College men are increasingly shifting right, while college women are shifting left. Why do you think that is?

NockerJoe · 2022-09-13T02:37:37+00:00

The 2016 election is probably the best metaphor for the whole dynamic. Hillary Clinton relied on celebrity endorsements at a rally held maybe once a week, ignored a lot of key states and assumed they'd support her just because, cheated Bernie with superdelegates then flaunted support he was basically forced to give during the debates, and gave a general impression that she had a right to win because the establishment supported her and that was that. Donald Trump at his peak held multiple rallies per day, had a catchy answer to key questions(if not always accurate and rarely acted on), was a dark horse who beat like a dozen other candidares to get the nomination with no superdelegates, and was seen on camera personally handing out emergency supplies.

To be clear, Donald Trump is a bullshitter in the same sense most manosphere gurus are but thats because he was capable of actually addressing peoples deep seared problems and insecurities and outlining solutions to them that he was seen at least trying to push. The solutions are rarely that great but the alternatives offered usually amount to "kick rocks and hope you get thrown a bone if I feel like it".

The deal the right offers is pretty clear cut: stay in your cultural role and you'll get social and economic rewards. The deal the left offers young men is, by comparison, that they should take a lot of social and financial risks with zero guarantees simply because its the morally correct thing to do, even if you won't gain much out of it and the people who will won't aknowledge it.

Editr: the replies are accusing me of being both too left and too right in this summary, so I think I nailed it.

FrostieTheSnowman · 2022-09-13T03:07:33+00:00

As a center-leaning leftist man, I'll tell you what I've observed that might be contributing. A lot of "leftist" (and I use that term loosely) rhetoric has been all about shaming people for shit their ancestors did, or blaming everyday people for shit like "the patriarchy," which is such a nebulous fucking concept you can apply it to anything you want if you try hard enough, and the shutting-down of debate.

I can't tell you how many times I've seen people get shouted down or completely ignored just for suggesting that men are in any way oppressed, or that they have their own serious problems to wrestle with. It's always the struggle olympics with people these days, and the ironic thing is most of the people saying such shit are extremely privileged middle-class white people.

I'm a white dude who has seen more struggle than many of those folks, who grew up alongside some diverse crowds, and who himself is leftist, but god forbid I say that most men aren't rapists, or that men aren't necessarily violent. If you switch their own rhetoric and replace "men" with a race to show them the hypocrisy, they say you're racist rather than face the fact that they are, in fact, discriminating.

Sexism is real, and it's present in today's society. That doesn't mean "men" are sexist, it means there are men (and women) out there who are sexist. But people are so fucking myopic they only understand things when they're broken down to sweeping generalizations and emotionally-charged language.

Some people fall prey to the bullshit identity-politics peddled by leftists, while some people fall prey to the bullshit identity-politics peddled by righties, and they're both fucking up by doing so.

Just so happens the right treats men more like people and the left treats women more like people. Boggles my mind that more people don't see it. Everybody's people. People need to figure it the fuck out.

KBPhilosophy · 2022-09-13T02:02:24+00:00

This is entirely anecdotal, but I think it has to do with the humanities department at Universities - I myself am a liberal, and was still shocked at how extreme some of these professors are in their beliefs.

Teachers do make an effort to remove their biases when teaching courses, they are academics at the end of the day, but how they present information to the class, and what information they present to the class leads students to what feels like, a predetermined conclusion.

We know that women tend to be more interested in these things, so even if both men and women were enrolled in similar rates, I think we'd probably still see women become more left leaning as a result of how those courses are taught.

Political science and a few other humanities are actually not bad, even if slightly biased - the REAL brainwashing goes on in sociology, that pipeline is something else

-angels-fan- · 2022-09-13T03:26:08+00:00

The left is just downright terrible at getting their messages across.

"Hey, you know how men are still beholden to old social norms that are harmful? Let's call that toxic masculinity!"

Bring up any legit men's rights issue and watch how fast you'll get denigrated and called an incel and told women have it worse.

Hell, even talking about statics of men's loneliness gets labeled misogyny and an attack on women.

It's just downright crazy that men don't come running to the left!

The left is downright hostile to men. Double for white men.

JDWhiz96 · 2022-09-13T02:12:40+00:00

wtknight had it right when he mentioned power, as that's the crux of the issue. Men generally have more in a conservative society and women in a liberal one.

I think the reason men are so vehemently running toward the right though is due to being sold a lie from the left. Especially with my generation (Millennials) and Zoomers, men were often raised a certain way, were told to look at the world through a new and modern lens, but when operating in that sphere men are often discarded. When looking at the left, men feel lied to and betrayed, and when they voice this concern, they are told to shut up and get over it, that their problems are insignificant, and that others have it worse. They are preached about their "privilege" even when in trying times. At least the right doesn't lie to men: they flat out tell them life sucks, but tell them they can better their lot by hard work. When given the two choices, men, especially jaded men, will likely lean right when given the option.

redemption_soon1 · 2022-09-13T15:15:14+00:00

Speaking as a man in college, there just seems to be a cultural hostility toward men that drive them away from left-leaning politics. Any issues on gender are presented as "you are the oppressor, do the morally right x thing, and suck up any issues you have on your own".

As for issues other than gender, I think that right-leaning politics in general is more in line with the stereotypical male character, emphasizing individualism while protecting social values the men may hold dear.

dr_poopy_butthole_jr · 2022-09-13T01:21:29+00:00

The political left is becoming increasingly hostile towards men.

Upper_Combination375 · 2022-09-13T15:01:06+00:00

I mean, when you explicitly shit on straight white men, which are a significant minority in college, of course they're going to move in the opposite direction.

Newkker · 2022-09-13T02:45:26+00:00

There are 2 major factors.

As everyone has pointed out, 'the left' is very hostile towards men, especially white men.
Their choice of majors. Women are more likely to take 'softer' majors while men tend towards more technical and scientific majors as well as business.

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/chart-of-the-day-female-shares-of-ba-degrees-by-major-1971-to-2017/

I think these softer degrees tend to have faculty and programs of study that encourage leftist thought.

Muscletov · 2022-09-13T14:52:11+00:00

Because left is an anti-male ideology nowadays. Duh.

Summ1tv1ew · 2022-09-13T02:27:35+00:00

Men are tired of the misandry

CruelAngelGradThesis · 2022-09-13T01:26:14+00:00

Because weed is basically a settled issue at this point

pinktuliplover · 2022-09-13T02:27:33+00:00

As a woman college student who has actually shifted slightly right, I definitely find it interesting.

I think most college campuses encourage liberal ideas, more sexual freedom, and feminism which appeal to women.

I think some men feel comfortable with more conservative/ right leaning ideals because men have more power there. Also some modern feminists are quite anti men/masculinity which is of course a turn off for men.

Five_Decades · 2022-09-13T02:48:11+00:00

College educated men are much further to the left than high school educated men. Is this trend changing and are college educated men moving rightward?

The argument that college educated men are moving rightward doesn't seem to match other data points.

https://www.voanews.com/a/college-women-move-left-men-to-the-right/4009370.html

But last year, when the 2016 U.S. presidential election between victor Donald J. Trump and Hillary Clinton occurred, 41 percent of the female students identified as liberal or far left.

This was the largest percentage of young women identifying as liberal in the more than 50-year history of the study.

By comparison, just 29 percent of males identified as left leaning. HERI says the difference has never been bigger.

Around 27 percent of male students and about 18 percent of female students identified as right-leaning this time.

So there would have had to have been a massive shift in college male politics in the last 6 years, and I don't think that has happened, unless there are other articles to support it.

MonkeyThrowing · 2022-09-13T02:56:19+00:00

My son went to college a raving leftist. Came home for winter break a conservative. Leftest stupidity smacked him right back into reality.

warramite · 2022-09-13T01:56:56+00:00

College men are increasingly shifting right, while college women are shifting left. Why do you think that is?

The Left:

• "Kill all Men!"

• "Believe all Women!"

• "All Men are Rapists!"

• "Hold Men Accountable!"

The Right: "Boy now lemme tell you something now real quick ... If you want something in this world, well... You got no choice but to work hard for it. Keep ya head up, son."

Sheesh... I wonder why.

Ainsleygz · 2022-09-13T02:24:44+00:00

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Swapsta · 2022-09-13T06:55:19+00:00

Right left dichotomy is stupid and removes most nuance

wtknight · 2022-09-13T01:22:29+00:00

Men have more power in a more conservative society. Women have more power in a more progressive society.

daddysgotanew · 2022-09-13T12:49:01+00:00

Men are waking up to how fake the world is, how no one actually gives a shit about them (unless they’re hot and rich), how their money is being stolen from them to fund the loser class who hates them, and how there is very little ability for them to move upward in an increasingly gynocentric society. They’re pissed, they’re tired of it, and that’s a good thing. These are all realizations that push conservative thinking.

TimothyDextersGhost · 2022-09-13T04:38:22+00:00

Its obvious, the left actively promotes womens issues above mens. Men, feeling ignored and often demonized by the left for a trait they were born with associate with the side that isnt hostile. When you're told your opinion doesnt matter because you're a man or white you associate with those who listen to you. Under the law men and women have equal rights, but that isnt enough for some people

RandomRedditGuy322 · 2022-09-13T01:28:31+00:00

Colleges are notoriously hostile towards men, and privilege women.

So of course men are going to resist the hostility by leaning towards political ideologies that resist misandry, and women are going to either turn a blind eye to this discrimination, and/or attempt to help push it to perpetuate their own privilege(s) on campus.

This, of course, doesn't stop at college. We are now seeing this same phenomenon leak into woke workspaces, especially at large companies. The same logic applies.

iLiveInAHologram94 · 2022-09-13T02:55:12+00:00

Because women's needs are better represented by the left. There was a study done that women and men value political topics differently, for women healthcare is a lot higher up in priority than it is for men. So stuff like that. The left is much more thoughtful on feminist ideas than the right, which values traditionalism. If you think about it too, the left values progression, which women would clearly like and continue to like, and better represents women's interests. The right has no interest in progressing women's rights if anything they'd like less.

decoy88 · 2022-09-13T03:13:18+00:00

The way the US calls their Democrats “the left” is hilarious.

I think Men try leaning harder into our gender roles at times when it’s hardest to achieve them.

dbz19_kai · 2022-09-13T11:14:28+00:00

Economically, society as a whole is moving left. People are sick of the banker elite raping the middle class and debt slavery. Trumps election in 2016 was proof that the mainstream right is no longer dominated by laissez faire simps for bankers and lenders. Yes he’s part of the billionaire elite, but he appealed to the middle class by promises of protectionism and economic intervention which is a far cry from what the right usually stood for economically.

In terms of social politics, the mainstream was never as “left” as the nexus would have you think. Majority of normies are silently not on board with transgenderism for example.

abagus101 · 2022-09-13T12:37:37+00:00

Because men are increasingly seeing that the current social order isn't sustainable or desirable, far too few people are starting families and having children. While on the other hand women are drifting further left because "fuck you I've got mine"

edgyny · 2022-09-13T14:32:18+00:00

It's because the "left" doesn't actually give a shit about men and in fact is actively hostile toward men. Contrary to popular opinion, guys who go to college aren't stupid and pick up on this.

keepin2002 · 2022-09-13T01:59:23+00:00

Most Men don’t even attend college

throwaway316stunner · 2022-09-13T12:57:18+00:00

Am I shifting to the right? I don’t know about that. All I know is that as someone who actually paid their loans off at 25, I hate the idea of student loan forgiveness. Or at the very least, if you’re going to forgive student loans, you should also compensate for the ones who paid their loans off in full.

alphasupremacy5555 · 2022-09-13T03:07:58+00:00

The reason why is because leftism has an intense hatred for traditional masculinity. The political right doesn't demonize vilify and attack men for being more masculine than average like the political left does. If you're not in touch with your feminine side which is bullshit because masculine men have absolutely no femininity then you become the victim of man hate. That's what progressive and liberal media does to men for simply being a man. In dating college life, leftist women relish ghosting, rejecting, cheating on and wasting men's time. Less and less men are likely to enroll in college because they don't want to end up in student debt. A Master's degree doesn't guarantee a six and a half figure job. You have to struggle, rack ur brains, fail, struggle some more fail repeatedly and study for years before you finally complete college only to be broke struggling to pay student loans.

FlyV89 · 2022-09-13T09:20:20+00:00

The ones in charge never see the tide rising up. Power blinds them. They are too high in the social ladder to see what happens down there. Too bussy counting money.

"If we rob the workers of their crops, and raise their taxes until they get into debt, and then expropriate their lands and send them to the battlefield with whipping and mistreatment, perhaps those men will get angry and start to build guillotines..."

A french bourgeois, never -

Freevoulous · 2022-09-13T10:23:58+00:00

In general its about MONEY. In a Leftist society, men are milked for their hard earned money worse than in a Rightist society. So of course men support (often begrudingly) the ideology that does not want to redistribute their wallet.

Things will change once women take over 50% of the jobs and start being bled financially by leftist policies (ie: needs of other women). Things will sharply change.

PadThai42 · 2022-09-13T13:35:26+00:00

Men are constantly bashed in popular culture and it is accepted. Women are more drawn to the left because it supports women more and wants to redefine patriarchal norms.

Sad_Entertainer6312 · 2022-09-13T17:59:43+00:00

Now this is a post that should be pinned instead of that silly workout post.

Devourer_of_felines · 2022-09-13T18:51:34+00:00

"the left" sees men as an oppressor class and see nothing wrong with broadly labelling them as trash or rapists for things they didn't do.

Pretty abundantly clear why in the face of that men would skew in the opposite direction.

It also says men are less likely to enroll in college than women

I'm guessing that's mostly because women are the overwhelming reason humanities departments are getting so bloated.

anjovis150 · 2022-09-13T05:14:07+00:00

The left gives young men absolutely nothing expect a back seat.

Playful_Art_5364 · 2022-09-13T01:42:52+00:00

Men go towards STEM fields.

Many companies hiring developers or engineers have started to say “fuck this degree thing”

Now men aren’t getting degrees because they don’t need them for the roles they want.

razorfloss · 2022-09-13T06:52:31+00:00

Simple the left is demonizing anything that has a hint of masculinity as toxic and bashing people over the head with feminist propaganda. The right is at least not making men out to be monsters for the crime of being born men. Vote for the party that thinks you're a monster for being born or vote for the party that isn't demonizing you. Pretty easy choice. Not helping matters is that the vocal minority of the left has pretty fucking extreme beliefs that turn people off.

Coolio_Street_Racer · 2022-09-13T12:21:18+00:00

The attitude shifted in the feminism movement from men and women should be equal to KAM. Completely to the fault of women for normalizing misandry.

mmm_try_again12345 · 2022-09-13T01:34:16+00:00

Colleges are overwhelmingly left, and women generally are not very rebellious, and go with whatever the perceived authority says. Men are much more rebellious and contrarian

stoic4343 · 2022-09-13T02:06:46+00:00

The left is stupid. Makes no sense. Virtue signaling and appeals to emotion. Any rational person sees is stupid.

M_LaSalle · 2022-09-13T08:51:07+00:00

The question is always who and whom. College women benefit from the system the Left has created in Universities, or think they do. Also, they are not inclined to question what is, because of peer pressure. Women are herd animals.

Men on the other hand, are not beneficiaries of the system. They are told endlessly that they are evil, they see the kangaroo courts established for bogus claims of sexual assault. And increasingly they are excluded from sex.

Thus, who/whom.

It is simple, yet beyond the ability of most to grasp. Campuses are in the hands of revolutionaries who understand. "The worse the better"

EDIT: Young men are moving to the Right in part because they see the hatred that the college regime has for them, and they sense the future the Left has planned for them. Although few of them yet grasp it, they await the coming of the One. America will eventually have a Right wing mass movement for young men that will speak to their grievances, give them pride and pack, and lead them to action. They will learn that alone they are weak, but together they are mighty. And as young men are the most proficient users of force, it will give them hope that they can take what they want.

When that day comes, America will change. Not necessarily for the better.

Financial_Leave4411 · 2022-09-13T03:03:41+00:00

I don’t think it’s so much that the college experience itself is making men shift right but mens frustration for what college does for women that is.

Over all I think women have finally started to develop the skills to grow enough mentally to not just survive but thrive on their own and this stresses the men who seem to fear being alone or never having offspring. Men want what their fathers and especially grandfathers had and women want to avoid the fate most of their mothers and grandmothers suffered through.

Combine this with men’s higher sex drive/ testosterone levels and men are struggling more with anger and depression as a result. So men seek answers to their problems and find that the news/ political parties, company’s like OLD and entrepreneurs on YouTube are offering them their dream results if they vote a specific way, spend money on their product or buy their books/ seminars.

This is leading to not so much a shift in politics but a divide in moral values that are pushing the sexes apart. Men are trying to force women back into their old roles and women are trying to escape them which leads us back to women raising their mental skills by both gaining the knowledge to get a career as well as the practice of living alone both of which start happening around college.

AstronautLoveShack · 2022-09-13T01:35:21+00:00

Men are more conservative because they fear losing their historically granted power. Women are more liberal because they are just discovering their historically denied power:

poppy_blu · 2022-09-13T02:51:56+00:00

The republicans, historically the party of the wealthy, needs uneducated men to keep doing the grueling shit jobs that fuel the capitalist machine and pay for their shareholders jets. No better way to get them to reject higher education — and everything that an advanced education teaches them about how badly they’re being fucked over by the 1% — than to feed them propaganda about how colleges are hostile to white men and that’s why guys like them are dropping out or forgoing college altogether (when in reality college enrollment is like 52/48 f/m.)

That said, colleges are just throwing fuel on that fire with all of their safe space, microaggressions, woke indulging bullshit.

Legaladesgensheu · 2022-09-13T06:29:59+00:00

I can only speak from personal experience as someone who migrated from the radical left towards libertarianism (I still hold egalitarian values).

For me it had everything to do with personal experiences within the left. In my experience many people on the left are very envious and lazy people that would probably make the world worse if they themselves were in power. Also a lot of them have psychological struggles that they project unto society (or blame society for).

When it comes to the topic of gender I also noticed many double standards: Women claiming they value feminist values in men, yet dating the most toxic men. Men denouncing toxic masculinity, yet being toxic themselves (and getting rewarded for it). Women demanding that more women should get STEM degrees, yet enrolling in humanities themselves. Men proclaiming "fat is beautiful", yet only dating skinny white girls. And I could name so many more things..

So yeah, I just made bad experiences with leftism. It seems like a web of lies to me.

risdeveau · 2022-09-13T02:05:31+00:00

Sex (lack of) and equality

Agent_441 · 2022-09-13T09:13:07+00:00

Simple males:givers Females: takers Males:don’t like big daddy aka big government Females: natural inclination for wanting something to take care of them. Males: power by many avenues Females: requires stronger entities to do their bidding Everything is based off biology.

Illustrious_Wish_383 · 2022-09-13T03:15:12+00:00

So many people don't know the difference between leftist and neoliberal.

Diddy_1978 · 2022-09-13T07:03:04+00:00

Because when people get a culture, they understand that the right oppresses and exploits women, minorities and the poor, while only helping the oppression and exploitation by rich white men.

Ok_Swim_2691 · 2022-09-13T12:03:34+00:00

The right panders to men, while the left panders to women and minorities, what's there to get?

MUNZATHEGOD · 2022-09-13T13:00:41+00:00

Men have always been more right wing than women. And in my experience most women are apolitical. That’s changing but usually back in the day they just voted for whoever their family told them to

Kylepoma8587 · 2022-09-13T21:01:29+00:00

Women are more egalitarian and feelings driven so they are overwhelmingly on the left, and women tend to move and think as a collective, so they get assimilated into the borg. Men tend to be more utilitarian and logic based so they tend to lean right, and they tend to move and think independently and go against narratives, so they become giga chads

IOportA · 2022-09-13T21:03:34+00:00

Men have evolved to care about the tribe and fight for it, because if they don't, they will be supplanted (killed) by another tribe.

Women have evolved to care about themselves, because they will simply be absorbed when their own tribe is supplanted.

That's why men are far more xenophobic and conservative.

Individual_Sky_2540 · 2022-09-13T02:29:05+00:00

Men are going to the right because they're mad that they no longer have power over women like their fathers/grandfathers did. And the right-wing entices these men with fantasies of going back to the times like their father's/grandfather's.

The times are changing and men are having a difficult time adapting and so they fall into the crowd that aligns the most with them: Republicans.

szclimber · 2022-09-13T04:01:52+00:00

Both the extreme right and left are ignorant and dangerous. The young don't realize this yet. In America the right is a danger to democracy itself. The left is obsessed with culture wars and demonizing men.

JumboJetz · 2022-09-13T01:43:18+00:00

Many men are outsourcing their thinking to Joe Rogan unfortunately. And the alt right has become very good at targeting men I feel.

Men perceive “woke” culture has gone too far and feel very restricted as a result of these alt right media commentators.

It’s an interesting phenomenon it kindof does feel like some kindof major societal upheaval is coming I don’t know what it will be though.

jackedsoon · 2022-09-13T02:30:15+00:00

yeah most of us dgaf bout politics or slight right. not gonna let a bitch this obviously. around women im far left

guys usually dont care since politics dont affect them like women(espc poc women)

PosteriorPelvicTiIt · 2022-09-13T02:57:32+00:00

Conservatives: Women belong in the kitchen

Liberals: Whoever is in the kitchen is the woman

Both parties are retarded

Apprehensive_Cut_146 · 2022-09-13T09:59:26+00:00

Each individual leans towards the direction that benefits them directly. How is it surprising men shift towards a direction that would allow them to have power over women and not feel guilty about it?

memes-not-dreams · 2022-09-13T06:39:55+00:00

You people have fucked world views. The only men moving far right are poor people and mostly poor white men. Because you aren’t going to college, aren’t making money and aren’t getting women because ~suprise~ no women want to fuck men that amare of lesser stock. Sorry. It’s the reality. Why would she fuck you, someone who moves boxes in a warehouse when she can date someone who went to college, made a career. And yes, complain about how colleges are liberal factories etc.

But then it’s a self fulfilling cycle. You don’t get degrees, you are less educated, you make less money, girls don’t want you. I’m not here to argue about what’s right or wrong, I’m laying out the facts. This is coming from someone who went to college, who has had many gf / hookups. And surprise surprise women don’t want their bodily autonomy violated by conservatives. I mean all the pieces to the puzzle are there.

smarmycheesesandwich · 2022-09-13T13:54:26+00:00

The hyperangry dudes bemoaning wokeness are usually the socially stunted outliers who spend far too much time on the internet. They worship a world of old that would’ve likely chewed them up and spit them out.

The 90’s were conservative: Democrats ran on stronger jail sentences and restricting immigration, for example. Some Democrats even openly used homophobic rhetoric.

In that decade, convening in chat rooms about how you can’t get laid would make you even more of a loser than you are now.

Maelas84 · 2022-09-13T07:54:44+00:00

Social media. Thats it.

ErrareApusEst · 2022-09-13T09:05:56+00:00

They gravitate towards the camp that best protects their interests, whether true and reasonable or not

imitatingnormal · 2022-09-13T18:20:49+00:00

Men are encouraged to STEM careers (humanities are often missing in the curriculum), so they are sometimes relatively uneducated on the history of civil/human rights.

mylifeisadankmeme · 2022-09-13T19:33:43+00:00

I don't know but I do know that I'm exhausted with the media pitting demographics against each other and presenting them all as monoliths.

It's called Divide And Conquer, and most people appear to be falling heavily for it.

We all need to be looking upwards at what the actual bad guys are doing to us.

Every penny not going into 'our' ( I mean the average person in any and every population) pockets is more consolidated, generational wealth doing bad somewhere.

'They' have always hoarded the resources, that's essentially the reason why politics and government were invented and invented the way that they were.

The land-owning classes, the aristocracy, the royals, the billionaires.

All men, all women, all white people, all non white people, all gay,straight trans people...

Any group, community, demographic is going to have the good, the bad, and the batshit crazy.

We're all just people..same species..

Barneysparky · 2022-09-13T01:52:32+00:00

Because people think of other things besides sex.

Rich people and people who believe they will be rich soon vote to keep the rich, rich.

Because Engineering and Tech programs still lean male, and young men with autism overwhelmingly vote right.

Because young women think more of contributing to the common good, so they take up the majority of the nurturing professions.

Because guys in the Humanities are dating with no problem.

SmilesLikeMardiGras · 2022-09-13T02:13:11+00:00

the right is patristic values and the left is matristic values

pialovesu · 2022-09-13T08:57:30+00:00

Being conservative benefits men. Being progressive benefits women and men.

MClabsbot2 · 2022-09-13T15:20:07+00:00

Left/feminists talk a lot of shit about men and only really focus on womens issues, Right/redpill talk a lot of shit about women and only really focus on men's issues. Each gender moves to the side that benefits them

Matriarcat_Mondial22 · 2022-09-13T03:30:30+00:00

So males is getting more stupid while women are getting more smart. It doesn't seem, like, too crazy to me. I think I'm being sarcastic.

Academic_Snow_7680 · 2022-09-13T09:31:49+00:00

Because they are going in for fields where their conservative views would be enforced like economics or programming where they earn a lot and don't want to share it with the government.

Libertarians are typically people that have been blessed with a high socioeconomic stature as well as the ability to earn a lot (fit, good looking, smart... gifted in all areas but the prefrontal cortex)

nemma88 · 2022-09-13T10:57:02+00:00

In America specifically (because its not the same in Europe) the right is steeped in conservatism and traditionalism, and particularly belief (religion) over the pursuit of knowledge, is skeptical, often hostile to science.

This doesn't mesh well with higher education, there will be some natural filtering because of that. Even lower education in the US republican states is more restrictive in teaching because...

Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved.

40% of Americans Believe in Creationism

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Kokoro0000 · 2022-09-13T05:54:00+00:00

Their majors

darkvalleys · 2022-09-13T07:32:08+00:00

Conservatism favors men. Liberalism favors women. Colleges lean liberal. Is this really news to anyone?

gavtron96 · 2022-09-13T08:41:00+00:00

I think this is more an American issue really. I often wonder if there is some link to early settlers in America a good degree of which were religious fundamentalists who left their European countries of origin. They brought with them often archaic views about women, even for that time and a deep feeling of paranoia and defensiveness. I think these same issues still have a stranglehold on American culture to this day.

I'm British and a shared language and the influence of American pop culture often makes one assume the US is similar to a Western European country but in reality its a very different beast and often not in a good way.

Holiday-Reach-8948 · 2022-09-13T12:01:32+00:00

The thing I don’t like about this survey is they surveyed 1500 students… at the end of summer break. I’d like to see a survey of 5k students at the beginning of a fall term.

I work at one of the top 25 institutions. What I know is women are, and have been, graduating at much higher rates than men. We have committees, work groups, and positions 100% dedicated to male student success in an effort to close the gender gap. And I’ll have to double check, but I believe we’ve increasingly seen more women applications than men in the past. I say “in the past” because it’s not as accurate now - a number of people do not indicate their gender and I believe there is talk of either removing it OR allowing one to enter the gender they identify as… it’s going to be more difficult to measure is what I mean.

As for the number of registered student voters, we have student ran political clubs (on both the left and the right) who have voter applications and will park out in front of places like the Library and Student Services building each semester and encourage students to register to vote. If a student is not registered, they will ask if they can help them fill out an application.

I think the change students seek - is to undo this hate and division sewn so deeply into our country. They want to see our leaders work together for the good of our country and actually implement change instead of bickering over BS and spinning wheels.

phoenix_shm · 2022-09-13T12:35:16+00:00

Why? For men going more to the right (in the US) I think it's relatively simple: 1) Insufficient examples left-leaning men with attractive lifestyles and 2) a constant critiquing of everyone on the left by everyone on the left (and right) making for something of a unattractive "crabs and a bucket" scene. Bottom line, what Bill Clinton said 20+yrs ago still holds - most people choose to support someone who appears strong but wrong than someone who is weak but right. Perception really hits the reptilian part of our brain pretty effectively.

MassageGymnist · 2022-09-13T13:16:56+00:00

If only i know what right and left meant i can enjoy this thread

Liberated_Asexual · 2022-09-13T14:27:15+00:00

People will act in their own perceived self-interest.

herefortheparty01 · 2022-09-13T14:42:53+00:00

Cuz men need survive on their own

catniagara · 2022-09-13T15:19:36+00:00

The article you posted is an opinion piece whose only basis in fact is the obvious link between far-right politics and over-representation of angry, violent, and entitled men in those groups.

I’m more confused when women DO vote against themselves, than when they don’t.

TATA456alawaife · 2022-09-13T16:10:39+00:00

The civil rights act mostly.

No-Challenge7197 · 2022-09-13T18:38:11+00:00

I'm a centrist but am very much not a fan of joyless, sanctimonious, over-emotional assholes.

One side just has a lot more of those.

ahhh_ty · 2022-09-13T18:42:30+00:00

In my opinion it’s because women have forgotten who is really in charge and men are begin to see that and take back our power with force. Not saying it’s right or moral or just - that’s just what I’m observing.

PassMyGuard · 2022-09-13T18:59:43+00:00

I was right in high school and shifted left after college. Turns out that peer reviewed scientific data is pretty compelling to someone who isn’t married to their opinions

Smithersink · 2022-09-13T19:51:08+00:00

I think women tend to be left-wing in general and men tend to be right-wing in general for a few reasons: 1. Women tend to be more emotional and compassionate than men. 2. Men tend to make more money. 3. Feminism is traditionally on the left, which polarizes the genders.

I think college accelerates this for a few reasons: 1. As people become more educated, they better understand what their own interests are. 2. Since colleges tend to be extremely left, women are radicalized by college while men tend to feel attacked and become reactionary. 3. Men who don’t go to college tend to make less money, and thus left-wing politics are more in their interest.

supershotmd · 2022-09-13T20:49:43+00:00

People just pick what benefits them. Wokeness benefits women more than men. The only time they deviate is on the transgender issue when women actually lose out by wokeness policies (college sports). But for the most part they will go with the ideology that says they deserve the same pay as male pro athletes despite vastly lower revenues and the same representation as male corporate leaders despite vastly lower rates of participation in the pipeline. Why the heck not?

Case in point: I'm an asian man. If there was an ideology that said "Hey, asian men are treated unfairly by affirmative action and lower representation in upper-leadership. Let's make quotas for asian men and shame people into promoting you." Yes, I would back that political party. I'm just being honest.

Schickie · 2022-09-13T21:29:26+00:00

It's fairly simple. It's called hegemonic masculinity. Easier for men to buy into, less so for women. Here's a fascinating article that outlines its impact on the electorate.https://www.inverse.com/mind-body/psychology-of-donald-trump-rise-to-power

jayval90 · 2022-09-13T22:16:16+00:00

Have you seen the recent poll numbers for Feminism that split between age and gender and political affiliation? Everything looked mostly normal (conservatives hated it, liberals loved it, older people liked it more than younger people) except for male liberals. They disliked feminism about 3/4 as much as male conservatives did.

I think the simple answer here is Feminism is destroying the left among men.

Fine-Training-8196 · 2022-09-13T22:19:52+00:00

That guy is way better looking than me in the thumbnail

Minute_Prior2801 · 2022-09-13T22:45:10+00:00

Oh boy. Sort of funny for me because this pill shit is the only thing I swing more conservative (TRP) on. Probably because of personal experience, but honestly a lot of redpill and even some blackpill stuff about women is true to me (AF/BB, men must become, women just are, promiscuity being bad for commitment and more). Outside of that, I'm more progressive (well, by America's standards) on most other issues, although I dislike the virtue signaling and identity politics many "activists" try to push, and I do think black people hog up too much of the racial injustice conversation, although that isn't really conservative thought. I actually became this way more in the past few years thanks to the pandemic.

Most of what the right pushes in this country, to me, is fucking stupid: meritocracy, anti-establishment just to be anti-establishment (tbf the "left" is anti-establishment, but more because the establishment sucks at doing their job of serving the people), of course until it's someone they don't like, simping for the rich, accusing the rainbow community (too many letters at this point) of "grooming" our children, their wacky ass obsession with pedophiles, their paranoid belief of a "white man bad" culture (us white guys are still doing pretty good as far as I'm concerned), the excessive patriotism that almost no other countries in the developed world show, and many other things. Basically this quote sums it up: "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith

But back to the OP: this does not surprise me. Being away from parents and now somewhat on your own as an adult probably enables this both ways. Young men get even more frustrated by the expectations from women and society placed on them, while women truly start to see their advantages in the gyno centric society we have.

SwaySh0t · 2022-09-13T23:38:33+00:00

“you ain’t black if you don’t vote for me” lmao like what? This is far as we go down this road sleepy joe, he’ll never get a vote from me.

AppliedAutism · 2022-09-14T07:51:51+00:00

A white man who votes for libs is either a cuck or gay.

Antonija_Blagorodna · 2022-09-14T10:04:33+00:00

Most Liberals/Leftists/Democrats are Feminists. What do Feminists say about men?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_J0Ng5cUGg&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQglZPVmoo8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SXqfEziTL4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-iNSGrBp0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UheC38wpRYg

Yeah, no self respecting man is going to want to be a part of this.

Title	College men are increasingly shifting right, while college women are shifting left. Why do you think that is?
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Date	September 13, 2022 1:19 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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