Female Dating Strategy

ISimpForKweens · 2021-03-22T01:29:49+00:00

I hate how it’s not banned or quarantined while all redpill and blackpill subreddits have been banned or quarantined. I don’t hate that it exists though. The subreddit has helped me become redpilled to say the least.

4D-Alien · 2021-03-22T01:47:04+00:00

i've seen that subreddit and what they say is true to an extent, but a lot of it is just copied incel lingo geared for women. a lot of them are just bitter toxic girls trying to "one up" male incels lol.

what was the other female sub like that was banned? i forgot what it was called. i think those subs should be allowed, just like male oriented equivlent subs. if you have one, you gotta have them all.

NockerJoe · 2021-03-21T06:09:27+00:00

I don't think they're filtering for good men, in the same way you probably won't get a good GF if you follow TRP/PUA and use techniques designed to work on insecure sluts. Demanding a dude pay and initiate all conversations and constantly put on a very specific kind of facade means you're guaranteed to filter for the kind of guy who lies or puts up a front, because nobody is perfect consistently. Or if someone hits those standards genuinely, they probably aren't single for long and aren't going to be investing time and money in the kind of woman that needs FDS.

There are women on FDS who arrived in relationship, and women who arrive single, but very rarely do you see single women get good relationships there using FDS. Because they're filtering for multiple often contradictory things while taking an antagonistic stances that will chase off anyone with even an ounce of self respect.

Laytheblameonluck · 2021-03-21T06:04:55+00:00

This discussion is originally from FDS and is backed up on another site. You should read all the comments.

https://www.removeddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/dkp0l4/make_him_wait_for_sex/

Here's a comment from one of the moderators:

Only a foolish woman would actually tell the guy she’s dating that she’s also fucking someone else, while she’s delaying sex with him. That would be a dumb strategy move. Male insecurity cannot handle that.

Severe-Pirate · 2021-03-21T17:26:00+00:00

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thatguyfromrichmond · 2021-03-21T06:08:18+00:00

They use demeaning language to describe men, and have contradictions where they think a man should pay for every but they don’t believe in traditional women roles

LightOverWater · 2021-03-21T13:43:41+00:00

My favorite part about FDS is how they have no clue what a high-value woman is. Their posts about being a high-value woman are all about being self-centered and have nothing to do with what men desire.

In contrast, TRP identifies in detail what construes a HVM based on what women desire. Then the loudest message in all of TRP is to improve yourself to become a HVM.

SlashCo80 · 2021-03-21T07:56:19+00:00

It's about women improving their own lives and relationships in the same way that the Westboro Baptist Church is about upholding Christian values.

GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B · 2021-03-21T08:27:54+00:00

If FDS weren't a women's sub, it would have been quarantined or banned a long time ago. Toxic cesspool.

Gilmoregirlin · 2021-03-21T14:28:03+00:00

I am female, and One thing that runs strong in FDS that I see is making men wait for sex, and it’s not just there I think a lot of dating bloggers and relationship experts would tell women the same thing. No sex before monogamy, no sex before commitment, etc, wait at least a month or two or three. I understand that perspective but I also think in the day and age of online dating it’s difficult if not impossible to date that way. Most people are having sex by the third date, and sex is a huge part of getting to know whether you are compatible with that person and most people like to figure that out early on. So if you are the woman that is making a man wait for 2 months, unless he really really likes you he is moving on to someone who is not going to make him wait. The other thing is that many men will commit to have sex and then move on, so that’s not really a good strategy per se. I understand that many women feel used for sex. I do think that there are men out there that go on dating sites and tell women they seek relationships with the sole goal of pumping and dumping. But I think by in large most men that say they want relationships do want relationships and having sex is part of them. They act in good faith, but then for whatever reason it does not work out and they end things, and women feel used for sex. Men don’t develop the same emotional attachment as women do from sex and so women do get hurt. Often men see sooner that the relationship is not a good fit because they are not blinded by the attachment whereas women stay in relationships for longer than they should because they are emotionally attached even though the actual relationship is not good. In times past before online dating, men did not have access to the large variety of women and generally women held off on having sex, but now that’s not true. I support a woman’s right to have sex whenever she wants, but in that sense women have sort of screwed themselves by setting a standard for all other women, meaning if the majority of women give it up by the third date, then it’s expected and it puts those that don’t at a disadvantage, barring the couple being ultra religious or something. So the saying with the lottery goes you gotta play to win, you have to have sex to meet a mate. I don’t think making men wait for sex is filtering out bad men I actually think it’s filtering out good men, because the average man is not going to wait. The man that does may actually be the not average man and that’s not often a good thing. He may be sexually repressed or have other issues.

Draegur · 2021-03-21T07:59:35+00:00

I posted this elsewhere, but I feel like this is speaking to the exact same conclusion I eventually came to:

I've somewhat embraced the "no value male" identity

it sounds sad, but,
reality does not owe us gratification.
Radical acceptance has zero-summed it for me.
I didn't "lose" anything, I just ... recognized what I never had.

And now I've moved on.

It honestly took a load of stress off my shoulders. Just kinda' wrote myself off as a loss in the reproductive market and now I'm simply no longer concerning myself with the subject.

I'm free.

I'm free to focus on other things.

If reproduction was the only thing that mattered we'd still be mindlessly rooting around in the dirt doing nothing but eating and fucking like most of the other animals. Instead, humanity learned to specialize.

I have nothing to worry about anymore except whether or not I'm effectively utilizing my own time to refine my own areas of interest. Areas of interest that don't rely on anyone else's approval.

Mustbeaight · 2021-03-21T11:37:00+00:00

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NarniaFox · 2021-03-21T06:06:22+00:00

I don't have problems with them, but I don't really get them either. For an outsider it seems that they want to keep men's traditional role with all its disadvantages for men and get rid of any gender expectations for women. It isn't fait, is it? What are even their justifications for it?

Extremely__Moderate · 2021-03-21T13:34:24+00:00

I don’t have a problem with FDS other than the hypocrisy of it existing. I’ve been there one time to see what it was about and I just said to myself “man, this is so sad”. But you know, I said the same thing about Incel sub too... like “this is so sad”.

I feel bad for people so damaged by relationships or lack thereof.

Banned_BY_SOYMEN · 2021-03-21T06:13:14+00:00

To me, it's really more so the total lack of awareness and lack of coherency on that subreddit that puzzles me.

Like seriously, you're a girl who's going on Reddit (a website literally known for being overrepresented with autists and other social deficiencies) looking for "dating advice", while simultaneously never really discussing an actual strategy (this was perhaps different a year ago or so when the subreddit was picking up). At what point after perpetual intake of copium do you come to the conclusion that maybe, just maybe, you're at least partly responsible for the problems you're having?

On top of this, say what you want about MGTOW, but they are at least more coherent with their intention than FDS is. FDS in terms of post/subject matter is essentially the female equivalent of MGTOW, but FDS supposedly is still trying to ultimately land a "high value man". Like seriously, mirror equivalent of OG MGTOW sub, just cherry pick a few examples of the opposite sex exhibiting a negative behavior, then state "opposite sex is the problem!"

Furthermore, you can't have your cake and eat it too. You see women shaming other women for dating short men or having some other perceived negative feature (they really love to talk shit against handsome men with beards like lmao wat), but then they get mad that attractive men don't commit to them. The amount of 6'2", fit, rich/wealthy, perfect balance of alpha/beta, willing to commit to plain Janes at best are in astronomical scarcity.

Pilling_it · 2021-03-21T10:40:18+00:00

Technically, if I said "date is Dutch", I should be filtering them all. Except that people that need to enforce such strategies are people that have poor boundaries in the first place, and you can suspect either big mental issues, or an understanding of the way humans behave below the average woman.

Then, you cannot do a 180 without getting therapy and your shit together. The thing I'll give their rules is that the ones related to self care are pretty good.

But then all they do is sitting and doing filtering, assuming that the guy is going to do everything no matter what, otherwise he's not worthy of her. Already, you filter for a simp. But the ones confident and successful are going to have options (because the confidence is here, as well as preselection).

I have two big problems with that. One, I get that it's very important to be able to filter since you're going to be pursued as a woman, but if she isn't able to attract him in the first place, it's pointless from the get go. And it's even harder if they're over 30. Poor life habits you had in your 20's are going to show in a way you won't be able to recover compared as if you took care of yourself on your skin and face. So even without the latter, it's already an uphill battle.

Two, men doing the pursuing doesn't mean you're going to get success just by existing. What is she gunning for? What profile these men are the most likely to be attracted? Where do they hang out? You've got to place yourself in their environment. Of course that's done by men, but the "economically attractive" ones are going already going to be pursued. And we're not talking getting just sex here, it's comittment.

Beware also of what other women in your social tell you, because one, the group is going to value consensus over efficiency and have likely way more influence over you than you think, and two, if gunning for an attractive man, especially if you're not yourself, they're NOT your fucking friends.

In short, they try to skip to filtering without all the arduous work before and try to enforce a strategy openly triggering men (which is a good feed for their memes and reinforcing the confirmation bias). But whether it's men or women, you want to not have internalized hate by the time you find the one. So that's going to be a problem.

ComebacKids · 2021-03-21T17:02:26+00:00

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MasterTeacher123 · 2021-03-21T11:41:50+00:00

They’re corny but I don’t care about it. I would never campaign for them to be banned, but that’s my opinion on every sub

R3s0und3r · 2021-03-21T12:08:10+00:00

Don't get me wrong I like some of the things FDS promotes such as being careful, and promoting that a woman should have a spine(because I personally dislike people that don't assert themselves).

I dislike that they spread misinformation on certain topics, they've kind of overcorrected on somethings and often contradict themselves.

What they define as High value is so convoluted that certain qualities are contradicting, and dehumanizing, it's as if to be High value I would almost have to be void of my personality, act as a sort of brain dead butler who has no life outside of his job and relationship to her. As they seem to be very selfish and inconsiderate. They seem to call the men around them broke and low value, but consider this, most people are burned out and stressed due to the job market in its current state but they seem to ignore these factors among other things. They seem to want two things the perks of modern feminism and traditionalism but you can't have both especially with the world nowadays.

They overcorrected by calling guys with certain hobbies low value, she wants him to spend a lot of time with her, a bit too much in my opinion.

They spread misinformation on things such as marriage whereas the divorce laws go in the man's favor which is false I'm assuming they're all from western countries, as it's actually false it's more likely to go in the woman's favor.

Then they talk about "never settle less than what you deserve", which is just narcissistic, there more but let's just leave it ay it's one-sided in some spots, and delusional in others.

An example would be a man who wants to spend a chunk of his free time doing his hobby or with his friends instead of it with her, and they seem to get mad about that. Which is a red flag in my book, and causes them to sound more like a bunch of entitled teenage girls.

Then yesterday I read a post where a member talked about her friend's boyfriend calling him Low value, because he had to do something for work in the middle of their date because it was work critical and it took awhile, now I'm an understanding person and hey it's your job so go ahead just don't take to long. She then goes on a rant and insults him which left me to ask, "what do you hate people that don't want to lose their jobs in an economic crisis?"

Also, they seem to dislike anyone who questions certain aspects, which in my opinion is dangerous, they seem to disprove critical thought and they banned a girl who said: "men can be raped". I find the lack of critical thought to be dangerous in my opinion.

This is why I dislike them they don't allow opposing ideas and even if you mention them you're berated for opposing them.

PokePrincess95 · 2021-04-10T23:28:08+00:00

Can someone recommend a subreddit with all the good qualities of FDS like the support for women and calling out abusive behavior and double standards without the hostility?

WestsideMoonWalker · 2021-03-21T06:09:50+00:00

Lol, that entire sub is a toxic dump. It's literally the same low rent trash that TRP is, except for women.

boomcheese44 · 2021-03-21T07:24:22+00:00

Men don't like to be told they are trash, and most male lurkers see themselves in their LV descriptions.

Entropy212 · 2021-03-21T06:12:36+00:00

Using the whole HVM/LVM thing is insulting to both sexes. It's insulting to men because I believe men are more than the system of values that these women have decided to opt into ,and it's insulting to them because they seem like superficial a_holes.

I'm a feminist but I'm also a humanist. Being mean and self-serving, and being unfair and materialistic (the bad kind of materialist) isn't a good look.

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-03-21T08:32:33+00:00

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aliyah_200018 · 2021-03-21T23:00:26+00:00

My experience with FDS is probably 50/50. I still frequent the sub as i find they do give great advice at times, key here being not always. I think the intent is there, and as a woman who has been abused in the past i fully see why its an important community. I relate it to religion or belief in a way, if it helps you and guides you positively through dark times then by all means embrace it and live by it.

However I do want to note, I am now in a very healthy, loving relationship, and I know that women on there would probably call him LVM and tell me to dump him, and call me a pickmeisha and whatever else. I draw issue with the weight they put on our partners. My Boyfriend provides for me in every single way to the best of his current ability. He is patient and kind and I am so thankful for him everyday. I know that this typically isn't enough for FDS if they are not paying for absolutely everything, if they're not waiting on you and if they, god forbid, initiate sex. When we started dating I would subtly try and use some FDS tactics, and all it did was make me feel uncomfortable and ungrateful, its all very demanding and not always in a good way.

I have high standards, my boyfriend exceeds them. However I am also an adult woman and I understand we are both individuals. I have gone out with men in the past that did everything FDS says they must, I didn't enjoy it. I did not find connection through expensive dates and them always initiating conversation and keeping up this front, I just don't like it. My boyfriend is my best friend, I never thought I would feel so comfortable or safe with another person, I would not change a single thing about who he is or where we are right now, yet to FDS if they are not this cookie cutter man they are not good enough.

MomoKun999 · 2021-03-21T23:08:37+00:00

OP, the fact that you know you have stuff to work on is 65-70% of the battle, and puts you well above the baseline.

username_6916 · 2021-03-22T03:26:09+00:00

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Men don’t care about their children. Most don’t want to actively abuse them but they plain don’t care. They ask for kids to anchor themselves to you and to anchor you down. The only time the do care is during a divorce. And that’s as a tool to hurt and/or control you.

iWatern · 2021-03-21T09:27:21+00:00

One of the all-time high top posts used to be the entire subreddit dunking on a man's audacious tinder profile which was a not-so-subtle persiflage of single moms' OLD profiles. A bit awkward.

HazeYo1 · 2021-03-21T12:01:01+00:00

Two options, Troll or FDS member. They're not trying to make healthy relationships, quite opposite.

Red_Fortress · 2021-03-21T08:52:03+00:00

FDS represents a reactionary turn in the feminist movement that is spreading quickly. This is the same tendency that’s given rise to TERFS, and it might not surprise you to learn that FDS has a low opinion of queer men and transgender women.

Ultimately their message to the world is that men need to stay within their gender roles, or else they’re not deserving of love. Their movement is growing quickly and it’s more than just that subreddit.

I believe this tendency is the next frontier for feminist ideology, and thus Western society as a whole. Men are not going to be liberated from the masculine gender role for a very, very long time.

AttachableSheep · 2021-03-21T09:15:26+00:00

Man hating aside, the sub brainwashes women into dead ends to benefit off their misery. They use pretty much every cult indoctrination method there is out there to rob their members from their identity. They recently launched a patreon. It's literally a cult.

grenadinegarden · 2021-03-21T12:54:43+00:00

So I’ve been wanting to speak my two cents on FDS and this popped up in my feed though I’m not a participant in this subreddit at all:

FDS helped me, personally, a lot. To a point where I’m almost grateful.

When the sub was created/started to gain traction, I was in, at the time, a controlling, emotionally/mentally abusive relationship (that eventually turned physical). I stumbled across FDS and started scrolling, and as I read I began to realize that my own habits, lack of self esteem, and desperation was keeping me in a relationship where I ultimately was not happy. This was some six months before the end of my last relationship - things weren’t at their worst yet, and continually reading through FDS made me realize what I needed to work on within myself and where my standards were falling short in potential partners.

Do I agree with the more extreme sides of things/opinions? Not particularly - because I don’t really line up with them personally (for example, sex on the first date. I’ve learned that if a man wants to hook up and leave he will and it doesn’t matter how long you make him wait. I’ve had a dude lie about saying he wanted to marry me and introduce me to his family just to fuck. My now partner and I hooked up on the first date lol) . Everyone’s different. But I did realize very quickly while just lurking that I had willingly ignored a lot of red flags in my past and wondered why I ended up in such shitty situations and relationships.

Even just employing the strategy of just laying out what you’re looking for early on (“I’m not looking to date casually, I want to get married and have kids, etc”) was something I would have never done in the last because I didn’t want to “drive potential partners away” not realizing that if someone isn’t looking for what I’m looking for, no matter how compatible I think we may be, they’re clearly not for me and I can’t force them into that box.

In any case, FDS worked for me. I left my abusive ex and ended up dating an acquaintance/casual friend of mine (we had been interested for four years mutually but never acted on it), and told him what I wanted from the beginning. he made the commitment to me, and we have recently agreed that we would like to get married and start a life soon, and he will be speaking to my parents for their blessing.

Took less than a year. My ex after three years told me if he accidentally got me pregnant he would kill himself and that he didn’t want to move in or consider marriage.

I think it’s great for the pickmeisha and girls who don’t value themselves ironically. It’s like a super self esteem booster, FDS made me unashamed to be proud and to call myself a queen and be treated that way. I always thought that was “unlikeable” behaviour - turns out the only people who have a problem with standards, don’t want to meet them.

ETA: I actually didn’t pick a “HVM” by the subs standards so maybe I’m more anecdotal because I happen to be the breadwinner but otherwise...

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Shadowgirl7 · 2021-03-21T17:21:37+00:00

I used to be a pick me girl. I grew up being bullied by guys, had a terrible father figure so I thought I had to try extra hard to get male attention and if I did I was so lucky. But then after enough experiences (maybe not that many but maybe I am just too sensitive) with men that I actually liked and that hurted me with their dishonesty, I learned that I don't need to accept everything.

I've been single all my life and nothing bad ever happened to me. When a person I invested in emotionally does someone to hurt me, I get depressed and spend weeks trying to recover from it emotionally while the other person just moves on like nothing ever happened, so when I invest in the wrong person, something bad may happen to me. So yeah, after enough bad experiences, I think it's better to be selective and only invest in people who can actually bring something good to your life. Otherwise, I prefer to be alone.

Fit_Toe_329 · 2021-03-21T12:10:48+00:00

Because the men on here can dish it but they can't take it.

They'll sit around and call women holes and bitches but as soon as women criticise men they get offended like wee little snowflakes.

BlackPorcelainDoll · 2021-03-22T01:06:27+00:00

Idk. I don't care about that sub at all, I've yet to find a use for it or reason to participate.

It is serving some use for other women, so maybe we should all just mind our business.

wordsandmagic · 2021-03-31T14:25:07+00:00

Is a low value man someone who isnt rich? or is it more about personality?

Lokipoki29 · 2021-03-21T11:42:33+00:00

Have you read what they write about short or balding men ? Honestly they remind of the female bullies I had in high school who would say such things to impress my good looking friends

geyejoe7 · 2021-03-21T07:04:40+00:00

It's an echo chamber sub, which allows no men, or women of differing opinions to enter.

It's a pool of women who are very entitled. They often times have things to "offer", that almost no men care about.

Having a career isn't sexy to a man. Yet they portray themselves as HVW for having careers. AGAIN, IT'S HV TO THEM, NOT TO MEN.

A woman having a career is a bonus. It just means more money, nothing special.

To women, men's careers are important and can very well attract women. So they think them having career's somehow makes them more valuable as a partner.

Here are 5 things most important in a woman:

good looks
being feminine (in behaviour and looks)
smart
good sense of humour
genuinely nice and caring

FDS women are oftentimes:

entitled
older
bratty
rude
don't give explanations to the men they reject (just ghost)
reject men for absolutely ridiculous reasons
want "equality", but don't wanna pay on any dates because that apparently means he doesn't like you

I could name 10,000 more negative traits, but to save time, I just named a few.

DevilishRogue · 2021-03-21T14:18:16+00:00

What is wrong with FDS is the gender hatred and the fact that what they are advocating yields the opposite of their intended result as they price themselves out of the market (resulting in ever greater gender hatred). The sense of unearned entitlement is also very ugly.

Demasii · 2021-03-21T11:14:47+00:00

I don't understand why it's terrible either. It's mostly funny memes the last I checked it out. There was a anti-porn post or two. The few discussions I read had advice that were actually pretty good.

MOONWALKllN · 2021-03-21T06:24:27+00:00

women there think men should be there slave

profane77 · 2021-03-21T11:18:12+00:00

As a man, I agree. I would never date someone with their attitude towards life and relationships, so I don't care whether they consider me HV or ZV. And they helped me understand the needs of my GF better and become a better partner. Like I never thought that flowers would be important for modern women. However, after seeing so many posts on FDS about this, I brought some home. She was livid and visibly happier for about a week, so I turned it into a routine. A bouquet every week.

There were some really misandric posts about male victims of domestic abuse being a myth and stuff like that, but in overall their hatred towards men is pretty mild and mostly justified, especially considering that many of them have endured horrific abuses from their partners. If anything, the most problematic part of the part of the sub is their rampant misogyny and them calling any woman who does not have the same priorities as them a pickmeisha.

opistrue · 2021-03-21T09:25:32+00:00

the only problem is that this subreddit is heavily guarded by the propaganda

the male equivalent of such subreddit would be banned in no time

seriously.... FDS will result in actual violence sooner or later. For example, some nasty girly violence like poisoning somebody or killing somebody in his sleep.

where are the heuristics now?

Why they are protected?

RAINNlevi · 2021-03-21T11:56:51+00:00

look on the bright side, FDS people are never gonna find someone and have kids. its a great benifit to the world that these people wont raise kids cuz those kids are gonna be abused or turn out to be shitty just like their moms.

DynamicCrab · 2021-03-21T13:43:57+00:00

What is so terrible about FDS?

They claim to be '' strong independent women '', but also expect men to pay for their entire meal and if he doesn't, he's a " LVM ". Is that enough of a reason?

Dominemm · 2021-03-21T14:51:57+00:00

I’ll be devils advocate!

Used FDS when the sub first got underway, got a Boyfriend who I’m still with and actually very happy with.

So it’s gotten very bitter with content lately. But if you are an anxious dater like myself, yes it was better for me to wait a while before I had sex with my current boyfriend because I wasn’t interested in becoming a clingy mess after sex three dates in.

Yes, I let my boyfriend do most of the initiations in the early days, because I am again ,an anxious dater, and I hated sending a text having it go unanswered and falling into a “he hates me, I’m annoying spiral”

Yes, my boyfriend Still pays for 90% of our dates. That a holdover from my parents way of dating and both my mom and my dad were very insistent that that dynamic is the best one, and they have the best marriage I know. Plus he just does it, I never really asked him to pay for the dates, and he gets weird if I insist, tbh.

It’s the very best relationship I’ve ever been in, I’ve relaxed on all the initial rules, and me and Mr. Dominemm have an easy partnership.

FDS popped up because women kept getting into bad situations and didn’t really know how to fix it. If you’ve dated loser after loser, your getting older, and subs like this only advice is “Don’t Date Chad”, women are turning to advice that their moms and grandmother gave, which is just repackaged for FDS.

You can’t do EVERYTHING. But if you take the pieces, you can get a good man, at least in my experiences.

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-03-21T05:57:13+00:00

I mean the same things that are annoying about most of your modern-day misandrist feminists, you can enjoy them if you want nobody's stopping you there, it's good for a few laughs.

I've even heard the argument they share a lot in common with the mgtow / red pill community, I won't fully disagree with that, the fundamental difference is the latter two ideologies usually advise men to stay away from marriage and cohabitation, the point of fds is to actually encourage marriage 🤣🤣🤣, the real funny part is one of their rules is to just straight up lie about their body count to their significant other, so on some level that at least lets me know that they know their ideology is bullshit and not to take them seriously

Radiant_Bliss · 2021-03-21T10:43:08+00:00

Smart men and women will go their own way and avoid this mess altogether.

Xena66 · 2021-03-21T21:54:04+00:00

I’m a woman and a sex worker and hate that subreddit. They hat e sex workers and they hate trans women

Sid_Insidious · 2021-03-21T22:22:58+00:00

FDS is low value women trying to WILL high value men into their lives by being fickle and sexless. It's really about as pathetic (and effective) as PUA.

There are no tricks one needs to entice a high-value partner. Just be high-value yourself.

Step 1: Lean the the difference between "queen" and "queen-sized".

If these women cannot get high value men, it's not because "men are pigs" or other reasons they will offer. It is EXCLUSIVELY because they are not high value women, or have simply over-estimated their SMV/RMV.

boomershack · 2021-03-21T08:38:58+00:00

They're all salty, regretful, old and in debt. It's good ass content.

420allavodka · 2021-03-21T16:39:10+00:00

I love how FDS has you emotionally manipulative, lying, future domestic abusers’ shit stained boxers in a bunch

Commitment69 · 2021-03-21T16:44:48+00:00

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SeaLevelIQ · 2021-03-21T13:34:20+00:00

They're full of contradictions and inconsistencies, but there IS one thing that they're consistent about and that is disliking men and finding reasons to dislike men. The last time I checked FDS, the 80/20 rule was trendy to discuss at the time. There were two posts that sticked out the most to me (both posted on the same day 4 hours apart). One was about how men are idiots for believing the 80/20 and they are never to be taken seriously. The other was about how the 80/20 was true and that it proves women are so much better and more valuable than men. Both of them were among the top posts.

It's never about making sense or making a point, the only point they're interested in is: men bad, women good. Stuff like this can sometimes be posted on r/FDSExposed. It's nothing but screenshots of FDS and making fun of their blatant inconsistencies. FDS listed it as a hate sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/BanFemaleHateSubs/comments/ij7j1c/female_hate_sub_megalist/. Scroll down to "harassment/circlejerk subs" list to see it. You might also notice r/m4aledatingstrategy on the same list. It was literally just FDS posts, but they replaced the words "men" with "women" and vice versa. Oh the harassment. Women can truly never be safe on reddit :(

Psychological_Bid143 · 2021-03-21T09:23:39+00:00

What I’d like to know is the female equivalencies of male social hierarchies. We know established research provides evidence on different types of males (alpha, beta, sigma, etc), but there isn’t any research on female hierarchy types. Are we to just assume all females are the same unless their experiences of different male hierarch-types determines their social behavior and preference?

Ill-Parsley-2473 · 2021-03-21T22:32:36+00:00

Nothing wrong with it if you also accept theres nothing wrong with the redpill and incel subs on reddit as well

ConsultJimMoriarty · 2021-03-21T23:28:21+00:00

I think it's because the kind of women who post on FDS and take it seriously are a very small minority.

I would say a fair proportion of people subbed there are just having a good sticky beak. I used to sub to r/braincels for the same reason.

anonymouscausefuckU · 2021-03-21T23:58:34+00:00

It’s the exact, on-the-button female equivalent to the red pill.

I don’t hate it either. I don’t hate anything; hatred is irrational and has no utilitarian value to me.

But it is eye-opening as a guy, for sure. It justifies and legitimizes everything that TRP claims in its entirety.

TRP wouldn’t exist without FDS, and FDS wouldn’t exist without TRP. Men’s and women’s interests don’t always align. Conflict is part of life. Simple as that. No use complaining, just take note and move on.

blueXcat · 2021-03-22T00:09:39+00:00

I so don't agree

I've been abused, and this sub has nothing to do with just getting in healthy relationship

They are way too much obsessed with Money. Men are just wallets

Then they don't even want to be exclusively dating a guy and he's supposed to just pour money in them

A hvm to them is way too much about money

I had to discover what attracted me to assholes and what assholes found attractive in me to break the cycle. Money isn't it

SeemedGood · 2021-03-22T00:40:56+00:00

What is so terrible about FDS?

Nothing.

It’s a revealing blessing in disguise for men with limited opportunity to interact with women.

Robotemist · 2021-03-22T07:29:54+00:00

FDS isn't concerned with getting women in relationships or marriage. It's a front for women to encourage the exploitation of men who they don't deem worthy while they wait for a high value man. The reason why every piece of advice is essentially cutting and blocking every man off for every minute reason is to reinforce the idea that the average man disposable.

michael1962-01 · 2021-03-22T07:51:49+00:00

Nothing 4 u. Ur filtered on day 1.

So you don't need to dine and whine with a Kweeeen.

bosslady1491 · 2021-03-26T20:31:54+00:00

I'm a single woman and FDS was useful for me to realize when i was making some bad decisions like being interested in guys who werent into me.

i think i needed a harder taskmaster to stop me from dating idiots and I learned a lot on how to make sure i wasnt going to get hurt on fds.

having said that , most internet content is written by western people and I am from India

i cant follow rules on fds because they don measure up as chivalry or decent by Indian norms.

like i d rather not date than let someone , a total stranger ,pick and drop me.

or pay for my dinner or

do a first date as dinner date because i wouldn't be able to endure that.

a first date better be coffee coz i dont have time to suffer an entire dinner if its not going well.

even if the guy paid for the meal, eating out in india is not so expensive that i d call it as some great act of chivalry and if it is an expensive place for him, most indians would be uncomfortable letting the guy pay. usually expensive dates are not thing.

so a. lot of fds content can be interpreted for one s own relevance.

but the basic rules of not going behind the guy, waiting till he shows interest and takes effort was a good support system.

sicksvdwrld · 2021-04-07T04:48:13+00:00

The sub reads like an incel forum. Embarrassing.

2021-05-19T15:36:39+00:00

I mean honestly I thought the same thing about it, but as someone who knows women consensually in sex work they inherently think sex workers are negative. They claim to be sex positive but shit on women for not having the same preferences as them. Like I think they should have a space to share their opinions and I genuinely think some things are funny as well. But as a woman I asked one question on their view of sex workers and I got banned :) nice

rsoko2 · 2021-03-21T16:08:46+00:00

There really isn't anything so terrible about FDS. Yes, every once in a while you get a toxic person or post but that's about it. A lot of the comments that seem nasty or cruel is truly just humor.

TRP men literally joke about genocide, rape and murder and say "calm down, you cant take a joke", but let a woman make a joke about a balding man and its "look at these heartless bitches".

Another main reason that I don't view FDS as being toxic at all compared to a lot of subs in the manosphere is because the manosphere is very dedicated to AWALT philosophy. While FDS very clearly acknowledges and encourages good men, many red pill philosophers essentially view all women the same regardless of her character or morals.

The "if she breathes she's a thot" mentality is a real thing and any man who preaches AWALT really doesn't have much of a leg to stand on to call FDS toxic.

angels-fan · 2021-03-21T16:22:29+00:00

Don't confuse the strategy of FDS, which actually has some pretty good advice, with the batshit crazy posters there.

Same with TRP. Most of the TRP advice is good advice. It's the idiots in the sub that turn it into a misogynistic shithole.

sweatyapplejuice · 2021-03-22T00:00:53+00:00

they just can't stand facing the fact that most TRP (if not all by definition) are below FDS's standards. because men's standards tend to me more like "as long as she's not ugly" or any other statement that has to do with looks, while women's tend to be looks as well, but ALSO things like "responsible, loyal, caring, patient, has his shit together, etc". and men can't imagine having standards that high because 95% of what they care about is physical attraction.

flapperfemmefatale · 2021-03-21T07:28:29+00:00

Never been there, but they seem about as dumb as TRP.

Mustbeaight · 2021-03-21T12:16:03+00:00

Lol the people equating FDS to TRP are a bit slow... it’s a false equivalence.. TRP strategy will 100% work on an FDS girl but FDS strategy will never work on a TRP guy And it’s really telling that every time a woman is misandrist..everyone runs to her defense saying how it is justified because she’s been hurt by men before..so it’s act men’s fault she’s that way But if a man is misogynistic it’s his fault.. and he’s a horrible horrible person

2021-03-21T12:31:43+00:00

As a guy, I'm not sure why people are losing their shit over this.

And lets be honest, its easy to filter out FDS types anyway with their whole expecting a man to date and throw money at them for 6 months before considering sex. Of course, this strategy helps them lock down beta simps quite easily.

Also, none of this is new. Feminism has been round for ages so and has women slagging off men. Also this is just a rehash of the "The Rules".

All in all I find it kinda funny, especially when they started buying themselves engagement rings.

ThrowawayCOVID999 · 2021-03-21T17:14:33+00:00

Some of them have kids. Imagine getting constantly yelled at about rape culture or the patriarchy or whatever when you’re too young to understand what sex is

Potatoe_Soup · 2021-03-21T19:34:06+00:00

Half the shit sounds dope but a lot of the other shit is really sexist and cringe. I just follow for the entertainment lmao

jayda92 · 2021-03-21T14:39:11+00:00

You're completely true. And realizing you have a lot of work to do is a VERY high value trait! Never dismiss yourself too soon.

Most men want to invade our spaces and call us misandrist/entitled because we set the standard high for ourselves and for others. It's always more easy to start demanding that the bar should be lower, than it is to actually work to achieve those standards.

It doesn't have (only) to do with wealth, or looks. And that's what makes it hard for the RP/pilled/incelcommunities. There is no trick or shortcut to blindsiding women into believing you're a really good human being, unless you're a real good human being. And that's why they can't cope, try to evade our spaces and harass us IRL or online. They're afraid too many women will follow FDS and it will make their 'PUA style' approaches very unrewarding.

My fiance and I are extremely happy together, and setting FDS standards helped me so much. He hasn't fucked up once in years. He's so kind, loving, generous while still being an awesome man. Those years with him are a few of the happiest years in my life. He's the first one accepted by my father.

u_hit_my_dog_ · 2021-03-21T11:44:44+00:00

Simp

daniellederek · 2021-03-21T12:55:19+00:00

I honestly feel bad for a lot of them in their circle jerk of a sub.

I'd guess their average reader is mid 30s, with 1 or 2 bastard children. She has a decade long hole in her resume following an entry level job post college which was arts or soft sciences. Communications, business managment, psychology etc. She still carries student loan debt and a not inconsequential amount of consumer debt.

She was hot stuff 10-15 years ago men fell over her and looks won her a lot of opportunities back then. She's now eaten herself to a BMI equal to her age.

Now she feels she is owed a "real man" to sweep her off her feet and be fine being number 5 in her life after the kids, cat and her aging mother.

He best have 2 million net worth 6 figure income. Live at the gym when not at work....

She's just delusional. That man will find a mid 20s woman who just got promoted past the entry level job paid down her college loan has no kids and is friendly to him at the gym. Like attracts like. She will never consider the single dad homeowner across the street 2 houses over who drives an 09 Carolla. He's boring.

wtknight · 2021-03-21T13:30:26+00:00

It's not terrible. It's the female equivalent of TRP. Men just don't like it because most men don't take criticism well. Any post on this sub that is generally critical of men gets treated the same way by the men here.

I don't like FDS because I think that, in general, the sexes should be compromising rather than at constant war with each other, but I have less of a problem with FDS than I do with TRP, because I can at least agree with the goals of FDS (having a good relationship), and I don't agree with the most often stated goals of TRP (improving oneself enough to be able to plate women).

MysteryMuhammad · 2021-03-21T13:39:34+00:00

The redpill is lawful neutral with lawful evil leanings while FDS is firm neutral evil with their hyper selfishness, rudeness, and lack of principles.

Hoopy223 · 2021-03-21T14:20:29+00:00

Its the Female version of Incel/Redpill/Blackpill all rolled into one delusional mass of stupidity.

Det_Steve_Sloan · 2021-03-21T09:41:32+00:00

What is so terrible about FDS?

Arrogance to physical ugliness ratio of their users really hurts my brain. FDS users are 2/10 hambeast feminists brainstorming ways to find 9/10 men. This ain't supposition, have you seen the pictures that circulated TRP subs?

LightOverWater · 2021-03-21T08:56:19+00:00

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Guapscotch · 2021-03-21T10:26:21+00:00

took a little dive into there a few months ago. alot of what i read can be chalked up as toxic and heartless. some of these people aren't looking for love or affection from someone who deeply cares about them, they're looking for everything under the sun but that. This extends beyond FDS and lots of corners of the red pill community, and honestly most of society in general imo has become radicalized in this weird dating world we live in today.

good natured, grounded people just want someone who accepts them and sees them for who they are. people just want to be loved for what they are, for people to see the value in them. alot of the people that visit FDS or the more intense sections of the red pill community or even some people that frequent here have been hurt immensely by someone or maybe they never got to experience genuine, beautiful love and become resentful and figure there is some catch or it's all a sham. so they try to convince themselves it's all a game, they even got the qualities of a person shrunken down to stock terminology like market values, and depreciating assets or some other nonsense.

John_Oakman · 2021-03-21T10:52:10+00:00

It's envy along with a dash of crab mentality. People just don't like seeing other improve their lot in life in unconventional ways.

Also the same reasons that people hate RP despite it works.

sleuthoftrades1 · 2021-03-21T14:15:30+00:00

Have you ever considered that the reason you don't understand is BECAUSE you are a LVM?

BrosForAll · 2021-03-21T15:36:49+00:00

They would consider most men, as in men that earn less then 100k a year LVM.

SUEDE2BLACK · 2021-03-21T23:02:52+00:00

My issue is those women shouldn't be dating they are damaged asf they all need therapy they should just go WGTOW and not deal with men at all.Those aren't dating strategies alot of it is just crazy.

It's should be called female manipulation and dumping all their baggage on men strategy.

And for all their talk about high value. How many of those women are actually high value how many of them are fit feminine, cooperative,suck dick and swallow.

That's what makes a woman high value not her PHD not being a CEO,men don't care about that.Men don't want to come home to a boss independent bitch.Im generalizing and I'm sure there are a few simp low quality men that are into that but the majority dont.

We want attractive as in not overweight, fat,bbw no unadressed mental traumas and psychological disorders.The women of FDS belong rite there with ther cats,dogs, vibrators and their PHDs.

But I like reading it a reminder to stay MGTOW for life if anything,oh and before everyone starts screaming incel incel woman hater. I have had plenty of GFs treated them well.I left all if them except one, she cheated and stuff so I ended it but the act of cheating was her way of ending it...and I like women have nothing against them personally and need them for human sex,I voted for Hillary. I just don't want to marry one or get one pregnant.

Thank you femaledatingstrategy I have taken your advice and I stay away from women except for escorts but they're kool like that.

2021-03-21T14:30:24+00:00

People hate hypocrites.

All men related material is banned, demonized and persecuted.

SaBahRub · 2021-03-21T14:57:51+00:00

Because when you’re used to supremacy and catering, disdain, criticism and independence/indifference feels like a vicious attack

Having said that, the actual strategy they follow doesn’t sound effective to me. That’s the only reason I’m not a member of that sub

Safe-Criticism2984 · 2021-03-21T16:23:29+00:00

Any ladies reading the comments? So far I’ve come across a man who said he will never pay for dinner, a feminist can pay her own meal. And that FDS is the playbook of lower class women 😂

Omario6 · 2021-03-21T10:26:34+00:00

i did not read your post, but i knew it would be a bullshit judging by the first sentece lol

femalekramer · 2021-03-21T15:59:06+00:00

Those women are absolutely fucked and almost as bad as most MRAs edit: or worse than a lot of them

OXOzymandias · 2021-03-21T12:28:52+00:00

I have no issues with them tbh, like the idea of fds, everything is great to me, the supporter are highkey cringey but the sub and the goal and bla bla seems alright

As long as they get what they want, i dont see the bad in it

Matt_Door · 2021-03-21T13:53:06+00:00

I don’t pay FDS anymore attention than i have to. I’m not the type of man they want, they’re not the type of women I want and frankly I doubt we’re ever in the same circles where we’d meet. Means nothing to me

vial_of_music · 2021-03-21T15:09:01+00:00

my thing is that they love vanilla sex and hate porn absolutely, and other women who also engage in those activities they very much hate on and instead of a sub that’s supposed to “uplift the queens” which is good, they slander you and act like there’s something terribly wrong with you as a women who decide to maybe pick and choose some of the FDS lifestyle. i also don’t like the “how to get him to marry you asap” aspect of the sub like wtf is that? at first i was definitely on board for FDS but overtime the sub is increasingly toxic and the exclusive to women who fully live their rules

reaper555 · 2021-03-21T15:58:28+00:00

They straight up hate men on that subreddit. Yet they still pursue men. Men are not going to conform to your twisted version of how a man should be. No man is going to conform to you boundaries. They’ll just walk away. No self respecting man will fall for female manipulation tactics. They really think men are that dumb.

Also I think all of this man hating fits with the feminist narrative that they are governed by tyrannical male patriarchy. And that life is just a struggle of power not cooperation and competency. There is no individual man just a subset of violent, sociopathic men. Good luck in the dating world.

At first I was angry at their posts then I just felt sad for them. You have to be a pretty miserable person to post hateful misleading things. It’s pathetic.

GunsnOil · 2021-03-21T16:18:49+00:00

It’s interesting seeing how negative, bitter and angry subreddits like FDS, TRP, and MGTOW are. I would really advise all men and women from following those movements. There is a positive direction that both men and women can take so as to create win win situations for everyone. That does not include these social networks which focus on the negative aspects of the opposite sex, on how to “game” the other person while being unfaithful and sleeping on the side, or on being extremely self-centered and not working on bettering yourself. Gender relations seem to be at a real low point but everyday is an opportunity to turn it all around! Men and women can figure this one out but it ain’t gonna be easy. God only knows the much more difficult situations we’ve been able to solve in the past.

xFallacyx69 · 2021-03-21T17:26:51+00:00

Like TRP, nothing is wrong with the sidebar. The community is toxic.

Also, don’t let someone else determine your value... ever. That’s some sexist shit.

At least TRP stresses making yourself better to find better relationships. FDS seems to think being toxic and seeing everything they don’t like as a red flag is “healthy”. If you truly think nothing is wrong with them you’re going to have a tough time dating.

The nastiness they show towards men that never did them wrong is just hypocrisy and a massive cope.

In conclusion, I could care less because any self-respecting dude wouldn’t put up with their shit for more than a second... and any “HVM” they claim to have gotten with their tactics is most likely just an unaware traditional dude who would’ve priced himself out of a better chick anyway...

nacho-chonky · 2021-03-21T18:59:54+00:00

Lol bullshit and abuse, I’m a man and I can double their stories they got about being abused except mine was by women, guess what? I don’t go on sexist rants online, (they do)

ChiBron86 · 2021-03-21T19:27:47+00:00

Just browsed over there for a few minutes for the very first time.

Pretty much came off as the female version of MGTOW. Just a lot of hate and bitterness. I interpreted it as LVW venting over being treated by men as....well, low value. So it's essentially a place for women to come to terms with their own mediocrity.

Didn't see any similarities with TRP - which is primarily about male self improvement and the role it plays in getting women. In FDS you are already.....uhh.....'speshul'.

RRBeachFG2 · 2021-03-21T19:30:15+00:00

You won't see "He proposed!" threads on FDS, where as they are peppered all over RPW subreddit weekly.

Puzzleheaded-Dark-30 · 2021-03-21T20:39:01+00:00

The problem is they are ugly women themselves usually over 30 who want to settle with high value men by the look of the subreddit. They are low value women larping as high value women effectively. The sub reddit is a massive larp. If you saw them in real life you would laugh.

bowserfire73 · 2021-03-21T20:41:42+00:00

They think they deserve a high value guy without being high value themselves. Its a sub full of entitlement.

Whisper · 2021-03-21T21:39:00+00:00

There's nothing terrible about bleach so long as you don't drink it.

BackwardsHouse78 · 2021-03-21T22:12:54+00:00

I do like their humor. Calling us “scrotes” is a decent insult that doesn’t bother me.

The nastiness they exhibit, though it’s clear where it comes from, is bad optics and self defeating behavior. Regardless of what shitty thing happens to you in life the best reaction is to rise above the negativity and act as the better person. Giving in to your anger will turn away people who could be good for you.

I hope they are improving their lives and developing healthy relationships but that’s not the atmosphere you get when you’re on their subreddit.

2021-03-21T23:28:27+00:00

Good post. The nastiness is all the bigotry they write. But what's good for the goose is good for the gander, no? Bring back all those nasty misogynistic subreddits so. Oh wait. The murders.

So we've got ourselves a good ole' ethical dilemma. Or maybe we just eschew principles. Lol principles , what do we need them for? Let's just elect a wise Elder who will decide who lives and who dies based on a whim. I think Bush spoke well for America after he was elected that second time, and continued torturing people in really, the most horrific ways - waterboarding wasn't the half of it - when he said "you're either with us, or you're with the terrorists".

It was typically uninspired prose, but the message was received. Bigtime.

throwthisaway11800 · 2021-03-22T13:03:01+00:00

I dont think the ladies of fds fully understand that men reading that subreddit will get even more to the manosphere, which will just further create more men that they don‘t want

IOportA · 2021-03-22T18:29:03+00:00

When I first read FDS I was a little triggered.

Then I realized its just fat women dealing with broke men and it all made sense.

Many of the women on there are not interested in dating men and are only there to hate them, so its really female hating strategy, but I just chuckle at how ignorant they are.

JourneyofRedpill · 2021-03-23T14:37:59+00:00

If FDS is okay then why shouldn't Red Pill be okay? FDS actually seems worse, Red Pill is making a man the best he can be and not expecting a high-value woman until he himself is high value. FDS just think they are amazing and high value without actually putting in the work to be the best they can be and seem like they are angry and bitter at men.

InterviewImaginary46 · 2021-03-24T22:28:45+00:00

Written by an incel.

Less-Ad9600 · 2021-03-25T11:43:08+00:00

Young and attractive women don't need dating strategies.

PM_ME_STRIPPERS · 2021-03-27T04:20:12+00:00

fucking yikes, you have just been attacked by the halo effect.

Because i honestly doubt you are fine with similar attitudes on posts that men make about women? ( incels, sexually frustrated guys etc)

ffandyy · 2021-05-11T10:22:48+00:00

Humour? FDS is one of the most toxic and hateful subs on reddit

2021-05-17T18:45:34+00:00

what is a lvm.

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INSERT_USERNAME___ · 2021-03-21T16:56:57+00:00

It’s a woman-led version of Red Pill Women. What concerns me about the sub is that lonely, insecure women will find the subreddit and learn a toxic mindset that hurts them and everyone they know.

Goodthingstartssmall · 2021-03-21T17:00:36+00:00

Just like TRP it's some rare good valid points surrounded by a mountain sized chunk of utterly bullshit and (insert any insult you want here). Although TRP don't overblow the hate to this extend and less frequently and calling themselves failures that need to improve instead of kings.

Like Batman said in the dark knight movie. "He has a schizophrenic personality disorder, the joker is drawing these types to himself". So it's FDS and TRP, some people with (self percieved) bad experiences are drawn to it. I've shown my GF FDS couple weeks ago and it made her so angry she almost punched the monitor, it's also only a small subset of women who will (hopefully) never be long in a relationship.

2021-03-21T17:50:00+00:00

At what point does the “humorous” brand of nastiness cross over into bitterness and resentment? It seems like they’re genuinely hateful towards men for whatever reason. I’ll grant you that we can really screw things up with women, but accentuating the negative and seeking out misery is never really a good option lest you want to wallow in resentment and never actually figure out what got you there and how to move forward.

They also have nonsensical stereotypes developed from a combination of shitty ex-boyfriend stories, by observing the worst of men on social media, and memes. It runs on this completely internally justified circular logic that tends to really shatter once they start talking to individual men and find out that no, their memes didn’t really have them all prepared for that.

The “strategies” are less about how to develop yourself to be ready to attract men and function in a mutually-fulfilling relationship, and more so how to emotionally build walls and assert a boastful “queen” aesthetic without any real merit to back it up, which in turn encourages extorting maximal short term gain from a man rather than anything mutually beneficial. It’s emotionally distant, overly judgmental, bratty, and unendingly narcissistic.

In FDS the dreaded pedestal returns in all recrudescence, only the women of this pill are placing themselves on it, and one should imagine a gold spray-painted throne of papier-mâché holding a smudged self-portrait made in MS Paint rather than anything ornate.

Tl;dr: FDS is not really based in anything real, just meme-grade stereotypes and it’s more likely to turn you into an arrogant bitch who blames everyone else for her problems than face any real character development. Same problems as red pill but gender-flipped, and at least red pill pretends to be self-help.

Ok_Swim_2691 · 2021-03-21T19:44:45+00:00

The humor is funny to me, especially stuff like "things scrotes say". The nastiness they display towards men seems like the natural result of being fed up with bullshit and abuse. The overall intent seems to be to improve their own lives by either forming satisfying, healthy relationships, or remaining single.

The same could be said about MGTOW/TRP/WAATGM but it's misogyny when men make a corner to talk about their issues/laugh at women(I'm not talking about shooters).

The problem is the double standard.

TheConsumateCracker · 2021-03-21T20:19:52+00:00

FDS is both an action and a reaction: What came first? The chicken or the egg? What came first? Men dropping leadership or women picking it up? God created man first and gave him dominion over all of the earth before creating his help-meet, woman. When left alone, the woman was deceived first, but oh look, Adam was right there. Man was passive, man did not come to woman's defense. Yet, you can also say with Eve knowing Adam was head over her, woman lusted after the authoritative headship position and did not go to man for help and representation.

So is women being masculine independent queens what they wanted and pursued in the first place from the very beginning, or is it a reaction to men being passive, lazy and weak assholes?

It doesn't matter which came first.

Make your world better by obeying God's intentional and healthy designed commands.

Mayhem977 · 2021-03-21T21:22:25+00:00

I don’t listen to anything on FDS because if you had a clear understanding of female nature, you would realize that women will never use the games that FDS promotes on men they find attractive. The FDS only applies to average men with an average income. Women wouldn’t play this much games with the men they actually want. That’s why I say it is a bad sign if a woman is shit testing you or leading you on. Women will never dangle the prize in front of the men they actually want only to pull it away when they reach for it.

asdf333aza · 2021-03-21T22:02:14+00:00

The humor is funny to me,

Some of them are dead serious.

The nastiness they display towards men seems like the natural result of being fed up with bullshit and abuse.

Every one thinks they're being abused. It's the victim Olympics out here. Why do you think they are being abused? Maybe just maybe they were the abusive ones? Maybe they are the ones who are always bullshit. If they keep having bad relationships the common variable is them.

The overall intent seems to be to improve their own lives by either forming satisfying, healthy relationships, or remaining single.

healthy relationships,

So healthy by claiming to only date men who are 6ft and above with 6 figure incomes and 6 pack abs and 6in plus dick. That man is literally 1 out of a 10000. They're telling a bunch of FAT low value women to have unrealistic expectations is not healthy. And they only get angrier when they can't find that man, because that man doesn't want them. The avg American femalenis 5'3" and 170lbs. That's a bmi of 30, which is obese. That's the avg. The women who frequent that sub are likely below avg. And you think telling them to wait for a 6ft, well built, rich successful guy to swing in on a branch and save them is healthy?

That sub is just an echo chamber for toxic and unrealistic female standards. And is a pillar in the reddit community to show that women can be toxic too.

KevMauHen93 · 2021-03-23T18:49:07+00:00

The problem with FDS is that the women in that subreddit over value themselves. They forget that we don’t determine our own value when it comes to dating. The sexual marketplace determines our value. FDS is creating a mentality that will keep women single. FDS also doesn’t teach women how to make themselves more marketable. They’re just telling each other how valuable each other is without associating any favorable traits with that value. You can’t sit around do absolutely nothing and think that you’re valuable just because you’re a woman. Both men and women need to study the market and adapt and incorporate the things that the market has deemed attractive/valuable. Some of those things are physical and out of our control and some of them are not physical. Just a minor attitude adjustment. Also, most women on there are just bashing men. Saw a post earlier today and the highest upvoted comment ended with this line: “All women need to remember this; Men suck in general”. That statement is no way conducive to a healthy view on dating and relationships.

Grand_Duty · 2021-03-21T14:47:11+00:00

FDS has a lot of women with an insecure attachment style that will revert back to previous actions and end up either as cat ladies, single moms, or future divorcees.

Title	Female Dating Strategy
Author	Ill-Parsley-2473
Upvotes	442
Comments	1319
Date	March 21, 2021 5:49 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/m9pobd/female_dating_strategy/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/female-dating-strategy.1190145 https://theredarchive.com/post/1190145

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