these weirdos think about FDS anyway they’re just upset this is the one place that they can’t mansplain us to death...

wreckognition · 2021-04-15T18:44:18+00:00

I guess wanting men who will treat us like human beings deserving of respect, care, kindness, and consideration is just too much to ask 🤷‍♀️

Spittens · 2021-04-15T19:26:12+00:00

I don't know about you ladies, but I would rather rub lye crystals in my eyes than read another idiot scrote's half-assed and uninformed opinion of us.

They never read more than the surface scratch and base their entire belief system about us off that. They're like 🤏 close to actually figuring us out, but don't have the mental capacity (or empathy) to actually make that leap. This whole sub is how to weed out the bad and only give our energy the good. That includes, but isn't limited to, men.

Miss me with this fake intelligence shit.

lansburysoda · 2021-04-15T19:41:20+00:00

Because we don’t want to date most men. Most men are manipulative and/or violent losers 🤷‍♀️

purasangria · 2021-04-15T19:57:07+00:00

Please, none of us is sitting around waiting for a king. 🤡

We're busy with careers, friends, and hobbies. We DGAF what men want; we want what WE want.

Level up, men. You need us way more than we need you, so unless you'd like to continue to be celibate, you'd best change your ways. ☠️

the-worst- · 2021-04-15T20:48:19+00:00

Lurkers, we are NOT trying to attract the degrading and disrespectful men who make up the mass ammount of reddit users. We don't WANT your opinion on what to do to attract YOU. We don't want you.

As an unhappily married woman, I'd rather be ALONE than date LVM/NVM/zvm again. I'd be happy to be alone if it ment I don't have a man breathing down my neck, insulting my hobbies and dreams, invading my space, insulting my body, and demanding all my attention.

To the man who wrote that post: you are trash. Literal trash. We don't want men like you. You aren't even smart enough to understand what we are looking for. We don't need advice on how to GET a man. We have men THROWING themselves at us. We don't want just any type of man. We aren't looking to settle for mediocrity. And if you don't want to level up yourself, and you can't handle that we want better than that, you don't deserve us.

the_moocher80 · 2021-04-15T19:09:46+00:00

Hanging onto the success of FDS coattails, trying to make himself sound relevant. I won’t google you, like all the other LVM I’m not interested in. Block & delete.

judithyourholofernes · 2021-04-15T19:56:48+00:00

Has anyone else noticed pockets of Reddit repeating FDS values, but they don’t call it FDS, so many of them agree that what’s being said, agreeing it’s totally reasonable?

About gaslighting, negging, lovebombing and other manipulations.

I saw a man call a post here insanity, then repeat everything that was said in the FDS post as being normal and good. They must fit in with Reddit’s status quo beliefs, but when they say it, it’s okay, we say it, it’s misandry.

fancy_tetrahedron · 2021-04-15T21:26:20+00:00

none of them are much of a prize

No sweetie, I'm not a prize, I'm a person working on myself and levelling up every day. FDS isn't about attracting men, it's about prioritizing yourself and lot letting men walk all over you.

Not long ago I had a scrote reply to a comment of mine on a post in a different sub that got really popular, he said "look at her post history, she's a FDS member". The things I had posted here were about how I was abused by my dad. These incels and scrotes read those posts and and downvoted me, replied with all kinds of derogatory words for women and dmed me death and rape threats. I didn't believe in evil until I had that happen to me. So yeah, that's the reason why we don't like men around here. For the gender that claims to be logical and rational they sure can get some bad cases of hysteria. If men were allowed here I'm sure the first reply on this comment would be "bUt nOt aLl mEn aRe lIkE tHaT, i'Ve nEvEr dOnE aNyThinG lIke tHat tO a wOmaN."

throwaway32132134 · 2021-04-15T20:25:28+00:00

LOOOOLLLL "They should listen to what men want" Meanwhile the kind of advice I have seen from men:

Ask HIM out! He will think you are the HOTTEST thing since sliced bread! He also will respect you so much for it 😍
Cheating is a normal, but only for men. 🙂 MeN hAvE nEeDs.
cook and clean for him while he does nothing, his mere presence is enough 💞💞💞💞💖😍 He tries his best. He just can't clean as well as you. 🥰
Have no needs, he will love you for your strength ,😍💖😍 Men HATE needy bitches.
Move in with him and pay fifty fifty at the very least! That is really the bare minimum. A truly good girlfriend/wife will pay 95 to his 5. He will love and appreciate you so much for your kindness 😍
- Birth as many kids as he wants while being super content with never getting married. Marriage is just a piece of paper!!!!!!!!!! Men show their love in their actions!!!!! ,🥰💞💖💞
NEVER want any gifts for any holiday, anniversary or birthday. Men HATE materialistic bitches. Men should be loved for their effort NOT their wallet. 💞💖💞💖Stupid gold diggers!!!!! 🤬😡😠😡🤬😡
Perform violent and/or degrading sex acts that only he enjoys. Women really need to stop kink shaming! Men already have such a hard time expressing their emotions! THEY NEED TO choke and piss on you to express themselves. How dare women be so SELFISH! 🤬😡🤬😡🤬😠

LOOL this list was so fun to make 😀

thinktwiceorelse · 2021-04-15T20:52:28+00:00

Okay: get a shower, brush your teeth, get a job, don't be lazy, be kind, don't watch porn, don't be a misogynistic. Yeah, they "totally take" advices from us.

Br0ther-Finger · 2021-04-15T18:53:15+00:00

I don’t know who Kevin Samuels is, but he looks like Tyrice from Love After Lockup.

BlackGirlKnickers · 2021-04-15T20:16:45+00:00

I fucking hate Kevin Samuels. His entire deal is to tear women down and tell them how to be the ultimate pickmeisha.

ethnicallyabiguous · 2021-04-15T21:07:09+00:00

Ha! I once asked this question of men: “Women have tons of men from Derek Jackson, Tony Gaskins, Kevin Samuels,shumakeway etc.... Can any of you name a woman you listen to for advice on women??”

Every one of the Men: “No”

“ we would much rather listen to a guy who is doing it right versus a female, because they don’t know what they want.”

Me: “So you listen to Kevin Samuels, who’s been divorced twice?”

Men:..............

Me:🙄😏

queenagave · 2021-04-15T21:40:08+00:00

if I was having trouble with dating women I'd ask them for advice

Women: literally create a space where we say what we want/don't want

Men: no. Not like that.

Jiou112 · 2021-04-15T21:07:21+00:00

Decent men are never coming. He said it, not me. It's the spinster life for me ladies.

Equipoisonous · 2021-04-15T22:26:47+00:00

Lol, do they know that not everyone here is single? This isn’t WGOW. The strategy fucking works, and plenty of us here are partnered with a HVM (that we still continue to vet of course).

Also there’s a huge difference between taking advice from men and taking advice from male redditors. Male redditors skew heavily toward porn addicted socially awkward misogynistic fat neckbeard gamers. I don’t want their advice on anything, especially not dating.

spicyspa · 2021-04-15T20:33:41+00:00

I used to listen to male dating coaches. I still do at times just to see how they held up post-FDS. 9 times out of 10, they didn't. The only one I still like is Jack Butler whose a "if he ghosts you or neglects you, he's not your guy. Move on." He doesn't demand women lower their standards. Most male coaches, on the other hand say basically, you need a man so take whatever you get, build him up and stop nagging.

FDS has been an excellent dating source because it's a bit counter-intuitive. The viewpoint is build up your own life and accept only men that you want and treat you well, discard all others.

True, if I wanted to be with a man just to be with a man, I could've done that a long time ago. However, most men don't meet my criteria. I'm not lowering my criteria for any man just to get a man. Men sure as heck won't change their criteria for me. I've lived too long and I enjoy finally fitting in to my own skin to be a chameleon.

99% of men's dating advice creates pickmeishas who contort themselves to please any man. Usually, what happens is that eventually the pickmeisha starts getting real with herself, acting naturally, then things go sideways and worse. It's not actually good for a man who wants a relationship (few), and definitely not good for the pickmeisha.

Hoarse_Girl · 2021-04-15T20:38:07+00:00

Guess he forgot that delightful manosphere quote, "If you want to know how to hunt a deer, ask the hunter, not the deer…" lol he just wishes he could have a bunch of women ask him relationship questions while he pretends they're interested specifically in him. These NVMs are such big babies about being denied the opportunity to indulge their fantasies.

AnniaT · 2021-04-15T22:31:24+00:00

"King that will never come" - sure short receding hairline cheap low effort porn sick LVM redditors don't think that HVM could exist because they think that all men are like them but at the same time "not all men" lol

And the "they hate men" is projection because it's often men who hate or disrespect women in general and sometimes their hate turns violent and traumatizing while we tend to respect and appreciate actual HVM. We hate NVM and LVM scrotes, and if he thinks that all men are like that then yeah we hate all men.

And why would we want advice for men we didn't ask on a sub dedicated to advocate for women's interests? No one asked you for your opinion same as we don't insert ourselves in every male dominated subs or issues. We don't need him to save us and much less that man he mentioned. Die mad.

DontAskTwice-A-Roni · 2021-04-15T21:52:28+00:00

The fatherless men simping for their imaginary internet daddy to come in and save them lmao!

I find it funny that he says he would “listen to women” when he supports Kevin Samuels who doesn’t listen to women and is dedicated his life to attacking them on the behalf of the perpetual male victims who worship him like the cult master he is.

nothing998 · 2021-04-15T21:32:45+00:00

We know what men want, and we don't want to give it to them.

I'm not gonna sacrifice my happiness just to say I have a man.

haggis_rising · 2021-04-15T21:41:48+00:00

Kevin who? Sorry, I don't give two fucks.

Exsqueeze_meh · 2021-04-15T22:09:19+00:00

Men's dating advice: We're too lazy to leave our dumpster. You have to either come here to us with your coochie on a platter or it's not fair.

Suspicious-Leg-1407 · 2021-04-16T00:19:22+00:00

The best advice these guys can give is to ask each other to level up.

adult-level hygiene and grooming
table manners
keeping a clean home and car
basic cooking and laundry
hold down a job and career goal setting
personal goal setting
weight and fitness management
relationship management

I 100% support LV people leveling up. Anyone can do it.

ItsFreezen · 2021-04-15T20:33:36+00:00

Your Not A King. And No We Will Not Date You. Stop asking us.

AyemHerself · 2021-04-15T23:08:59+00:00

"I'd listen to what women have to say"

Refuses to listen to what women have to say

intergalacticanon44 · 2021-04-15T20:35:20+00:00

Fuuuuuuck Kevin Samuels that man is fucking weird😭

missisabelarcher · 2021-04-16T00:02:15+00:00

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Lazy-Design1979 · 2021-04-15T20:46:13+00:00

That's rich...I doubt this dude's ever listened to a woman in his life. Also...what's this bitter loneliness he speaks of? He's contradicting himself: he says loneliness is bitter, but also says if he wanted to attract women he'd listen to them. So is he lonely or is he attracting women?

throwaway1378420 · 2021-04-15T21:05:39+00:00

LMAOOOOO HE THINKS WE WANT TO DATE HIM??? 💀💀💀💀 Only in their dreams would we want to date a male redditor.

IcyBlueQueen · 2021-04-15T22:42:14+00:00

A man? Telling women who aren't interested in him to lower their standards? Groundbreaking.

savagecarebear2 · 2021-04-15T19:23:12+00:00

Omg. The mental gymnastics they must go through to insist we’re a man-hating club are insane. These are men proudly posting subs literally called anti-feminism. IF we truly were the misandrist they claim we are... wouldn’t we call this sub something stupid like... idk... WGTOW XD

fdssavedmylife · 2021-04-15T21:52:59+00:00

We want to date HVM and we’re disgusted by LVM. It’s not complicated. If you’re a man who is scared by FDS, it’s serving its purpose. We don’t want you. okay? Thanks!

Mcccy · 2021-04-15T21:33:27+00:00

Bitter life of loneliness? The projection is unreal ☠️☠️

Chaotic-platypus · 2021-04-15T21:46:20+00:00

These morons make our point for us. FDS "we hate men with shitty behavior." These Clowns: "Well I guess you'll be alone forever cause most men behave like this." FDS "Yeah. We know."

RecordingImportant94 · 2021-04-15T22:14:26+00:00

Not a single woman here wants to date this man, or any remotely like him.

veniphyl · 2021-04-15T23:13:10+00:00

No I don't want to date. I'm fucking happy alone because I love myself so much. Men have to learn to shut their mouthes. The more they speak, especially about FDS, the more pathetic they sound. But I get it, they don't want more and more women to achieve this kind of self-love. They're afraid it will be harder for them to exploid us. And it will be. Go cry about it.

nahradfam · 2021-04-15T20:26:17+00:00

FDS clearly describes the men we don't want. If these guys apply that to #allmen, then that shows the quality of them, their friends and their family.

Funny how quickly they forget their idiotic cry of #notallnen when it comes to actually being expected to hold themselves to some standards.

esoldelulu · 2021-04-15T21:59:33+00:00

So much projection going on in that post.

We’re not hung up on trying to date men. That implies we’re looking for them, prowling. Twisting ourselves to pretzels to ensnare one in between our malicious, witchy thighs. Nope. Men come to us like a moth to a flame, and we just don’t like most of them thus FDS is our upgrade to a bug zapper.

And the audacity is they think we should lower our standards because they assume our standards are unrealistic. We’re not the audience captivated by p0urn that conditions the consumer to be aroused by inflated silicon body parts and bleached hair. We’re not the ones claiming supreme dong, Domhood and locking the unfortunate souls in the bedroom in a chokehold or a surprise pegging in such frequency that this shit is now a meme.

How bout those standards? How is that realistic or you’ve just never had a relationship with a woman who asserted her own sexuality so that you’d actually learn something sexually enticing, ya scrote?

If I want a partner, I’m listening to my fucking self. I know what I want because I lived through trial and error. And I’m saying, no more of this nonsense. No man - NO MAN - is going to tell me what I - A FABULOUSLY, FIERCE, INTELLIGENT WOMAN - deserve. Because your scrotacious perspective is biased towards you benefiting by advising me to go for losers like you who are providing shit with low to zero effort. And I’m supposed to roll in that shit like it’s the best thing ever. Get the fuck outta here.

I think majority of people who are still stuck moping around in loneliness and date with underlying desperation, because they date thinking they still lack and that other person supplements that.

FDS is about being loving and confident to the good people that in our lives without sacrificing our self-worth, leveling up so that women become self-sufficient in ALL aspects in life and not plagued with self-doubt IN SPITE OF the patriarchal organizations in place that employ systemic oppression. We arm ourselves by solidifying our self-respect, confidence, faith and loyalty to ourself and our movement first, so that we can go forward and act with true agency, free choice, and empowerment.

Even though you lurkers don’t wanna hear it, you need to hear it: there’s no woman here who wants to be the one to save YOU from YOUR bitter life of loneliness. Quit projecting your inferiority and get your life together. Don’t come at us for that bullshit.

Lemon_bars_addiction · 2021-04-15T21:50:13+00:00

Spoken like a true lvm

triiiiiico · 2021-04-15T23:22:06+00:00

If I wanted to date women and I wasn’t having any luck, I’d listen to what women have to say because it is them that I want to attract.

No they fucking don’t! Lmao, they say things like “If you want to catch a fish, you don’t ask the fish. You ask a fisherman.” and “Don’t listen to what women say. Watch what they do.”

And then complain when women don’t want them.

Technical_Moth248 · 2021-04-15T23:39:38+00:00

I honestly don't get their problem. If none of us are a prize and we're all gonna die alone, why does it matter so much that we don't listen to them?

Also I really wish the whole "king" thing would die. I never see anyone other than other men and pickmes throwing it at other mediocre dudes. It's cringy and weird. We literally just want y'all to be decent human beings and it makes you mad. It's not hard. Women don't exist to make you feel good.

melonmagellan · 2021-04-15T23:52:26+00:00

Don't worry dude, we do NOT want to date you.

CSardothien_1 · 2021-04-16T00:15:55+00:00

Here’s what I don’t get about these ‘men’ when in reality they are boys in my opinion. If these boys don’t like our rules on this sub or the attitude change we represent in ourselves then why bother with us at all? They bitch, moan, and complain about us excluding them to the point of straight up harassment. Women aren’t bombarding the MGTOW and similar subs in an uproar DEMANDING these boys take advice from women for a different perspective. I personally don’t see women trying to bombard any all boy spaces even IRL. The women of FDS want a high value MAN. Not boys who are still suckling on mommies t*t throwing a temper tantrum because we aren’t paying attention to them. Please leave us women alone, there are plenty of pick-me’s out there to choose from. Being obsessive and clingy is not a good look for you scrotes. So I have two words for them: bye boys! ✌🏻

FDS-GFY · 2021-04-16T01:32:41+00:00

The assumption that because we are Queens we want Kings is Ludicrous.

We want consorts. Like Victoria and Albert. And if you are good we may elevate you to Prince like Prince Philip.

No Queen gives her power away.

chocolatelustpile · 2021-04-15T21:03:36+00:00

But we don't hate all men. 🤷🏼‍♀️

lucidlotus · 2021-04-15T21:55:11+00:00

"Listen to what men want in a partner," he says. LMAO! Half of them don't know what they want or are in denial about what they have to offer.

A HVM looking at FDS would try to understand because he has empathy rather than tear it down.

Crows-and-Ravens0 · 2021-04-15T22:36:09+00:00

Neigh Neigh 🐴

Maybe leave horses alone and respect them? If they kick you there's a good chance you'll be injuried or even dead.

Lesson here: leave horses alone.

ragingchump · 2021-04-15T23:53:10+00:00

From what he has "seen".

Rofl.

This douchecanoe doesnt want to see a pic of me in a 2 peice, holding my masters degree in one hand and my w2 in the other.

There is 0 doubt I am amazing and i am raising a woman to know that about herself.

And i understand that it is terrifying.... suck it.

SpringJonesOcean · 2021-04-16T01:47:46+00:00

Who the fuck is Kevin Samuels? He asked for this guy's opinion? No one wants to date him. No one cares what he's looking for in a partner.

Novemberinthechair · 2021-04-16T03:43:35+00:00

Kevin is a douchebag. No one here cares about him.

No one here has trouble getting attention from men. FDS is a sorting method...not like some trashy, how to pick up women sub. There are no posts on how to pick up men here.

99.9 percent of the internet is men meddling into arenas where women should be sharing notes with each other, not making it easier for men to exploit women.

Self-preservation is sacred here; no male opinions are needed.

We don't need to analyze scrote's opinions of this sub. We've grown up with patriarchal propaganda our whole lives. We got it. This place is about us, not you.

In short, die angry, and stop obsessing over us. You don't have to own everything. No one here is talking to you.

shockingupdate · 2021-04-16T04:25:32+00:00

“How dare they block us men from women’s spaces? Don’t they want to know what WE think? They’re all in there valuing and uplifting each other when they could be listening to OUR advice on how to please US?”

dogfart4 · 2021-04-16T05:05:33+00:00

Honestly, this is what women face in EVERY SINGLE SPACE. Swap the genders wherever one is referenced. This is literally what men do to women and have for an eternity. They don’t like it because we are taking control and beating them at their own game. The reality is women as gender are more self-sufficient than the current crop of men are capable of ever being. So we have the option to date no one because we don’t need a partner to do basic things in our lives.

xdecadent · 2021-04-16T07:43:54+00:00

And Kevin Samuels hates women. Full stop. He gets off on humbling/humiliating women under the guise of constructive criticism.

The thought that we will not engage with anything that doesn’t fit our standards just fries their microchips. The man is short circuiting. Someone get the fire extinguisher.

RojavaLover · 2021-04-16T08:32:31+00:00

This guy is special, lol. I think he has forgotten who has the power of decision making when it comes to relationships and dating. "you are trying to attract US listen to US", how about no? lol

He is the type of LVM who gets a kick out of saying, "these women want us" because it feels inclusive of him and he feels desirable for 2 seconds of his life.

Women want HVM or singledom, no one wants you, Larry. Cringe.

2021-04-15T23:26:06+00:00

Written by a guy no one here would date. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Platipus6 · 2021-04-16T01:13:13+00:00

The only advice I'm willing to listen to men about is this "pick better" thing.

I want a step-by-step guide to "picking better" so I know for sure a man respects me, doesn't watch porn, actually wants a relationship, and isn't an overall piece of shit.

Scrotes are suspiciously silent on this topic.

Oh wait, FDS is telling me how to "pick better" :) scrotes can stay blocked. We're doing it guys! We're picking better like you told us! :)

Revy_Ur_Engines · 2021-04-16T01:55:14+00:00

We already know men don’t have anything good to say based on our dms. And KS is an old man who doesn’t own a home and has abandoned his kid. I don’t get why y’all so concerned with women that don’t want your asses. Let us be “ lonely” and “bitter”. Like damn mind your business 🙄

InterviewImaginary46 · 2021-04-16T02:21:23+00:00

Not saying women are the prize, but men definitely be thirsty for our pussy like it’s water.

deudeo · 2021-04-16T03:29:09+00:00

From a quick google it looks like that Kevin Samuels guy is another redpill quack talking about alpha males and how horrible modern women are. FDS is about women being self-reliant more than finding the perfect guy. Women not being able to open a bank account on their own is still very recent history. Most people’s moms lived in a world like that!? The world is still built around women relying on men in some way.

BasieSkanks · 2021-04-16T08:47:45+00:00

FDS do listen to men. That’s why we are able to call out their bullshit and see them for what they are. In terms of dating, low value men are not the men we want, so why would be listen to them when it comes to finding a man we want to date?

yomommahouse · 2021-04-16T13:44:59+00:00

I couldn't even finish reading that. It's hilarious how emotional men are. Not once in my life have I ever gone to a male sub and felt the need to write out paragraphs of why I'm mad. I don't give one single fuck what men want to do in their own space. LOL...men, the logical sex.

Big-Respond8481 · 2021-04-15T21:27:02+00:00

The very first sentence: This is pretty much everyone whos straight right? Women hate men for their shit and men just hate women.

And oh so bad that women need safe spaces and like to compliment each other. Such women stuff....so weird.

filtered_phatty · 2021-04-15T21:46:54+00:00

They're still struggling with the idea that we are completely fine on our own. Like we have to settle for some stinky sock scrote scratching his balls on our sofa or we'll stay single. The horror.

Hitflyover · 2021-04-15T22:07:14+00:00

dkwantsdk · 2021-04-15T23:22:07+00:00

I'm here for liberation!

2021-04-16T00:06:12+00:00

We don’t wanna attract you, bud

FDS-GFY · 2021-04-16T01:30:25+00:00

This belongs in superfans

mtan15 · 2021-04-16T15:45:14+00:00

We have paid attention to what you want .... that's our problem. Have you paid attention to us?

ChiaraRimini · 2021-04-15T20:59:54+00:00

Newsflash, fella. Any woman can get a date. If she drops her standards low enough.
The point is that we don’t WANT to drop our standards because no date is better for us than a shitty date. We don’t care what you want if you are an LV scrote.

80085-80085-80085 · 2021-04-15T21:19:32+00:00

Lol, nearly downvoted on impulse. "Thinking they alone are the prize." Of course we're the prize. Dick and male energy are worthless and immediately replaceable.

Muffcakelord · 2021-04-15T23:44:51+00:00

Bro did he literally say he'd listen to us?

Is this satire, then? Where the fuck is the listening part of this?

Unicorn_Arcane · 2021-04-16T01:58:51+00:00

Let me highlight this right here. "They should listen to what we want in a partner."

...😒

wonkyeyes8877 · 2021-04-16T04:39:59+00:00

I can't remember seeing any dating advice other than ways to avoid men...

I don't think any of us are waiting for a king. I think most of us are just trying to get away from the scrotes.

xdecadent · 2021-04-16T07:41:34+00:00

Yikes. Imagine being this dusty AND ignorant. Pick a struggle, bruh.

UnstrirringCoffee · 2021-04-16T13:38:30+00:00

Seen? No one is posting pictures here or any identifying information (I hope). This scrote is pulling this shit out of his ass.

Hegemonic_Imposition · 2021-04-15T22:17:55+00:00

All this BS really has little to do with gender and a lot more to do with that fact that some people are just assholes. This tendency to oversimplify complex human emotions, relationships, and social interactions, creates a false dichotomy between the sexes that only perpetrates the very sexist stereotypes it apparently seeks to undermine.

serenelydone · 2021-04-15T22:19:25+00:00

If a man has a problem with women who empower women it means he is the problem.

ENFP_Canadian · 2021-04-16T03:27:08+00:00

We are the prize, this scrote is just mad he can't afford the price of our worth.

Hikari3747 · 2021-04-16T11:42:57+00:00

You can be happy and single. Just because some people can't be alone doesn't mean everyone else can't.

After my last two partners could not handle I was very career motivated and passionate about raising my standards of living and have a rewarding career. I realize that alot of men think and say they want passionate career women, but once she appear. They realize how much work she put into herself and doesn't spend every waking moment with them, making them feel uncomfortable or insecure for some reason.

My career was halted because of LVM. I no longer will care or stop for someone else that isn't my family who understands and support my career drive.

If you can handle my drive and passion and label it has aggressiveness and pretentiousness than that a you problem! I'm assertive, passionate, driven, goal digger and here to slay the world!

Ramauna · 2021-04-16T14:59:10+00:00

They are so bothered that it’s funny

spinsterchachkies · 2021-04-16T17:07:25+00:00

I have listened to what men have to say. I do know what attracts men. I know what men want in a partner. And that is why I don’t like or want to be around men unless he is Hv. They are disgusting people.

GrungeAudrey · 2021-04-16T21:01:17+00:00

Either this guy has the reading comprehension skills of a 6-year-old ( quite likely) ... or he is being dishonest (far more likely) and deliberately misunderstanding us.

No reason to care or explain either way.

shoesfromparis135 · 2021-04-17T05:11:57+00:00

I have no idea who Kevin Samuels is. I’ve never heard this name in my life. I thought it sounded familiar, but then I was thinking of Aaron Samuels from Mean Girls. I was so confused for a minute there.

ComedyCaviar · 2021-04-15T22:00:24+00:00

Shameless plug. Sorry dear poster, we only like Kevin Hicks (as seen from the videos posted here)

Connect-Ad-9361 · 2021-04-17T18:43:31+00:00

sigh

Okay, ill bite. Who the hell is Kevin Samuels?

Title	This is the type of obtuse mentality that I'm referring to when I say "men are committed to misunderstanding us"
Author	myousername
Upvotes	651
Comments	238
Date	April 15, 2021 6:41 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
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