There are many thing in society that benefit men more than they benefit women, so why would is if so unbelievable that the opposite also happens?
When these things are brought to the attention of men where expected to accept them as from a point of privilege its more difficult to see what happens to others. If women understand this, why do they push back so much in the idea that dating may be easier for them.
There’s ample evidence from dating apps that give an insight to how much more discriminatory female selectiveness is and there is an increasing gap between the amount of men who do not find sexual/romantic success and the women that dont.
There is also the rise of Alpha Male/RP/BP mens entertainment or groups whereas this does not exist in women, which would apply one of these groups is much lore heavily affected.
So why do women feel so angry about the suggestion?
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[–]daddysgotanew1 points [recovered] (83 children) | Copy Link
People want to believe that they’ve earned their privileges in life, not handed them
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Just world fallacy
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Imagine being a woman on Adultfriendfinder You'd be like what do i do with all these messages.
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There is more to dating than this.
Women are privileged at this; receiving messages from dudes that want to bang when they are less than 40 yo. Also bang any dude in that time frame.
But this is not all in dating
Finding a valuable mate to stay with and start a family is dating too. And women struggle more than men at this. In fact it's men refusing them this usually, because they don't want to start a family or break up when it starts to be serious.
Also men don't lose all value when reaching 40. Women can barely fuck past this and can't start a family for the simple reason they are sterile.
So each sex is privileged in different dating areas.
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Just like how a lot of people react to the fact that white privilege exists
[–]Blame_the_Muse1 points [recovered] (68 children) | Copy Link
Being used for sex doesn't feel like a privilege to women. It feels much worse than no sex at all
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That’s a straw man. Easy access to sex IS a privilege for women but it’s not the sole privilege. Being pursued, having options, getting constant attention/validation, are all largely female privileges.
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How is that a straw man? It’s literally zero benefit to me that 100 or 1 million guys want to have sex with me, unless I’m in the sex industry. I don’t want to have sex with anyone I’m not attached to. It would be exactly the same if a straight dude went on a gay app and also had a million likes and dudes wanting to f* him. So? What a privilege.
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But women don’t want easy access yo sex. They want a stable life long partner
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Sexless men would pay to be used for sex. Anecdotal fallacy...
[+]Blame_the_Muse1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Women are not men
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That's why I said men would pay for the attention women get for free.... Can you read woman?
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"I hate casual sex and being used for sex. It is extremely unsatisfying for women."
"Oh yes, I have had casual sex like 20 times. Nah, I don't actually enjoy it though."
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So don't let yourself be used for sex?
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But...but then we make dating for men SO HARD!!
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I don’t get this mental gymnastics.
Men: don’t let yourself be used for sex. Don’t be a slut. Don’t hoe yourself out
Also men: why can’t i get laid?
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I haven't done any mental gymnastics. If women aren't having sex, then neither are men. That brings us closer to equity.
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Ah yes. Forgot to turn on my mind reading abilities all women get when we date.
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Maybe make them wait or try to choose better men? I don't know, just a thought. I think if you keep getting manipulated into sex, it says more about your capacity to select good men than it does about the general goodness of men.
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Being wined and dined and not expected to pay, and having your value assigned to your presence.
The point of a date is fir a man to impress the woman. Women decide we get chosen
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You should be trying to impress each other. This isn’t the 50s. Yet women are still expected to do extensive grooming rituals like shaving their entire body, styling their hair and doing their makeup.
Life is just unfair
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Men are also expected to be presentable. Many men just aren’t and wonder why they dont get dates.
And men are still the ones working to impress women. Why else are men expected to pay, plan, and be interesting when a woman is just expected to show up
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You do that to yourselves. That's like saying "men are expected to know their way around a car engine" like, sure, a lot of guys do that, but we do it because we already wanted to. And yeah it gets some women hot to see it in action. But expected is a bit too much emphasis, same/same with the grooming rituals women do. We appreciate when women do it, and some guys go for that, others find it meh or even a turnoff if it's too much. Same/same.
Mostly it happens because y'all want it like that, not guys. So don't blame us for your own grooming habits. That's mostly on you.
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It’s hilarious that you think paying for a meal is on par with women having sex. You should listen to yourself (but I’m sure you won’t lol).
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Literally never said that. Point to me where I said that a man paying for womans meal entitles us to her body.
All im saying is that its an expectation of men that women do not have
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I would love to be used for sex. I call it a privilege
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That's because you're a guy
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So what?
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Same can be said for the many privileges men have
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Such as?
Remember, the ultra elite billionaires that people go on about make up an extremely small percentage of wealthy people.
Men attend college (and graduate) less than women. We’re more likely to die on the job than women. We’re more likely to pay alimony and child support than women. Most suicides are committed by men. Most war fatalities are men. Men on average have shorter lifespans. I could go on and on.
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You can go home alone at night!
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Because they have their own unique problems that make dating a struggle. Because they have access to an unlimited amount of options they are of the mind that they can shop around for the best they can get, this creates an impossible scenario that pushes most women to chase a small subset of very high value men which they inevitably will never get to settle down with(those men have unlimited options). So women are just as angry as men are about dating, just that their problem is entirely different.
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If you're given a hundred options with nearly zero context, you're going to hold off choosing until you see something you really like. Time is limited. Haphazardly make choices as if you were throwing darts is generally not considered a good idea in any scenario.
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So what you are saying is that women standarts create problem for men AND women.
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Well no because majority of men arent technically qualified for this role anyway. Women cant magically become attracted to most men.
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Call me "arrogant" or "bad" if you want, but I strongly believe that a culture that deprive a young man of love and intimacy when he's broke has no right to tell him to be with only one woman when he gets rich after the humiliation and suffering he has to go through.
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As long as a average looking woman isn’t overly fat, she will still pull in many more options than a guy in the same position.
There’s also a reason why many women who date women also agree that it is a lot harder to date women than it is men. Even as a woman.
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Similar reason men get mad when you bring up male privilege. No one likes admitting they have an inherent advantage in something.
[–]imissze90s1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
There is both male and female privilege.
[–]MisterDudeBroGuy1 points [recovered] (17 children) | Copy Link
Male privilege is for privileged males, whom are very few. (the only men women care to think about) Not a single privilege has been given to me for being a man my entire life.
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I’m privileged to be a male. To have the potential to build whatever life I want. It’s amazing.
True women share that same privilege. Though ours doesn’t have a biological imperative. We’re unrestricted. Which truly is a privilege worth embracing.
Godspeed and good luck!
[–]MisterDudeBroGuy1 points [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link
LOL. You do not have the potential to build whatever life you want. That's a bunch meaningless, delusional feel good words, lacking the nuance of one's reality. Which 'self help guru' did you get that from?
Good luck to you too though.
[–]Fragmented791 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
We have some biological privileges (pee standing up, more upper body strength, broader reproductive window) but not systemic ones.
[–]smokewhathash1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Let’s put it this way. You’ve never been followed home by a lady only because your a decent looking guy.
[–]notsofriendlygirl1 points [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
You have biological privileges. You will never have to worry about getting pregnant. You will never have a period or cramps monthly. You are less susceptible to STDs. You are stronger, faster, taller. Chances are sex is almost never painful or never has been.
[–]MisterDudeBroGuy1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I worry about having to getting someone else pregnant, which I do not want, and whether I do or not, I have no choice in the matter after the fact, even if it was her responsibility/fault.
Being stronger, faster and taller has little benefit for most men. It has never done me any real favors, and there is always endless men stronger taller and faster than me, and I'm way more susceptible to men using their stronger taller and faster against me, and more brutally, because I'm a man. Me being expected to use my strength has given me continued back problems for years. Many men have to keep doing labor well into their years, that women do not do. That's not a privilege, it's an expectancy. You being weaker is the privilege.
But all that is pointless anyway...
Here's the better point when it comes to female and male privilege. Women's problems are cared about, and the red carpet is rolled out for them. Men's problems are not, and if we say we have a problem, we are less of a man. Men spend their lives, with their problems and demon's eating away at them till the grave, which happens sooner.
Being a man isn't a privilege. It's a responsibility. And if it isn't treated as such, society will turn it's back on you, despise you, and punish you for it. Not even for being 'bad', but for not being 'good enough.' Your own mother will love you less. Now you know why a portion of men make more money and climb the ladder so hard, or self destruct if they don't. We have no intrinsic value. We are disposable. I'll trade you period cramps for all that.
[–]notsofriendlygirl1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
I’ll trade pregnancy (esp as a black woman bc it’s killing us like crazy) periods, and cramps for all the shit you complain about. I barely like sex and certainly never want for it
[–]Exciting-Necessary-51 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
And you will never get drafted and society will have a natural inclination to protect you.
That's a good deal in my book .
[–]-KiNG-WaVy-1 points [recovered] (20 children) | Copy Link
What are the male privileges in dating or in general life
[–]GGMcThroway1 points [recovered] (19 children) | Copy Link
Physical strength?
Perceived capability?
Perceived as being logical?
Being able to do the bare minimum as a parent and still get showered with praise?
[–]RoseCapone1 points [recovered] (13 children) | Copy Link
This is extremely subjective.
And the others are benefits in life. What about dating?
[–]GGMcThroway1 points [recovered] (12 children) | Copy Link
Being able to be a lazy fuck and have your partner do most of the housework?
Being able to fight off your partner if they don't take no for an answer?
Less stranger danger?
[–]izzzy12k1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
By whom?
I am a single Dad, who gives this praise you speak of?
It is not women, been single for way too long.. Many women run when they find out I have 2 kids living with me, 100% of the time.
[–]GGMcThroway1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Doctors? Schools? Parenting facebook groups? Anywhere involving being (perceived as) an engaged parents? Dads get babied and softballed and offered help all the time if mom's not around to do shit for him.
Women can praise without wanting to date. If they don't want to be step parents (including the part where a disproportionate amount of childcare is dumped on them), that's not a strike against their acceptance of single dads in general.
[–]AtomicMGTOW1 points [recovered] (58 children) | Copy Link
Damn, that shit has been debunked a million times like the wage gap.
http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/searchingfortomsawyer/files/2014/09/tumblr_mx72kvK7aE1sm2yjco1_1280.jpg
Believe me, there's more.
[–]FrostieTheSnowman1 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
When I hear 'male privilege' without qualifiers, I assume people are talking about our perceived competence in the workplace. People have never assumed I had no idea what I was doing just because I'm a man.
There are definitely female privileges too, and I would wager there are probably many more than men have, but to say there is no male privilege is fucking silly.
[–]AtomicMGTOW1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
First paragraph = Nailed it.
Second = not BS but needs more definition. Like wage gap. js.
How about NO CONSCRIPTION or EQUAL CONSCRIPTION. All of a sudden, lots of babies.
For the average person 'privilege' depends on what they consider privilege. Equality doesn't cherry-pick. Womens privilege is cherry-picking.
How about: I'll keep the house, raise the kids, you work and PAY FOR ME.
Women: "Not a REAL MAN."
[–]todo_pasa_1 points [recovered] (50 children) | Copy Link
But the people with more power in the world are men. Do you think that's just a coincidence?
[–]Frydenhaugen1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, the world has been controlled by men since the world exist, I want equality and all, but only an idiot would think that all the power would be balanced in what, 70 years? And I'm thinking from the time where woman at least got the right to vote
[–]None0fYour8usiness1 points [recovered] (43 children) | Copy Link
So all men are priviledged because rich cunts are mostly male?
My sister in christ you need to touch several acres of grass if you truly, actually, unironically believe that.
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It's the other way around. The fact that the most powerful ppl in the world are males is a symptom that there is male privilege. Women couldn't even vote less than 100 years ago... If that's not a show of imbalance I don't know what is.
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Men have privilege for certain things. Women have privilege for other certain things. Everyone keeps turning it into a competition. It's not.
There are advantages and disadvantages for each sex.
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I literally didn't dismiss it. I didn't SPEAK on it, because I'm not a woman. I spoke on MY experience as a man. I never said you didn't experience sexual assault, or that you didn't experience the same shit men do. And you're out here calling me upset, when all I did was speak on an issue men face. I don't appreciate people putting words in my mouth, and I don't appreciate your stupid fucking double-standard.
Don't get all up in your feelings just because I didn't bow to your infinite wisdom ma'am tf
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Yes, I'll proudly admit to being one of those retards who puts facts above their emotions, unlike the enlightened feminists.
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You trying to explain how much being offered McDonalds for every meal sucks to someone who gets to eat once a week.
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Your example isn't equivalent though. It's more like being offered tons of water when you're starving to death.
For most women, having casual sex with random men is about as enticing and/or pleasurable as a straight man being offered tons of casual sex from a gay hook-up app. Why does this keep having to be re-explained?
And no, I don't think women have it harder than men either. In some ways, we have it easier. In others we do not.
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Every single comment by the women here is proving OP right, its amusing to witness..
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How so?
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Women use victimhood as a shield. It’s the same reason why they grow quiet, their eyes glaze over, and they change the subject when you point out that the wage gap was debunked decades ago. Don’t look to most women for truth, reason, or accountability when it undermines their potential victimhood.
This is why it’s so refreshing to encounter women who call other women on their bullshit, like Johnny Depp’s lawyers questioning Amber Heard.
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I find it funny how women are amazingly capable of breaking down a macro idea like this but not the wage gap.
I also enjoy how many posters made it about quality and how it feels vs the quantity and facts. (eg. well if it's good sex... or... if i'm not 'used' for sex (read: doesn't get commitment)
We're just talking STRAIGHT UP ACCESS TO SEX, PEOPLE! That's it. Fuck all this humming and hawing and subjectivity, qualifying and 'whataboutism'.
Holy shit the deflections. Women will fucking argue about ANYTHING that makes life seem easier for them. They fucking LOVE the idea that life is such a difficult struggle for them, in EVERYTHING. They love that victim status. Arthur Schopenhauer (and plenty others) pointed this out. Hell, the fucking bible points it out. But nope, DENY, DEFLECT, DIMINISH, DISTRACT and DAMSEL. That's how women argue. They don't bring actual facts up against the actual argument. They always have to shift it to a place where they can shit on it and discard it. Sounds a lot like a narcissist. Interesting eh?
The Narcissist's Prayer
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
If there's one thing I know about women and narcs is that they WILL NOT EVER let you 'pin them down' (so to speak). They think they're intelligent but no; they're just ambitious with their arguing. Up, down, round and round, over here, over there, you'll never catch me, teehehehe.
Then dudes give up and walk away and they go: What are you, a pussy? Scared? Chicken? I WIN, LOSER, little dick, can't get laid. It's grade 6 in perpetuity.
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Western women are hyper privileged. They not only enjoy an endless list of privileges, they have also the privilege of not having to recognize them, so they can pretend they are oppressed in any way.
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